Will the Suns Silence the Doubters in the Pacific Division? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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Bill Simmons

9 ай бұрын

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House and Ryen Russillo to talk about the stacked NBA Pacific Division.
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@nickwestphal7113
@nickwestphal7113 9 ай бұрын
Thank God these guys no longer work for ESPN! This is the best basketball content available, anywhere, period! Simmons and Russillo are 2 of the best in the biz.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
ESPN is such a shit show.
@vinceventura4453
@vinceventura4453 9 ай бұрын
Kid he’s not worked at espn for like 20 years you dork , he’s got a production company that started 30 for 30 because of it being part of his idea ..he’s not worked for espn since obama was in office ..stop trying so hard to get likes on KZfaq comments your better then that man
@norebab3818
@norebab3818 9 ай бұрын
And Joe House, put sum respek
@mjwbulich
@mjwbulich 9 ай бұрын
Basketball is what they're really passionate about and you can tell.
@39872adnan
@39872adnan 9 ай бұрын
@@norebab3818hearing House complain about his Washington basketball team is always GOLD
@socalkylex
@socalkylex 9 ай бұрын
Ginobili ceiling for Reeves may be the nicest thing Bill has ever said about a laker
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
Booker in the playoffs last year: 33.7, 4.8, 7.2 on 58.5/50.5/87 % shooting against the Clippers and Nuggets. Only team to win two off the Nuggets.
@zurkthajerkgaming
@zurkthajerkgaming 9 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Booker magically became a lockdown defender in that series. I’m sure it had nothing to do with the officiating 🤢🤮
@adhiatmajamy4617
@adhiatmajamy4617 9 ай бұрын
@@zurkthajerkgamingwhat
@tindobranic4791
@tindobranic4791 9 ай бұрын
Not really, all 4 losses were blowouts mostly while the 2 wins they needed KD and primarily Book to go OFF historically and those were close. I would argue the Laker sweep was closer than the Suns due to the fact they were in every game till the buzzer.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 9 ай бұрын
And team sucked...they got rid off everyone
@SuperGiantpenguins
@SuperGiantpenguins 9 ай бұрын
@@tindobranic4791bros trying to argue a sweep was a closer series than a 6 games 😂😂😂
@kylemartin6300
@kylemartin6300 9 ай бұрын
Russilo “I …just think nurkic sucks” Made me lol so hard for some reason
@39872adnan
@39872adnan 9 ай бұрын
That was gold lol
@Phx0407
@Phx0407 9 ай бұрын
Russilo is right Booker is built way different
@BackWhereYouStarted
@BackWhereYouStarted 9 ай бұрын
I could listen to these guys banter for hours
@parulp6385
@parulp6385 9 ай бұрын
Booker will be in the top 3 MVP conversation this year, he will be the best player on the Suns
@JasonMiller-rg8md1
@JasonMiller-rg8md1 9 ай бұрын
WTF! Have these guys been watching the Suns? The have Okogee and Goodwin for point of attack defense and they got 6 foot 8 wings for days coming off the bench. Injury concerns go for every team. The Suns are DEEP af. I cnt wait for these guys look like fools, about 3 weeks into the season when they see how good this team actually is
@JasonMiller-rg8md1
@JasonMiller-rg8md1 9 ай бұрын
clearly they didnt watch the Suns bench players dominate the lakers starters last night gtfo
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
Bron exposed everyone on Phoenix. Phoenix has no answers for Bron and AD and ur ass got outplayed the first half. Imagine if Beal & Booker was in there, it woulda been a lot worse cuz the Lakers woulda had 60-70 in the first half w those 2 on there. Beal and Booker not plus defenders
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@JasonMiller-rg8md1 Phoenix will be at the bottom fighting for a play in spot cuz they have no defense and depth
@enricomiguelrequilman6000
@enricomiguelrequilman6000 9 ай бұрын
​@@JasonMiller-rg8md1In their defense, this podcast was before the Lakers vs. Suns preseason game
@maciedixon3983
@maciedixon3983 9 ай бұрын
@@JasonMiller-rg8md1yup
@johnnytimestamp8224
@johnnytimestamp8224 9 ай бұрын
6:40 doubling down on Shamet = Beal Holy 💩
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
Just saying Beal wouldn't have swung the series. That's fair.
@proximoAZ
@proximoAZ 9 ай бұрын
⁠no it’s not. Durant and book had zero help and still beat them twice. Shamet is maybe my most hated suns player ever, he is horrendously bad.
@Juice-ig3jz
@Juice-ig3jz 9 ай бұрын
@proximoAZ y’all are living off those two lucky ass games were you two best players played out of their mind and you barely one. Our wins were dominate against y’all lol. It’s not close Beal ain’t doing shit and I’ll be back to comment when we repeat.
