$650 Vs $11,000 Mountain Bikes!

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What’s it like to ride an $11,000 mountain bike?!
Every expensive part and exciting piece of new technology you could wish for is specced on the Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper T-Type. It’s a dream bike for many, but how much better is it than a regular MTB?
In this video, we’ll show you the difference between an $11,000 bike and a carbon Cannondale that costs $5,500, a great-value $1,699 full-suspension Marin 29er and a bargain $650 Calibre hardtail.
Which bike is your favourite? Let us know in the comments 👇
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:34 Calibre Rake 27
03:48 Marin Rift Zone 29 1
07:05 Cannondale Habit LT1
10:50 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper T-Type
14:26 Conclusion
16:17 Outro
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@bikeradar 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comments on the pricing, we're listening and will take them on board 🤘 Pricing in GBP is as follows: Calibre Rake 27 (UK Only): £550 with £5 Go Outdoors membership or £650 without Marin Rift Zone 29" 1 (UK & US): £1645 Cannondale Habit LT1 (UK & US): £4750 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper T-Type (UK & US): £10,000

@tonyb9735 Ай бұрын

In future, please give weight in kilos too. Here in a modern country, I have no idea what 28 pounds is.

@frozenshadowzz2422 Ай бұрын

Google exists@@tonyb9735

@user-kk9ez9hg4z 4 ай бұрын

If I had $11,000 to spend on MTB. I would buy $2000 bike and whole bunch of plane tickets to epic locations for riding trips.

@fiece4767 3 ай бұрын

Well, you cant put a price on an expirience. 🤷‍♂

@user-kk9ez9hg4z 3 ай бұрын

@@fiece4767 exactly, imagine how much fun you can have with $9,000 budget for riding trips

@robcameron9351 3 ай бұрын

This is the way

@junli6065 3 ай бұрын

⁠why not spend $7000 on the plane tickets, $3000 on hotels and rent a full suspension MTB at the resorts?

@user-kk9ez9hg4z 3 ай бұрын

@@junli6065 You need a bike after you're done with your trips to ride your local trails

@Bascott03 4 ай бұрын

$1600 straight to $5000 is a big jump. A lot of quality bikes that likely fit the most riders lost along the way.

@bikeradar 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! We're always looking for new and exciting videos we can make for the channel... ~ Will

@edwardcook23 3 ай бұрын

I think it would be cool to compare one of the cheaper habits like the habit 4 vs the habit LT1.

@Trooperx86 3 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I think like $2500 range would have been better for the second bike and the hard tail be more like $800-$1000.

@Looking_4_downhill1 2 ай бұрын

This seems like the hard tail was just thrown in there As a starting point. the second is a budget bike entry level. The third is what happens if you splurge and the fourth looks like you're balling out.

@Maggie_n_Mitch23 2 ай бұрын

Lost Along The Way CC , , , , , 😂😂😂

@davehause8571 4 ай бұрын

Wish you had done the reverse, cheap full squish bike and top of line hardtail.

@bikeradar 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know Dave! Perhaps you’ve given us an idea for a future video! ~ Will

@stevenbassman3305 4 ай бұрын

@@bikeradarthis is a great idea. id love to see a video like that. great job on this one!

@marksandoval5361 4 ай бұрын

There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to the bike price spectrum. It is probably around ~$3500 US full retail at a bike shop.. Most of us would do fine with an aluminum full-sus, Deore 1x12 drivetrain, and Marzocchi fork. That would be my bare minimum. To me that's where you get diminishing returns. Spending more doesn't provide much improvement on performance. If a beginner asked me what should I buy, that's what I would recommend.

@ryanmichels2981 4 ай бұрын

100%. My budget build would be FS, aluminum frame, deore brakes, deore drivetrain (but with XT shifter), Fox rhythm or similar grade suspension. All that 90% of people actually need and can appreciate.

@minime4215 4 ай бұрын

@@ryanmichels2981have this setup but full XT since 2017 on my cube … front, Alu, 1x11 and Brakes are full XT with Fox Rhythm 34 and Alu rims no name with XT Hubs … for me more than enough … biggest difference make tires … still swapping forth and back over all the known brands 🫣

@a8f235 4 ай бұрын

And new proper tires because most bikes come delivered with only ok-ish tires that you quickly reach the limits of. Just sell the brand new stock tires to get a few bucks back. Tires alone can make a big improvement on any bike, and is a good investment for your confidence as well.

