That really is a shitty prospect.

women and their unrealistic expectations. in 2049, they finna say 'if you're not over 7'5'' and a gigabillionaire. swipe left!!'

**distant howling on 9gag**

@@redbettait5161 istg bro yall see some insane tiktok women and assume all women are that immature. I dont think women have it any easier in reality, it's always know your place or stay lonely.

@@cryptid_cactus yeah... They have even worse. Ugly guy still have some chances with a certain charm, sense of humour, confidence, ability to gather resources and so on. For an ugly girl on the other hand, chances to find a partner are awfully slim.

Lol

This is the best comment...so underrrated

Lol

@@supanjitbarman._roll_no304 - "underrated" best word ever to use in a KZfaq comment. It shows everyone that you've done the research, and crunched all the numbers. 👌👍

@@samuelluria4744 the comment was worth the research.thank u for appreciating

Have a hefty wallet with you; it's the elixir of love.

Villian arc begins

I wonder why Mr Bear

@@JaleelBeig 😂😂😂😂

You and me both, I had an AI girlfriend who kept cheating on me and regularly made porn. After that I was too depressed to continue with it so I deleted it

You have no idea what the world is gonna be like after GPT4 becomes common place.

@@chinabluewho Na. @puiterken is right. Live in an urban environment disconnected from nature, or engage with the environment in a maximal way

Bruh, that hit me. No wonder I play so many games.

It's pretty directly a porn metaphor. JOI is a real world porn term that has connections with self gratification and masturbation.

keep the video games off that unholly list

heartache,, you can press mute whenever, sounds amazing to me

That's a dumb comment a holographic AI ,or robotic girlfriend would be the best thing ever

@@SpaceRanger187 😂

Get some hoes man

Nothing but air thrusts

It's an AI that's advanced enough to be sentient. It has feelings. Which is why K was so devastated when the emanator was shot, effectively killing her.

I’m confused, so you’re saying she didn’t genuinely feel grateful…? So that completely disregards her comment when she tells K I love you before Luv kills her.

@@eden20111 I would argue that much of the point of both Blade Runner movies is that we can never really know. If a replicant or a hologram is sophisticated enough to appear just as alive or as sentient as a human who can really decide what is real, etc. It gets into philosophy of the mind and free will and all of that. Just like I can''t really disprove or prove that you have subjective experience. You could tell me that you do but so could a replicant ;)

​@@piersonlaplante6921 its just very clever programing of computer code, nothing fancy, and could all be done using an excel spreadsheet, making the product affordable, mass producible, compact and portable.

Its Just a AI with billions of terabites code implemented to mimic human emotions etc. Just like human, maybe

Her emotions are real bro, you are just mad because she is actually feminine and normal, and libs hate that.

@@True_ChristianSHE'S AN AI

@@zyshock You're replying to a flat earther that has a video of an 8 year old girl brainwashed into it on his channel. There's absolutely no point in tryin to argue with this crazy pedo.

​@@True_Christian shut up about american politics already we dont care

@@fable-veil Clearly you do

the real, true love will come. just be patient.

@@FabiMail57 shit advice. Don't be patient, do something to make it happen. If you're going to be sitting on your ass waiting for "true love" you'll die lonely and miserable.

@@FabiMail57 yeahhhh i mean

@@FabiMail57 booo but death is waiting

@@FabiMail57 thats not true, stop misleading people.

Exactly, we are getting closer to a world like the one in the movie "HER", very close...

Cyberpunk is great isn't it.

Bladerunner is a red pill film for sure

@@Inflatableorc it really is

I don't get this view, why are you gatekeeping being "human". If an AI is sophisticated enough then it is no longer in any relevant capacity different from us... it can feel, it can think, it can learn, it can love, tell me exactly what is "perverse" about it. Is it the fact that someone you don't even know or some corporation created the AI? How is that different from finding a human partner, when that person was also created by two people you don't know who in turn were created by four people and so on. Is it the fact that it is governed by code? How is that different from how we are governed by our emotions and physical needs, in fact both computers and humans are bound by the same laws of nature. "Surely if a machine is able to reproduce another machine systematically, we may say that it has a reproductive system. And how few of the machines are there which have not been produced systematically by other machines? But it is man that makes them do so. Yes; but is it not insects that make many of the plants reproductive, and would not whole families of plants die out if their fertilisation was not effected by a class of agents utterly foreign to themselves? Each one of ourselves has sprung from minute animalcules whose entity was entirely distinct from our own, and which acted after their kind with no thought or heed of what we might think about it. These little creatures are part of our own reproductive system; then why not we part of that of the machines?" In reality humans are lot more like machines than the other way around.