@maciedixon3983
@maciedixon3983 9 ай бұрын
@@David-iv6jeno. The suns with any help could have beat Denver
@ayooot5850
@ayooot5850 9 ай бұрын
@@proximoAZshamet nd lee are terrible
@reggienoble3195
@reggienoble3195 9 ай бұрын
This was really good solid NBA Talk...Just what I was looking for as Opening Day is 2moro and I've ignored the entire Pre-Season. so today and tomorrow afternoon I'll be trying to find more NBA team breakdowns to get up to speed...This was good..I'll try to find your other division breakdowns now..
@_Xds_
@_Xds_ 9 ай бұрын
Man bills takes have gotten completely insane over the years. Dude couldn't go 15 seconds without bringing up tatum 😂 The suns dont have to worry about guarding tatum in the finals cause he'll just start bricking when it matters most. He just doesnt have that killer in him that book does
@adamsmith9080
@adamsmith9080 9 ай бұрын
real Book has consistent killer instinct people that don’t think so don’t watch Suns ball fr
@czexmixdoteth
@czexmixdoteth 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I would really like to see all of the audio podcasts available in video. I know it might seem like it shouldn't matter, but I pay more attention to the content if I have the ability to watch the speakers. Thanks!
@17NateJohnson
@17NateJohnson 9 ай бұрын
Lebron doesn’t affect winning the same way. It’s not a cliff. It’s just what we saw last year: Lebron is the headline, but AD determines whether the team wins.
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
he still does to this day. Why do niggas play better w Bron instead of w/o?
@Sheldinho4
@Sheldinho4 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111almost replied to prove you wrong but given your name it’s a lost cause lol
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@Sheldinho4 nah. He got 4 championships, about to win a 5th this year watch
@Sheldinho4
@Sheldinho4 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111 nice
@nikosvault
@nikosvault 9 ай бұрын
He also doesn’t affect winning the same way because he is playing in a real conference now. 2 missed playoffs. 1st round exit. WCF sweep. The West is a b*tch.
@ExVoto63
@ExVoto63 9 ай бұрын
Suns have three of the best offensive players in the game and Simmons is asking "Who's gonna cover Luka?", "Who's gonna chase Steph Curry around screens?" How about who in the hell is gonna cover KD, Book, and Beal?
@gilbertarballo
@gilbertarballo 9 ай бұрын
I can't even remember who guarded him in the heat series Tatum performed a great choke job there all by his lonesome 😅😂
@detnibul9361
@detnibul9361 9 ай бұрын
I trust James Jones talent evaluation over these 3 guys. Simmons and Rusillo are entertaining but their opinions are just that, opinions. We'll see how the season plays out but I bet the Suns put all of these concerns about defense to rest early in the season. Vogel is a huge upgrade over Monty Williams as far as defensive coaching goes. And Kevin Young has the offense already in a dangerous spot for other teams.
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
nah. Phoenix gonna struggle against teams that have depth like the Lakers, Nuggets, etc cuz those are the 2 best teams in the West and they have to go through both of them
@maciedixon3983
@maciedixon3983 9 ай бұрын
One of these dudes is a mavs Stan. Did they watch the Lakers pre season. Lmao. We aren’t worried
@maciedixon3983
@maciedixon3983 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111watch the pre season game. Not concerned idiot
@johnnelson3665
@johnnelson3665 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111Lakers have depth? They fooled me in the preseason. It seems they rely heavily on Anthony Davis.
@MasonMiles5
@MasonMiles5 9 ай бұрын
I agree with Simmons in that the Suns aren’t going to be a juggernaut regular season team & tbh it does make sense not ride their 3 star players all yr long. Especially Durant given his injury history/age. Keep them healthy for the end of the season & hope they finish strong going into the postseason with momentum & good team chemistry. The roster has deficiencies as it currently stands, but they’re a team that will add buyout guys & can possibly make a trade for an overlooked guy at the deadline who help round out the roster & be impactful. I do think Jordan Goodwin should & will be a very important player for the team as defensive guard. Nassir Little as well if he can stay healthy & buy into his role. Playing off of Durant, Booker & Beal is going to make it so much easier for guys on offense.
@ki2726
@ki2726 9 ай бұрын
Russilo says Nurkic sucks like Ayton doesn’t
@ldmb1966
@ldmb1966 9 ай бұрын
at least Ayton plays lmao
@aolkid121
@aolkid121 9 ай бұрын
Like there ain't levels to the suckage
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
Dude had an 18 and 10 last year. But he did that with 3 elite guys feeding him. "Dominayton" is in for a rude surprise this year.
@ki2726
@ki2726 9 ай бұрын
@@David-iv6je Those counting stats means nothing. He’s another Christian Wood. Good stats bad team guy. Don’t impact winning.
