That was the most in-depth video that I’ve seen regarding the differences of a real and fake knife. Nicely done.

Guys check the liners as well. I had a local shop that sold me a fake. They took it back hesitantly. I sent a buddy of mine there a few days later to see if they took the fakes off the shelf and they didn't. The liners on the real ones have small what I'm assuming are alignment spikes so the liners nest inside the g10. The fakes usually don't have those. Great video but my only concern is now they are also watching this and taking notes. That shop that sold me mine closed down a few months later. Asshats!

I can tell mine by the axis lock and the "GANZO" written on the blade.

Hi Guys; I can't thank you enough for this video! I just won a Para 2 on ebay and before I sent payment, I happened across your video and the knife I "won" had ALL the telltale signs of a fake you described, I contacted the seller with this info and he cancelled the transaction, no questions asked. Stay safe!!

Think the next thing is get Cedric & Ada to do a cut test with real vs fake S30V Spyderco steels.

This video just put my mind at ease that the PM2 I received today from Amazon is the real deal. Thank you!!! 😀

Great job guys! The unrehearsed nature and super close-ups added considerably.. It was almost like a play-along. Most helpful real vs fake I´ve come across.

Thank you @BirdShot IV! You provided peace of mind to the whole knife community! Those guys are sneaky. Love you guys.

Thanks for the knowledge. I checked for these things when I got my Lil Native the other day. Have a great day !

Nice work on highlighting the differences between a real and fake PM2! I never realized you could emial for repain if you break a fake.

Awesome video, very informative. Need more videos like this if warranted. Thanks. Tony

Buy Blade HQ or similar to avoid this.

Best video out there regarding fakes to this day...Great job!

This is the best service you guys can provide. Seriously! I’m so paranoid about getting counterfeits but am oddly intrigued by them.

Great catch guys !

pivot and pocket clip screws are not centered on the fake. also check out the spyder on the blade under a magnifying glass, the fake looks like it is lasered weirdly.

Wow....thats great info guys!! Thanks for sharing!!

Great stuff guys thanks for posting!!!

Awesome comparison. Thank you.

Thank you for this helpful and informative video. The PM2 has got to be one of the most counterfeited knives ever. Fakes have even made their way into Amazon's inventory.

Very informative, thanks! 😎

that was awesome, there's a gun/knife show here in upstate, South Carolina in early October. I planned to pick up a few more Spyderco's so i feel a little more prepared after this especially buying from a show. Ty guys.

Thank you both for this video. Just bought my first Spyderco Paramilitary 2. (Just bought this with money from my mom for my birthday). I used this video to check mine out before I bought mine even though I bought it from a reputable dealer. Thank you.

Thank you, I spend quite some cash in it to import and I was worried it could be fake, glad it isn't or its the best fake I have ever seen, it matches the real one perfectly.

GREAT Work THANKS Y'all 👍

This is really funny, I have 3 PM2's, 2 are fake, and I have the boxes for all 3. 1 of the fakes is IDENTICAL to yours in terms of discrepancies - every difference you pointed to is exactly the same on mine (mine is black hardware & blade with digital green camo scales though) The other is a worse fake... Clip holes for tip-down only, much thinner blade stock, smaller spider hole etc One of the boxes is identical to your fake with the triangle nose on the spider & the same misspellings, however it looks like it never had a sticker on it. The other box looks the same as my real box except for a few TINY differences, honestly I think its a real box from whoever had it before me, not that I care about the box I bought the fakes together from a thrift shop here in Perth, Australia, whoever is making the fake in your video really gets around! I'll also add: The spine of the blades on my fakes are not perfectly flat, they are a little concave tip-to-spyderhole Both my fakes also have much rounder edges on the scales which honestly feels nicer in the hand than the real one & the actions are pretty good, don't judge by how they feel, judge by the details!

thanks for this video, I just bought an Endura 4 through Amazon and I have a little concern if it is fake or not... but didnt know what to look for to really know for sure... Now with this vid i have some tips ! I am starting to build my collection of folders and some fixed blades... I am becoming a enthusiast with this... Already have around 20+ knives between Spydercos, Kershaws, CRKTs, Benchmade, Kizer, Case, Rough Rider, Ka Bar, Gerber, QSP, ESSE, Victorinox and SOG... more to come