@yukiko_5051 4 ай бұрын

12 speed is too expensive. Try 10 speed deore aluminum hardtail with coil fork

@kmsbailey405 4 ай бұрын

Sram GX all the way deore sucks! Shimano makes good brakes though but drivetrain goes to Sram all day

@Rekmeyata 4 ай бұрын

I'm 70 years old, what I'm about to say will blow your mind. I used to live in S California, and back in the late 60's and 70's we used to ride trails like what you were on, and worse, in the mountains on ROAD BIKES! We took bikes that had cantilever brakes, and put on the wider rims with 700x35c tires, and some others used the old 27x1 3/8 inch tires.

@prawnis 4 ай бұрын

you didnt ride trails like this.

@Rekmeyata 4 ай бұрын

@@prawnis Gary, you're young, you don't know what we did back in the day. Even the early Tour de France riders rode mostly on dirt, mud, gravel, etc, very difficult terrain on nothing but road bikes, the TDF prior to WW2 was basically cyclocross riding. It wasn't until after WW2 did roads got paved and the TDF was then on paved roads. So all we did was follow that lead and we rode our road bikes on trails. Of course, we weren't getting air time, and sometimes we had to get off and walk the bike, but for the most part, we were riding trails. Gary Fisher, Joe Breeze, and Tom Ritchey, all began riding on mountain trails using road bikes, those guys had their own teams, and I was part of one of those teams based out of Marin County California for a short time, about 2 or 3 months, and I won't divulge who's team I was on. From that experience, they decided to build the first hardtail rigid fork mountain bikes. Joe Breeze was the first maker of a mountain bike called Breezer 1 in 1977, but it took until 1981 for the first bike manufacturer to mass produce a mountain bike, that was Specialized with their Stumpjumper, but it was a hardtail rigid fork bike, but it was a good bike, and people raced those types of bikes, suspension forks didn't come around until sometime in the mid-90s. Then eventually what I used to do came around full circle because now we're back doing cyclocross riding. So you need to do some research before telling someone they didn't do something because you never know who you might be talking to. I left the cyclocross stuff to do road racing instead, and I did that from 1973 until 1983, I won't go into details about what level I was at, it's time to let it lay.

@prawnis 4 ай бұрын

@@Rekmeyata Cap

@keinpietz7697 3 ай бұрын

@@prawnis manlike garrrrrrry should take an L.

@Rzagski 2 ай бұрын

Yeah man started riding MTB’s in 1990 I’m 60. Those rides were rough. New tech makes it fun and faster climbing.

@bosross6992 2 ай бұрын

Here in the Philippines a $650 mountainbike is already considered a high end bike

@teo7196 2 ай бұрын

yeah even in france man ...

@neuzethmusic131 2 ай бұрын

And here in Austria decent MTBs start at 1500 Euros

@erencavdar Ай бұрын

In Turkey its just price for solid mid level decathlon bike. Our taxes are incomparable💪💪

@eguy83 Ай бұрын

For sure, couple years back i bought my Orbea Mx everyone look as if it was a 5k bike but it was just a 700 hundred usd bike 😂

@WiscoViking 21 күн бұрын

650 bike will suit 90% of riders none of us are gonna push the more expensive bikes to their limit

@coonepaul 4 ай бұрын

In whos world is that a double black diamond trail? And if this is MBUK why are you talking in dollars???

@TripleRRRs4eva 3 ай бұрын

Because America fuckin rules dollars up pounds down

@Titot182 2 ай бұрын

Us FOD locals have said the same thing. However, Forestry have got big plans with the FoD cycle centre and have graded the trail based on the features they're looking to put in. Compared to BPW, none of the trails are even what you'd consider Black, save for GBU. My 9 year old daughter can get down sheepskull and ski run, the latter being a double black (but plans are afoot to put in features that would warrant it)

@Zumifey 2 ай бұрын

@@TripleRRRs4eva😂

@h.nry007 21 күн бұрын

@@TripleRRRs4eva well not quite the pound is stronger so for us americas quite cheap

@IIISentorIII 2 ай бұрын

That "$11,000" S-Works Stumpjumper Costs $7'500 right now here in Switzerland 😉 Last Year I did Buy the Carbon Stumpjumper Comp for $3'000! on Sale and put on some Carbon Elite Wheels pro 36 for another $600. It's now 28.2 lbs (12,8Kg)after making some other small changes during the year, the frame is 100% identical to the S-Works and a Dream Bike! Cheers from Switzerland

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Oh wow! Sounds like you got a bargain there and are already on the upgrades! Happy riding. ~ Will

@justsayin3600 Ай бұрын

I bought my 2023 Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Pro S3 for 6,300.00 U.S. It's definitely best to wait for sales!