@chadingram6390
@chadingram6390 9 ай бұрын
He's been averaging those numbers since he walked into the league, y'alll really are casuals huh? @@David-iv6je
@marcr196
@marcr196 9 ай бұрын
Bill trying to downplay the fact he said: "Are we sure Bradley Beal instead of Landry Shamet makes any difference in the Nuggets series?" to "Denver would've still beaten them" is insane damage control
@StonerKitchen
@StonerKitchen 9 ай бұрын
the okogie and Goodwin disrespect tells me they dont watch the suns
@JB-qt4hp
@JB-qt4hp 9 ай бұрын
If every team stays 90% healthy or better, and that's a BIG if, this could be the best division in NBA history. Either way, it's gonna be wild seeing this season play out.
@1jahr3instrumente
@1jahr3instrumente 9 ай бұрын
Great !! Thank you!
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 9 ай бұрын
It’s all about matchups. Seeding doesn’t matter.
@shemmcetoogreezy4639
@shemmcetoogreezy4639 9 ай бұрын
This is what we all been waiting for 👀
@johnnytimestamp8224
@johnnytimestamp8224 9 ай бұрын
Beal missed games. Covid twice, wrist surgery and sitting at end of season/tanking. I think he’ll play 70+
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think so. He’s injury prone just like KD and Book
@StonerKitchen
@StonerKitchen 9 ай бұрын
how dare you counter with actual context.
@StonerKitchen
@StonerKitchen 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111 They just went on a whole speel about how suns are injury prone then turn around and say the like the lakers as if AD isnt made of glass
@Murali_bala13
@Murali_bala13 9 ай бұрын
Beal is overrated.... I'd pick Reaves to have a better season as #3 on his team than Beal who hasn't done anything of significance in last 3 yrs
@johnnytimestamp8224
@johnnytimestamp8224 9 ай бұрын
he played for the Wizards....THE WIZARDS @@Murali_bala13
@purrinkittyz4737
@purrinkittyz4737 9 ай бұрын
Bro do research on the suns bench! NOBODY has a better bench than Phoenix! Trust me! Teams will have to drop 125 a game to beat them.. not an easy task
@nicholaspereira1808
@nicholaspereira1808 9 ай бұрын
Anyone else notice how a piece of Ryan's mic fits perfectly on Andre the Giant's nose?
@GeeElLobo
@GeeElLobo 9 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to Bill trashing a player and then later on in the season praising the player like he never trashed him. Like every year
@mattwhitely1067
@mattwhitely1067 9 ай бұрын
Durant is wayyy better than Dame
@HahaHaha-km4sm
@HahaHaha-km4sm 9 ай бұрын
How so
@mattwhitely1067
@mattwhitely1067 9 ай бұрын
@@HahaHaha-km4sm for starters KD plays good defence and is obviously a better rebounder. KD is also a better scorer from more positions than Dame.
@deboboomin5989
@deboboomin5989 9 ай бұрын
@@mattwhitely1067he has to be trolling if he got to ask you “How so” nobody is choosing Dam over KD it’s simple as that you don’t got to explain yourself to him bro
@Srtdwill
@Srtdwill 9 ай бұрын
This man just said how so wym you clearly don’t watch basketball if u can’t look n see something wrong with you two eyeballs
@QGuides
@QGuides 9 ай бұрын
I love with these three get together
@evanwrenn402
@evanwrenn402 9 ай бұрын
Can't forget about the Wiseman experiment with the Warriors last year. They started 3-7 before they finally decided to stop playing him.
@shorafarahani
@shorafarahani 9 ай бұрын
Keegan Murray is going to be in conversation for most improved. He has all the proper ingredients. He is going to be a better Paul George
@adamsmith9080
@adamsmith9080 9 ай бұрын
BETTER Paul George? PG is a HOF!! FOH. Keegan Murray never going to be in MVP convo. He’s nice, but he’s not PG nice.
@EBizz85
@EBizz85 9 ай бұрын
​@@adamsmith9080lol this is only his 2nd year calm down
@smitsta
@smitsta 9 ай бұрын
Haha good pod boys
@danielduncan6370
@danielduncan6370 9 ай бұрын
Why does Magic look so Sus 😅😂😂
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 29 күн бұрын
Klay in a contract year aged like sushi in sunlight
@Vic_8a
@Vic_8a 9 ай бұрын
Who's guarding Phoenix Big Three from any of the teams mentioned?
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
and who’s Phoenix guarding on the other end? It’s all about defense nigga and Phoenix doesn’t play any defense
@HahaHaha-km4sm
@HahaHaha-km4sm 9 ай бұрын
A team with chemistry will beat them.. if the shots not falling they can be had cause what defenders do they have? No perimeter defenders and big defenders..
