Greg: love isn’t canon Sure, sure... what was Sidorak motivation again?
@julescaruel26824 жыл бұрын
Roodaka's ass
@lewa39104 жыл бұрын
Sidorak... more like Simp-orak, am I right?... sorry ^_^;
@calm_hawk51674 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Love was never decanonized. It was just never canon in the first place. The reason why it's present in the movies and Mnog are that those creators had strong creative control over their own projects. That's why you see things that are unexplained in other Bio media (like takanuva's resurrection ritual) or things that outright contradict previous media (Takua's and jallers personality in the movies, as well as Vakama's in Web of Shadows). Meme's are cool and all, but people need to realize Greg was just the messenger for this information. He didn't set these ground rules, nor did he think it made sense for him to change them (MU inhabitants can't reproduce, so why would they need romantic love?)
@casuallavaring4 жыл бұрын
@@calm_hawk5167 my theory is that, because MU inhabitants are based on organic beings, they have limited instinctual remnants of romantic attraction but no intimate relationships (similarly to young children in our world)
@feyefall48554 жыл бұрын
@@calm_hawk5167 Though that kind of brings up the question of what romantic love is in the absence of the physical need/ability to reproduce. I feel an argument could be made that for some of the media featuring/referencing "romance," it's more about the two developing a mental/emotional relationship that ends up being more "intimate" than others because of how they get along. Even without the need for physical intimacy, there may still be the desire/need for emotional intimacy. Hmm, that kind of got away from me.
@travdump2094 жыл бұрын
Babe! It's 4pm! Time for your swimming lesson! *yes macku*
@curtisleblanc58974 жыл бұрын
wholesome........ but still non-canon. I'm calling the Vahki!
@Unkle_Genny4 жыл бұрын
Glorious
@dudestop11984 жыл бұрын
this makes me want to.... TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THOSE FALLS
@TYSniper4 жыл бұрын
I read that in Tahu's voice...
@mugiwaradarwin45043 жыл бұрын
AlpacaHawk?
@sebschimeck12732 жыл бұрын
@@mugiwaradarwin4504 Okay, in which video did he clip that?
2 ай бұрын
@@sebschimeck1273not the exact quote, but he made it a running gag in his Bionicle YTPs.
@ScisaacFisaac4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Tahu's voice actor played Rattrap, Waspinator, Dinobot, Silverbolt and several others for Beast Wars.
@legoawcstopmotioner94354 жыл бұрын
Isaac Hidalgo Scott McNeil? Cool!
@StarshadowStudiosRS2 жыл бұрын
Also Overlord in Ninjago. And I remember Beast Wars too
@JM642 жыл бұрын
Scott McNeil is one hell of a voice actor
@JM642 жыл бұрын
@StarScreen Studio Made even better by the fact all of his voices are top-tier
@kaitracksmalgom2 жыл бұрын
He must be a good voice actor I didn’t know that since all 3 sound so different
@chaospacemarine83303 жыл бұрын
Man the Mata Nui game interactions between Matorans were so wholesome, absolute diabetes
@E4439Qv53 жыл бұрын
Matoro saving Takua in the Drifts makes my _kokoro_ go _doki-doki._
@richardo4902 жыл бұрын
@@E4439Qv5 what rahi are those
@E4439Qv52 жыл бұрын
@@richardo490 Ko-Koro is the old ice village, but with the dash removed, it's also the Japanese word for "heart." Always thought that was funny, but it rarely comes up in casual conversation.
@dafoex Жыл бұрын
@E4439Qv5 Energy... Rest...
@ultimateaura76294 жыл бұрын
Bionicle: Love isn't canon Also Bionicle:
@TeamZydeOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Greg: Love is not canon Makuta: J O I N M E
@Chokun-Gaming4 жыл бұрын
Glatorian and agori are canonically allowed to feel romance
@TSO013 жыл бұрын
What do we care about glatorian and agori?..
@Luka11802 жыл бұрын
@@TSO01 I do.
@nezaniatoimya Жыл бұрын
@@TSO01 yes.