there's definitely a self-aware dystopian vibe to it

Maybe Ryan should go on a date or two, then he will probably look on the hologram with a lot more affection. Real humans aint all their cracked up to be.

that, and his character was pretty emotionless for the majority of the first and second acts. the more he finds out about his past (or so he thought) and meets deckard his character gradually becomes more emotional

ForsenDespair

@@Scarletlord LULW TRUEEE HUMANS ARE FCKIN.. Christ Sadge

He rejects their reality and replaces it with his own ...

And? Women are too programmed to be happy with their kids. According to you that makes maternal love fake.

I think even her enjoying the rain is programmed.

@@DannyJustiniano A mother love to her sons is programmed. Are u gonna say me it isn’t real?

its trending that way. More people are working from home.

it will ultimatively become that way, im pretty sure. this kind of future is near once metaverse arrives

Listen man i know a lot of people that are lonely and it's only growing, more people want fewer or no kids. This world is full of corruption, greed, hate/discrimination ect. And with WEF planning their vision for 2030 bladerunner 2049 and cyberpunk 2077 are not going to be that different from our dark future

@@Skull211 That dark future is already here. We already live in a Corporate Dystopia in my opinion.

Already there in Japan. Hologram/Digital girlfriends are already a thing. Like the meme says: "You best start believin' in cyberpunk dystopias. You're in one."

Amazon:"………………interesting…" ※invests millions into hologram industry※

Not only that, but K was also created by Wallace Corp. So he's a product, buying products from the company that created him. An insane business model!

@MR. RICKLES FARTTENHOOS Why the future? It's already our present and was our past. Essentially anything we buy.

and then I think why my computer is so happy when I install a new program!

Better reaction than the one I got for a freakin diamond ring

It already exists, just not for peasants.

Something like it already exists, but it's nowhere near this sophisticated and it won't be for a long, long time.

@@gingerlicious3500 It is. You have no idea what the military and rich people have at their disposal. Their technology is at least 50 years ahead of anything you ever saw.

@@IronKnee963 I actually do, because I have experience in the military and am better-informed than most when it comes to military procurement because I keep an ear to the ground in that field. Meanwhile, you're pulling your assertions out of your ass and have absolutely zero proof to supplement it. If we had access to this kind of technology it would be publicly available. There is no entity out there that would not jump at the chance for the kind of profits these kinds of products would rake in. It would definitely be expensive as hell, but it would be available. The idea that the military sector is fifty years ahead of the private sector just isn't true in most aspects. It's true in SOME aspects, because there are types of technology (like stealth, for instance) that really only have a military application and thus only the military is going to be willing to throw billions of dollars into R&D for those technologies. For that reason, those kinds of technology tend to he very niche. Are there emerging technologies in the defense industry that are classified or not widely available? Yes, of course. That is obvious. Is this kind of AI one of them? I seriously doubt that. The kind of technology that something like Joi uses has pretty limited military application and there really is no reason to think that, if it did exist exclusively for high-end consumers, it would be secret. There are plenty of things that only the hyper-rich can afford that we know about. Why would this be different? Are the elites trying to keep us down by preventing us from having fake big tiddy gfs? The military really isn't as good at keeping secrets as people seem to think it is. It couldn't even get the guys who killed Bin Laden to keep their mouths shut so I have a very hard time believing they have this kind of technology and are keeping it a secret for no real reason.

@@gingerlicious3500 Yup, you are definitely delusional. If you really think your puny experience in the military as a foot soldier gave you any insight, you might as well believe that the easter bunny is real. Ironic how you assume I don't have any experience myself. Bin Laden wasn't killed, he died years before they paraded Obama to be a hero. You probably never even been inside a D.U.M.B with access to the Adolla ride. I'm done arguing with you.