@Indycityc
@Indycityc 9 ай бұрын
@@HahaHaha-km4smyou don’t know ball! Goodwin, okogie, and booker, will all play defense
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@Indycityc Booker is a liability. Okogie too small to guard bigger opponents & Goodwin too small too. Ur overrating those 2 guys and you saw what happened in the first half when the Lakers exposed ur weak defense by getting to the paint at will and getting to the FT line bc of no rim protection by Phoenix
@zanderhenderson4561
@zanderhenderson4561 9 ай бұрын
Healthy clippers and Celtic could for the most part
@Mike348749
@Mike348749 9 ай бұрын
As a Laker fan it sucks I have to go to the Bill Simmons Poscast for real basketball takes, but these guys are the best. Especially Russillo. Most knowledgeable basketball guy there is.
@nicolasstaudt5714
@nicolasstaudt5714 9 ай бұрын
Clips hit the over.
@darlingtonatuba5910
@darlingtonatuba5910 9 ай бұрын
It's so interesting that Russillo is that into Booker. There's multiple instances of Booker not stepping up as a true #1 and Durant isn't capable of carrying a team for extended periods of time anymore
@EshockT
@EshockT 9 ай бұрын
Chortling about Year 3 Kuminga? Huh? He’s the best athlete in the NBA.
@TheDifferenceCHI
@TheDifferenceCHI 9 ай бұрын
Why is magic back poked out like that? 🤔😅
@shorafarahani
@shorafarahani 9 ай бұрын
I just want to put this here for timekeeping Barring major injuries to Curry or Wiggins, Warriors are going to western finals Love the chemistry of that team. Other than the main guys (I am actually the most worried about Klay. He's been alittle out of it) Kuminga looks really good, Moody is next Iggy, Saric is vastly underrated, full season/healthy GP2, the 2 rookies look solid. I could care less about Corey Joseph... I hope Rudy Gay is 60% of what he was
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
Rudy Gay is not 60% of what he used to be. Draymond isn't who he used to be. CP is definitely not who he used to be. Klay is not either. But you can totally make me eat crow if I'm wrong!
@shorafarahani
@shorafarahani 9 ай бұрын
@David-iv6je I didnt hang anything on CP nor Dray already :-) hence my point on wiggins and Steph only mattering in terms of injury. Gay is no.15th player anyway. They just need him in Haslem role Id see you in 8 months
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 9 ай бұрын
@@shorafarahani Happy to be wrong on this! 😁👍
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
GS not going to the west finals, they’re never gonna beat the Lakers in a playoff setting. They don’t matchup w them at all. No size, too small, no depth, no defense, they still foul too much and they give up the most FT’s
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 2 ай бұрын
Just for timekeeping: Curry and Wiggy were healthy and the Dubs finished 10th and missed the playoffs.
@basketballgodz7027
@basketballgodz7027 9 ай бұрын
Kevin Durant had a Achilles tendon injury y’all act like he’s just 26 again tf plus this year will be his year
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 9 ай бұрын
It's not just beal that was added on offense. The bench now has Gordon, yuta, and Grayson. All three of those players are better than what was coming off the bench as the 6th man for the suns ladt year While beal isn't a great defender he's much better than 38/39 year cp3 just from a conditioning standpoint. Basically the suns improved from 3-8 with the exception of Nurkic. I totally understand the Nurkic worry. He's just too unathletic for guys like AD, Giannis, and Embid. The suns might be able to avoid those guys if Boston makes the finals and if someone takes out the Lakers before meeting the suns. But i think the offense and bench will be good enough to win rhe chip.
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
No depth & no defense tho. That’s what you need to win championships. Phoenix has nothing of that. Lakers have the advantage over Phoenix bc of it and Denver has the advantage as well
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 9 ай бұрын
@@LeGoatJames111 that no bench and no defense beat you by 20 just a night ago. Without two of their best 3 players. Good luck
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@Christopher._M first half lakers regulars outplayed Phoenix w no defense. Imagine if Book & Beal were in there, it woulda been a lot worse cuz the Lakers woulda had 60-70 plus in the half that’s how trash Beal & book are on defense. Second half was all third stringers/summer league team. Be ready for the Lakers to mollywop them by 20 2nd game of the season bc of their defense and depth. Again you need those 2 to win championships and Phoenix has none of it
@enricomiguelrequilman6000
@enricomiguelrequilman6000 9 ай бұрын
Don't forget Jordan Goodwin, 3&D guy that can handle the ball and has a high motor
@proximoAZ
@proximoAZ 9 ай бұрын
Take on phoenix is ridiculous. We are quite deep. If each of the 3 play just 60 games we will win 60+ games. Best suns team ever in my opinion.
