yeah at 26:05 his level of intelligence really showed

moderator seems very low level. Other than that these two guys had a pretty nice respectful debate

he's a numale

Yeah, seems like a real tool all around...@27:00, he acts like he's gonna punch the sound guy for the mic problems...nice guy.

@@FXtelepath he didn't get it through his thick skull that gold is a stable currency, and preservation of wealth

This moderator was as arrogant an individual as I’ve listened to. He’s yet another indication that this bubble has peaked. It’s nauseating listening to him.

Peter had to debate the moderator again (Michelle Makora 2.0) wtf 😄

Buy silver and you get both.

That's why printing dollars/ fiat currency like theres no tomorrow kills savings in dollars. The beauty of pricing things in gold is its stability over long times. But those in power don't like that. To corrupt/buy the system they need a never ending flow of fiat. Like a cancer they only grow bigger killing the body in the process.

@@1986rez41 No because then you could no longer use it as money. That is why Bitcoin doesn't work as money. Money should be neutral like a referee.Rich in the free market world you only get making a product everybody needs and selling it for the lowest price possible.

_"How many people got rich of Bitcoin? Raise your hand. And how many got rich of gold?"_ - Boneheaded response by the biased moderator.

@@1986rez41 lol silver, has done nothing for 11 years, even paladium has gone up 2-3x..

Sounds like you have trouble with people’s opinion!

@@KYLEnSTITCH Sounds like you believe in MMT & Santa

He actually said it!😆 Total 🤡

Yup. At least he understands not to put everything in Bitcoin though. Most crypto fanatics don’t understand that.

@@rchicks22 I don’t even understand how crypto works tbh. I been hearing data is the new money for a decade but I do think it’s a market super easy to manipulate. What you think a Ponzi scheme is? (To the people putting there whole heart into this new currency)

Seriously Peter obviously 🙄 touched a soft spot for the host .....when facts hurt SMH

Yeah, that host was obnoxious.

The host was an asshole, invite the guy and the insult him.

Didn't go the way he wanted as Gold won that debate so he got bitter.

I think he was intending for it to be friendly banter, but it came off petty.

Bitcoin maximalists are nucking futs. Def some Jonestown koolaid going around

Reminds me of the religious Prophet Michael Saylor with his constant shooting star btc space/time/btc changes you... talk to recruit.

@@ppg4667 Did you notice his wacky clothes? They try to emulate that peacock flash. That idiot Max Keiser does the same thing. They look like they just got in from some parallel woodstock reality. Who would in their right mind want to take investment advice from some acid tripping clown.

Actually, I find Brock Pierce to be one of the more reasonable BitCoin promoters I've listened to. Most of them completely write off gold as some sort of relic of the past, only seriously considered by 'technophobic Boomers'.

Yeah. They truly believe Bitcoin is the pinnacle of money, the "people's" money. Funny how the people that buy into this the most are also the ones who got in early. They would benefit the most from this dream of theirs. So a few early birds have thousands of Bitcoins and the vast majority can only afford a few Satoshi's? No thanks.

haha my thoughts exactly

bitcoin eats sh^t ;like the garbage who believe in it, just as these brain dead idiots (not Peter) belive in fiat

I heard NFT's are the new Bitcoin! Can we take them seriously?

😆😆😆

What about Bill Miller?

@TheGenZGuy Gold preserves your wealth, as peter and the other guy said. Even if you could afford to buy only an ounce or less of gold, it preserves that wealth even during times of inflation. You don't need to be rich to preserve your wealth.

Keeping your savings out of reach of grabby claws of government bureaucrats and rothschild banksters...

@TheGenZGuy Crypto and TSLA, plus increase your income and learn about househacking

8:46 is a close second.

Gold can be used as a safe savings vehicle in times of market mania. When bubbles burst and you have gold as a hedge, it gives one the opportunity to buy up markets at a very cheap price when the crash inevitably occurs.

Yea, moderator is a joke

What is the best book of all of peters. I don’t have time to read them all. Haha

@@57rumors Start with How a economy grows. Crash proof was my first. I also really like The Federal Mafia By Irwin Schiff.

Honestly his books aren't as good as his talks. If you want to read something Peter would def endorse I'd recommend "Economics In One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt.

