Doc Rivers on What Went Wrong With the Sixers | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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Bill Simmons

Жыл бұрын

Bill Simmons is joined by former Sixers head coach Doc Rivers to discuss what Joel Embiid needs to do to take the next step in his career, how it ended with the Sixers against the Celtics, and whether James Harden’s playoff reputation is unfairly earned or not.
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@HipHopSince784
@HipHopSince784 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day when these two have a civil conversation
@grahamjl766
@grahamjl766 Жыл бұрын
We honestly need more of this. The culture of if you're not with me, you're against me or everyone's an opp really needs to stop. Two people with different outlooks can have a civil conversation.
@WycoTL
@WycoTL Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Bill employ two of his kids? Doc at a disadvantage lol
@lukechiarieri3269
@lukechiarieri3269 Жыл бұрын
Just rewatched the secret base beef video of them today 🤣
@HipHopSince784
@HipHopSince784 Жыл бұрын
@@grahamjl766 1000% agree
@blackcat4859
@blackcat4859 Жыл бұрын
​@@lukechiarieri3269 what was their beef? Or do you have a link to that video?
@fudgets1
@fudgets1 Жыл бұрын
Doc Story: A few years ago (18-19 season) I was in college covering a Clippers game for my sports journalism class and after the game we got to go to Doc’s postgame press conference. Doc knew our class was there and called us out and asked that the mic be passed down to our row. Somehow, the mic ended up with me. I was nervous as hell but I asked him a question about the teams performance versus outside expectation and he gave me a very thoughtful and detailed response and thanked me for the question. It was a small gesture but it meant a lot to me. You can say a lot about Doc as a coach but I will always think highly of him as a person.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
That just tells me he knows how to play the game....which is the criticism that follows him today
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 Жыл бұрын
@@exitscreaming4637 So him being somewhat nice to a person and giving a detailed answer to a question means he knows basketball? What an odd criteria. The man played in the NBA for several seasons and has coached several teams. Clearly he should know the game. But none of that means he isn't a bad coach. Which he is. He only won with a loaded Celtics team. That team should've won more actually. Doc is terrible when it comes to making adjustments. Fans have watched it for years now and players who've played for Doc have said he makes no adjustments during games.
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname Жыл бұрын
Doc Rivers has the gift of empathy. He just knows what life feels like from the other guys shoes. Hes a good man.
@kencarthen1642
@kencarthen1642 Жыл бұрын
​@@exitscreaming4637how is knowing how to play the game a criticism??
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
@@kencarthen1642 I was referring to the PR game , not the game of basketball . He's a good talker. I probably should have worded it differently
@connortaylor4538
@connortaylor4538 Жыл бұрын
Docs agent had to call him up and say “Doc you got an interview with a William Simmons” only way this conversation happened
@Rickon2506
@Rickon2506 Жыл бұрын
Both his son & daughter have a pod with Ringer, I believe.
@nicholaspu
@nicholaspu Жыл бұрын
Simónnės
@brandonwhite4992
@brandonwhite4992 Жыл бұрын
I bet you they have hashed it out behind the scenes. His son and daughter work there.
@tajmula671
@tajmula671 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Ruatsanga13
@Ruatsanga13 Жыл бұрын
What happened? Please tell the backstory if there is any?
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt Жыл бұрын
Salute to Doc and Bill for doing this podcast despite their history.
@tonious35
@tonious35 Жыл бұрын
Ya'll know Bill is just throwing bait out there for Doc to bite on and Doc is eating the boat right now, Doc is biting at everything
@ipsun1632
@ipsun1632 Жыл бұрын
What's their beef?
@adrianfreeman2041
@adrianfreeman2041 Жыл бұрын
​@@ipsun1632Bill was a harsh critic in the Media when Doc coached the Celtics.
@lilpenny1982
@lilpenny1982 Жыл бұрын
True
@ineedsaltplease620
@ineedsaltplease620 Жыл бұрын
@tonious35 lol you can see in bill's face 'I just got him to insult the Orlando team again'
@Dspeaker1
@Dspeaker1 Жыл бұрын
I haven't listened to a ton of Doc interviews, but I didn't expect him to be this honest. I'm gonna go listen to the whole podcast now
@digontozahid
@digontozahid Жыл бұрын
He got fired he got nothing to lose
@turner4243
@turner4243 Жыл бұрын
Kinda feel like he's not really looking for a new job. Feels more like he is in the media stage of his career again but idk he may try to coach again.
@seanknapp1
@seanknapp1 Жыл бұрын
He always says everything. he's been talking about that orlando team for years
@scandelez
@scandelez Жыл бұрын
No reason to lie now lol. Nobody’s feelings to protect.