@parkerhope4557 3 ай бұрын

Great video man and lots of attention to detail. One issue I had is it would have been nice to see a time comparison for all four bikes. Other than that awesome video.

@neuzethmusic131 2 ай бұрын

Very happy with my 1000 Euro Cube 29 Hardtail. Even some casual single trail/downhill is possible.

@bennychenMTB 4 ай бұрын

Can’t be a black run let alone double black! But good opportunity to test these back out on your local trial. I will be keen to try them out in my black runs. Good work

@ctsingletrack 4 ай бұрын

I think I would spend just slighty more to get the Riftzone 2, with a dropper, and better spec all around. It will still cost less than half the price of the Habit, and the frame geo and kinematics are very good on that bike.

@victorrosario4109 Ай бұрын

Good video! It really shows you and teaches us just one simple lesson. It is not the Bike It is the Rider. Of course having a nice bike is always a pleasure. Cool video.

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Well said! And thanks very much for the positive comments! ~ Will

@bikeradar 4 ай бұрын

Which bike is your favourite?

@parkinkevin 4 ай бұрын

the rift zone, not doing the drop was bull s**t!

@MrChristiangraham 4 ай бұрын

The calibre. Add a dropper post and upgrade the tyres when they wear out FTW.

@72Cowboy72 4 ай бұрын

Cannondale Carbon Habit LT, I have it, upgrade to XO transmission and AXS Reverb dropper.

@derekanderson5607 4 ай бұрын

I like the one I can buy in GBP. Who else uses Dollars in the UK? And which countries Dollars were you quoting in the video? Just another sucking up to the money men video. Shame.

@matthewbrocke4298 4 ай бұрын

I just bought a Kona Process 134 for $1999 plus tax (cdn). It has Shimano Deore parts, Rockshox Recon up front and a Rockshox Deluxe in back and a dropper post. I can't wait to ride it. I'm still keeping my hardtail.

@bikeradar 4 ай бұрын

Very nice! That sounds like an absolute bargain, enjoy! ~ Will

@johndef5075 3 ай бұрын

Great deal! Should be a fun bike. Deore is bulletproof. Ive been riding mtb 34 years and my main bike has Deore drivetrain and brakes. I did just build up an Sworks epic frame with full XT though. Just havent got to ride it yet😅

@besomewheredosomething 3 ай бұрын

@@johndef5075 Nice! I'm finishing an '17 S-Works Camber 650b build. While it's an "older" frame it was new in the box with the rear shock. Will get to ride it tomorrow. Full Fox Factory "Gold" coating setup (including the dropper post) ;)

@benw4401 3 ай бұрын

You’ll never want to ride hardtail again.

@Anythingyoulike2013 26 күн бұрын

Built a 7.9kg bike with pedals for under £800. R8000 drivetrain, r8000 rear derailleur, dura ace front derailleur. Xtr shifters.

@jasonwooden 3 ай бұрын

The hardtail with 27.5s appeared to have way too much air pressure in the tyres. The whole point of 27.5s on a hard tail is to drop the pressure some and use the tyre for your suspension.

@TivonSanders 4 ай бұрын

You guys should've got the Giordano Intrepid for the budget bike. That bike looks amazing.

@HOV4N 3 ай бұрын

Great video to compare different price points! I’d like to keep it in the mid level price and upgrade parts based on personal preferences and style. 🚲🚲

@bikeradar 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Happy riding 🙌 ~ Will

@jacobtorbert2241 25 күн бұрын

This is a really great breakdown. If you’re a new rider, I recommend you start on a ht. Spend a little more money if it’s in your budget. Hardtails are a blast and imo gives you a different connection to the trails.

@TonInter 4 ай бұрын

Great video! I'd go for the cheapest one. There's a certain charm about it and also makes you work a tad harder, which isn't a bad thing in my book.

@bikeradar 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! It was a really entertaining ride. And great value!