For example My exgirlfriend

That's the whole point of a holographic girlfriend.

Exatamente, muito melhor mesmo, apesar de ser apenas projeções de luzes juntamente com a inteligência artificial de uma programação altamente avançada, deixa a transparecer, que as mulheres de verdade, precisam otimizar sua própria condição a qual se encontram.

Cause she is playing a role, and the role os of a devote lover with nothing else in life besides him, you can't compare how "real" or "authentic" a person is by how much affection they show their partners. Perhaps the one that was not authentic was you and they felt that

@@mariadasgracasferreiramafr7624As mulheres reais "otimizarem sua própria condição" seria virarem umas abestalhadas submissas sem vontade própria como a namorada holográfica do filme? Tu tá com umas prioridades erradas aí, hein.

Notwithstanding the aforesaid, I always thought he seemed hardly bothered when she was ‘crushed to death’. Didn’t seem to bother his mood at all. They seemed sweet together but technology is truly Satanic.

K's love was real, Joi's wasn't. She had no agency over her programming

@@josephyearwood1179 lol the hell you talking about? of course his mood doesnt seem "too affected" cause he's a machinistic manufactured clone of a human, but he was definitely devastated by joi dying, and that was the final catalyst that motivated him to save deckard and bring him to his daughter. do yall mf's even know how to watch this movie istg

Unrealistic and dangerous. It promotes transhumanism as a seducing concept. There's nothing more anti-human and antilife than humanizing non-humans and/ or AI.

@@hrvsmart I think it is implied that she is an AI meaning that she can learn and develop a personality based on her experiences

yeah.... yeah... :( and youtube recomended this to me. i hate its algorithm.

When he lost joi i felt it like i was him, i felt the emptyness and when he was watching the big ass naked joy on the street i felt that realization that she was nothing more than a product, that was the peak of the movie for me where it all came together came in and the world came crashing down on him

@@shazilla6518 :(

It is not depressing at all because in order scene you clearly see hookers lusting after him, it's not like it's a world where there are rules against skinjobs having sex partners, this is the far future where u can buy human beings and even get laid with hookers who has 8 tits...This movie is just tryna advertise stupid trends you will see very soon in the world but it does it in a poor and pathetic way...skinjob or not which girl wouldn't want to get laid with Ryan Gosling....Poor writing in this movie but greatest visuals I've ever seen in a sci fi movie...

At least you can enjoy authentic emotions with Ana unlike with gold digger gfs nowadays

[Lars & The real girl]- Ryan gosling was in also

W force unleashed reference

Thats a dude mtf and Ryan is a woman ftm

@@tonydiesel3444 😂😂

Touch grass

With AI improving rapidly you may not have long to wait, five years at most IMO.

What's interesting that came to mind for me about Joi was that in the context of the whole movie, they kept it somewhat ambiguous yet yearning to see if Joi had more depth to her as a person rather than just programmed to be the best gf acting for Gosling's Joe. Maybe kind of like the mystery of the first movie as to whether Deckard was a replicant or not hinted at. Also, after the "blended-threesome" scene, the replicant told Joi she wasn't all that where I wondered if it meant Joi as an AI was no where as advanced in AI or independent emotional thought as the current replicants descended from Tyrell's tech. So wondering if Joi would also develop her own true "emotional responses" eventually at some point like the first movie replicants or she was always on a much lower far simpler tier of AI tech that could never approach the Tyrell replicants and their level of mindful self-actualization.

K-knows it's all programed, like if your laptop would say to you after booted up, -I'm so happy to be with you again, Master user!

Uh, I think in a world where synthetic robot's can learn to love and have a child, Joi can have real emotions based off her life experiences, regardless that she's artificial intelligence.

@@JaybayJay Amazes me how people try and contradict the intentions of the creators of a fictional piece of work, based on rules that apply in the real world. Especially stuff like Blade Runner, where the entire premise is based on non-human sentience.

@@ValleyRC Blade Runner 4: Return of the Joi..

@@ValleyRC They don't get it. Decker was resistant to Rachael, but he finally got it when he listen to Roy tell his tale of sorrow, his experiences, his joys, wonders and his regrets before dying. The tears in the rain he called it. They really do feel in this universe and they're not really artificial intelligence anymore at that point, they step into the realm of true intelligence. As Replicants, or just synthetic humans they should never have been allowed to step foot on Earth. But they evolved to the point where they could break free of their behavioral programming.