@ChuckwaldMartin
@ChuckwaldMartin Жыл бұрын
@@turner4243 Depends on the money and how much he misses it, if he does come back I'd expect him to be better garnishing new perspective. He's had the luxury of bouncing around the top jobs he needs a little bit of a reality check i suppose.
@mhop9775
@mhop9775 Жыл бұрын
Was not expecting this interview
@sdaoud31
@sdaoud31 Жыл бұрын
Me neither, Simmons doesn’t hesitate criticizing Doc.
@Mikegaryhouse
@Mikegaryhouse Жыл бұрын
I’m sure I’ve recently watched a Beef History between these two! Clearly the beef has been cooked and eaten!
@hotlineblingisagoodsong
@hotlineblingisagoodsong Жыл бұрын
They don't call him the pod father for nothing
@misterputscalls5902
@misterputscalls5902 Жыл бұрын
@@Mikegaryhouse I think the 'beef history'' as mostly for the clicks. It's overblown conspiracy crap.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
You weren't expecting Doc to blame the players who just got him fired ? Bwahahaha
@kevinc8955
@kevinc8955 Жыл бұрын
Embiid has the same problem Tatum has. A) takes too long to make his move when he gets the ball allowing the defense to set against him and B) not recognizing before his move where the helps coming from. Inversely it’s why Jokic is so dominant. He does both well.
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that they both have the same exact trainer. I agree tho.
@onomatopoeia5540
@onomatopoeia5540 Жыл бұрын
Both are horrible decision makers. Something hard to learn if someone just focuses on shooting and dribbling on off season😂😂😂
@MosheXX
@MosheXX Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@Phat-rj3jo
@Phat-rj3jo Жыл бұрын
Joel is a bad passer, and while I think it can be improved with good coaching, what Jokic does is innate, he just have a natural feel for it.
@Phat-rj3jo
@Phat-rj3jo Жыл бұрын
@@Byronic19134 cuz that trainer specializes in teaching players on how to score.
@zo7761
@zo7761 Жыл бұрын
Most unexpected collab of all time
@apng8879
@apng8879 Жыл бұрын
Nope.... kg and Joakim Noah just had one recently..lol its close
@blackcat4859
@blackcat4859 Жыл бұрын
I listen to Simmons and he's been critical of Doc but that can't be the reason for this being unexpected. What is the reason?
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
lol not really Doc needed to blame his players for their loss and Bill was willing to listen
@jorgeorozco5417
@jorgeorozco5417 Жыл бұрын
Doc Rivers needs to get back on TV. He's brilliant on tv.
@reasedogable
@reasedogable Жыл бұрын
He is now
@Crazyjedi2
@Crazyjedi2 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this I can see how Doc keeps getting jobs coaching in the NBA. He's really easy to talk to.
@jonjaime
@jonjaime Жыл бұрын
He should be a tv analyst then.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
Yepp he can BS with the best
@carltonrudolph
@carltonrudolph Жыл бұрын
And i can sew how he keeps getting fired
@kylek1742
@kylek1742 Жыл бұрын
No one is better at passing off blame than Doc Rivers
@joshtutor5606
@joshtutor5606 Жыл бұрын
His ego has always been bigger than his talent...You want a real opinion on Doc, listen to Michael Lombardi's podcast, GM shuffle...Lombardi sees through Doc's BS.
@jlui21
@jlui21 Жыл бұрын
@@joshtutor5606 --- Doc is a good regular season coach. In the playoffs? Different story. he hasn't made it past the 2nd rd since his Bos days in 2012. That's a 11 year drought (and he had CP3-Blake-then MVP Joel-Harden).
@blackcloak67
@blackcloak67 Жыл бұрын
“It’s not Blake’s fault. It’s not Blake’s fault”
@elzrobinson3307
@elzrobinson3307 Жыл бұрын
@@jlui21 ya'll just say stupid shit lol.
@Steventsang113
@Steventsang113 Жыл бұрын
@@jlui21don’t forget he also had kawhi who just had got fmvp last year and pg13 who had been top 3 mvp last year with okc and 2 sixeth men but choke in the second round 😂
@jacksonmathews9178
@jacksonmathews9178 Жыл бұрын
Doc Rivers is such a great interview. It's kind of baffling how open and transparent he is.
@lv20213
@lv20213 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps that’s his secret to securing coaching jobs and being a coach players rave about and want to play for. He knows how to talk to them. He’s real.
@jacksonmathews9178
@jacksonmathews9178 Жыл бұрын
@@lv20213 good point. he speaks openly about players without it coming off as disrespectful.
@MacNif
@MacNif Жыл бұрын
He's so open because he blew FOUR 3-1 Leads He has no choice
@irvbarkley
@irvbarkley Жыл бұрын
Dock is definitely baffling
@misinfluence
@misinfluence Жыл бұрын
Is also baffling how he doesn’t take any blame for losing because of lack of strategic adjustments
@cosmoakapiur1
@cosmoakapiur1 Жыл бұрын
Great to see they have squashed the old beef, great pod!
