Genuinely shocked, that range is sheeeeet!

Nobody: Bjorn: Asian driver = same weight as bridge stone tire

Thanks alot for putting all results in description 👍

As a live stream follower, it's actually funny how you do the "KZfaq shots", which became this great video :)

Love your videos. In part from your reviews, I decided to pickup an e-tron for myself. Great car!!

Awesome video Bjorn! Thank you!

Need to borrow an EQC next Bjorn! Need to check out the motor efficiency vs model X and Etron. Excellent test as always!

great test, thanks Bjorn

What a beautiful ev - grey with black wheels looks very cool

This colour is amazing

Thanks great reporting 👍

Cheating in an Audi is allowed lolol :-)

Bjorn according to Audi the E-Tron uses a pair of induction motors. I think a big chunk of the inefficiency comes from bad aerodynamics and increased tire width to compensate for higher weight.

nice review bud

I did a similar video of the consumption test at 130 kmh on the German Autobahn and 85 behind a track. I had similar consumption. And everybody complained that I try to make this car look bad. I used Dynamic Mode though.

Audi e-Tron uses two induction (asynchronous) motors exactly like your P90D. The I-Pace indeed uses 2 PM motors

@Bjørn Nyland : Did you check the tire pressure before you did the range test? What was the reading? Thanks.

Bjorn... When will you get hold of an EQC?

Björn May you have some idea about How high the vampire drain in etron Is?

Thanks Bjørn, nice to see unbiased reviews. Yes, cheating and Audi go hand in hand.

The e-tron has an asynchronous motor on the rear axle - no permanent magnets :)

Today I was able to drive my e-tron 55 Sportback from Berlin nearly to Köln without charging. After 536 km with 6% SoC I arrived at Ionity. This was a consumption of 14,3 kWh/100km at an average speed of 79km/h. Climate Eco 20 C.

Love the spec. on this e-tron. The seats. Alloys. Can you please give me more details about the spec of this car as I’m interested in buying one. Thank you in advance. Take care

Rather have the Jaguar i Pace than the Audi, it’s more efficient and better looking, in 18-19 degrees I am getting approx 220 miles (356km) out of my Jaguar i Pace - First Edition Model with 22”” wheels, it’s a great car but I have decided to go back to a Tesla Model S (Which I had before) simply because the UK charging network is rubbish and simply too slow at charging, especially important when doing long distance. The Tesla was as easy as owing a petrol car, very very easy to travel large distance and very fast charging - stress free! Until the UK has a proper fast charging network, the other car brands simply cannot compete with Tesla, it’s simply too stressful, slow and complicated using the UK’s erratic charging systems when traveling larger distances - pity because I prefer my Jag over the Tesla as a car - anyway the Jag is going up for sale :(

Correction: 2 asynchronous motors. Front motor is switched off

Could you please fake that you've started doing Nimber tasks again? We really miss that 🙏⚡

ETron cw: 0,28 MX cw: 0,24 Difference of ~15% Thats more or less the difference in consumption at 120 kmh

For best drafting, you get 93% drag reduction at a distance of 2 feet. Good luck.

How do you do all that driving. I just went to Las Vegas and back ( to LA), about 590 miles, and doing this once or twice a year is about enough for me :) Great videos :)

@14:00 I also thought e tron uses PM motors, but it uses 2 induction motors, with the front one smaller than the rear, similar to original Model X. Perhaps they should have uses a PM front motor with Silicon Carbide front inverter like the model S/X refresh does, because the e tron is expensive.

Did a test on the same stretch of road with my E-tron today. - 21" wheels with 3.0/3.2 bar. - Outside temp was between 20-21°C. - 20km/h wind from the south (according to the cars weather app). - Efficiency mode. - AC on ECO at 21°C. - Alone in the car. Drove from Shell Ås and turned around at Sarpsborg Hospital, exactly 100km round trip. First run I set the ACC at 93km/t with maximum distance to the car in front, second run same settings but at 123km/h (equal to 90 and 120km/h at GPS). Result @ 90km/h: Ø20,7kWh/100km. Result @ 120km/h: Ø27,5kWh/100km. What could be the reason for the different result compared to Bjørns test? Does not look like the wind was any stronger on the day he did his test. I have driven the car close to 7000km now. Looks like the car Bjørn tested had only done 5-600km when he started the test? Could this have any impact on the consumption?

Bridgestone Alenza 001 255/50 R20 109H XL AO has B/A/72dB label, so those tires aren't that bad efficiency-wise.

Both the Kona and Ioniq use permanent magnet motors and the are very efficient. A PM motor should free wheel well if care is taken to reduce eddy currents. PM motors are perfect for regen.

Maybe with an update software will can set up the two engine more efficiency.

Bjorn. What is your range expectation on the just recently mentioned E-tron 50? Could you comment on that?