@EMTBAFV 2 ай бұрын

I think your just used to big ass 29ers now as just got a full sus embt with 27.5 wheels and there huge! When you come from old kona stinkys and Giant Atxs the 27.5 wheels are massive, to be honest I'm glad I didn't go for the 29in wheel version think it would be way to much bike and to top heavy. It's my first year back to mtb but went straight for the full sus! My days are well gone when I'd have another hardtail

@ringmaster_wow7165 2 ай бұрын

I like that the sounds of the bike and the road are clearly audible.

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! We aim to please! ~ Will

@masaharumorimoto4761 4 ай бұрын

Give me the budget hardtail all day every day! Budget bikes benefit from all the research into frame geometry and overall advancements while not having to pay for that research and development. I can also chain it up for 5 min while I get snacks at the store and not worry about someone with a grinder stealing it.

@Jacob99174 4 ай бұрын

Thursday, at 3am?

@eliahdude1411 2 ай бұрын

my english teacher had a cannondale habit, and i was allowed to bike on one trail with one time, and let me tell you, it was awesome.

@IIISentorIII 2 ай бұрын

Was it consensual?

@eliahdude1411 2 ай бұрын

@@IIISentorIII ofc

@Descenter1976 2 ай бұрын

Started riding MTB about 4 years ago on a Trek Roscoe 8 (about 1.500$ in my country), yesterday I upgraded to a Trek Slash 9.8 GX ATX Gen 5 (about 8.000$ in my country)

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Both great bikes and pleased to hear you're still enjoying MTB! ~ Will

@Ben.kg1 3 ай бұрын

i love the mustache pal ;)

@MW-ud8zp 4 ай бұрын

not dropping the saddle is a cardinal sin

@manitolas 4 ай бұрын

depends,on smooth surface we xc-ers use it for stability,but it works better on ht

@tomaskoky5244 Ай бұрын

Now in the Czech Republic, the Habit LT is £3414. I have an older Habit 2020 that I love. I've done some upgrades on it. If you've never ridden a bike like this, you don't know what you're talking about. If you sell your old bike (if it's for sale), a new LT can run you $2220. That's what I do 😉

@Omenxiiii 2 ай бұрын

I haven’t ridden my bike in about a year. Just watching you climb makes me feel the burn in my lungs lol

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Haha, it was great fun trying to tackle it again and again. I think I prefer the descending though 😂 ~ Will

@bobcantstandzyobitz9778 4 күн бұрын

I would have assumed most rear suspensions were lockable, like front suspensions. I guess not. I don't do mountain biking, though, just hybrid on gravel or paved trails, so I'll stick with my Giant Cypress for 800 dollars. That dropping seat post is really cool, though.

@tjh221 24 күн бұрын

I like the 5k bike. I bought a Norco Fluid fs3 ($2Kcad)bike 2 years ago, every part is upgradeable, only bought better fork so far. I have no complaints on how it rides.

@bikeradar 23 күн бұрын

Sounds like a good bike! There's some great bargains out there around that price point... Thanks for commenting! ~ Will

@andymoss4285 4 ай бұрын

Drop the cheap fs seat post, and do the drop. The bike can definitely cope with it

@horizon2667 24 күн бұрын

Love that rustic kick stand on the Marin ;)

@bikeradar 23 күн бұрын

We stick to what works ;-) ~ Will

@eightlivesdownmtb 4 ай бұрын

$? GO Outdoors don’t ship outside the UK 🧐

@theunknown21329 2 күн бұрын

The fact that $650 is cheap for you speaks volumes on why cycling is fucked. Ain't no way I spending that kinda money without getting an engine with it.

@Thafree 4 күн бұрын

you should use specilized for your next 650 its a 29 and a really good bang for your buck

@deniskane7870 3 ай бұрын

You double black trail looks like a low blue in our language.

@freddobar6498 3 ай бұрын

That’s uk trail centres for you

@IIISentorIII 2 ай бұрын

In Switzerland it's something between a gravel and XC trail 😁

@siskabrutsaert7718 3 ай бұрын

Bro Really Said, With a hardtale “I Will now drop into a double Black dimond” that Wild😂

@shellparsley5799 3 ай бұрын

This week my Cube Hybrid action team 140 gets delivered, can't wait...

@AnthemX100 3 ай бұрын

You are in for a treat my friend! I have one and they’re awesome. Enjoy !

@ericduan19 23 күн бұрын

I have a Giant hard tail bike for like $550 and it's awesome. I can already go to lots of places where road bikes couldn't. The only downside of a hard tail is that I can't really jump over obstacles because there's no spring in the rear. I once tried to jump over a small drainage trench & I landed the gears on the side of the trench & I broke the wire of my gear shifter. Just know your limits and you'll have lots of fun!

