Very glad you enjoyed it

Had a Suzuki 125 T 20. Lot of fun. 1973 Netherlands

@@petergerritgroen3157 My best friend had a Suzuki 125 T20 My RD125 and his Suzuki 125 T20 were great bikes.

I had an rd250f, 350b and a 400f all air-cooled, I had two lc 250s and an lc 350 and a dt175mx on the road and 175dt mx on the track..... happier days 😊

I still love the styling of 1970's & early 80's bikes. In fact prefer the look over what came later. Performance, Handling & reliability is something else though

The AP was the bike to go for if you didn’t want to follow the Hurd it seems

Andrew we are kindred spirits same age and same bike. Bought mine P registration for $225 pounds in Hayes outside London. Regularly did 50mph and put over 10,000miles on it. Sold it to a buddy’s girlfriend friend a year later so I could buy a Honda 175cc

Exactly the same as me , bought my AP50 in March 1976 just turned 16 , got it from Trevor Goodalls a Suzuki main dealer in Didcot Oxfordshire , had 2 months left at school then that boiling hot summer .....halcyon days indeed , i owned many bikes after that went through a race bike phase then a Harley phase now got a Yamaha T Max 500 best bike i'v ever owned .

I had an FSID like the Yellow one, and always wondered what the Suzi was like and now I am 63 !

I had a purple fs1e in 1976. Loved it. Kept it for 2 years. Wish I still had it, just loved buzzing around on it in good weather.

Glad you enjoyed it

It was brutally hot that year Was in whales with my parents, you couldn’t walk bare foot on the sand Would have preferred to be buzzing around on your puch I think

Me and you both mate.

Snap re the year and the Puch…except I spent the summer paying for it working in a poultry processing factory ..ugggh!

@@kentonnur nice What fun

Glad you enjoyed it

Tiger cross is getting a lot of mentions, I need to check them out

I had a mate in the 70s who could bump start his tiger cross backwards, was funny seeing him shoot away backwards. Never went far tho 😉

Glad you enjoyed it

1997 ?

Must be a very steep hill, never got near that on mine I have to say. My sons 50cc scooter could but was much modified it must be said. 60 would have felt bloody fast on one of those things mind

@@elizabethcanavan3755 Correction 1977; Punk, Fleetwood Mac, Meatloaf, beautiful young girls ............

AP50's were generally quicker than fizzies due to the 5speed gearbox. I had both, and whilst the fizzie went around corners better, the AP was definitely quicker in a straight line. Unfortunately my AP ended it's life burrowed into the side of a brown Mk1 Ford escort. (Hence buying a fizzie).

Pushed a friends AP50 as hard as I could with a GT550. Could not get above 58 mph until he pulled his clutch in. Then managed over 80. The engine was just acting as a brake. I previously had an FS1E as my first bike, and I would say that the AP50 was a better bike than the FS1E, by a very small margin, in just about every department.

Think of its value today if you hadn’t scrapped it, sounds like it was used to do what it was designed for though

Thanks 👍🏻

That’s a win win

Well leaves me room for next time 😉

Yes, Puch made some interesting mopeds.

Yes agreed. Never saw either but did see those you mentioned. Garelli & Casal were two others I recall

I had a motebecane in 1973

My first bike was a Gillera 50 give to me by my uncle. In part 2 don't forget MZ Simpson.

All in good time

@@overlandworld2253 forgot about the Gilera trials, it was a lovely bike 👍

Who helped you strip it down Dob, don't think it was me ? Moores with two Os and still going strong.

@@andrewdking Robert from Chipperfield with the Tiger Cross

@@robinbowler2955 Gawd ! 😬 The hamlet of Commonwood to be more exact. Good pub there though 🍺

Disc brake on an Ss50 talk about all the mod cons

@@bikerdood1100 it was only cable operated , the old drum was probably better , but looked good 🙂 will have to check out your other videos 👍

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Hearing a lot about the Garelli

s@@bikerdood1100 That's why I watched your vid but never mind. I had a couple of Garelli Tiger Cross' in yellow/black ( to N and a few P plates available) also an Agrati Garelli (available to R plate 1977) in black & red. Faster than all the rest until the RD50 came out & some lads derestricted them.

Need a second video I think

I remember the Fantic caballero's some kids had them & ( at the time) they looked absolutely huge, with a tiny engine & a 6 speed box with an incredibly close ratio gearbox.

