Really? I liked him a lot more when he was younger than now.

your opinion

I think he's getting with age - with his attitude and reduced size ego anyway

devastator jr: Gish and Pisces Iscariot are still my all-time favorite SP albums. Siamese Dream is a rung below but still a good album, but it's hurt by the fact that its singles are its best songs; while, every song on Gish is is worth listening to, and the album as a whole has a continuity that flows really well from opener to closer with not a dud in between. He got too ambitious with Melloncollie. Instead of a full double album, that effort could've benefited from some some of its tracks being left out of the final cut, reducing it down to a single LP with an accompanying EP of a few extra songs. Most bands that attempt the double album gimmick usually don't do it so quickly (5-10 years, minimum into the life of the band -- not within its first 5 years), and I think that this rush into putting one out negatively affected the overall quality of the final product. It feels, to me, like a sprawling collection of three or four incomplete partial albums haphazardly Frankensteined together as a singular piece that lacks a unifying vision/theme. Resultingly, the continuity from song to song to song from the opening to the closing track isn't nearly as cohesive as the earlier three albums.

Meh he is a right wing douche that played a part even in his youth. Now he is doing the "look I put my band back together" making everything he is saying a complete line of bullshit.

They were, but they are gone, we are still here. Just enjoy now for what it is because in another 20 years you will be yearning to be here now.

Poóper Qayan - I am from the future. You are so wrong. We have the best of everything, & time travel too. We just go to the 80's & 90's & hang out & go to rock concerts. It's great!!!

Coffee & Comics 😂

Dragon Born candid and articulate people with strong opinions are generally regarded as "assholes" by average people. we need more guys like corgan to do what he does.

Dragon Born BLINK?! IS AND WAS ALWAYS CRAP! HOW CAN YOU MENTION THEM HERE ?!?!?!

59mar I agree. I mentioned them in comparison to the Pumpkins. The Pumpkins evolve. Blink-182 do not. Thus, Blink are not good artists.

Blink-182 did kind of evolve though. From hard straight 4/4 punk rock influence in Dude Ranch to the more complex and poppy Enema of the State. Then they matured and went to straight alternative emo with Self Titled. They didn't evolve as much as the Pumpkins of course, but it was noticable over time. I DO however agree that the recent tours are just cash grabs

I agree he's a genius. Not worried about his personality, I'm sure I will never meet him. But from here - he's awesome. Love his music.

Philip Garcia Actually, he has a lot to say in this clip if you listen and follow along.

@AgentOfOblivion yes you are

@ntw98 yes you are

Mr. Corgan is a cool dude and very intelligent.

"out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins nature kids, but they don't got no function I dont understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck..." - Pavement

Ha@

Talented guy, but, he holds grudges like crazy.

@@Eliandro264 Dude. You're hanging on to something he said almost 9 years ago. Besides, if somebody put you down in a song, yet that person was nowhere near as talented as you are, don't you think you'd have the right to bring that up once in a while? It's not like Billy constantly talks about that. You might though.

Me too. He is one public fugure I can certainly say that I love.

I agree, he seems to be the most put together rocker I've ever seen.

He's both very smart/jerkish and sensitive. And an enormous douche. He's a complicated guy. I just read this funny old article excerpt from some magazine covering Soundgarden during Big Day Out 94, which Smashing Pumpkins was on, and there's a part where Kim Thayil is sitting at a bar, drinking beer, and Corgan walks up and first talking about how he USED to like Soundgarden and how he wants to make the next Pumpkins album "like 83-84 New Wave, instead of tangential, more like to the heart in the style of Echo and the Bunnymen", really sounding like an ass to old Black Flag loving Kim. Then Corgan tries to analyze him through some Astrological bullshit, egging Kim to give him his sign. Kim after long arguing finally gives him his birthday, and Corgan responds that he's a Virgo and that's why he's argumentative. Kim sharply answers back that "damn right I'm argumentative, you should've been told that since I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign." Corgan responds, "I'm a Pisces, I pick up on these things." Corgan then starts talking about how he hates that magazines put him in the back of pictures, and Kim angrily says, "You wrote all the songs, you play all the instruments, you control the band to the point where most people think of the band as the Billy Corgan Expierience, why would you care about some photo," and Billy fucking says "It means they don't think I'm the cute one." Kim tears Billy limb to limb and then mocks him about how he's probably going to go back to his therapist in Chicago and cry about the big, mean bear man that made fun of him. Corgan walks away, visually upset, and comes back the next day right before the Pumpkins set telling Kim, I kid you not: "You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart." He then proceeded to play a knockout show. That's just BC for you. Between him and lady boy fashion model James Iha, I think D'Arcy was manlier.