He will be on the right side of the coin 🪙 when it lands

@@57rumors yea how an economy grows and why it crashes is a great and easy read too, and not that long. Lil funny as well.

When Peter Schiff argues against the value of Bitcoin by saying things like "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin," or "Bitcoins have no value to store," he's making a reference to a reality that doesn't exist. The fact is that "a Bitcoin" is no more real than "a unicorn." The only things that exist (insofar as the argument about the value of Bitcoin is concerned) are the people who use the Bitcoin protocol and the computers that run the protocol. Bitcoin isn't actually a thing, so when Peter says, "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin" he's referring to something ("a Bitcoin") as if it actually is a thing, which it's not! He might as well be saying "Bitcoin has no value because I can't do anything with my imaginary unicorn." The tangible, base-layer reality of Bitcoin is the humans and computers, and the next layer of reality is the values/attitudes of the humans and the protocols programmed into the computers. So, when Peter makes arguments about the value of Bitcoin, it's entirely INVALID to refer to the value of "a Bitcoin," and the VALID argument would have to be directed at that which actually exists, which is what I just described---the humans that are part of the Bitcoin network and their values, and the computers and their programming that operates the network. His assessment of value is only valid insofar as it is directed at those things which actually exists, otherwise his assessment is moot. Therefore, his assessment of value must be directed at the millions of working people who use Bitcoin, and the protocol written by Satoshi Nakamoto.

@@Andrew_2414 still a Ponzi scam lol

@Andrew C There are better ways to do that in the block chain for doing what you said. If that is your argument then there are other cryptos that do it better.

It's ironic they don't know what gold is while having had the periodic table in front of them for years. You'd expect people to know about atoms in 2022.

@@doubleaa658 False.

Also he is very unprofessional and disrespectful

For sure

It was his conference. It was also a Bitcoin conference. So he was very much on Brock's side, and I knew that would he the case going in.

@@peterschiff The man.

You must be new here. It's 2 against 1 in almost every debate I've seen with Schiff in it.

@@peterschiff Is Brock a Free Market guy ?

When you have an entire lifetime of experience showing that 1+1=2, it's hard to lose debates with those saying 1+Z=Purple "if we all just believe"

Peter loses these debates all the time. Brock is probably the worse debater and still held his own. I think Peter built a brand batching Bitcoin therefore will never accept its value.

Only in your dreams

I feel that usually the problem is they just scratch the surface and he uses the same answers. Some people use bitcoin for many things and that network effect develops real value, and I think digging into that would challenge his point of view. Love peter to death tbh

@@davidwright1001 There's dozens of cryptos that compete BTC and any could become more popular at any time. It is not a SCARCE unit of account. Useful? Maybe. Money? No.

Absolutely.

Wouldn't call him a moderator.

because the U.S. financial system is about to crash really bad...

because its suuper cheap now

@@juanmanuelpedrosa53 I agree Juan,However many countries will crash before the US due to their currency being backed by the US dollar.

Because gold is incapable of replacing them

Except that Peter Schiff makes an invalid argument. When Peter Schiff argues against the value of Bitcoin by saying things like "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin," or "Bitcoins have no value to store," he's making a reference to a reality that doesn't exist. The fact is that "a Bitcoin" is no more real than "a unicorn." The only things that exist (insofar as the argument about the value of Bitcoin is concerned) are the people who use the Bitcoin protocol and the computers that run the protocol. Bitcoin isn't actually a thing, so when Peter says, "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin" he's referring to something ("a Bitcoin") as if it actually is a thing, which it's not! He might as well be saying "Bitcoin has no value because I can't do anything with my imaginary unicorn." The tangible, base-layer reality of Bitcoin is the humans and computers, and the next layer of reality is the values/attitudes of the humans and the protocols programmed into the computers. So, when Peter makes arguments about the value of Bitcoin, it's entirely INVALID to refer to the value of "a Bitcoin," and the VALID argument would have to be directed at that which actually exists, which is what I just described---the humans that are part of the Bitcoin network and their values, and the computers and their programming that operates the network. His assessment of value is only valid insofar as it is directed at those things which actually exists, otherwise his assessment is moot. Therefore, his assessment of value must be directed at the millions of working people who use Bitcoin, and the protocol written by Satoshi Nakamoto.