@shnoo8900
@shnoo8900 9 ай бұрын
Who tf is your 6th man?? Lol
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 9 ай бұрын
We…lmao, shut TF up. Way too emotional to have any objectivity.
@proximoAZ
@proximoAZ 9 ай бұрын
@@shnoo8900Eric Gordon.
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@proximoAZ lmao he’s washed. Good luck beating the Lakers and other teams w depth in the west this year
@enricomiguelrequilman6000
@enricomiguelrequilman6000 9 ай бұрын
​@@LeGoatJames111did you watch the preseason game between the Suns and Lakers yesterday? No Booker and Beal, + Suns bench trashed the Lakers bench
@_Blonca
@_Blonca 9 ай бұрын
*I like Golden States chances*
@ABasedTohan
@ABasedTohan 9 ай бұрын
Warriors are live with that bench unit, they get a big and it’s pretty much makes them the favorite
@Bossanovawitcha
@Bossanovawitcha 9 ай бұрын
to make the play in
@mattwhitely1067
@mattwhitely1067 9 ай бұрын
​@@ABasedTohanfavourite umm Denver
@Teebagzzz
@Teebagzzz 9 ай бұрын
​@@mattwhitely1067no way man they lost some key role players
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
@@mattwhitely1067 Lakers. They got better while everyone else in the division got worse
@HitManHerbert13
@HitManHerbert13 9 ай бұрын
I used to be really high on Nurkic. But he has just been nowhere near what he was before that horrific leg injury.
@Realmknjeeze
@Realmknjeeze 9 ай бұрын
Wtf is up with magics pic behind Bill lol
@joeg2258
@joeg2258 9 ай бұрын
When I used to cover the Clippers when I lived in LA......
@Steeezzzzz
@Steeezzzzz 9 ай бұрын
*complain about players moving* *constantly debates on whos next to move* Which one is it. The media preys on whos next to get traded and complain about it. Pick one.
@NatureWar1
@NatureWar1 9 ай бұрын
WHY DOES EVERY YEAR START OUT EVERYONE TRASHING THE SUNS. WERE IN PLAYOFFS ALMOST EVERY YEAR.
@Josh86_925
@Josh86_925 9 ай бұрын
So many are overlooking the Warriors, and I love it. This Warriors team is deep AF, especially if the young guys like Kuminga keep getting better. They also still got a roster spot to fill after cutting Rudy Gay. I'm hearing Dwight Howard isn't off the table.
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 9 ай бұрын
Every year at gsw he played over 60 games. Every since then he had Achilles injury then freak accidents not actually injuries lol so yes he can play over 60 you don’t supposed to be prepared for someone to fall on your leg or your teammate bumping his head into your knee. Nor you working out and you tweak your ankle. That’s unfortunate but kd had a Achilles and foot injury that’s it
@TheWatcher1009
@TheWatcher1009 9 ай бұрын
Lol'd at the Nurkic take I get it he's cheaper lol but better hope he's ready by playoffs
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 9 ай бұрын
Suns will finish well ahead of old ass LeBron and broken down AD lol
@Coachmike_seney
@Coachmike_seney 9 ай бұрын
You mean Monty Williams highest paid coach in the league.. I cried😂😂
@ssholla92
@ssholla92 9 ай бұрын
Simmons has jumped the shark.
@shmadeshlimore3322
@shmadeshlimore3322 9 ай бұрын
I was understanding about the Suns takes until I heard all that nonsense about the Lakers. I don’t know why all of a sudden we should pretend AD is any more durable than Zion I mean what is going on here
@EshockT
@EshockT 9 ай бұрын
I like Joe’s shirt but it is a thing to wear cuffs unbuttoned? Did he forget to roll them up? Would annoy me.
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 9 ай бұрын
Ishbia is building a $100m practice facility for wnba players making less than UPS drivers, he might be trying to generate red ink on purpose.
@Vic_8a
@Vic_8a 9 ай бұрын
Notice how they never talked about the Suns bench and how deep it is!! The Suns are so deep every NBA team is going to feel it in their trough!
@Teebagzzz
@Teebagzzz 9 ай бұрын
You're bugging. The whole bench is vet minimums
@chadingram6390
@chadingram6390 9 ай бұрын
They had no problem taking on the lakers @@Teebagzzz
@SouthSide41209
@SouthSide41209 9 ай бұрын
@@Teebagzzzthat just makes it better lmao
@enricomiguelrequilman6000
@enricomiguelrequilman6000 9 ай бұрын
​@@Teebagzzztell me you're a casual without telling me you're a casual
@tashied422
@tashied422 9 ай бұрын
​@@Teebagzzz To assume because they have vet minimum contracts, that they must not be good players is ridiculous. Cause thats basically what you're saying. Some of those players passed up on better paying contracts from other teams to play for the Suns. Im now realizing that most people who have negative views on the Suns have no clue who the bench players on that team is.