I'm sure many of us have been watching something on YT and just when your interest peaks or you're feeling overwhelmed with emotion, a damn 15 second ad for boner pills comes on and you can't skip it. I'm guessing that's how this scene feels.

@@cmc5207 💀💀

The future waifu is within our grasp.

@@cmc5207 Intelligent people use ad blockers and therefore they literally never see any ads on youtube, nor anywhere else on the internet either.

IKR, like how “Escape From New York” prepared us for Manhattan Island being turned into a maximum-security prison in 1997 and “2001” predicted how we sent a manned mission to Jupiter that year.

not really

​@@crusifyng yes really

Homely ? She is hot in any form lol

You _DO_ realize, that your use of the word "homely", in any remote connection to Ana de Armas instantly flags you as a crackhead, _right_ ???

@@HR-rt9nh - (you beat me by one minute!😜)

@@samuelluria4744 lol

@@HR-rt9nh - Glad somebody called that out. If that's homely then I'd hate to think what you call the average woman on the street. That woman is gorgeous.

When you think about it, we're basically living in that future now. We may not be living in a future of holographic AI girlfriends (yet), but we have modern equivalents. What immediately comes to mind is the fact that p rn is everywhere, and for those softer moments people turn to the affirmation or comfort-based ASMR audios and roleplays. Want something a little less one-sided? There's an entire ocean of live streamers who cater to just this sort of interaction.

@@chriseffpunkt4333 bruh grow some balls

Its manufactured yes, but the pink one is the base model, the AI could be called sentient and branches on its own direction with actions and words becoming unique. Joe is a word for Average joe meaning nameless person or anyone.

I wonder if she's programmed to be so happy he bought the present... as some sort of built in feature to promote further spending on the company that made Joi

you just described most thots anyway.

@Rom Rono , y u trying to break my heart man??

That is the whole point of Bladerunner, to question what is "Real". Aren't we all just a bunch of preferences when you get down to it? Does K's feelings & thoughts not matter because he is a replicant? The argument that is always brought up is "He is just programing" but aren't we all? Don't we essentially get programed as we grow up by society & our parents?

rather 4:09

"He wants to bring her joy, when ironically, that is literally what she is programmed to do for him" So by allowing him to bring her joy, or at least the illusion of it, that brings him joy thereby fulfilling her primary objective.

Pretty different from the first movie, which is probably why this one bombed. In the original, he hated synthetics because they took the jobs and places of actual people. When the sexbot followed him home, he wanted to get rid of it, but for some reason it liked him so he pitied it.

@@TehButterflyEffect Sounds like you need to rewatch the original.

Try to heal! can it pass? Unless, of course, this is a congenital disease?!

@@The1stDukeDroklar Yeah I do. I like it. Seen it a dozen times but it's still worth watching.

like who and her whats?

You mean Marilyn? Or what..

She appears in an advertisement for diamonds 😄

"for moments , like no other"💎

@@tatskamaster Marilyn is so iconic, the story about Kim k wearing,/subsequently damaging her dress- STILL gets more publicity than this ana lady this kid is crushing on

Attention spans are 3 minutes, currently. With population collapse..... who knows. 😢

You tube Shorts. Tiktok, and modern life is faster paced and people have less patience

Only if.

no nagging IS the amazing part hehehe.

She's gorgeous. You should see her in the latest bond movie. 👌

Indeed

It's probably why Ben Affleck dated her

I dont think that hell is Fine!

Dude she looks like Riley reeds twin sister

This is deep.

cringe

@@rainofrest7778 I love that movie. Jim Carrey nailed it.

I thought it was Riley Reid for a second

@@braco6757 lol I can see that.

Because you can't get a girlfriend? You probably couldn't afford one of these either. A sad reality in both worlds for you. 😅

@@ImARealHumanPerson Sorry for you there's no Homo erotic version. Cheers all the best brother.

The main issue is that libs hate that in the future, women will be normal and feminine again via hologram versions, and therefore they realize that zero men will ever want the feminist "real thing" any more since there is *nothing* desirable about that at all whatsoever. That's the driving force of 99%+ of the Comments in this discussion section: angry libs who want to keep ladies masculine & ugly and unbearable forever.