@@merlin5476 sound expensive don’t they Think this is why I waited a year and started on road on a 125, once the 30mph limit came in I couldn’t see the point. Oh and I didn’t have any money and poor parents so something like a Fantic at 16 would be a fantasy for me

It always seems strange to me that the fizzys make so much money these days .Yes there were loads of them but they weren’t very quick and didn’t even look like a motorbike ,with the motor canted a long way forward and no down tubes on the frames.The ap50 was quicker but looked even worse.I was 16 in 1978 & virtually everyone I knew bought July 77 or earlier derestricted Italian peds-fantic gt’s,ti’s,or caballeros.garelli tiger crosses,or the gilera trail 50.All looked like proper bikes and were way faster than a fizzy,with the exception of the gilera that was about the same.

@@johnb5352 don’t ask me to explain it. Totally mysterious when you can pick up a Triumph Bonnie or a Suzuki GS 550 for less money 🤷🏼

Definitely worth Getting early bike

I'm the same age, and have no regrets about buying a Fizzy, they were, and still are iconic

When I got my SS50 in 1974 it was £210 and the FS1E was a little cheaper but an extra tenner for indicators. Those early gold ones were beautiful, 2 of the lads at school got them. Ours was the 1st year to have to stay on for a 5th year at school. The slightly younger one threatened to beat the other one up if he brought the Fizzie to school when he turned 16

We called them Fizzers. I left school in ‘74, and got a vacation job for the summer at the company where I was due to start my aircraft engineering apprenticeship in December. I had a nice Carlton Corsa race bike, so I caught the bus to the training school over the winter, and waited until I was 17 in the following May when I got a 1968 C50 (a ‘granddad bike’ according to my mates), thus bypassing the moped era and the extra costs. Many of those mates were paying off their Fizzers and SS50s for years on the never never, whereas I bought my C50 from a local evening paper advert, with the cash I’d saved from my summer job. And in a flat out race (over a straight mile with a long sweeping corner at the end), partially due to the mild tuning I did to the engine, I beat a lad on his Fizzer, for a bet - which the little creep refused to pay up! The whole world was a different place back then, and we were different people too. Ride safe

@Trafficsnitch. All along was under the impression under 17 you could not ride anything other than a moped 50cc or under and it had to have pedals! this was mid 1970s.

Glad you enjoyed it

Glad you enjoyed it

Lot of suggestions for various bikes coming up

Oh at least , this could run and run

I had an ex race bike , a Ducati 50 SL2 that had been registered as a moped . Piston ported cylinder , Boranni alloy rims , Dunlop trigonic race tyres full expansion chamber and 6v battery lights . Capable of nearly 90 mph .

@@georgerobartes2008 sounds great, but how long did it last? Or rather, eat pistons and conrods... What I can recall, Italian bikes did not often have an air cleaner on, toe curling...

@@paulh.5691The engine featured in Cesare Bossaglias book '2 Stroke High Performance Tuning' of 1968 for its design features along with the Parilla kart engines he designed . The engine had a cylinder with hard chrome bore which lasted indefinitely , but had standard spares of course . Modifying standard cylinders to race spec meant a trip to the local friendly dentist ( friends Dad) to use his drill . The pistons were fitted with ' Dyke ' L section rings ,seals etc., and were readily available mail order from Mick Walker Motorcycles in Cambridgeshire after the dealer in Walthamstow dried up . The use of castor oil in the premix was a must back then as no synthetics were available . No crank issues whatsoever as it never ran a flywheel to load out the bearings , just a balance and ignition trigger with battery CD ignition . I had been building racing engines for some time before I could legally ride in the UK so had the kit to modify this and other engines etc. , plus I used school equipment during Metalwork later Technology classes to split cranks , O ring cylinder heads and machine up parts as needed . Your correct , the carburettor was a 20 mm Dellorto with horizontal throttle body , vertical float chamber and a simple ram pipe , tuned to length . The bike was slow compared to GP bikes by Honda , Suzuki and Kriedler in the early/ mid 70s , and peaky with poor acceleration but amazing handling and grip made up for this as bends could be taken much faster than anything else on the road and great fun .

I couldn’t afford one on road, poor parents so I had to wait until I had my own money to get my first bike a GS125

@@bikerdood1100 I had to wait too!. Ended up with a BSA Bantam D3 150cc non runner for 80 quid that Dad and I 'rebuilt'. Still have it, although in pieces awaiting a proper resto!. 🤣 Great bike to learn on.

@@robleary3353 early Bantams we’re quite reliable, we had a D14 which was rather overstressed and quite troublesome by comparison

Bet that was bloody hard work

Remember the AR 80 well Absolutely tiny motorcycle. Quite quick for its size

I remember the AE80. The trial version. Great little bikes

Definitely like your classic fours

How much do you want for the Bullet? :)

@@bradmoss966 lol, are you serious?