@bikeradar 22 күн бұрын

Sounds like you had a few adventures on the Giant! Glad you'e enjoying the riding! ~ Will

@gablof 2 ай бұрын

My santa cruz heckler SL AXO crushes all of these bikes. Even not using the battery it climbs well (im in shape) and it goes down like a magic carpet.

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like an impressive machine! Thanks for commenting! ~ Will

@mylesmackey2430 2 ай бұрын

The only issue with that hard tail is that the head tube isn’t tapered, so there aren’t any good fork upgrade options, which means you’d have to buy another frame to get a good fork. For just a little extra, you could get a frame with a tapered head tube and a bike you could actually keep forever

@simonm1447 2 ай бұрын

you can run a tapered fork in such a frame relatively easily if you use an external 1,5'' cup bearing on the underside of the headtube. On top you can run the normal semi integrated bearing. Brands like Starling use this setup as standard from factory on, they use a normal, straight 1 1/8'' headtube in general

@DR10002 Ай бұрын

I have a 12yr old bike with SRAM twist grips and a new bike with the SRAM GX Eagle AXS. Old twist grips shift so much faster, you can grab 8 gears instantly def like them better.

@masaharumorimoto4761 4 ай бұрын

27.5 until I die, love the 650b wheels :)

@jasonwooden 3 ай бұрын

Ya, he appeared to have them air-up too much. Amazing how much suspension you can get out of a properly-aired 27.5 tyre.

@seattlegrrlie 2 ай бұрын

I also ride 27.5. Smaller tyre, better handling

@DavidDavid-yk3oc 2 ай бұрын

Nice vide. I would take S-Works 😊

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! It's an incredible machine and a joy to ride! ~ Will

@StreetComp 2 ай бұрын

I have a hard tail Marin San Quentin 2 that cost $1400 and it’s been a great bike, has a dropper post and well worth it for anyone new looking to buy, though it’s pronounced with accent at the end, ma-RIN 🙂

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Love the look of the geo on the San Quentin's... ~ Will

@kingoftroll2.061 3 ай бұрын

Talkng about prices... The 650$ bike on my country Will be 3x or 4x more expensive. And looks Nice btw

@AJcyrus24 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile me riding a 120$ bike

@MegaBros64 4 ай бұрын

Why u not talking in GBP when riding in FOD, UK? 🤔

@hazfilms5363 4 ай бұрын

full send theme song

@pab26120 2 ай бұрын

I like the hard tail. I remind well when my friend with a hard tail go so fast that I cannot follow him with my full suspension bike. 😊. With this expérience, it confirm again to me that you can go faster with each bike.

@pab26120 2 ай бұрын

I explain my loss. Because my Friend was 5 years younger than me. 99% of raison. And 1% because hé was better rider. 😂😊

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, there are lots of hardtail fans out there! You're right - the rider is the most important component on any bike! ~ Will

@vlogsbyakkas343 4 ай бұрын

The exorcist style music in the background at the beginning though.....😅

@VicharB Ай бұрын

If I had 11K just for bikes, mandatory, I would go for 2K bicycle and 9K for motorcycle. :) For now I am happy with my Mongoose Switchback 2020, and upgraded with Shimano CUES U6000 10-speed groupset (originally Tourney XT 3x7 speed), MT200 hydraulic brakes (originally mech brakes), EXA Form 900i dropper and installed SR Suntour XCR32 RLR air fork. For all these I paid under $350 and ~$90 servicing. Think I am good to go for another 3 years. :)

@spectralscarfs Ай бұрын

Recently got a trail 5 for 600 cad and i love it

@bikeradar 17 күн бұрын

That's great to hear! Budget bikes are awesome these days! ~ Will

@user-qd6rg8yi3y 4 ай бұрын

$? Why?

@frederikclaeyssens9201 Ай бұрын

Let me just chime in at 7:56 for a second. 3 compound motorcycle tyres use A LOT more rubber and steel reinforcements and are barely more expensive. Food for thought eh?