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="466">7:46</a> "careful with that tip it's digging in me" that's what she said

I got a fake from Amazon a while back. I had to do some real internet sleuthing to find all of the clues for the fakes. Thanks for posting this. On mine, Eric’s maker’s mark was in a weird place too and was partially covered when closed. Also, the shape of the relief in the right side scale for accessing the compression lock is different on the fakes - more sharp corners, where the real ones transition very smoothly from the rest of the spine. The edges of the G-10 on the fakes tend to be smoothed over (as if sanded to round them), where the real ones actually have more crisp corners. Angle of the jimping on the thumb ramp of the blade is different with the fakes too - the angle actually changes in comparison to the blade on the real ones to maximize grip on your thumb to keep it from sliding forward. I know what to look for now, but if mine wouldn’t have come in the wrong model from Amazon (plain black instead of blurple that I ordered), I could easily have been had. It was my first PM2, so I probably wouldn’t have even looked into it. Never thought it would happen to me. Lesson learned.

Awesome video, thank u!!

Great video. Its nice to see a woman that has a passion for knifes!

"SPyderco" instead of Spyderco on the text in second box of writing on back of the box. Awesome finds!

Hey, youse twos! It was so awesome meeting and hanging out with you at the Gun Show! I know I enjoyed showing my guns off, Hahaha! Frankie, I didn't think about it before I left but I remembered that Bird said you wanted the Microtech I bought from Brad. If you can't find another one I'll sell you mine. I should have offered while we were together. However, I was STAR STRUCK! What can I say? You two are so awesome!

Thank you guys for this video! It will definitely save alot of people alot of hard earned money. BTW I just bought a boker kalashnikov 74 in S30V last night because of your guys's as always awesome, informative videos so thank you again for that!

I’m looking to buy my first Spyderco. Thanks for the awesome video, I know how to spot a fake now!

Super helpful. This is the type of scrutiny to use when buying from a questionable source. And I spotted the other fake-box typo Mr. Crumbly noted below: "derect" instead of "direct" inquiries.

Thanks guys! Great work. I ran down and checked all my boxes. Thank God not one fake!

The wide silver swoosh above the spider is very muted on the fake, with just a thin line on the right side that is bright silver. Below the spider, the wide silver swoosh match. Swooshes. Easy to pick out the fake in the lineup if you know this.

This was a good video, nice eye!

Well done guys for exposing this guys,. A very interesting video!

Nice video guys. I'm waiting on my PM2 today, I have other Spyderco's but I dont have another PM2 to compare it to. Any tips for comparisons with other Spyderco's?

IMO this is your best video ever. Because this kind of crap really hurts the makers and the buyers. I never would have been able to tell if I had a fake PM 2. But when I buy a Para 2 you can bet I will go over it like a hawk. Thanks for the lesson.

So very well done... awesome guys!!!

Thanks! Great video. Now I will be able to tell without having a real one to compare to.

Great video super helpful thanks for letting us know Wow 😯 I am totally amazed Bravo thanks Best Regards

Great stuff!! Thank you!

I worry about all my eBay auction wins after watching these videos. Thank you. I see the passion you both have. Btw, the garbled, janky English on the box, paper, and blade have been tell-tale signs of fakes, but the counterfeiters are catching on. I am sure some private, online resellers are finding genuine boxes, too, to pass counterfeits as originals.

Thanks for the info guys 🤙🏼

The screws are the most obvious. You were absolutely right. Real almost looks like a circle cut into the screw, and then maybe a fraction of a mm below that circle, the star pattern starts. Possibly the inside of the star pattern is rounded, not angled.

Thanks for the video. I didn't realize the stripe showed under the spider. And yes, all of my boxes do that and they have a spidey nose!