No, she didn’t. Because, like most everything in this world, she was never real. That's kind of the whole point of her character.

It's all part of the product hommie, it's what's coming to us too...

That's because it's a movie. In real life I'm sure K backed her up, as anyone with rudimentary knowledge about data storage would.

@@2hot2handle65 Perhaps it's like an NFT in a way? You get one copy of the program. Backing her up on multiple devices would allow you to replicate the experience and they want you to buy a new one instead. Maybe. I dunno.

They can be "One of a Kind" type of product, due to how their personality algorithm might developed by how long the time they've spend with their owner, so yeah more or less like an NFT, but more emotionally attached.

There are special places in hell for those who spoiled movies.

@@krow7402 I think it's more like a machine-learning algorithm. Basically, the algorithm learns a bunch of stuff to optimize a function. That function would most likely formulate "how happy is this guy." Happier he is, the more optimized. Then the function is stored in that device. So unless K backed up the data, he can only go out and buy a new copy of Joi. Actually, I think it would be pretty easy to make an artificial girlfriend even today.

That is the cruel irony, the Emanator was played by a real inanimate object, while the Ana de Armas was portraying something that was not there.

cringe

stop simping bro

@@destroyerofsimps6574 no

I haven't seen either. Would you see them that same order again if you had the chance?

I saw the original first, but enjoyed the second one more. It felt like they actually wanted to make a sequel rather than just go for a cash grab.

More likely gf

it will my friend... at least they wont cheat!!

@@martinmontes6170 unless they cheat on another robot.

@@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 good point but it wont happen if we have the control.. you cannot control a person

@@martinmontes6170 true good point. Sometimes I wonder since covid have people been afraid of Sex.

You also need protein and fats. I recommend keto or carnivore diet.

26 years and 11 months - checking in...you still with us?

@@user-vc2qo6gl1k i am eternal!

@@RaptorJesus. I'll be checking in on you from time to time. You'll never know when, so be ready.

Everything is a good look on Ana de Armas!

oh boy, that escalated quickly

damn bro, there's a better technology called "going outside"

@@frenzii2393 wishing other people's demise, you won't either

And the that machine questioning while questioning its own reality tries to subconsciously set that program free.

What's the difference between real and not real? Aren't humans programmed the same as machines

😂😂😂

I'm pretty sure it wasnt coincidental.

Bruh how did that not cross my mind

What JOI mean?

@@HardKore5250 ...

I'm the friend... :(

🤣 😂

*And now* too as well, not just "in the future."

In this one, or the last one? zzzzzzzzz

You kidding right

Obviously, you haven’t seen Artie Lange’s Beer League.

She's very normal. There are lots like her walking out there

This is the saddest and most depressing thing I ever heard

@@abortion_worst_CRIME_inHISTORY No there aren't.

Why, then ? today talking to an AI is more interesting than talking to a woman, I can't wait to see this kind of technology coming and it's going to happen sooner than you think.

@@dridri6452 pov: women dont like talking to you at all or just dont talk to you at all

@@mat7258 So what? Even if what you said to him is 100% true, that still does nothing to negate his points at all.

​@@mat7258So? Who cares about real woman? All of them are brainless

I am a woman and I want a Joi in my life as well. Most women are invisible, and struggle just as hard as men because we don't look like egirls, we get rejected, and work 9-5 to pay our own bills.

🙏

Yikes

Same here. Im genuinely mad that I probably won't be around for this type of tech. The closest thing right now is that website/app Replika AI.

@@alejandraguzman7709 Cope

Get a motorcycle. A Way better investment than modern women with the body count of 30

​​@@alexesquivel856630? My guy these days it is more like 100 bodies.

Until the courts decided that holographic images have more rights than men.

@@mbradley274 Lol, yes but only the female ones. Eh!

@@davidedbrooke9324 I think that was the point he was making

@@scottf5791 maybe!

@@mbradley274 I see what you are saying, but let's at least enjoy this while it lasts, until that time comes.