If you get the e-tron you should call it Megatron

I'd like to see a range test with the new Tesla model S

I think the points you made about permanent magnet electric motors always being on compared to induction motors being able to be switched off and just "free wheel" was an important difference between the e-tron and the Model X. In the Model X when cruising at 90-120kph only the front motor is being used and that would improve efficiency.

Bjorn, your idea about permanent magnet motors not being able to switch off is probably wrong. Afaik they use permanent magnet only on one pole (stator OR rotor), so current through other pole determines magnetic induction. Permanent magnet motors are more efficient since one pole doesn’t need current. Another thing: I have tested my Jaguar I-pace on 90 and 130 (22” wheels, in comfort mode). It is slightly more efficient than e-tron.

Came for Sheeeeeit, and instead got Chit!

Is summer already in Norway & Sweden? There is still spring in the rest of Europe ;-)

what specs of the rims/tyres make more rolling and wind resistence? The rim size or the width of the tyres? Can you please tell us your knowledge?

it appears that the screen has a very noticeable lag... from watching you switch between different driving modes

How much would the consumption increase or decrease if the test was done at 28-32 degrees C? And I don't think this test can be classified as a true Norwegian summer test - according to official data the typical summer temperature in Oslo is 22.3C (this test was 14-19) 😁. With the Kona last summer it was around 25-30 degrees outside when you did the tests.

please do a video and test of BMW i3 . Thank you !

Drag coefficient of the MX = 0.25... But e-tron is 0.27 ... that might have something to do with the consumption when tailing the truck.

“Cheating in an Audi...hum...it is allowed, right?!” Ahhaha. Funny.

I don't mind watching something about other manufacturers EVs once in a while in between Tesla videos but just curious have you found any obscure company creating a car that can actually come close to Tesla or would any true competition to Tesla possibly appear in at least a decade if ever?

The dash screen is very reflective. Why it doesn't have any side covers? Efficiency should matter for many people because the driving cost depends on it. If you can charge a Model X and an e-tron for the same price, MX will be cheaper because it will drive 15-30% more. And in some cases that can make the e-tron more expensive than an ICE car.

Bjorn: what kind of tires does your Telsa Model X and the e-tron used? Are they low rolling resistance tires? I don't have data, but I felt the e-tron has a higher drag coefficient than the Model X. Finally is it true that Model X has an suspension system that can lower the body at highway speed, which will significantly reduce drag. Does e-tron have a similar feature?

Over 300w/h at 120kmh! See this is why I personally think a 300kw motor makes no sense.

He won’t get bills even if he doesn’t have autopass. The system detects that its an ev from the reg.

drivers door is very small. smaller than backdoors. loading height is crazy high too.

But why would you trust Google's calculation 08:52 over the car's one???

Should have done 120km test with Hvac off to see if inefficiency is with this.

You have to draft much closer. Not that it is a good idea.

Hello Bjorn, I think you are wrong, the e-tron have asynchronous motors, not permanent magnet motors.... "The electric drive motors in the Audi e-tron are asynchronous. The main components of each electric drive motor are the stator with its three copper windings (U, V, W), which are 120° apart, and the rotor (an aluminium cage rotor). The rotor transmits the rotational movement to the transmission unit. The air gap between the stationary stator and the rotating rotor is very small in order to achieve a high power density. The electric drive motor and the transmission are combined in a single axle drive unit. There are two different versions of the axle drive. The difference relates to the axial orientation of the motors. A parallel-axis electric drive motor (APA250) drives the wheels on the front axle. A coaxial electric drive motor (AKA320) performs this task on the rear axle. Each of the three-phase drives on the front and rear axles is connected to the body via a potential equalisation line"

Nobody: Me: hold up, I can make a tenuously relevant point on the internet TL;DR: the consumption will increase by about 3/4 * ((wind speed)/(vehicle speed))^2 for a realistic trip that finishes back where it started. Though of course the wind is anything but constant in strength so YMMV... A "there and back" route doesn't cancel out the wind's effect because air resistance goes as the square of (vehicle speed v + wind speed w). Energy consumption = force times distance, so to compare the two cases (when air resistance dominates) we have (v+w)^2+(v-w)^2 = 2v^2 + 2w^2 compared to 2v^2 with no wind. So the fractional extra consumption = (w/v)^2. In a 90 km/h test with 30 km/h head/tail wind, this comes to an increase of 11%, which isn't negligible. The impact of wind is smallest on a return trip with a sidewind, in which case the increase is 5% at w/v=0.33. If you drive in something approximating a circle, then (by integration) it's around a 7% consumption increase for w/v=0.33. Plotting various angles of there-and-back trips, and a circle, for various wind speeds, it turns out that a circle is very close to a 45-degrees-to-the-wind trip (no big surprise) and to about 3/4 of the simplest head/tail-wind case. Since no road is straight, and the wind direction varies, this is probably a semi-acceptable rule of thumb even in a there-and-back test like this. TS;WM: www.dropbox.com/s/3x174zbctzlmhmz/WindResistance.xlsx?dl=0

ètron😉

True story: "Etron" (prononced Hey-tron), in french, litterally means "turd". Don't wonder why they sell so few of them in France and in Quebec.