@markirving2238
@markirving2238 Жыл бұрын
What old beef I’m lost
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 Жыл бұрын
Markirving22 Bill Simmons would often criticize Doc as a coach but Doc felt a way about it. But they seem to resolve their issue
@markirving2238
@markirving2238 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonycelestin3559 oh ok
@nicholaschristodoulou3821
@nicholaschristodoulou3821 Жыл бұрын
Search Secret Base Bill Simmons Doc. They have a great and entertaining on their historic beef
@spoogtastic
@spoogtastic Жыл бұрын
Joel was more concerned with making sure he campaigned for his mvp than he was with winning the title. It was very clear the mvp was the single most important thing to him this year.
@mxhughes
@mxhughes Жыл бұрын
Facts he not upset that all his contemporaries in his age group (giannis,tatum,jaylen,booker,siakim,adebayo,now jokic) have made the finals n some even won a championship meanwhile he's still struggling reaching the conference finals.Dude needs to get his priorities straight
@andywalken6838
@andywalken6838 Жыл бұрын
You want this guy to cry every time he loses
@kaysheye7784
@kaysheye7784 Жыл бұрын
@@andywalken6838 LMAOO that's how he became a meme in the first place
@chasingfelix3609
@chasingfelix3609 Жыл бұрын
So what?
@WalterModel45
@WalterModel45 Жыл бұрын
But he always has been like that. Is an egocentric and childlesh superstar
@rupertpupkin2660
@rupertpupkin2660 Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see Doc's honest take on this year's 76ers team without totally going PR on us like he did in those Press Conferences. From what I gathered it looks like Joel needs to have a better relationship with his teammates. Not saying he's a selfish player however he's too lowkey and not outgoing enough in the locker room. This has always been a problem with Embiid it seems which is why guys like Tobias had to take on that role when in reality the BEST player needs to be that leader.
@MrLathor
@MrLathor Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for Joel, it seems like his body just isn’t built for a full regular season and playoffs. He is such a massive dude who plays pretty physically demanding basketball and it takes a toll. Jokic’s style allows him to be effective in the regular season and then go completely nuclear in the playoffs.
@torpedospurs
@torpedospurs Жыл бұрын
I almost think he should just play more bully ball. Doing all these step backs, crossovers, etc can't be great for his legs. Back guys up in the post and shoot the jump hook!
@jackzeldon2883
@jackzeldon2883 Жыл бұрын
Phila has surrounded Embiid w/ slop he's got to kill himself at both ends every game..... man has the #5 career scoring Avg in NBA history & Dominates on Defense & contrary to these narratives Embiid's playoff & Reg seasons stats are identical 27 pts 11 reb 3 ast vs 25 pts 11 reb 3 ast (look it up) & his Free Throw attempts are the same too 10.4 vs 9.9 in the playoffs..... Phila's problem is they are one of the worst run organizations in the NBA under their current ownership..... but you Never hear that b/c NBA media & protects Ownership & Management at All costs...... I have a lot of respect for Doc but I expected him to Savage Morey & Phila's owner Wall St Crook Josh Harris - but he aint gonna bite the hand that feeds him b/c he'll never get another job if he does
@dzigizord6567
@dzigizord6567 Жыл бұрын
@@jackzeldon2883 man, Embiid just played very bad in clutch moments in playoffs, like very bad, both def and offense. And as for the offence in some games he was shying away from taking responsibility and making actions himself and he should be a no1 star, just bad.
@goldmo2427
@goldmo2427 Жыл бұрын
@@jackzeldon2883he’s had great teams since 2017 give me a break
@truthonly-
@truthonly- Жыл бұрын
Completely nuclear? He's been in the playoffs before he won a championship and we didn't see nuclear
@sixtentore8655
@sixtentore8655 Жыл бұрын
In that Houston game with Joe Smith and Corey Brewer making good shots, the game changer was actually 38 year old Pablo Prigioni. He came in, got a couple of steals off inbound passes, brought in his experience and calm demeanour and had the best +/- of the game. He was so good that Doc brought him to the Clips the following year, following his tradition of "I'll hire the guy that beat me"
@lottoguy6457
@lottoguy6457 Жыл бұрын
Doc knows a lot about what went wrong with teams. He’s done it over and over.
@KDRusha
@KDRusha Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent a little time around the Sixers and I can tell you with certainty that the “spend time with your teammates off the court and show them that you love them” was an issue. The team seems so separated from James and Embiid when it comes to events and that’s if Embiid and Harden show up at all.