@frbs2255
@frbs2255 9 ай бұрын
Beal = Landry Shamet. smh
@troymackey9588
@troymackey9588 9 ай бұрын
1. Turn off injuries, KD. However, there are injuries so Steph. 2. Luka. I am also Tatum over Booker. I understand your reasons, but my ceiling is higher on Tatum. 3. Luka. 4. AD but, I trust Embiid to be on the court longer. It is close & preference. 5. Wagner. Mobley is an old school 4. Franz is a modern wing. Garnett turned into a 2. He did so because his body stopped him being continuing offensively. Most players have to choose 1 elite end. 6. Murray, but I am not sure what is the Jokic factor. 7. Pass. Both are killing a franchise.
@nilshausmann473
@nilshausmann473 9 ай бұрын
taking the under on 52 wins for the Suns is absolutely absurd
@misinfluence
@misinfluence 9 ай бұрын
why? beal and KD play less than Lebron does.
@nilshausmann473
@nilshausmann473 9 ай бұрын
@@misinfluence and yet when is the last time the lakers finished better than the Suns? oops Suns were pushing 70 wins a year ago, pretty absurd to think a team with Booker, Beal, Durant and good depth is losing 30 plus games.
@fredbarnes196
@fredbarnes196 9 ай бұрын
Lakers won’t get injured, The suns will. Simmons being Simmons and discounting Phoenix, again. Suns just schooled the lakers without Booker and Beal….. with great defense. These guys are a hoot.
@nupoloo8550
@nupoloo8550 9 ай бұрын
Preseason game
@fredbarnes196
@fredbarnes196 9 ай бұрын
@@nupoloo8550 AD is glass, can't deny that.
@nupoloo8550
@nupoloo8550 9 ай бұрын
@@fredbarnes196 true
@Theinsideoutsider
@Theinsideoutsider 9 ай бұрын
Nurkic is for laxk of a better term "not good"
@ki2726
@ki2726 9 ай бұрын
Neither is Ayton and he’s more expensive
@Theinsideoutsider
@Theinsideoutsider 9 ай бұрын
@@ki2726 bro you cant compare atton to nurkic.. ayton is 10x better.. younger... More skilled.. better defender.. theres a reason he has better averages and is being paid more
@emanuelcorreia4228
@emanuelcorreia4228 9 ай бұрын
Obviously, you guys above don't like the Suns very much, do you? Because you're not talking objectively here at all...the Suns just gave the Lakers a beaten the other night where the Suns bench OUTPLAYED the Lakers starters for most of the game, Booker and Beal didn't even play.... LOL....but you're sitting here talking about KD's injury over the years, instead of focusing on this current Suns roster which is one of THE best rosters if not THE best in the league currently. You're talking about the Suns like they're the worst team in the league??? Are they?? Nurkic is better than Ayton and secondly the Suns acquired Nurkic for FIT purposes, the Suns did not acquire Nurkic so he can jump from the free throw line and dunk the ball like Michael Jordan did...lol...do you get where am going with this??? Nurkic offers IQ and a post presence not seen in the Suns uniform for years...instead we Suns fans have had to deal with a SOFT Ayton, low IQ Ayton! You guys above, please get your facts straight before you talk about the Suns at all...
@haberzach1
@haberzach1 9 ай бұрын
Not to gas the Dubs, but they also have a healthy Payton all year
@alonsoperez3547
@alonsoperez3547 9 ай бұрын
phx top 10 def
@JD-ck6vg
@JD-ck6vg 9 ай бұрын
"I like Plumlee against Jokic" Russillo please be real
@krugonitro
@krugonitro 9 ай бұрын
you guys haven’t kept up with our depth
@silewis9396
@silewis9396 9 ай бұрын
Our? How the hell is anyone supposed to know who that means
@krugonitro
@krugonitro 9 ай бұрын
@@silewis9396 who is the video about?
@ayooot5850
@ayooot5850 9 ай бұрын
If you hate on Kd u shouldn’t cover em cus clearly mfs bias
@joseledezedma1014
@joseledezedma1014 9 ай бұрын
Suns are better than the lakers and nuggets.Three guys that have averaged thirty hasn’t been done
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
No they’re not nigga foh. Phoenix couldn’t beat denver and didn’t even get to the Lakers, how are they better? They’re at best 4th in the west. Top 3 are the Lakers, Nuggets & Grizzlies
@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS
@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS 9 ай бұрын
They won't each average 30. Tatum/Brown/Porzingiz will average more total pts and play better d.