@liammeech37024 жыл бұрын
It was an absolute crime they didn't make a 2006/2007 movie
@InitialPC3 жыл бұрын
unpopular opinion, they should have made a 2010 movie imagine a 1 hour long fight scene between all the previous toa fighting waves of makuta
@nikajinpusno95633 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the fan-made stop motion movies of Ignition 1 (2006 story) And Ignition 2 (2007 story). Theyre Pretty great. Theyre on KZfaq, for free.
@TheCakesCup263 жыл бұрын
Legos contract with Miramax expired and they didn’t bother to renue it.
@liammeech370210 ай бұрын
@@TheCakesCup26 when did that expire? Sillu to not renew it, as the quality of animation progressed between MoL and WoS
@TheCakesCup2610 ай бұрын
@@liammeech3702 I honestly don’t remember where I saw this so I don’t know about any of the specifics
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer3 жыл бұрын
Aww Hewkii and Macku are wholesome as heck
@LinkiePup4 жыл бұрын
0:57 Jallers romance with Halli in Mask of Light. Turagah Vakkama even made a cheeky face at Jaller, signifying he knew Jaller likes Halli. So love it cannon
@memereaper27644 жыл бұрын
I think it was "I know that feeling, bro" moment
@Durgemann Жыл бұрын
He literally just looks at him like "dude you gonna tap that?"
@starstrudel84174 жыл бұрын
A good bulk of this is just friendship or manipulation, but that lil bit with Hewkii and Macku and Jaller/Hahli is pretty undeniable.
@kaitracksmalgom2 жыл бұрын
You also have sidarak and rodahka
@QuartzRoolz4 ай бұрын
this statement (From 3 years ago, sorry) implies that friendship isn't a form of love. sure, its a different form of love to romantic or sexual attraction, but Platonic Attraction can be as strong a form of love as any other. love is canon, fuck you greg.
@StopMoshin3 жыл бұрын
"I will cast my sword with yours, if you will have it." OH MY.
@E4439Qv53 жыл бұрын
Phrasing. This is why he's terse.
@makutamiserix56124 жыл бұрын
2:22 Oh my God I never caught that innuendo as a kid
@LordFindogask7344 жыл бұрын
You just ruined my innocence XD
@federerlkonig3304 жыл бұрын
Matau-Nokama-Vakama should be Canon. Never thought about that wonderful innuendo, thanks!
@curtisleblanc58974 жыл бұрын
No.
@jo-jo_da_one15yearsago4 жыл бұрын
Thats not very Christen of you
@Ponanoix4 жыл бұрын
@AT Productions How do Bionicles reproduce?
@HunhowsShadowStalker3 жыл бұрын
The Agori and Glatorian _do_ feel love, though. It's even canon that they can have children. They were, after all, originaly organic lifeforms that the Great Beings altered with a lot of cybernetics.
@curtisleblanc58974 жыл бұрын
That last quote. That is me trying to cleanse bionicle-related sub-reddits..... to save them from falling into hideous heresy.
@DiegoDiaz-dm6qe4 жыл бұрын
Matau: I see us taking a romantic ride drive ... ... ... ... JOIN ME!!
@GuninGames4 жыл бұрын
3:04 i lost it
@mislavgrosinic55844 жыл бұрын
2:22 who thought adding that was a good idea?
@LordFindogask7344 жыл бұрын
LOL all the romance/friendships XD
@Ponanoix4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude
@eagleheart22033 жыл бұрын
Lord findogask is one of the best bionicle youtubers. Any advice on my bionicle films?
@l00rd_pisoteart.864 жыл бұрын
(*Happy VDay) Habitants of the Matoran Universe: What is that?
@MatiNuva17244 жыл бұрын
Video: *starts* Me: oh so TahuXKopaka isn't canon?
@somecanadian5224 жыл бұрын
please don't tell me that's a real ship
@mehwhatever97264 жыл бұрын
@@somecanadian522 "-My sword will be yours." -"Your sword already belongs to me!" "suggestive music plays"
@eagleheart22033 жыл бұрын
@@mehwhatever9726 I'm gonna stop you right there
@loneshadow08443 жыл бұрын
@@mehwhatever9726 *Loads flamethrower* You won't go any further
@RedBonkleMan85343 жыл бұрын
AND MY AX
@beeninja25394 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that later Greg said that love was a thing that the Matoren and others could experience, just not sexually. Though I’m gonna have to fact check that
@ajrr9803 жыл бұрын
Yea but I dont wanna fact check that. I want it to be true :(
@JonnyHorseman2 жыл бұрын
...how do matoran even reproduce?