@noordeenaltammimi6416
@noordeenaltammimi6416 Жыл бұрын
This is like if skip hosted lebron after a final loss and was supportive lol
@ky6632
@ky6632 Жыл бұрын
NAH..... that would be historic in the media. This is good to see. That would be a seismic shift!
@zjz19900621
@zjz19900621 Жыл бұрын
​@@ky6632 Bill was that guy in NBA media during the Doc beef.
@noordeenaltammimi6416
@noordeenaltammimi6416 Жыл бұрын
@zjz19900621 fr and unlike Bron and skip they went back and forth A lot
@f58534
@f58534 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys talking again
@calebpanopio9070
@calebpanopio9070 Жыл бұрын
Man I could listen to Doc allday. I can see why a lot of people love him
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt Жыл бұрын
He knows hoops and he knows how to explain the game in simple ways. I don’t think he’s a good coach but I still have a lot of respect for him.
@jlui21
@jlui21 Жыл бұрын
@@WorldwideWyatt -- he's a good regular season coach, build culture, etc. But in the playoffs where you need Xs and Os? He hasn't made it past the 2nd round since 2012 w/ Boston.
@elzrobinson3307
@elzrobinson3307 Жыл бұрын
@@WorldwideWyatt his peers think hes a great coach....
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
@@jlui21 regular season winning culture?
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
@@elzrobinson3307 how you know his pairs ain't laughing behind his back? Coaches gonna stick up for coaches especially in the media but doc is known as a choker
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but I fully expect Doc to blame everyone and take zero percent of the blame
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@WalterModel45
@WalterModel45 Жыл бұрын
He does to Embiid what Embiid does to their teamtes 😂 Thats why they fit in Philly
@reBornMiles
@reBornMiles Жыл бұрын
Definitely his fault the MVP and James Harden played like dogshit in game 7.
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
​@@petergianakopoulos4926Who does he blame?
@voiceofreason2771
@voiceofreason2771 Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what he did
@stevegarcia18009
@stevegarcia18009 Жыл бұрын
16:36 I think he's talking about Ben Simmons 😂😂😂. Doc really needs the break
@jamesirvingnba
@jamesirvingnba Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares what he thinks the best fit for the sixers, when he's been the biggest problem of the sixers
@stevegarcia18009
@stevegarcia18009 Жыл бұрын
Fr 😂
@frz_-
@frz_- Жыл бұрын
Cant be since Ben Isnt a Scorer anymore😂😂
@robdoms45123
@robdoms45123 Жыл бұрын
Should have persisted with Ben but supplemented his scoring gap with Maxey. I think Simmons, Maxey and Embiid could have worked. Damage was done first by Daryl trying to trade him 2-4 weeks into his job. Harden went to the nets but created doubt with Ben. It was downhill after that.
@Lootroq
@Lootroq Жыл бұрын
I swear to god, despite his failures, it's impossible to not like this guy. And I could see how someone would feel like maybe he could get it done because of his confidence and composure without arrogance.
@2eezySportsTalk
@2eezySportsTalk Жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of coaches knowing exactly what fans are seeing what's wrong with their team and the coaches are even saying it but the PLAYERS don't listen. Great interview Doc was very candid.
@Sotanath86q
@Sotanath86q Жыл бұрын
Prime example of coaches diverting blame
@insertlastname
@insertlastname Жыл бұрын
He’s been givin how many future hall of famers and only has 1 ring?
@bobbytropo2314
@bobbytropo2314 11 ай бұрын
Say what you will about doc rivers and his coaching ability but you gotta respect how he doesn’t stray away from tough questions.
@juju-vl7oj
@juju-vl7oj Жыл бұрын
How often does Doc take any responsibility for anything? Always blaming circumstances, litterally every team every year has tough circumstances to some degree except maybe the 2017 Warriors who only faced adversity for like the first month or 2 of the season getting adjusted playing together. Sometimes Docs team has a legitimate excuse to not win , but often they lose and are relatively healthy compared to everyone else and have the talent to beat whoever they lost to.
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
Who did he blame? Doc is simply describe his experience from his perspective. He says "we" because that's how leaders talk. He is a top 5 winning coach in NBA history. And here you are blowing a load because he's not beating himself up over Harden and Embiid disappearing in game 7.
@ky6632
@ky6632 Жыл бұрын
​@Vincent Salamatino FACTS..... both those guys have MVPs and they somehow need a coach to get them going in a game 7. You watch the Joker close out the Heat, and there wasn't shit Malone did. He ranchis starters out there... Joker just put everyone on his back down the stretch to close the game.
@ItzzShazey
@ItzzShazey Жыл бұрын
@@ky6632 murray hits shots usually because he is in his prime and gets 25ppg usually. Harden doesnt hit anything sometimes and thats a problem.