@hoppy23
@hoppy23 9 ай бұрын
Never been done and it won't be done... if we go off past seasons it's been done many times but let's think it's more likely that none of the 3 will average 30 ppg this year then all 3 do it
@joseledezedma1014
@joseledezedma1014 9 ай бұрын
@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS I said have like previously
@joseledezedma1014
@joseledezedma1014 9 ай бұрын
@@hoppy23 I said averaged as in past tense
@tadejpeckaj1151
@tadejpeckaj1151 9 ай бұрын
Shitting over Suns.. music to my ears 😂
@Cinnamon015
@Cinnamon015 9 ай бұрын
look at these old timers giving their basketball opinions. i love it
@nexus8339
@nexus8339 9 ай бұрын
6:33 this is the funniest most absurd thing I heard in this podcast. Comparing Beal with Shamet and their skillsets would now make a difference in the Denver Series. Remember, Shamet one us one game where he scored 19points. Imagine Beal doing more of that CONSISTENTLY. THINK ABOUT THAT BILL. TBF I don't disagree with the Under prediction because Playoffs are more important for this team.
@adamsmith9080
@adamsmith9080 9 ай бұрын
agreed. they went to 6 with shamet. if they had beal, imagine the damage the thermonuclear booker could’ve done. nuggets wins weren’t even really convincing in that series other than the close out. the suns were still right there KNOWING they couldn’t win because their starting lineup had payne shamet and landale
@bdbd1390
@bdbd1390 9 ай бұрын
Damn, they really have the team who won the division last year. So low!
@EBizz85
@EBizz85 9 ай бұрын
Media pissed they did good and always discredit how good they were by blaming injuries on other teams
@Bossanovawitcha
@Bossanovawitcha 9 ай бұрын
Beal and Goodwin.. Goodwin is young Marcus Smart
@detnibul9361
@detnibul9361 9 ай бұрын
You're 100%. Goodwin IS a younger Marcus Smart minus the flopping
@mathewban
@mathewban 9 ай бұрын
Suns have the 3 of the most efficient players in the league. These guys are going to be dangerous. We have players that play D. Suns have one of the best benches in the league. Ppl better hope they all have a bad game
@andersonwilliams9774
@andersonwilliams9774 9 ай бұрын
All you keep hearing these guys say is who playing LeBron or Tatum so my question is who sticking kd booker or beal
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 2 ай бұрын
The TWolves will stick all of them in a first round Sweep by an average cakewalk score of 118- 103.
@scottipippen6554
@scottipippen6554 9 ай бұрын
"Beal is not afraid of missing some games.."- made my day, lol. Misic and Vezenkov can play, guys. To compare them with Campazzo, is just disrespectful. Euroleague MVPs are good, really good. Some lack a little bit defense ability like Vezenkov, but i can name several NBA "stars" who do aswell. Misic is an overall player like Luka, can do it all. Not on the same level, but if he gets minutes with OKC, he will produce and guide the young team.. I don`t get in general, how Euroleague MVPs are not taken serious. Toni Kukoc was a 2time MVP, was a potential franchise player, if he would have got his own team in his prime. Petrovic the same. Why Portland drafted him in the first place and keept him for several years to warm the bank, is beyond me. We saw what he can do with the Nets, unfortunateley he was taken way to early from us. And how many doubted Luka a few years ago, is still comical to me. He dominated Europe being 18/19 years old. To think that he could not produce in the NBA, was simply hilarious. If guys would have driven over and actually watched him play for more than 2 minutes live with Real or SLovenia, not one single sane GM should have passed on him. Let alone the Suns, having the no.1 draft..
@magnuslinde9543
@magnuslinde9543 9 ай бұрын
Magic Johnson looks pregnant.
@cousinwil5808
@cousinwil5808 9 ай бұрын
Lakers are gonna be the 6 seed at best. Mr Glass and LeGrandpa probably aren’t playing 50 games together, Rui has played 3 good basketball games ever, Reeves is Jeremy Lin 2.0, Russel… really? Gee, how did you land Wood on a minimum contract? Oh, because no one wanted him? Nice!
@brennansnyder476
@brennansnyder476 9 ай бұрын
Haters gunna hate
@sloanNYC
@sloanNYC 9 ай бұрын
Lakers, I don't trust LeBron and AD to stay healthy... but they certainly have a lot of pieces that can fill in that can score.
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
AD playing 65 plus this year guaranteed
@Johnny_Zoom
@Johnny_Zoom 9 ай бұрын
The Kings are winning over 50 this year stop it.
@qthe6thman
@qthe6thman 9 ай бұрын
KD will be out for 2 months by December. Bradley Beal will get frustrated with shot selection. Booker will have a solo MVP run and flame out by playoffs.