@diegohg74982 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyHorseman The Great being built them if they die, they revive in the Red Star and back to work
@frankunodostres4734 жыл бұрын
nobody said friendship and humor aren't canon
@Heccinchonker124 жыл бұрын
Isn't friendship a kind of love? I mean, not all love is romantic.
@ajrr9803 жыл бұрын
Solek and Takua's friendship was very much canon. It's not hard to believe that two matoran could get so close that it would become a somewhat romantic relationship. I think "non-cannon love" in the context of bionicle is just sexual.
@trande61364 жыл бұрын
Hold up. The “You worry about scratches” scene is no longer canon? Why??
@PlasticToa4 жыл бұрын
face tocch
@TheCakesCup263 жыл бұрын
Tahu getting infected isn’t 100% cannon according to some sources, so that might have something to do with it.
@SupersuMC2 жыл бұрын
It's more a joke about love not being Canon.
@kaitracksmalgom2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCakesCup26 what sources say that?
@TheCakesCup262 жыл бұрын
@@kaitracksmalgom I don't remember, I just went deep diving into bionicle lore and saw something on it.
@sirexilon493 жыл бұрын
2:49 Hey that's cannon!(At least semi-canon) That's why the ShadowedOne declared war on The Brotherhood of Makuta
@PlasticToa4 жыл бұрын
it's cannon for glatorian and agori though
@APinchofBazel4 жыл бұрын
Shhhh. Either way Kiina and Berix together is a sin against nature.
@LordFindogask7344 жыл бұрын
@@APinchofBazel Totally agree.
@Hyperdragon974 жыл бұрын
@@APinchofBazel I always read them as found family. Brother and sister.
@curtisleblanc58974 жыл бұрын
@@APinchofBazel yea.
@curtisleblanc58974 жыл бұрын
But nobody cares about them.
@rampantmutt9119 Жыл бұрын
0:33 the music here gives me such strong feelings of longing.
@MoonyMckayNetwork3 жыл бұрын
Look just cause Bonks dont bonk, dont mean they cant want to bonk
@shashummga34773 жыл бұрын
Broke: Not shipping Jaller with anyone Woke: Shipping Jaller with Hahli Bespoke: Shipping Jaller with Takua
@JM642 жыл бұрын
Bro, they're just really good friends bro I swear
@lozm48352 жыл бұрын
Transcendent: Polyamory.
@faye613 жыл бұрын
jala x hali.......no i will not unship it
@hydragonz.b.15083 жыл бұрын
Tahu: you travel with Gali? Pohatu: N o
@JM642 жыл бұрын
Huh, apparently Tahu translates to "know" and Pohatu to "stone"... from what language(s) though?
@PK-Radio2 жыл бұрын
Man there sure is a lot of... ...tension In these movies
@2chaskell4 жыл бұрын
Hewkii/Macku will always be canon to me
@julzbananz4 жыл бұрын
3:03 wat
@federerlkonig3304 жыл бұрын
"love is not Canon" . Well, farewell, Poly Vakama-Nokama-Matau. I smile because i thought It happened.
@Abyss_Watcher3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't care if Greg says it isn't canon. As far as I'm concerned, these scenes did happen.
@billwilson78413 жыл бұрын
Roodaka is the reason im into taller women smh
@JM642 жыл бұрын
*cries in being 6'2"*
@billwilson78412 жыл бұрын
@@JM64 feel you man, im 6'1" myself
@thejerminator8774 жыл бұрын
The lack of Pohatu/Kopaka content is disappointing. (I know they never shared a scene in the movies, but still.)
@transformersfan500okane3 Жыл бұрын
Greg: Love ain't Canon Greg while working on the Miramax Movie: is love canon?