Gold and silver run the blockchain. Without Gold and silver there is NO crypto. How do you produce computer processors without Gold and silver? How to you mine crypto without computers and processors? All these "experts" yet none can tell you who actually created bitcoin Could be created by the CIA for all the "experts" know. When you can tell me who created it then we will consider you an "expert". Also, crypto is a decentralized LIE. Only the computation are decentralized NOT the exchanges. Unless of course you know of a country that doesn't enforce local laws on computer servers? Even P2P is BS cos you still need a third party to complete transaction, by way of a hard wallet. holding Gold and silver are the only assets that have zero third party counter risk

Yeah, it’s absurd. It’s telling as it shows how these people have no clue about gold, mining, or money. They’re just desperate to argue for their Bitcoin position regardless of logic. I would like to hear the AISC of mining an asteroid though. It’s got to be tens of millions $ per ounce, if not hundreds. Can you imagine funding an exploration & drilling project in space?

@@rchicks22 🤣 ive never understood why they choosed this argument. Its already fucking hard to find a valuable enough mine to venture it. Like wtf? Mining in space? If we have to get there it means we fucked up every once on earth therefor reinforce the argument that gold is supreme.

@@rchicks22 that’s not even considering the amount of fuel they would have to take with them in order to slow down the payload of heavy elements enough to not crash into the earth at 20x the speed of sound.

@@huemann7637 exactly. NASA discards items in space for that very reason. It’s expensive to haul things back and forth. You can also consider the amount of money it would require to construct a mine on the asteroid. It’s pretty funny to think about honestly. The Bitcoiners just assume an asteroid covered with gold nuggets is going to be found any day now. They don’t realize that the asteroid has to be explored, drilled, studied, a mine has to be built, tons upon tons of rocks & dirt has to be dug up and then hauled back to Earth to sort through it for the gold. Maybe they’re assuming the astronaut miners will complete the entire refining process right on the surface of the asteroid. 😂

"There's gold in them there asteroids!" Lol

You're gonna have a conniption when you learn who Warren Buffet is

It may seem unbelievable, but the reason for Brock's success is fairly simple: perception - Brock possesses something (Bitcoin) that other people *perceive* as being valuable. His success rests on the social construct of the acceptance of Bitcoin as money. If nobody accepted Bitcoin, then people would probably not perceive it to be valuable. The same dynamic is true of the US dollar.

Exactly 💯

calling it an asset is overstating it, i like Peter's description "token"

@@Paz133 Yes, a game token. Lol If it was cheap, free, fast & secure to transact in, it would be great! If it was anonymous it would be even better. It's all speculation as a platform and it records your every exchange forever! Spooky- sounds like a govt & banksters wet dream. Lol

I wouldn't even describe btc as an asset.

@@kevkeary4700 I don't think anyone knows what to call it or how to classify it.

The fact he has to argue to convince people why something has no value - even though a lot of people think it does, speaks for itself. These "debates" make zero sense

I was gonna write a comment…..saw you beat me saying the same thing…..this guy made Peter look smart…..We need to unleash blockchain potential for REAL assets….i wanna start a local digital currency backed on land, water, organic produce etc…..Bitcoin has no more intrinsic value than fiat currencies….peters is right….we can just make a new blockchain and convince everyone to move over and make btc worthless

Not to imply Peter sniff isn’t smart….he’s sharp as hell

He forgot reimagining.

The guy is delusional

Agree

I have seen far more transactions being done with Ethereum. Many of the transactions are for digital art or the wacky NFT craze but still, at least there are some sort of transactions happening using ETH. Watching the goalposts move for BTC is hilarious to me, calling it "digital gold" is so ridiculous.

@@Ziegfried82 Like Peter, I heard about bitcoin very early on, like below 10 dollars. I REALLY wish I had a bought a bunch of it. But I didn't. Now it's not even useful as a currency, which was what I would have bought it for. It simply costs too much to transact in it. The second the central banks get tired of it, the governments will outlaw it and then it will be ENTIRELY confined to illegal activity because there will be no way to take it from virtual into the world because all the exchanges will be shut down. These cryptobugs REALLY underestimate the power of the state gun.

Using it for transaction right now

@@flyinbry good for you..I guess.lol

Gambling is only when you make bets when the odds are against you

Amen!

If you buy silver, you're buying a commodity that is undervalued with a price determined by its utilitarian demand. If you buy gold, you're speculating on the possibility of the future possible demand for its monetary properties. 50% of gold's value comes from people speculating on its monetary properties.