Very nice and detailed comparsion, guys! I don't own a PM2, but do have the Spyderco Persistence and the Byrd Robin 2. I'm no expert, but while the Robin 2 feels like a decent knife, IMHO, it doesn't come close to the obviously higher-quality Persistence, despite the substantial size/functionality differences. As for blade "play", my Robin 2 seems fine from a layman's viewpoint, however, I can detect a very slight "wiggle" if I really try to move it side-to-side. Also, I've seen other videos of the Robin 2 that show it with steel liners inside the plastic handle, whereas my model is just a screw-down plastic ​@t does have the metal back lock with the Boye notch, and the box it came in does have the thicker foam in the box. The blade steel text (byrd 8Cr13MoV) seems just printed on, rather than stamped or etched, so I hope that's not an indication of a fake. I was wondering if you can tell by this description if my Byrd Robin 2 is the real deal or not. Thank you!

Thanks you two. Well done! I'm glad to be at the point, in my knife life. That I'm only buying Sprint Runs, and Exclusives now. That sure helps, to avoid this kind of thing. I'll keep an eye out though! 👍🔪🍺😎

great. you 2 got me going thru all my boxes like i'm treasure hunting. 😁

Thanks guys, im not the guy to buy PM I flipped a few of them and its not the type of knife i like, but i do not buy copies or clones, its good to see this on your channel, it might help a lot of people

I have done these comparisons too and the variations in the fakes have lessoned. I have seen where the screws are more inline with Spyderco screws. There are variations the have persisted, such as the lack of a second milled out hole and small notch at the bottom of the non-lock liner of the fake. I avoid purchasing products with known fakes unless I am dealing with an authorized vendor.

Thanks guys great info

Another good vid. Learn so much from you folks. How to spot a fake, the burr bird and how live of of pb&j and ramen noodles. 😉 And can't forget about all the innuendos. What can't you learn here lol 😋.

Now I'll be rechecking my Spydie box. I saw another video a while back describing the differences in the boxes and have assumed my Delica is genuine. I'm 99% sure it is, but I'll now double check.

I'm pretty sure that the divot on the spider's face is supposed to be a tribute to the original spyderco product, the sharpmaker. the triangle is the same shape as their Sharpmaker sharpening rods.

Still haven't been able to get a PM2 yet. Really like the design.

Damn bird fam. 21k subs👍u two make a good team. Comedy amd blades. And #puglove

Great PSA for the knife community!! So cool that you went to all the effort for that box comparison. Btw, "Repain" is a real word... I get it every time that I speak with my ex!! 😉

Great video. I bought a manix 2xl off Amazon I always thought it was fake because the swing but it's just a factory defect

the box is also different on the front. if you look at the white stripe on the front, the color fades along that streak more gradually. On the fake box the white line just ends just above the spyder logo.

Wow, I would have been duped. Thanks for the heads up

Mine and my dads PM2’s shipped either clips in the tip down position, but oddly enough both of our Para 3’s shipped with the clip in the tip up position, as I believe it should be.

I’m glad I have the Spyderco Factory Outlet nearby that fake was ugly ass hell, I also noticed the engraving colors immediately. Great comparison!

I knew of these fake attributes some time back. In fact, I researched the fakes before I ever bought a real one. Regardless, this is one of the best comparison/ revealing videos regarding counterfeits out there. Nice job F&B!

I just ordered one PM2 on a very popular and professional (French) website and will definitely check. Very thorough examination, very practical. But don't do too many of these videos, the copycats learn fast. I think the craftsmanship that goes into doing a good copy could be used in order to create, invent, develop, improve. Just saying.

I get mine tomorrow in the mail i will check all of this. Thanks. I bought mine from amazon, but the seller was sportco wholesale. So im assuming its a real knife becuz sportco is a outdoor retail store lol

6 speed manual!