@SithEmperetor4 жыл бұрын
Glatorian and Agori can feel love, they're not from Matoran Universe
@BellmoTheGreat Жыл бұрын
Anytime I found out about something in the movies that wasn't actually cannon I feel like I've been lied to my whole life because the movies were more or less the only way I was ever able to catch up on Bionicle lore as a kid because I really wasn't a fan of reading pages and pages of books. Did I mention I was a stupid kid as well?
@charlescole17664 жыл бұрын
Technically, the Spherus Magnites can canonically feel affection -- it's only the MUers.
@fariszinelabidine1769 Жыл бұрын
the vakama scream got me like: 💀
@dylanwight57643 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder who was more sassy, Roodaka or Matau
@JM642 жыл бұрын
Matau was a tool more than anything
@juliegrine28755 ай бұрын
Then what was roodaka then
@dansstorm56963 жыл бұрын
I don't know, maybe we as a culture just view these interactions as inherently romantic or sexual. It is possible for two people to treat each other with EXTREME passion without being in love, after all.
@ZachStone3213 Жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
@kohakkanuva32242 жыл бұрын
technically the Agori can love because they're not biomechanical robots. They're people who have some extreme modifications.
@JM642 жыл бұрын
They're organic, but organic =/= person since that implies they're human
@kohakkanuva32242 жыл бұрын
@@JM64 for all we know, they could've been humans before.
@nikajinpusno95633 жыл бұрын
Rewdaka, my kween!
@SonOfPsalms Жыл бұрын
3:17 I can never forget this edit and I hate you for it
@RedBonkleMan85343 жыл бұрын
Thanks GF for killing some genuinely heartfelt moments
@prolife38834 жыл бұрын
0:18 HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!!
@JM642 жыл бұрын
Yeah idk, kissing with a mask just seems... awkward at best
@Garmagic2yFhenrakh94 жыл бұрын
I want to cry
@Garmagic2yFhenrakh94 жыл бұрын
Except TLR. I never liked that movie.
@mehwhatever97264 жыл бұрын
@@Garmagic2yFhenrakh9 Wonder how many hints of a non cannon feeling we'd seen if movies for ignition trilogy were made, cuz Lego clearly couldn't help themselves. The funniest part, I think, that if Vakama fell for those silver rhakshi heads, it would've still been more reasonable motivation than "I just hate everyone now and forgot about my character development in the previous movie".
@Garmagic2yFhenrakh94 жыл бұрын
@@mehwhatever9726 I think his motivation was actually "Nothing ever goes right with my plans and everyone blames it on me because they think it's easy to make decisions, (plus I'm a half-beast) so I hate everyone"
@mehwhatever97264 жыл бұрын
@@Garmagic2yFhenrakh9 Heh, well if you take to account how Vakama was blamed for Nokama's idea of searching for disks that ended up being refused, that would make him quite frustrated. But it would take just a simple reminder of what Lhikan sacrificed himself for to make Vakama sober up and be more patient with his teammates. I still think the main problem is how Roodaka was handled, if we gonna go that road of toa metru turning hordika, Roodaka should've done something far more smart. The toa didn't know she was leading the visorak, so she could've ordered Sidorak to poison toa with hordika venom and then come to their rescue herself, pretending that she's just a random girl on their side and wants to take down the evil king Sidorak. That way she could've earned toa's trust to harvest their powers for freeing Teridax and slowly bring discord to their unity, manipulating Vakama, or Matau, setting them against one-another. Eventually they would realise she's using them and bring her down, but by that time it it'd be too late. At least that way she'd have more ways to influence all the toa and make them drop their guard, so she could twist their ideals and make some of the toa think that leaving matoran in Metru nui is a better option, or something like that, or that toa shoudn't give up their powers for waking up the matoran. So you could justify all the conflicts in the team by Roodaka being too deceiving and good of an actress, taking advantage of toa's desperation to turn back normal. (Lol and to think I'd wanna redeem her character anyway, but I think i know a way to do it more naturally. If she doesn't immideately changes, but kinda reflexes on her actions a little in the pit with Brutaka and other minor villains, blames Teridax for her misery, then pretends she's a good girl now, so she could be sent to a redemption mission and help spoil Teridax's plans, but after meeting the Mata Nui on Bara Bagna slowly admits her past mistakes, starts to realise that maybe it's better to let go of her past self and really change )
@Garmagic2yFhenrakh94 жыл бұрын
@@mehwhatever9726 Dayum, that is a lot of good story/fanfic material 👌
@dagur5003 жыл бұрын
Berex... whatever his name is, reminds me of shaggies voice
@Cakeandguts3 жыл бұрын
2:48 Does this remind anyone else of that scene in Rick and Morty of Rick and the dragon.