When Peter Schiff argues against the value of Bitcoin by saying things like "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin," or "Bitcoins have no value to store," he's making a reference to a reality that doesn't exist. The fact is that "a Bitcoin" is no more real than "a unicorn." The only things that exist (insofar as the argument about the value of Bitcoin is concerned) are the people who use the Bitcoin protocol and the computers that run the protocol. Bitcoin isn't actually a thing, so when Peter says, "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin" he's referring to something ("a Bitcoin") as if it actually is a thing, which it's not! He might as well be saying "Bitcoin has no value because I can't do anything with my imaginary unicorn." The tangible, base-layer reality of Bitcoin is the humans and computers, and the next layer of reality is the values/attitudes of the humans and the protocols programmed into the computers. So, when Peter makes arguments about the value of Bitcoin, it's entirely INVALID to refer to the value of "a Bitcoin," and the VALID argument would have to be directed at that which actually exists, which is what I just described---the humans that are part of the Bitcoin network and their values, and the computers and their programming that operates the network. His assessment of value is only valid insofar as it is directed at those things which actually exists, otherwise his assessment is moot. Therefore, his assessment of value must be directed at the millions of working people who use Bitcoin, and the protocol written by Satoshi Nakamoto.

Gold is a fool's money

Nothing about him seems nice to me. The only thing my gut says about him is, charlatan, con artist.

That’s how all of these bitcoin ppl act. Just lots of big warm and fuzzy buzzwords.

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Totally - the worst thing that can happen to a gambler is winning the first time he visits the casino.

Yes, basically they need more suckers to come to the event and to buy into cryptos.

Rapid growth implies extreme volatility. It comes with the territory and is expected by most people in the space. Bitcoin solves alot of monetary problems better than anything else out on the market, which is why it's grown so rapidly in the first place. Every time you buy something at a gas station with a card for example the gas station loses about 3% to visa or whoever, with bitcoin on the lightning network it's basically a free transaction and gets cheaper the bigger the lightning network grows Edit: that's just one example, another would be the extreme ease of portability. If you look up airport news a guy had his gold confiscated from his fart door at one last year and in america a woman had 20 thousand dollars stolen from her by cops at one. They posted the theft on social media so it should be easy to find. That can't happen with bitcoin.

@Ostia Hermes well said . It’s all been planned 👍

@Ostia Hermes yup . It’s all so obvious. Stay safe out there. Crazy times were in. God bless

Completely backwards actually, you think gold's monetary premium will come back instead of fade away like it has for all other monetized commodities.

The moderator was a complete idiot

I just prefer precious metals. If ppl want to invest in bitcoin that’s great. I hope you make tons. Me I just don’t have money to gamble with.

You could argue he is explaining economics rigth here. Unless you define economics as talking only about the fed and inflation.

@@ferror18 if you watched the video you'd hear the part where he was explaining value creation and supply and demand, and hardly about just the fed and such

​@@tomkuz_ Dude did I say he only talked about the fed?

Phones run on batteries, which can last for many weeks if it remains powered off when not in use. The only time a Bitcoiner would really be in trouble is if the whole world's power / internet goes down. And, in that case, you won't want gold or Bitcoin, you'll want a gun.

That is a poor argument. You should think of Bitcoin as internet money. Every country has it's own currency. Now the internet has it's own currency too. You still live in the 1800's without internet and electricity. I live in 2022 with a future with internet and electricity. Of course without the internet, there is no Bitcoin. But that's like saying without the USA there is no USD. Are you going to refuse Amazon and Google shares just because they can't work in a world without power and internet? In your electricity free fantasy world, there are no cars, no phones, no radios. Your world is stuck in the 19th century.

@@Andrew_2414 but i can buy a gun with the gold i have..

@@davidcolletti7136 Can you? Show me a gun retailer that prices their guns in grams or ounces of gold.

I almost died a few years ago in the ICU, was in a coma in 2017 saw some things, world wide deaths ( covid) and the elec power is going to not be dependable was another one.

This is exactly why other cryptos will supplant BTC in the long run. They need a purpose other than just hodling.