@garethhughes5745 Ай бұрын

What I would buy nowadays, is a custom built Banshee Spitfire (configured for 650b), I've ridden one and honestly its an XC Weapon! fairly priced too. In this review, theres no full sus 27, no external cable routing so maintenance will be harder, and horrible bent downtube which hits logs if you get the bunny hop wrong, and none with 2 chainrings up front so cant ride my local trails as you do need very high range gears here ... damn i wouldnt buy any of them. I'll stick with my Aluminium Intense Tracer 275 from 2016 and my 2006 Giant Trance thanks. :) In the past, ever ten years or less i would buy a new mid/high end bike, and usually it was about about £200-400 increase over the years, but now, £3000 price jump is a bit silly for a worse product.

@Checkitwithamagnet 2 ай бұрын

It appeared that the Cannondale was not as smooth over the terrain. I think it may have been set with the pressures a little too high. Otherwise, you can see that the bikes are progressively smoother over the terrain. Having a dropper means that you can sit on or near the seat and allow the suspension to do the work. Without the dropper, that changes and you don't always have an optimal position available to put your weight down. That's my theory on why the Marin was not even smoother. The stumpjumper has very sophisticated suspension components which you can see.

@YoichiTenkai Күн бұрын

hey ive bought a used downhill bike, i have seen a few people put oil on their forks? so shoud i do that aswell?

@zaicariaga7635 2 күн бұрын

thats mtb dream bike its just so cool 🤑

@Stockfish1511 4 ай бұрын

Money buys happines. You just cant convince me otherwise.

@xxwookey 3 ай бұрын

Well, _some_ money obviously, but spending ten grand on an MTB is wildly unnecessary, and will add very little happiness over spending 1/10th as much, as this video demonstrates.

@Stockfish1511 3 ай бұрын

@@xxwookey If you have alot of money, spending money on a ten grand will not make you sleep less and it will give you alot of joy. There is no mountain biker that would get 10 grand bike and not be happy. I have 9 grand 2022 bike and it made me really happy. In fact i switched from 1 grand bike and it made me alot happier than 1/10th. Also widely unnecessary is widely opinionated. It all depends what kind of riding you do, what your demands are. This video demonstrates for the average rider. I like to you do 5 hours enduro rides on 1k bike course of the week. Your spinal cord will be splattered and your body will be beat. Main reason why i switched because the 1k bike was killing my body for the type of riding i did. If you will take 10k bike and ride casual trail ride on aftgernoon with your wife or kid. Then yeah go for 1k bike. Bikes from 4k up are highly specialized for certain riding. No 1000 dollar bike will be able or come close to the riding a 10k bike will give you.

@johannesrahm3900 2 ай бұрын

I bouth me an 1400€ Hardtail and i love it 😍 Orbea Alma H20

@bikeradar 17 күн бұрын

Sounds like a beast! We're filming a video featuring a hardtail very soon. Watch this space! ~ Will

@Michael-hh7nl Ай бұрын

right on

@user-rw5we4ks9v Ай бұрын

Which is best on trials santa cruz hightower cc or specialized stumpjumper evo pro t type

@TC_Prof Ай бұрын

Enjoy riding 😊😊😊

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Thanks ✌️ ~ Will

@francisgrins9566 4 ай бұрын

10.000 USD + is pointles to buy complete bike! Unless it is on atleast 40% discount! That money is meant for a proper build, as cons of slight cost decrease and even slightly higher quality components! Many websites offer huge discounts on the very top range parts almost all year round too!

@Iseenoobpeoples 16 күн бұрын

I had 5 bikes I can't go back to hardtails under 2.5k and fully under 5k, the frame alone is worth a lot so you need some money left for the components otherwise they will be heavy and/or weak and have poor performance. I need a tank that is light.

@geronimo9595 Ай бұрын

tha blue level trail (seriously no way that is a dbl black where are the off camber rock rolls the janky steep sections, the skinnies and the big gap jumps?) isnt going to stretch the more expensive bikes so the benefits aren't obvious. need to go bigger & gnarlier to see it

@allencaladiao1152 Ай бұрын

Wish i have that bike to use going to work

@puffias3717 3 ай бұрын

Got Felt Nine 70 2017 as a present some time ago could be fine for starters on some beginner trails ?

@bikeradar 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a great recipe for a rider looking to get started in mountain biking. Enjoy the journey! ~ WIll

@scotth3354 4 ай бұрын

I thought the whole idea of the super-fancy suspension systems was that you shouldn't need to lock out the rear suspension to climb a fire road, or any road, climb.