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
@@Byronic19134 top 5 in your book, ESPN rank him 15th
@jackzeldon2883
@jackzeldon2883 Жыл бұрын
where did he deflect blame? James HArden is a disaster & Philly gave up 2 - #1 picks for his fat azz - do you realize Jimmy Butler & Harden were born 14 days apart??? Harden plays 10 yrs older..... Philly is a Mess - 6 GM's in 12 yrs under current ownership & each GM been a disaster.... Hiring Nurse was Laughable - 100% Morey CYA move... Embiid need to Demand a trade
@robs257
@robs257 Жыл бұрын
Srsly is this a glitch in the matrix? 🤣 Props to both for making that interview
@joeylewis8615
@joeylewis8615 Жыл бұрын
I was shocked to hear Doc on the podcast, I thought these guys were not on good terms. Glad to see some people can act like adults and have a good, in-depth conversation despite their history.
@johng45746
@johng45746 Жыл бұрын
I like this honest side of Doc. Great interview
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
" Honest side " means blaming his players for losing......ok......lol
@Molson-xg9hs
@Molson-xg9hs Жыл бұрын
Doc doing such an open interview about the job he just lost with a guy who he has had his differences with over the years? Very unexpected, but very refreshing. Good on both of them.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
Bwahahahaha
@24towedbiscuit
@24towedbiscuit Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this interview. The coaching insights and stories were great.
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 Жыл бұрын
Could certainly see why Mat Ishbia thought he was a finalist for the head coaching gig for the Suns before ultimately giving it to Frank Vogel.
@amatya.rakshasa
@amatya.rakshasa Жыл бұрын
Wow these two are friends again? Props to both of them!! This was such a great pod!!
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent Жыл бұрын
​@Apple-ep2vqthey had "beef"
@solephonic
@solephonic Жыл бұрын
this pod and discussion was excellent. it's great hearing doc rivers talk shop.
@thertisan3440
@thertisan3440 Жыл бұрын
Damn....... This is what podcasts are supposed to be about!!!! Great job Bill 🔥🔥🔥
@HomieeeBuzzz
@HomieeeBuzzz Жыл бұрын
Biggest choker in the history of sports. God bless his heart.
@jasonbrown0910
@jasonbrown0910 Жыл бұрын
Rivers low key throwing Harden under the bus. This dude's ego is something else
@JayBrad_TLM
@JayBrad_TLM Жыл бұрын
But he didn’t tell a lie …. James Harden’s style of basketball does not equal post season success.
@Clutchkila1
@Clutchkila1 Жыл бұрын
Doc talks in circles, takes credit for anything he can and blames his players for not stepping up in losses. What a coach!
@veljkocetnik3050
@veljkocetnik3050 Жыл бұрын
we forget how young he is?! hes 29, Lebron won at 27, MJ at 28 and they took some time to mature.. Jokic is 28 and hed probably won before if all the guys werent hurt Embild got only to second round
@Modeek6
@Modeek6 Жыл бұрын
Joel has been coddled and places blame on everyone else when the sixers lose. He only cared for the mvp. He proved that last year and this year. Unpopular opinion, joel painted a target on himself when he and doc threw ben simmons under the bus and blamed him. Now ben is gone and they still haven’t gotten past 2nd round and doc got fired.
@btcs_41
@btcs_41 Жыл бұрын
This was an incredible interview. Doc was really honest and forthcoming, highly recommend listening to the whole Pod.
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
I would've liked Bill to ask him to grade himself as the 76ers head coach, why did you withdraw your name from the Phoenix job, why don't you believe in the development of young players ? Do you think it's a coaching problem losing 10 straight game 7s? Do you think you have a lack of adjustments issues? Why haven't you been able to get out of the 2nd round in over a decade? Questions of that magnitude since he was being so honest
@oliverg8085
@oliverg8085 Жыл бұрын
Great great interview bill. Really good insights. Thank you!
@Bigguccirambo
@Bigguccirambo Жыл бұрын
Woooooooow the interview I’d never thought I’d see
@3411Chad
@3411Chad Жыл бұрын
Remarkable how many commenters on here are looking right past the person who is right near (if not at) the top in being responsible for the failures: Doc Rivers. His finger-pointing in all directions without ONCE taking any responsibility himself is very telling. He's coached three teams with near, future, and current hall of famers all over the place and has one title to show for it; three top 50 all time players were on that team and Rondo might sneak in the hall of fame too. I think the average NBA coach does better with what he's been handed than Doc did.
@fateriddle14
@fateriddle14 Жыл бұрын
In the middle of this amazing podcast, Bill was trying to set Doc up with a set of questions: "What's wrong with Harden in playoffs", "How hard is it to coach Harden", "who's the ideal 3rd guy for 76ers if it's not Harden", he phrase it a bit differently but that's eccentially the guided trap he laid out, and Doc answered those question with sincerety and class, not throwing Harden undered bus. Props to him.