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 2 ай бұрын
Sean Hayes doesn't follow sports and he didn't know who the Smartless guest was going to be. And even to this day, he still probably doesn't understand who Bill Simmons is.
@km13watch
@km13watch 9 ай бұрын
Kings say hi
@LeGoatJames111
@LeGoatJames111 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not gonna be better than the Lakers
@EBizz85
@EBizz85 9 ай бұрын
Don't listen to the media... nothing but hate no matter what
@picothatguy-o
@picothatguy-o 9 ай бұрын
I think Lebron is hoping for an NBA Championship/Olympics gold medal double whammy to retire on. How do you one up a retirement farewell season? Make it global
@michaellockhart6632
@michaellockhart6632 9 ай бұрын
The Suns are lacking defense. They don't have Crowder, they don't have Bridges, they don't have a point guard, their center sucks, they are not a good regular season team. Phoenix had all that and dominated in 22' with 64 freaking regular season wins... and then games 6 and 7 against Dallas. Phoenix is built for the playoffs, period. How can these guys gloss over Lebron's age and availability but make dire predictions for KD and his age. It's the same ageism that Suns fans heard the entire time CP3 was there, yet Chris Paul led them to the finals. I really wish that he didn't pull his groin game 1 against Denver because it would have been a different story if he and Ayton stuck around for the rest of that series. Maybe let's see if Denver has title hangover and fall well shy of a repeat because that is common in the NBA, and repeats are much more rare to see.
@Kermit_T_Frog
@Kermit_T_Frog 9 ай бұрын
Nurkic "sucks"? I doubt if there is another center in the league that can compete with him in rebounds, blocked shots, and assists. Scoring, well that's mediocre, at best. Not sure how to measure his worth on defense. Bad defensive rating. OK plus/minus. I'm guessing that this is regarding to his play in the last few seasons. Still, he's only 29 years old.
@mavssami41
@mavssami41 9 ай бұрын
In the modern nba ...he's useless
@Kermit_T_Frog
@Kermit_T_Frog 9 ай бұрын
@@mavssami41 Unlike Ayton, he seems to have developed a 3 pt shot. He is a better passer. He even has slightly better rebounding numbers. About the same number of blocks. I think Ayton is better, but all I see in him is a traditional center. And not an especially good one.
@PeteMD
@PeteMD 9 ай бұрын
Warriors roster is as good as it has ever been wout KD/Igoudala super team years. It’s just the stars aren’t at peak power anymore outside of Curry. But… Curry, CP3, GPII, Moody Klay, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray, Looney, Saric That is loaded. Obviously a rim running big even in the JaVale mold is what everyone is thinking they need. Maybe they get one in season. But other than that the roster is missing nothing.
@NatureWar1
@NatureWar1 9 ай бұрын
If Nurkik is trash.... his numbers are already better than Aton.
@christianakaneyap180
@christianakaneyap180 9 ай бұрын
BILL SIMMONS ALWAYS HAS TO COMPARE ANYTHING TO THE CELTICS. LAST YEAR HE LOVES MARCUS SMART, NOW HE IS CHOPPED LIVER. THAT BEING SAID I STILL LIKE BILL SIMMONS, ITS JUST TOO MUCH CELTICS SHIT. THATS WHY I LIKE RUSSILO WITH HIM. HE EVENS HIM OUT.
@gilbertarballo
@gilbertarballo 6 ай бұрын
That Lakers will bully the f out of them take aged well 🤡
@17NateJohnson
@17NateJohnson 9 ай бұрын
Lebron is overrated now. He’s still high IQ, but his post-sweep tantrum was a direct result of realizing he wasn’t the best player in the series by a long way.
@lucaslafontaine1
@lucaslafontaine1 9 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed by this group of dudes clearly you guys are one sided it's quite obvious 😂
@patmurphy8622
@patmurphy8622 9 ай бұрын
Yerrrrrrr
@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS
@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS 9 ай бұрын
The suns offense is nothing compared to boston's.
@andysauro1500
@andysauro1500 9 ай бұрын
Sacramento will be the #1 seed in the Western Conference. Warriors will win the Western conference. Screen cap this.
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 2 ай бұрын
I screencapped it. Both the Kings and Warriors missed the playoffs, so you were horribly wrong.
@basketballgodz7027
@basketballgodz7027 9 ай бұрын
Kd went 20-1 with Brooklyn sooo… I’m lost on this one this is a new year and Kd is still in his prime
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 9 ай бұрын
Lol facts that man is always top 3 in mvp voting the last 2 seasons until somebody runs into leg last year it was jimmy butler then tear b4 Bruce brown
@jdankerdake
@jdankerdake 9 ай бұрын
Finally, a reasonable assessment of Phoenix.
@ayooot5850
@ayooot5850 9 ай бұрын
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