So who's the douche? twenty something Billy or you bringing it up 20 years later in excruciating detail like it matters at all?

I love Billy he's very insightful. The media did him dirty

I liked them, but they were pretty pretentious, and the lead singer's solo stuff is so boring.

alex holt underrated comment

When I get older, the biggest thing I don't wanna do is think about the past. That is not how I am at all. Where I am now is not that great anyhow. When your young and poor, you need to keep crappy jobs.

***** I really liked what you just said and very much think you have a solid head on your shoulders lol I absolutely agree mate

***** Absolutely

+dios bananos There's a fair amount of very good stuff out there mate but you have to make the effort to look for it. You largely won't find it in the mainstream. When people decided to pirate instead of purchasing music they swapped the future of innovative music with the self gratification of getting something now & free. We can all see the consequences. If there's no money in it, it simply won't be backed, hence the saturation of easy to develop and sell music, pop, edm, party hip hop and the dearth of music types that typically take more development time and expense - rock, metal etc. It's basic economics. Your money has a voice, use it. I personally don't want to see any genre suffer. I just want variety in the mainstream.

+SupesCoob That is one of the most interesting things i've ever read on YT, good work. What I really miss is the good stuff infiltrating the mainstream like it did in the 90s. It was so much more fun seeing a great band take over the world, rather than seeing great bands just about making a living which is what happens now. Care to point me in the direction of some "very good stuff" as you put it :)

Exactly, artists (specially the ones who have been in the business for at least 10 years) constantly get criticised if they dont change their style people will say they have no versatility and all their stuff sounds the same but if they do change their style then people will say their quality got worse and that their earlier stuff was better

Webster Branding Group dude there is sooo much good music out there. It is easier than ever to produce and release your own stuff. But it is double edged. It is harder to be discovered by others. Good music is out there but it is harder to find

I totally agree

@@juliejohnson3626 You forgot to change accounts before you agreed with yourself. Better luck next time :P

lol. Maybe that economic model isn’t so bad

Deliberately lying about the classic lineup Corgan mostly reformed in order to release the NEXT Pumpkins album is very revealing. You people are absolutely obsessed with Billy for some reason. Missing your lost youth perhaps?

+Idiots cause music is fun lots of people take it too seriously. It's just a Josh Homme quote I really like

Grunge was about rebelling though, that’s the point he’s making

There was plenty of trash pop in the early 90s too. Rednex, 2 unlimited, Stakka Bo, The Outhere Brothers, Nightcrawlers, Scootet. Way too much to mention. There will always be trash music, there will always be good music. You just have to sift through tonnes of shit to find one little gold nugget.

I agree to an extent that music INNOVATION died in the late 90s, but disagree that it was "replaced" by pop garbage. Pop garbage has always existed, and will continue to. You have to search for music that resonates with YOU.

Right on the nose.

Yep - the reason why there isnt as much political activism in music is hugely reduced numbers of distribution channels, thanks to goliath companies taking over each other - and only a few players in the media (radio, TV, internet, etc)

mmm81 m I feel like we need another music movement to destroy the mainstream musical shit that is spewing on the radio every two seconds. It's always the same songs. The same dull, simple lyrics a five-year-old can come up with. (And Understand) And it's always the same mindless artists. Now you just need to look hot for them to put you on a stage. Where did the talent go? Where did the originality go? Right in the trash. We need to start a musical revolution to put an end to mainstream music. There is no music industry any more. There is no Hollywood. With that being said, #FuckMainstreamMusic

Exactly.

It wasn’t even a burn, because Pavement has done nothing worth a burn.

Will you call your band Growing Pumpkins?

If you come to Dayton OH (don't know why you would.. But if you do) hit me up. I can help schedule gigs in the area. Very familiar with the "scene". You're probably dead by now anyways. If not literally, you might be on the inside. I almost am.

KidScipio YES. I will play bass

I'm sure he'd actually love that

@Spicecrop Sir, Pumpkin Pie is his new band.