When you make videos like this it helps them make counter-fits more like the real ones

Guys are you sure it's a fake and not that spyderco just hired benchmades qc team 😂😂😂

I also have bought a few fakes to compare them to my originals (Pingo, Delica4, PM2, Police, Manix2, P´Kal). The problem is, that most of the differences are only obvious if you have a real one to compare. Also the quality of the fakes sometimes is quite "good" and it´s not easy to differ them from an original. Used knives are also a problem, e.g. for the comparison of the texture of the G10 or the quality of the screws. But there are a few things, that are directly to see if you know where to look at (Para2 in this case): - the first one is, as you said, the incorrect writing on the blade or the box - the second one is the height difference of the bladeroot compared to the stop-pin (on the original the blade aways comes up with a slight curve up to the level of the stop-pin) - the third, as you mentioned, is the different building of the compression lock - the fourth is the laserprint itself - on the original you can always clearly read them, even if you look at an angle, while on the fakes the laserprint fades when you hold the knife in an angle Kind regards from Germany grizzly

Great video! Lets just hope the counterfeiters don't see it and correct their mistakes/errors.

It would be great to see the difference in performance too.

The triangle is a cross section of a sharpmaker rod. That's why it has that smaller triangle inside. Its the cut in the rod.

Oh! Who else noticed that the fake box typed “SPyderco” on the third-to-last line of the bottom paragraph @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="850">14:10</a>? I also couldn’t help but notice that the logos and different sections of text on the fake blade didn’t have their baselines aligned with each other... like some kind of bad, snaggle-toothed “HAppy Birthday” banner. Do the real boxes sometimes show some of the silver swoosh through the Spyder’s “nose hole?”

Great video

Thank you guys I just ordered my first para 2 from Amazon couple days ago. It’s going under microscope

I bought a PM2 on amazon and it turned out to be a fake. Luckily for me I purchased a PM2 on amazon a couple years earlier and I had that to compare it to. Right off the bat I could tell the blade shape was different. So I looked up videos about how to find a fake and it helped me tremendously! Thanks for making this video and in the end I got my money back on the fake PM2.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="825">13:45</a> I noticed the fake box has a lighter/brighter shade of red than the more darker shade of red on the real box.

Thanks I just bought a ps2 off Ebay now I will be able to make sure it's real. Great video

The best fake I’ve seen. They’ve ‘fixed’ some of the older tells. The pockets in the liners used to be different too. And the way the label numbers protrude into the barcode bars on genuine knives.

A couple of things to notice, one is on the box. If you notice the blade from the belly to the tip is dark on the fakes. The second thing that may not apply to this particular video but I know with the the Delica imitations The etched not stamped. Just throwing it out there.

Awesome info guys!!! Thank you for pointing this out. It's unreal how far they will go to counterfeit something. Was the one spyder a differnt color? Or was that juust the camera angle? Keep up the great work guys

On the back of the box under the release box spyderco is spell with a upper case P

Huge difference on the sharpened edge as well. Much smoother grind on the real.

FRANKIE is a GEM, plain and simple

They need to compare of real spydercos from 6 consecutive years

So cool.

I got a fake Military from eBay several years ago. Odd thing was it was someone's used beater knife. Dirty, dull missing a screw etc which i knew up front. I figured that's why it was only $75. It was very convincing and I didn't realize it was a fake until I had completely cleaned it up and sharpened it. Fortunately the seller took it back. I even got a fake Kershaw 1830 once. I can't understand why someone would counterfeit such a cheap knife. No more eBay knives for me. LOL

You can see the grain structure in the real one in the side blade profile. On the fake, no grains, it looks satin. I don't know if this may actually be the carbides and that's why

Don’t even have a PM2 and right off the bat I could tell which one was fake because of the blade shape

Incrível, me ajudou muito. Obrigado 🤘🏼🇧🇷

Hi Guy's!! Awesome Content as usual, that's why l stay away from EBAY n Amazon when it comes to knives, stay with places like Blade HQ n other knife company's you know!!! Thanxs for sharing!!! :-)

Thank you

The front makers mark has a different spacing on the V in the fake one in addition to the whole logo rotated slightly different. The rear makers mark has slightly different sizing and rotation. The real has a tighter W on the left side. The clip hardware are different colors. I bet if you tested the metal the fake is not really s30v.

Are there any Spydercos with yellow stickers on the box? My friend bought me a Tenacious and the box had a yellow sticker.

The exposed liners are different lengths on the real one too. The fake one they are both the same length. @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="323">5:23</a>