@wonderwatch2239 4 ай бұрын

It’s about kinematic’s and a lot of bike brands are stuck with a system that needs lockout to work both up and down 🤷‍♂️

@scotth3354 4 ай бұрын

@@wonderwatch2239 that's kinda the point... the Specialized system shouldn't need it. I was surprised he rode it with it locked out.

@ollyslatermtb2966 4 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the video and is content. And it was great to see all the bikes going down the same trail to have a good comparison. The only criticism I have is why is it in American dollars, not British pounds?

@UltrafineDeluxe 4 ай бұрын

Where do you think most people are watching?

@Official_Unreal_Editz Ай бұрын

I have hit harder tracks than that on a 650$ bmx😐good review tho👍

@hoozentroger Ай бұрын

So the conclusion is that all of these are comfidence inspiring! 🤔

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Well, yeah! They all have wide bars, short stems and well sorted geometry. They're all highly competent at mountain biking, offering great value for money. But, as with so many things; the more you pay, the more you get! ~ Will

@McSchwabl 4 ай бұрын

The shock on the s-works hasn’t even a piggy bag

@streddaz 4 ай бұрын

It’s a trail bike, not really needed.

@McSchwabl 4 ай бұрын

@@streddaz I think it does, the geometry is really capable, you will even take it to the bike park

@streddaz 4 ай бұрын

@@McSchwabl if you were hitting bike parks up regularly, you would be better off with the Evo. That has a piggyback shock. All a piggyback does is hold more air and/or oil for more fade resistance. You only need this if you’re doing very long, rough descents, all day long. I have a Stumpjumper Expert, and often ride Maydena bike park and still have never needed a piggyback shock. Unless you’re hitting DH level trails, 90% of the time a piggyback isn’t warranted.

@Kelingosulder Ай бұрын

Dude at least you have working suspension, dude my hard tail is basically a hard everything, none of the suspension works😅

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Oh man that sounds tough! Keep up the riding Nathan, and try to get that fork serviced! ~ Will

@artinos_nikolas Ай бұрын

8:46 if you descend in an office chair you gona be transitioning to a wheel chair pretty soon😂

@maciej_ma 4 ай бұрын

Why you didn't drop saddle on first 2 bikes on a downhill? For me it is unfair comparison.

@PawnSacrifice 4 ай бұрын

If you want to appeal to a US audience use bikes available in the US, or stick to UK an GBP. For the Calibre and Marin dropping the posts would have allowed moving around on the descent for a more equal comparison. Also, know the products, effusing about the tyres on the S-Works as if they're something special when they're seen as a budget friendly option and certainly cheaper than those on the Cannondale. Having watched a lot of Stumpjumper Evo tests, and trail bike field tests over the past couple years, what's interesting is that most favour the SJ Alloy Elite over the carbon SJ bikes and it's around the same price as the Cannondale! There was a good point about the rear suspension giving better traction, with the Sumpjumper the more interesting point with that bike is the fact that the kinematics are so good you don't need to lock it out. If you do one of these again it would probably be worth talking to the pros and cons of each change, internal cable routing, neater but can be noisy and harder to work out, AXS more robust, slick, but need to charge batteries... internal storage is a big one, totally missed. What are the marginal gains and are they worth it? Good work using the same route.

@Reall 2 ай бұрын

Love your moustache

@bikeradar 2 ай бұрын

Why thank you 💁‍♂️ ~ Will

@rantingwrench 3 ай бұрын

"Clark (sic) M2 brakes" as the camera pans over a set of calipers with 'SHIMANO' emblazoned on them. A minute in and we're off to a good start, lads.

@simonm1447 2 ай бұрын

These brakes are (like you say Shimano) MT200s with RT10 rotors. Still a decent combination for beginner bikes.

@trailpimp6369 4 ай бұрын

No direct to consumer options?

@thyrsus07 29 күн бұрын

Wow, those are pretty expensive bike stand sticks. 😆

@bikeradar 29 күн бұрын

They're organic and biodegradable! 😅 ~ Will

@mtbpuskar 2 ай бұрын

Wish I have also like this bikes

@TeleCS 3 ай бұрын

Awesome vid. What helmet are you wearing.

@bikeradar 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! It's a Troy Lee A3 in Uno Camo Blue colourway: troyleedesigns.co.uk/products/sp22-a3-helmet-uno-blue

@TeleCS 3 ай бұрын

@@bikeradarthx mate.