@BlastBeatSz
@BlastBeatSz Жыл бұрын
Bullshit he didn't!
@back2back379
@back2back379 Жыл бұрын
He must've learned his lesson from throwing Ben Simmons under the bus. Also from throwing his Clippers teams under the bus when he said that that cast had no chance to win a Championship.
@kashparty3034
@kashparty3034 Жыл бұрын
I agree Doc love deflecting but I feel like this interview was more revealing about Harden and his inability to evolve his basketball tendencies
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
@@back2back379 doc did not throw Ben under the bus doc was the 1 who said "I don't need Ben to shoot"..."you want me to bench 1 of my best players"? doc babied Ben way too much keeping him in the 4th quarters watching Ben running from the ball
@back2back379
@back2back379 Жыл бұрын
@@rohandunbar2072 right, and then once they were eliminated, he said he doesn’t know the answer to the question as to if they can win with Ben as the starting guard. What do you think that is? I also like how you just ignored the part about the clippers, but that’s cool 👍
@ainnocent
@ainnocent Жыл бұрын
The fact there is an actual youtube video highlighting the beef these two had...to this.. Is actually pretty wild, and I love it! Bury the hatchet.
@davidbardot1
@davidbardot1 Жыл бұрын
Great pod did not expect doc to be so transparent
@andyh4518
@andyh4518 Жыл бұрын
So who's the next improbable guest? LeBron? Isiah Thomas?
@Two-ToneMoonStone
@Two-ToneMoonStone Жыл бұрын
No way Isiah ever happens. I could see LeBron but only after he retires.
@allenmobley8444
@allenmobley8444 Жыл бұрын
Lebron only does interviews with people on his payroll and “yes men”
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop Жыл бұрын
@@allenmobley8444 LeBron hate truly a disease.
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop Жыл бұрын
@@Two-ToneMoonStone no way LeBron ever happens
@Two-ToneMoonStone
@Two-ToneMoonStone Жыл бұрын
@@superdopehiphop I think it's more likely than Isiah. Doc and BS didn't like each other for pretty petty reasons, LeBron's reason to dislike Bill is way less petty and Isiah's is even less petty than that. Plus Isiah has no reason to do this interview.
@JulianBennett73
@JulianBennett73 Жыл бұрын
I guess Doc no longer considers Bill an idiot?
@mdquaglia
@mdquaglia Жыл бұрын
Doc may not be the best coach, but he isn't dumb. He's staying in the public eye enough to stay relevant for his next gig, whether it be TV or coaching.
@heigherheights21
@heigherheights21 Жыл бұрын
How about the team making open shots thats basketball if you don't make shots how can you win 😂😂😂
@Peanutdenver
@Peanutdenver Жыл бұрын
@@mdquaglia Doc's a great reg season coach...he just cant or doesn't feel the need to motivate his players when it gets extra spicy in the playoffs. He also struggles to take responsibility during losses. He needs to take that next step or keep adding L's when up 3-1 in a series.
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
@@Peanutdenver he's incapable of making adjustments, can't stagger starters and bench players minutes, too stubborn, high ego, never takes accountability
@kasuel07
@kasuel07 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview!! Love Doc. Brilliant mind in bball. I'd love to see him pop up on a few sports shows hear and there, maybe announce a few games. Likeable guy!
@sebastianpedone7209
@sebastianpedone7209 Жыл бұрын
Espectacular charla! Muy honesto Doc y muy claro
@mikewatts662
@mikewatts662 Жыл бұрын
Sheesh. Great interview from Doc. Guy is super intelligent. Easy to see how he has stayed employed as a coach for so long.
@noahcrouse9789
@noahcrouse9789 Жыл бұрын
Living off that 2008 titles for YEARS, good riddance doc
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
Clearly Bill was trying not to ruffle doc's feathers
@elzrobinson3307
@elzrobinson3307 Жыл бұрын
@@noahcrouse9789 🤡
@blikketty77
@blikketty77 Жыл бұрын
That's his problem, you listen to the dude on a podcast, and he sounds like a genius both at strategy, analysis, and handling people. But then he coaches a team, and makes mind blowing bad decisions, no adjustments, and then when his team fails, it's clear the stars ain't standing up saying "that's our guy". It's easy to say and do the right thing when the pressure is not on.
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 Жыл бұрын
His teams throw out clunkers in big playoff games consistently. As soon as I saw the Sixers were going to game 7 with Doc I knew it was over.