My bitcoin is storing my value/protecting my purchasing power. I can settle payments cheaply anywhere in the world, in real time....without providing any personal information. When I receive bitcoin, I know 100% that it's not counterfeit and can't be taken from me/lost if stored properly. Do you use digital banking? Is there any value in using those services? Imagine if you could have it all without them inflating the currency/controlling all of your purchasing power and data.... in fact, your purchasing power would be skyrocketing over the years lol. Would you say that service is "doing nothing" for you?

You can buy a coffee with it in el salvador where it's the national currency. You can send money to anyone in the world instantly with no wire fees and no bank approval necessary(still costs a penny or so to do this though) You can walk through airports without fear the police or security are gonna dig gold out of your rectum or steal 20 thousand dollars of your cash as happened last year to some people.

LOL

It's an accounting book basically, that keeps perfect score and can't be altered by bad actors. Gold was used as an accounting book for a long time and proved inadequate due to the inconvenience of carrying it around and bad actors who used its lack of transparency to fudge numbers leading to its eventual abandonment as an accounting book last century. It's a commodity now with dying interest in its accounting book properties and a slow bleed of the accounting book price premium it once had.

Yes, that’s true. They can’t refute the fact that there are 16,000 crypto’s and counting either. Brock’s a good salesman. He’s not an idiot though it doesn’t sound like. I’ll bet he’s cashed out plenty of his early Bitcoin money.

@@rchicks22 Any tech company could make a facebook, twitter, or even youtube replacement, and many have tried, but none of them have succeeded. With bitcoin it's like trying to reinvent the wheel, bitcoin was designed right the first time, it's not dinosaur tech, it's just simple and boring. Developers who would have started up something to replace bitcoin already have bitcoin...so no one is seriously trying to replace it. Except maybe elon musk with doge coin, but that guy is also trying to replace trains with underground traffic jams

@@james3876 so your argument is that Ethereum, Solana, Cardano, XRP, Terra, Avalanche, BNB,wrapped Bitcoin, and any crypto’s created 10, 20, or 50 years from now are all basically worthless because Bitcoin was first and it will always be the best?

@@james3876 bitcoin is simply the biggest bubble and will eventually pop. Just like our old first edition charizards that are no longer selling for hundreds of dollars lol. Because both share a few things in common: they're both part of a popular fad. And they serve no real purpose... But to be fair, at least a pokemon card js real.

False. When Peter Schiff argues against the value of Bitcoin by saying things like "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin," or "Bitcoins have no value to store," he's making a reference to a reality that doesn't exist. The fact is that "a Bitcoin" is no more real than "a unicorn." The only things that exist (insofar as the argument about the value of Bitcoin is concerned) are the people who use the Bitcoin protocol and the computers that run the protocol. Bitcoin isn't actually a thing, so when Peter says, "I can't do anything with a Bitcoin" he's referring to something ("a Bitcoin") as if it actually is a thing, which it's not! He might as well be saying "Bitcoin has no value because I can't do anything with my imaginary unicorn." The tangible, base-layer reality of Bitcoin is the humans and computers, and the next layer of reality is the values/attitudes of the humans and the protocols programmed into the computers. So, when Peter makes arguments about the value of Bitcoin, it's entirely INVALID to refer to the value of "a Bitcoin," and the VALID argument would have to be directed at that which actually exists, which is what I just described---the humans that are part of the Bitcoin network and their values, and the computers and their programming that operates the network. His assessment of value is only valid insofar as it is directed at those things which actually exists, otherwise his assessment is moot. Therefore, his assessment of value must be directed at the millions of working people who use Bitcoin, and the protocol written by Satoshi Nakamoto.

@@Andrew_2414 NO ! Bitcoin can´t provide what you trying to implement into it .... the moment you give someone the bitcoin ... you can´t guarantee that it has the same Value before the transaction and after it. It is still nothing..... you can´t touch it ... it isn´t real. Again it has a PRICE ... but it has NO VALUE ... LIKE FIAT... Fiat also has no Value .. that´s why you change it to Gold or other REAL assets.

@@tezcatlipoca6336 There is no such thing as "a bitcoin" or "the bitcoin," so it's invalid to make the argument that a bitcoin has no value. You might as well be telling me that the flying spaghetti monster has no value. It doesn't exist, so how can you say it has no value? The only thing you can say is that it doesn't exist. Or "a bitcoin is not." Nice try, though.