@MataNui. Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised this was an honest debate.
@zafool49973 жыл бұрын
it’s frocking weird how many voices actors I’ve heard in different shows over the years...
@MonkeyWithNoBomb4 жыл бұрын
why does Sidorak look like he has a KauKau?
@honestmistake81674 жыл бұрын
well, sidorak and roodaka are not of the matoran species, so it's not really too out there to say that sidorak is a simp-orak. matoran love wasn't canon for the matoran species, but greg never specifically stated that ALL beings in the MU could not feel emotions like love. if im wrong, tell me.
@Sporkmanb3 жыл бұрын
actualy the glatorion and agori can feel those feelings
@transformersfan500okane3 Жыл бұрын
Greg: Love isn't Canon............................. JUST KIDDING
@dafoex Жыл бұрын
I always felt that the "love isn't canon" remark was more about relationships being driven by Unity, equivalent to a "platonic" relationship as people say nowadays. Partly because it's a toy line for kids, but mainly because robots can't really have sex (unless you ask the furry fandom, but let's not go there).
@mechanwhal65903 жыл бұрын
Is Hewkii a tsundere?
@Good1002 жыл бұрын
0:16 bonk
@estelagarcia4861Ай бұрын
0:17
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын
Why wasnt a speedrun of Bionicle heros included? that game is so not canon it hurts.
@nikajinpusno95633 жыл бұрын
You forget that Bionicle was a storyline for kids. That’s why there is no romantic love, no sex. The most you show in that regard, if at all, is someone holding hands or a relationship that is purely abstract and symbolic, without any deep meaning (just like a child would perceive love). I don’t get why everyone so badly wants there to be romantic love in Bionicle lol. Especially considering that Bionicle primarily targeted boys...
@JM642 жыл бұрын
We're at a point where most people that had bionicle as kids are either adults or teenagers (G2 didn't do that well last I checked) If they want to ship characters together they have every right to at this point
@nikajinpusno95632 жыл бұрын
@@JM64 Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
@ZachStone3213 Жыл бұрын
And then there's Roodaka, who awakened quite a few things in a lot of people.
@nikajinpusno95633 жыл бұрын
Turaga Onewa: *sigh*
@dweeb10183 жыл бұрын
I dont care Hukii x Maku Forever
@galiasvirtual40784 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me? Who is Greg anyway?
@dawnbreaker5084 жыл бұрын
Greg Farshtey is known basically for being the guy who wrote a lot of the lore and such
@galiasvirtual40784 жыл бұрын
@@dawnbreaker508 thanks.
@TheCakesCup263 жыл бұрын
He said love between MATORAN isn’t cannon anymore. So anything that isn’t a matoran can still feel love.
@cousinfilmsltd77013 жыл бұрын
I'm lost, how are these non-canon? and who's Greg?
@InitialPC3 жыл бұрын
Greg served a huge role in shaping Bionicle, he wrote most of the material and lore, his word is considered law when it concerns canon
@cousinfilmsltd77013 жыл бұрын
@@InitialPC Ah thanks. Guess he should've kept a closer eye with these things xD. When did he say love wasn't canon and where?
@InitialPC3 жыл бұрын
@@cousinfilmsltd7701 Honestly I don't know lol.
@TheCakesCup263 жыл бұрын
@@cousinfilmsltd7701 Well, to clear up confusion, Sidorak isn’t a matoran so he can feel love / attraction. and the glatorian/igori can still feel love because they are basically humans. You could honestly say this is all still cannon, People can still have a very very passionate friendship but not be sexually attracted to each other whatsoever.
@dafoex Жыл бұрын
@cousinfilmsltd7701 it was around the time of the Bohrok animations, specifically the bit where Hewkii and Macku nearly kiss. He said something along the lines of "love between matoran doesn't exist in the human sense". I personally interpreted that as relationships being driven by the virtue of Unity, a "platonic" love in more human terms, but there wasn't really a notion of romance to Matoran. Of course people just say "Love Isn't Canon" for the memes.