@themortgageminute6382 Ай бұрын

I like this

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Thanks chap, good to hear! Thanks for commenting. ~ Will

@markbatarina4512 Ай бұрын

Intro was definitely a Doug Demuro intro but with mountain bikes.

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Haha, I just watched some of his vids and I totally agree! He has 5m subs so I will definitely take that as a compliment ❤️😅 ~ Will

@azteczulu1 19 күн бұрын

This is just my personal opinion as a bike tech (many other techs agree) with a major bike manufacturer, I would NOT buy or ride a carbon fiber bike to do jumps or very technical trails. Once you know, you know. Expensive bikes are pretty but once you break things, expensive bikes (yes, the manufacturers tell you its covered under warranty...blah, blah, blah) becomes super expensive and/or time consuming to fix.

@DMatalas Ай бұрын

Strange how after the first bike the uphill part on the rest of the bikes looked really bumpy ?? Makes me think you blew the comparison by not having a 29er hard tail with good lock out shocks. And the new best racer versions of the prefered model has a tiny rear shock..

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting! We have a video featuring a hardtail 29er in the works. Watch this space... ~ Will

@mtb_flowrider2746 2 ай бұрын

I know FOD when I see it. Just curious though. You’re at a bike park in England but pricing the bikes in dollars. Why?

@tjh221 24 күн бұрын

Where do I buy a stick wooden bikestand? I imagine it's light weight and practical.

@bikeradar 22 күн бұрын

They're available in all good bike shops, or down the woods! They're adjustable to size and fully bio-degradable! ~ Will

@richardvankastle359 4 ай бұрын

Starting with a Marin Rift Zone frame I built up my own 26 lb full suspension bike for a little over $3000 USD including the frame price. I waited for parts sales and did some wheeling and dealing and got my dream bike for much less money than retail. That includes a fox factory 34 fork.

@johndef5075 3 ай бұрын

26 lbs. is impressive. Should be a ripper.

@richardvankastle359 3 ай бұрын

@@johndef5075 Just had my first trail ride of the year yesterday. Man it's fun flicking around a light bike.

@johndef5075 2 ай бұрын

I just built a 2017 Sworks Epic WC from a new old stock frame. Full XT 12 speed with a Fox 32 Stepcast fork. With alloy cockpit and wheels its 25.2 lbs. with pedals. The bike is amazing and ended up costing around $2800. Couldnt be happier.

@johndef5075 2 ай бұрын

@richardvankastle359 im firmly in the light fast category. Shocked at how much some new bikes weigh.

@richardvankastle359 2 ай бұрын

@@johndef5075 Beautiful! I love flicking around a light bike

@ianfinnerty3016 2 ай бұрын

Any lap times for the bikes featured

@FloMaxxYT Ай бұрын

Can you make a Video from downhill bikes?❤

@bikeradar Ай бұрын

What a great idea! We will have to get our thinking caps on! Thanks for commenting! ~ Will

@dawnriches5946 3 ай бұрын

I thought this was supposed to be MBUK not MBUSA ?

@InfoRanker 26 күн бұрын

How much were those sticks to prop up each bike though?

@bikeradar 24 күн бұрын

😅

@reaganhughes169 3 ай бұрын

I wish you had spoken to a bit more specs, like weight, price of parts, brake rotor size, etc. Also size of axles, bearings and many other important things. Like the hardtail headset is smaller than the other ones and says in the manual when you buy it 'Not designed for downhill use'

@reaganhughes169 3 ай бұрын

And dropper post, rims, drivetrain, the critical importance of fork and shock settings and tuning for different riding and riders.

@reaganhughes169 3 ай бұрын

And I think the biggest truth here: a cheap hardtail will break if you push it hard enough on things the 5k+ bike is able to handle. Especially on very rocky bumpy stuff longterm

@andrejhaluska4061 3 ай бұрын

Everything over 4K is wasting money.

@JJK-hxh 2 ай бұрын

I agree

@user-qo5nz3qb6j 2 ай бұрын

3k bike with a decent mid drive motor and concealed battery installed will save anyone 7k. Turn it to eco and the weight is not even noticeable. Over 4 grand is definitely a waste of money

@davidpratt4258 2 ай бұрын

100%

@Azi2O23 Ай бұрын

🧢

@michaelKOTD Ай бұрын

Anything over 300€ and off facebook marketplace is wasting money 😂 like bro if youre making less than 100k a year salary you should be investing that money not paying 4k for a bike 😂 Wagey4ever