@edwinfolk8090
@edwinfolk8090 Жыл бұрын
Job of the coach is to raise the level of the players around Embiid. It is not JoJos job. It’s Doc Rivers’
@fanpolposition8375
@fanpolposition8375 Жыл бұрын
I love when guys in the league are honest
@jacksimms2053
@jacksimms2053 Жыл бұрын
This was a great interview bravo
@YvngGoat_
@YvngGoat_ Жыл бұрын
Doc said imma let the clip spray ever since he got fired 😂😂😂😂
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady Жыл бұрын
This is like the basketball equivalent to 2 rappers who had beef joining on a podcast together years after the fact.
@jjmmat133
@jjmmat133 Жыл бұрын
hey bill love the show and great content as always but hopefully for your future vids it will be on HD
@Uhavelowiq
@Uhavelowiq Жыл бұрын
Doc seems like a great coach.
@sammahmood843
@sammahmood843 Жыл бұрын
I always get the sense that Doc never really learns from his disastrous failures in the playoffs. He seems to think it was a few bad plays and poor health.
@coryjohnson7755
@coryjohnson7755 Жыл бұрын
His famous line after the Houston loss about losing due to 'bad luck'.
@lmach00
@lmach00 Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most unexpected talks about basketball ever.
@andrewhunt2429
@andrewhunt2429 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best sports podcast episodes I think I’ve seen. Everyone should watch the full episode
@nickhaser221
@nickhaser221 Жыл бұрын
Props to Doc for doing this interview
@SSJRome
@SSJRome Жыл бұрын
The same thing that went wrong with every other team he’s coached lol
@billyfresh23
@billyfresh23 Жыл бұрын
almost every playoff series over the past 5 years would’ve went differently for the sixers if embiid didn’t play so loose/careless with the ball, didn’t try to foul bait all the time and didn’t settle for jumpers so much. hopefully he figures that out for himself before it’s too late (age and health)
@chrisvillanueva5307
@chrisvillanueva5307 Жыл бұрын
Loved thisss
@TheKnicksRealist
@TheKnicksRealist Жыл бұрын
great conversation
@uncleshit
@uncleshit Жыл бұрын
“I want to call him an idiot but I am too classy for that”
@CreditLiving
@CreditLiving Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Phenomenal
@orlandowilliams6
@orlandowilliams6 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't as bad as I thought based on the sound bites.Nice work. I love how honest doc is.
@jacobanderson2970
@jacobanderson2970 Жыл бұрын
This is Doc's interview for coming back to the Celtics haha
@CommanderNoah99
@CommanderNoah99 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this happened
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt Жыл бұрын
I forgot how great Doc is at media stuff. He hasn’t lost a beat
@lukekylestanley4072
@lukekylestanley4072 Жыл бұрын
"When you sit out at the beginning of your career and don't play that sets a tone." "There were some games I had to say Joel you need to play tonight." -Doc Rivers. Very observational wise words. Never thought about all the players that were injured to the point of not being able to play their first year in the NBA. There is a pattern of not having the same discipline and work-ethic as those that DID play.
@aaronbrown1758
@aaronbrown1758 Жыл бұрын
Is Doc ever self-critical?
@Bonezone84
@Bonezone84 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
No he's just wildy successful in life.
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
Remember "would you ask Pop that question" 🤣😂😅 this guy is something else
@Goodmorningmg
@Goodmorningmg Жыл бұрын
I know it’s a serious step down from where he’s been as a legend in the league, but he would be such an incredible assistant coach in Toronto. You can tell he connects to players on a different level
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
Legend???...what legend are you referring to? There's not a coach alive who couldn't bring that 2010 Boston Celtics team to 3 championships, doc had a super team, won 1 chip, made 2 finals, and hasn't been past the 2nd round since 2012, lost 10 straight game 7s, blew three 3-1 leads, guess you mean legendary choker
@siniister710
@siniister710 Жыл бұрын
when I saw Doc was on I was pleased they must have squashed the beef. Doc would be a great addition to the podfamily
@oliebraz
@oliebraz Жыл бұрын
Wow! never thought I’d see this.
@Milan_N13
@Milan_N13 Жыл бұрын
I really dont understand why contenders keep giving Doc Rivers a chance.
@smtiewul
@smtiewul Жыл бұрын
Cause he’s more successful than 90 percent of nba coaches..
@ItzzShazey
@ItzzShazey Жыл бұрын
@@smtiewul so successful he hasnt been past round 2 since 2008 lmaooo
@SomeChink
@SomeChink Жыл бұрын
@@smtiewulhow? every current head coach with a title is better than him, and there’s young guys coming up like Udoka and Monty and probably more I’m missing who are better
@Aggrandize.__
@Aggrandize.__ Жыл бұрын
@@ItzzShazeytbh 2010 but same 💩 different 🚽
@BurtHandsome
@BurtHandsome Жыл бұрын
Maybe Joel would stay healthy if he didn't fall down every play
@andrewrosas7425
@andrewrosas7425 Жыл бұрын
After watching the beef history between you two and now to see this. I’m happy to see it.