Speak for yourself lmao. If a literal robot who can't say no and doesn't have any agency of their own is an ideal partner for males, it's for the best that they get exactly that and don't try to force that on actual women

This is a depressing thought to think about as a woman. How could I ever possibly compare to a literal AI made to be the perfect customizable and adaptable companion? If AI “boyfriends” were around, I don’t think it would have even nearly the same power that AI girlfriends. Not to over generalize or anything, but part of what we like about having a male partner is the stability and provision he brings into our lives. Companionship, intimacy, and sex is part of it, but the real key (again, not to overgeneralize; just speaking from my perspective) is how a man can really “ground” a woman’s life. An AI kind of by definition can’t really do that. I know, we all know, that if something like joi was in the world, men would absolutely RUN to it and it leaves me with a pit in my stomach. Not to throw a dramatic pity party or anything but seriously though, how would I or any woman ever compare...

@@mcgheebentle1958 It's very simple. An ever growing number of men are completely alienated from society and live their lives being completely invisible to women. Don't feel pressured, you wouldn't acknowledge one of us anyways, much less date us, if your life depended on it. And even if the almost impossible would happen, what good does it do? Half of the population is no longer expected to honour their terms of the social contract.

@@mcgheebentle1958 why are you eager for someone else’s validation lol. Learn how to live for yourself, not for others

@@azradietrich1215 Nothing in my comment even implied that I believe that I need a man for “validation.” If you read closely, I wrote that a male partner can bring a sense of stability, provision, and grounding. The context of that statement was just to say that I don’t think straight women will love the idea of an AI boyfriend in the same way that straight men might love an AI girlfriend. I don’t “need validation.” It’s just a sad and lonely thought that I just know that I (and most other women) would be left in the dust if something like joi existed. Yeah, it’s a feeling of insufficiency, but I’d bet you’d also feel insufficient if you were being compared to a perfect being designed to be the ideal romantic partner. I think we’ve all felt that. It’s just sad to think that it would happen on a mass scale if something like joi was widely available. That’s all I’m saying. Trust me, I don’t need a stranger on the internet to tell me I “don’t need validation” lol.

@@azradietrich1215 this is a wise take. Hope the person you responded to can recognize that some day

remember he said "in the world". this is their world.

Or maybe you need to go to therapy.

@@hater8181 therapy an only do so much when the dating market remains garbage-tier. There is the assumption that the individual, not the culture/environment that is the problem. i dont see this american bullshit in other countries.

Can't blame him either, the truth of todays World is that no one cares and ofcourse in such a World you would like someone who actually cares about you.

I mean, he is an AI too, so the only difference is that he got a physical body. And is not programmed to be a perfect partner.

@@hater8181 Therapy will fix society BRO

Great comment. Need more like this on KZfaq imho.

and mr white

Indeed. Critics are worthless

It has an 88% on RT, it got great critical reception

pretty sure this movie was a hit with critics, just didnt do well at box office lol

It just didn't do well financially

Critics loved it - it’s the masses with low attention spans that are the idiots.

Japan in 2049 already

Society will demand it. If you haven't noticed, we have moved past the "men work and women are the reward" of the 50s and 60s. This resulted in stable families, well adjusted children, and men who would work hard for their families. Now, women want to work and don't want to raise families, and, while that, on the surface, is fine, they forgot about the 'First Rule of Changing the Game,' which is when you change the game, the other guy gets to as well. So, men, who won't have wives and kids and big houses and dogs, will not have to work nearly as hard to support all that and we are going to see some setbacks in innovation, development, and productivity because the ambition of the average American man will be dropped by about 75% because all he'll need is a car, a flat, a stereo, some booze, and a holographic girlfriend.

@@kliegl8613 very well explained that deep thoughts for socio-cultural impact, I understands it's just shock through era something always changes depends what people to see some good or bad depends other people thing just like nature vs nurture

@@kliegl8613 I'm indian and I need this life so bad.

@@kliegl8613 Indeed, no motivations, no purpose.

Trust me, Joy is more human than the massive number of NPC living inside a human body. The majority of people are just driven by greed and lust - that's how they're coded. I am a woman myself but I would buy me a Joi.

Never say never, new tech keeps coming out by the day, you may live to see the first versions of holographic spouses honestly

Maybe even more

It's around the corner