@SilvuddyPkmnMusic Жыл бұрын
Confirmed: Onewa hates romance
@legoawcstopmotioner94354 жыл бұрын
What part was that at the beginning?
@EmCeeDrue4 жыл бұрын
Scenes from the Mata Nui Online Game and MNOLG 2.
@Belicure4 жыл бұрын
Is friendship not canon either?
@mehwhatever97264 жыл бұрын
The frendship is cannon, but can friendship really be possible without love? Can unity be possible? Unlikely.
@dafoex Жыл бұрын
@mehwhatever9726 there is the notion of a "platonic" relationship, people who deeply care for each other but are otherwise not romantically or sexually interested in each other. Greg never actually said the words "love isn"t canon", it was more "matoran don't have the same idea of love as humans do" or words to that effect. Unity is still possible without love or even without friendship, and could even stem from an ideal of Duty (I stand with these people not because I like them, but because it is my duty to look out for them) a mindset that might be held by a soldier or a doctor, who protect or care for people that cannot do so themselves.
@djt08031996Ай бұрын
Tahu and Gali feel kind of... out of place here
@anyderrosek92724 жыл бұрын
It's so much. Just...to much
@cathleenmoyle1476 Жыл бұрын
Not canon huh? Like I give a sh*t.
@ERICROJO1563 жыл бұрын
Greg is not canon.
@Legonathan1004 жыл бұрын
The whole love being non canon according to Greg, makes no sense to me, in my book, Love is a thing in reality
@toavolans59854 жыл бұрын
Romance doesn't exist for matoran/toa/turaga simply because they have no need for it, they're biomechanical constructions who were created by a mysterious race of beings. They literally just don't have kids, and they weren't made to have them either. Agori and glatorian do have the capacity for romantic feelings because they are organic beings who reproduce biologically, and existed for millennia prior to the existence of the Matoran Universe. Besides, not allowing romance means BIONICLE got to skip a lot of the useless love triangles and other plotlines that other kid franchises /love/ to pursue, just look at Ninjago.
@Legonathan1004 жыл бұрын
Toa Volans no love? Then where does Gali and Nokama’s ability to love her people and Toa I wonder, and Sidorak has the Boner for Roodaka I wonder? Even Cybertronians have the ability to love and they’re Biomedical beings aswell.
@toavolans59854 жыл бұрын
@@Legonathan100 no ROMANCE, not no love. Brotherly love still exists. Romance is a specific subset of love and that is what is not canon. Also, Sidorak and Roodaka are two separate species and most of what we see between them is from the Miramax movies. The Miramax movies are some sort of loose canon, and romantic stuff got added in because movie. Greg has said himself that "marriage" within the Matoran Universe was a power agreement rather than a romantic thing. The Miramax movies being soft-canon is also why Matau tells Nokama that he would go on a "romantic drive-fly" with her. It was added in because "haha kids movie-" it's a non-canon exchange. Lastly, just because one franchise has certain natural laws does not mean every similar franchise must adhere to those same laws.
@Legonathan1004 жыл бұрын
Toa Volans I don’t think it matters anymore since this franchise is dead, so it’s up to us to decide now!
@nolanschotanus27693 жыл бұрын
There needs to be more gay bionicle. Pohatu can't carry it all by himself.
@swaller10533 жыл бұрын
How is Pohatu gay???
@nolanschotanus27693 жыл бұрын
@@swaller1053 ok first? The thigh gap. Second? Mata Nuis gender ratio for men is 5:1 so there are statistically more gay guys than you'd think.
@loganh46423 жыл бұрын
Beginning of the video had kopaka and tahu
@nolanschotanus27693 жыл бұрын
@@loganh4642 kopaka really be like "hey wanna touch swords" and tahus really like "FINALLY"
@loganh46423 жыл бұрын
@@nolanschotanus2769 he was waiting for the longest time
@phuthanhau8523 жыл бұрын
Vakama x roodaka kind of like mother and son but to me, its not cannon, its cute and sweet although to people its wrong. Love foever!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