Ahh the memories

Well we try Thanks for the feedback

If imagine they are pretty rare now

The wide tank gives more of a big bike feel Fs has a very narrow tank to my kind

A sad comment on the times is that in my sons college year only one other kid had a bike

@@bikerdood1100 Yes, it's changed days. Now if you get a bunch of bikers together it's like being in a retirement home.😂

@@tsport6368 ain’t that the truth 😂😂😂

Nothing like the first bike

I had an SS50 too. Brilliant little bike. Wish I’d known about the throttle slide back then !

That’s a very rudimentary restriction device

​@@chrisdean3072 I knew about it but didn't bother cutting the bottom of the slide off. It only added a couple of mph at most.

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it

Glad you enjoyed it

You should check out UK laws now Talk about anti biker 🤬

I was caught out by this, my mate got his bike licence on his 16th birthday in October, by my 16th in December the same year I could only have a moped. He had a James 150 and a Greaves 250 trials bike and I could only have a Puch and a Honda PC50. It didn’t stop me riding his bikes on occasions though, off the public highway of course.

@@garyhill9723 well of course 🤫

I later choices of bikes are often inspired that way. I had a book as a young guy with a Guzzi lemans in it, I’ve spent most of my life on Guzzi’s as a result

I was given my father’s 5 gear SS50 for my 16th birthday. Yes, it was slower than all the unrestricted 2 stroke mopeds, but it ran like a sewing machine and never once let me down despite being relegated to my winter bike after passing my test and using my savings to by an RD200. Got dropped several times and the only part that actually failed was the clutch lever.

@@NotALot-xm6gz well the Honda was built with economical reliable running in mind. I think without a doubt the most important thing I’ve learned in the decades of riding is that it’s much better to stay onboard the thing. And falling of really hurts Oh and it’s expensive to repair them sometimes

I found my younger brother's 5 sp SS50 was perfect for winter riding, while my Triumph cafe racer was laid up in the warm & dry. Especially on those icy roads where you slid down the camber and rode in the gutter. The cool kids at senior school rode the Garelli 50 GT.

@@robertgregory8964 Those Garellis were mental if you could afford to keep them in new pistons. :)

My pleasure

You always remember your first bike

Well I’m trying to save some for a later video

Glad it brought back some memories

My son is a touch over 6ft Looked quite funny on his Peugeot scooter at 16

Memories

@@bikerdood1100 Definitely luckily all good ones

@@keithquestedelectrical9785 well some one is because they aren’t mine . Well alert from the Yamaha at the beginning and end of the video and that was a full on 100ccs

I fit heated grips to everything these days Too old for cold fingers

Puch is featured on another video Part 3 I think 🤔

Happy days

Hope you get many more years out of them

A lot less than a car Freedom on two wheels

Happy memories

Glad it brought back some good memories

Glad you enjoyed it

Just makes me think 1979 was a bloody long time ago

Thanks Glad you enjoyed it

That’s a bike, freedom on two wheels

Always imagine the pedals being bloody hard work

@@bikerdood1100 ooooooh yes, imagine a push bike dragging a heavy lead weight, that’d be about it, thighs of iron! 🤣🤣

@@christal-clear4505 well that sounds fun

Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks for the feedback In the UK we never use Kph, I must try and include it for Europe and Canada 🇨🇦

40 years ago my first bike was a Honda MT5, I don't think it was available in the US, in the UK both models were restricted to 30MPH, I managed to tune mine up a bit so that it did around 45MPH. Last year I decided to buy a basket case of an MT5, I've rebuilt it and applied all my 2 stroke tuning 'know-how' just to see what I could get out of the bike. Even with my 13 stone sat on it I'm getting 55MPH out of it on the flat which I'm pleased with! (it has taken a lot of work to get this sort of speed out of it)

31 years ago my first bike was a W reg Honda MB5, every penny I got was thrown at her, before I turned 16 I had the standard cylinder bored out to the limit with paper thin walls. Up jetted, bean can micron and K&N, she would sit under 50 on the very bouncy speedo. That lasted a month and the crank bearing collapsed. Chucked a 2nd hand engine in her ( £25 ) from the local bike breakers that came with a proper 65 kit. Different animal now with a proper power band, this lasted me for months until a car pulled out on me and I went superman. Next was the MT5, dropped a H100 engine in with all the 50s electrics. Honestly don’t know how many times I flipped her. These were some of the best days of my life, still got the knee scars to prove it.