@@Andrew_2414 Yeah but at the end you don´t want or can´t pay your bills ... with a spaghetti Monster ... even if you wanted to.

@@tezcatlipoca6336 ??? I never said you could.

And I'm pretty sure those on earth witnessing an asteroid landing will be the last thing they observe. Ask the dinosaurs. And if it's small enough with some gold on it, I'd definitely pay big Money to get an ounce!

Gold and silver are used in all of our tech, That cell phone you own gold, tv you watch gold that laptop you want to buy gold, Bitcoin isn't used to build tech you need gold to mine bitcoin realistically.

But, you also have to accept the fact WHEN not IF, humanity has the technological capabilities and efficiency to make those type of exploits that gold is not really scarce at all. When people try to defend the "It's too expensive to mine on asteroids" bit, negate that mankind continues to evolve in technology.

Thank you I'm glad you see this stupidity as well LOL

@@islandbee But the very idea that we would need to mine it on asteroids implies that it's extremely valuable, and that we are running out of it here on Earth. It's completely circular logic to say that mining it on an asteroid would devalue it.

Exactly! They're too young to see that unfortunately

They were saying the same thing about the internet in the 90s.

That's what I was thinking! He's TWEAKING!

Peter's a treasure

Or it may replace the dollar.

@@user-gh1vc9kb4eno chance

The crackhead in the hat makes this pretty unwatchable

@@ppg4667 lol! The Bitcoin cult leader from fantasy island, he’s got lasers beams in his eyes.

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WHAT?

It is technically true. The same dynamic applies to the US dollar - digits in your bank account are intangible and yet you value them anyway. This is because you operate on the perception that merchants are willing to provide you with goods/services in return for your dollar digits. Apparently, there are enough people who hold the same perception about Bitcoin.

Bitcoiners value reality, not fiction, that’s precisely why they own Bitcoin. The fundamental reality that matters is human society-how it organizes itself, how it interacts with itself and its environment. The integrity of human society is at stake, and that’s why Bitcoiners value Bitcoin so much. There is no belief in fiction, just raw, down to earth reality.

@@Andrew_2414 Hi Andrew, thanks for the reply. I too believe that humanity is at stake, so I hope you right about Bitcoin having the power to purify the system.

Buy gold preserve what you earn instead of gambling is my take.

@@cainejackson8003 if you don't want to gamble buy copper or silver, not gold. The majority of gold's value comes from speculation on its monetary properties.

The US dollar was once a currency backed by gold...and look what happened to that. Peter and his wonderful sons could only guarantee 1:1 backing during their own lifetimes. Another worthless currency with fraudulently fractional backing is NOT a "real legacy."

Why own crypto backed by gold when you can own gold directly. If you don't hold it, you don't own it. Crytos are decentralized, meaning no one will be responsible when you can't cash out your crypto for gold, even though they claim it's backed by gold. History has shown when it comes to gold, institutions and their Governments can and will take your gold and run away with them. So that is why people who have been through the Great Depression always tell their kids and grandkids, get physical gold not paper gold.

Big foot happens to be real with great intelligence......very insulting.

Gold isn't gonna pop so much as slow bleed/pump less as more people catch on. Expecting a pop is unrealistic

I hear ya, but did the internet start as what it is today? The 1st human village turned into NYC metaphorically. On the flip side, that 1st village no longer exists

Gold and silver run the blockchain. Without Gold and silver there is NO crypto. How do you produce computer processors without Gold and silver? How to you mine crypto without computers and processors? All these "experts" yet none can tell you who actually created bitcoin Could be created by the CIA for all the "experts" know. When you can tell me who created it then we will consider you an "expert". Also, crypto is a decentralized LIE. Only the computation are decentralized NOT the exchanges. Unless of course you know of a country that doesn't enforce local laws on computer servers? Even P2P is BS cos you still need a third party to complete transaction, by way of a hard wallet. holding Gold and silver are the only assets that have zero third party counter risk

They move the goalposts and it's hilarious. I sold my BTC years ago no regrets, bought several different "shitcoins". I agree with you about the privacy oriented crypto! Also no crypto will ever replace gold as a defensive asset.

Ramire7Heavenz- No, the internet started out as a open and censor free arena. Now it's a prison. Bitcoin is to chain you into that prison. You're sowing the seeds of your own enslavement.