@scandelez
@scandelez Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be more surprised to see doc rivers on this pod lol.
@TheShachattack13
@TheShachattack13 Жыл бұрын
This feels like the time Kobe and shaq did that staredown 1 on 1 interview to signify the truce to their feud
@Cyberclone8790
@Cyberclone8790 Жыл бұрын
doc rivers is a solid coach but part of those failures were adjustments he needed to make. He's kinda being used as a scapegoat tho cause harden and Embiid both dropped duds in back to back games
@speedwagon6-e1b
@speedwagon6-e1b Жыл бұрын
“The truth keeps changing”
@jdkay1390
@jdkay1390 Жыл бұрын
Great coach
@scandelez
@scandelez Жыл бұрын
Doc wanted out of Boston because he didn’t want to rebuild and they’ve experienced more success than him during these 10 years LOL. Gift that keeps on giving.
@Marcus_shawn
@Marcus_shawn Жыл бұрын
Let that sink in
@chetstevens2004
@chetstevens2004 Жыл бұрын
Brett brown still went further with this team than glen rivers
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
No he didn't and Brett had Joel, Ben, Butler, Tobi and Reddick
@claydouglas2526
@claydouglas2526 Жыл бұрын
Doc is a great interview
@Noeyhefner
@Noeyhefner Жыл бұрын
I just got recommended a video on rivers vs simmons beef last night and now today they are doing a podcast lmaoo life is interesting
@KZ1994able
@KZ1994able Жыл бұрын
Folks want Embiid to a leader, rally his teammates, "be around your guys & spend time witchur guys & let em know you love em" but iTz difficult to do that when you have teammates that you have chemistry with getting traded every year wifout the organization consulting you about it. The folks up top need to lead by example
@jackzeldon2883
@jackzeldon2883 Жыл бұрын
you are the only person on this thread w/ a brain.... Ownership still paying Doc Millions to take a yr off so he aint gonna say ish about Phila's real issue which is Ownership & Front Office.... NBA media protects ownership at all costs & I'm show Simmons agreed before this interview not to make a single remark about Josh Harris or Daryl Morey
@SpencerCornelia
@SpencerCornelia Жыл бұрын
Doc should have his own KZfaq show like Draymond
@rohandunbar2072
@rohandunbar2072 Жыл бұрын
He says he doesn't pay much attention to social media
@DAY1K_
@DAY1K_ Жыл бұрын
Great podcast
@grayclaw1391
@grayclaw1391 Жыл бұрын
Way to go Doc: Do your thing.
@YungShaoKahnCito
@YungShaoKahnCito Жыл бұрын
Doc is slick, Bill asked him what the Sixers need without saying names, and he described James Harden😂
@allenross3050
@allenross3050 Жыл бұрын
Harden is gonna get a max contract
@gabriel-uc1uz
@gabriel-uc1uz Жыл бұрын
14:15 isn't that the coaches job to figure out? How do you blame James for your inability to figure out how to work him successfully in your offensive scheme.
@TomDelayBeats
@TomDelayBeats Жыл бұрын
because he doesn't know how to coach
@bruceg8612
@bruceg8612 Жыл бұрын
Good interview.
@MrShanester117
@MrShanester117 Жыл бұрын
Asking Doc Rivers advice on basketball is just hilarious
@JoshBeFreeTV
@JoshBeFreeTV Жыл бұрын
This is why Doc doesn't win. Gotta ride the stars. "Stars, Stars, Stars..." Not "Team, Team, Team..." He refuses to make strategic adjustments in the course of dynamic action that will help a team environment. He's a static coach. Man's won a SINGULAR championship on a team with 4 All-Stars (3 Hall of Famers and a walking Triple Double in Rondo) and rides that coat tail to coaching gigs. 😭
@mikegrant826
@mikegrant826 Жыл бұрын
Exactly - when he talked about game 7 he said how great they played in the first quarter - 'we were moving the ball and playing great, without Joel or James that involved'. That worried him??? 'I needed them involved because in game 7 you need your stars in order to win'. What a horrible way to see that
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop Жыл бұрын
Rondo will be HOF also. Two time champ for 2 biggest franchises ever, Tied for 6th most playoff triple doubles ever (Magic 30, LeBron 28, Jokic 16, Westbrook 12, Kidd 11, Bird/Rondo/Draymond 10), 3X assist champ, 1X steal champ, 4X all NBA D, 4X All Star, made an all nba team. More guys make HOF in NBA so I believe he’ll make it. If KG never gets hurt before 09 playoffs he may have 3 rings.
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