No the MT 5 was never available in the states to my knowledge . And it's so sad your bikes were restricted to 30mph . My MB would do 55 mph from the factory 60 if I laid down and the wind was to my back . Back then our interstate system had a 55mph limit rather than today's 70mph . I took that bike as far as 200 miles away from home in all directions. And I too still have scars on my knees from practicing stopping fast . One time I pulled the front brake a little to hard and she washed out . I put a smaller back sprocket on it after I wore the original one out and top speed was 60 to 65 mph with a slower take off . Such fond memories. Thanks for sharing yours with me . Todays temp is supposed to reach 70° farenhight. I definitely need to put a few miles on my 750 aero to keep the battery charged . No plans on laying it down 😆

@@charliepatterson9321 I have always felt that 45 to 50 mph is an absolute minimum. 30 is just plain dangerous and was definitely the concept of a non biker

In Yorkshire too, bet hills were a tonne of fun Well down bank at least

Nice

A lot can be achieved on the right hill

@@bikerdood1100 yes, going up hills and leaving all the other 50s behind, SS50s always were first left behind. After sooping up you had to change the sprockets to stop the engine screaming 15000 rpm in top

Well it’s not mine of course, but many British riders could only dream of 42 mph, 30mph limit is crazy

As I like to say bikes make memories

A shame Motobecane didn’t survive as an independent manufacturer

Thanks 🙏

A very steep hill 😂

Well would cost a fair bit more now. Still bloody economical though

And the ss didn't heat seize on Sunday trips to the coast!

@@sambrooks7862 😆yes you're right but it took us twice as long to get there, but as we did not seize the engine we also got home again!

@@stevieb9699 but the 2 strokes had to stop for petrol more often aswell, the furthest I rode mine was about 250 miles. My mate had family in Sussex so we rode there from East anglia. Because we could use the motorways it took ages, especially when we encountered a hill!

Well that’s what they told you I expect

It’s always a bit of a moment when a small bike hits the limit

Glad you enjoyed it

Glad you enjoyed it

Lot of miles on a small bike. But I know where your coming from. I used my first bike at every opportunity, haven’t really changed more than 3 decades later

Well apart from the maxi episode

Speed is definitely relative

Exactly the same route to biking I took as well. Both of them!

@@MarkTuttleG0TMT What a coincidence

Glad you enjoyed it

Don’t forget the fuel economy

No problem

What can you get for 200 quid these days 🤔

@@bikerdood1100 I think you'd struggle to get a night out to be honest. Thanks for doing the videos, great memories/dreams!

Need to save some for part 2

Seems a 50/50 split between the Ap and the fizzy

I started on a 125, no one buying me a bike so had to wait til I was earning. Definitely could wait for a car as I bloody hate them Could not wait for a bigger bike however Did learn to drive in my 40s so I could transport our son Could not wait for him to b3 able to ride with me Still own a car, still don’t like it , rarely do . Bloody tin cans 😂😂

Rumbelows what a bizarre place to get a moped. I got my first fridge from there. Like the Tomos and Bondbugs at Woolies

Isn’t it though

You may need a bit more than 50 quidditch know

Great to learn on fields, softer landings

Bikes make memories That’s a fact Why I’m never without one , or three well 4 actually

Thanks for the feedback

I do miss the smell of the things, see them so rarely now and we sold our last stroker last year

Thanks 🙏

Don’t know why they ever restricted the things Definitely a law cooked up by someone who’d never ridden in his life

Bikes bring freedom

Oh we all have those bikes, the ones with the regrets attached

As my Grandfather always told me a bad ride is a lot better than a good walk Or bus I would add

Shhh Don’t let the law know 😂

Glad you enjoyed it

@@bikerdood1100 my mate had the fs1e, he used to whizz by me when turning the fuel line valve off briefly to get a high air mix boost😳

@@Gabblerwba1 it’s no wonder so many peds broke down

Tiny chopper bikes are a strange concept. I remember Yamaha made one

Good suggestions, will fit them in at some point but they maybe early 80s bikes

Yamaha DT50M too

Bikes make memories

I’m covering the Fantic in part 2, quick but demanding little beast

Don’t think the designers would have had someone of your size in mind when they developing their mopeds

One of my mates had a Malagutti trials type moped and another lad had one with clip ons and a 1 into 2 exhaust.Beautiful bikes.

Well rear then so very much so now. In truth they probably seized because of shite oil, a stroker can take a massive amount of abuse in reality

@bikerdood1100 yeah, they only had to pull over and let it cool for 10mins and away we went.

Fell off ?

@@bikerdood1100 well I guess, with a bit of help from me.