12:10 😂😂😂

Iedereen maakt zich zo ontzettend druk over actieradius. Als dat zo belangrijk voor je is, koop dan een Golf Diesel. Een bereik van 350 km met de e-tron is meer dan genoeg. En op langere ritten profiteer je van de ongelooflijk snelle laadtijd. Ook daarin is de e-tron kampioen. Hetzelfde geldt voor de afwerking en bouwkwaliteit. Daar kan geen Tesla tegenop.

How much overall altitude does the Trip have

Are the charging stations networked with the vehicle or do you need your phone to find charging stations?

Actually Bjorn, the permanent magnet in the motor doesn't mean that the motor can be turned off. As a matter of fact, this motor is more efficient than an induction motor ;)

We need a race between e-tron and MX100D!

Can someone explain to me how to derive the battery temperature of the audi etron?

Are the consumption figures including charging losses ?

You should do a last range test with Otimus Prime.

If PM motors have more resistance and less economy, then how come Tesla’s 2019 upgraded Ms and Mx have greater range than older versions while sill having a PM motor?

You don't say anything about the costs...what happens when the batteries worn out? In a diesel if the turbo goes out then you replace the turbo, in a reg engine a pipe bursts you replace the pipe which is not too much trouble but when the batteries for this E tron worn out then what? What would be the cost? How long these batteries run for before they go bust? 2 years? 3 years?

This is perfect electric SUV Car. The first Time I know about Audi E-Tron In Drive It Deutsche Welle

When are you going to test the EQC

The Audi's problem is not the motors. The Audi's problem is that it is a driving parachute. Aerodynamic disaster....

I think the southern route is more flat than the northern route so the effiency will be better, than on the ordinary northern route. The temperature will also be higher and the route have fewer bends. I think the brown leather seats looks awful, typical german bad taste.

at 11:40 is the display really so slow and unresposive when you clicked through the menus?

Hi Björn. So can you tell me what is the actual range on the etron at 120 km per hour. Thanks.

I will buy electric vechile only when they reach 1000km range in the toughest air conditions and the price is just 10k euros more than gasoline powered engines. When do you think it is gonna happend?

Can you show efficiency in miles/kWh? In UK that is what our cars are set to. I think you achieved 2.7 miles/kWh. My Kona generally does 4.5-5.0 miles/kWh.

6:39 You say 196km but the screen clearly reads 166

Just goes to show that EV battery evolution and motor efficiency is required urgently to make these vehicles appeal to the masses. It will happen its just that its still very early days. 1000Km per charge will one day happen within the next 5 years by someone. Remember the first mobile phones efficiency was poor and so were the features well same here for EV's Li-ion needs an upgrade to the next level and with a 20 year lifespan.

Do audi e tron have any sort of autopilot or driver assistance that resemble autopilot?

Should have run individual and lowered the chassi to minimum hight. Effeciancy doesnt seam to do that....

No ota updates, so it's not getting better consuption over the years!!!

I cant decide which is more disappointing.. The low-efficiency/mid low range of the expensive E-tron, Or the ignorance of Nissan releasing EVs without battery thermal management. smh. Its like the Chev Bolt Ev horrendous unbearable front seats and the Mitsubishi phev unfixed battery problems. etc, etc, See where I'm going with this? Conscious "designed to fail" attitude by some fossil fuel carmakers!? Disappointing result from an $80k+ vehicle.

Why no test on the charging speed? The charging is supposedly much faster than in other cars, and does not taper down as much as it nears full.

it seems it is not easy for legacy car maker to make electric car

Audi hat so ein hohen verbrauch, für das Geld was der kostet würde ich ein Model X oder Model S kaufen, der schafft 500 KM und kostenloses Supercharger eigenes Netzwerk nutzen kann....

Are you sponsored by Tesla ?

They put all the money/effort in the "Fit and finish and interior quality" instead of the powertrain. Pick your poison. Model S/3/X powertrain or any other EV "Quality/Fit/Finish."

Well it’s an ‘etron 😃

Model X is larger but the the Etron is heavier

On which EV You got the most range?

I know it's a matter of taste but to me the brown seats are ugly.

This is a car, not a yacht. worried about wind. Give up.

Look at YT Channel "dirk himmelmann". Much lower consumption. Any explanation?

You were way too far to draft behind this semi

Too far away for useful draughting. Also a slight crosswind can affect the effects.

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Did you buy this car,?