May God increase Ousi Rorisang❤ what a Gift she is
@snethembamaseko760314 күн бұрын
lol
@GMOB_Fresh9 ай бұрын
Respect to Rori, she found the balance of standing her ground without stepping or talking down on anyone. Big up sisi💯❤️
@leratokeitumetsemontshusi298111 ай бұрын
Rorisang is very wise❤️❤️ at no point she has insulted or intimidated any of them to get the message across!!
@thembelaloliwe786611 ай бұрын
Wise but immature 🙄
@motsetau976511 ай бұрын
i totally agree with you but her interrupting Maponga's point interrupted us from learning a thing or two
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
She was only speaking English from private school. 90% of what she said was based on ignorance, and she was emotional and couldn't tolerate facts throughout the entire show.
@Anti-IsraeliteDefamationLeague9 ай бұрын
*Insult & Intimidation is LITERALLY how Christianity replaced our Heritage. Perhaps these tools should be wielded and not shunned?*
@jerrymagqadaza36485 ай бұрын
I had to disagree with u on that one there's nothing wise for her points, and remember listening is a skill
@anastasimankesemokgobu17249 ай бұрын
I like Rorisang and the fact that she acknowledges that Christians have acted superior for a very long time, which has actually pushed people far away from God. But now that we are preaching the gospel without bashing any religion, it does make sense for a lot of people. "I have never said you are crazy for speaking to dead people"
@Rowlene.Ай бұрын
"I never said you're crazy for speaking to dead people" lol that killed me😂this is why I love her❤
@ditebogo_damson11 ай бұрын
I love how Ousi Rorisang sticks to her word❤️✝️may God bless her and give her strength
@siverafuza839811 ай бұрын
She's ignorant and a coconut. She couldn't even deal with the facts Maponga J was dropping.
@user-tk8vm4kx6y8 ай бұрын
But still she failed to answer that KO question, whats a use of making noise if you can't answer important questions?
@ditebogo_damson8 ай бұрын
@user-tk8vm4kx6y So according to you, she was making noise👀honestly I don't see it in that way, as people, we have different beliefs, and some questions are not meant to be asked, save them for Heaven
@user-mt6kx1ke4j7 ай бұрын
These are loud mouths who pretend to be woke and think everything is a competition
@jamesmulei59519 ай бұрын
The unapologetic J. Maponga,😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love you my brother
@thabonale6819 Жыл бұрын
This was great. One needs emotional maturity to participate in such debates, and the humility to be teachable - learn and unlearn.
@sandisoparkies826811 ай бұрын
Maponga you nailed it baba👏 and Jackie is pissed off 😂
@gizmo_kzn309711 ай бұрын
Mr Joshua Maponga smoked all of them. Dr. Khehlelezi of course shared the same sentiments as him. It was not an intellectual conversation because they couldn't actually back up what they say so they started involving their emotions. There's a point where the host spoke for over 1 minute, just, ranting. I know because I was skipping through it. I feel bad for the people who were watching on TV... They had to just eat it.🤣🤣🤣
@Lindeka.M9 ай бұрын
Maponga worships himself
@masibongesibiya63153 ай бұрын
It’s beautiful.
@nhlakaniphophakathi12588 ай бұрын
Wow, Bishop Joshua Maphunga is a true African, not a coconut.
@Rowlene.Ай бұрын
Who's a coconut kanti?😮
@bokamosoramocha453411 ай бұрын
Rorisang killed this 🫶
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
She had no input TBH.
@MsTAmazing11 ай бұрын
Exactly.. She was supposed to moderate but jumped in the debate emotionally charged smh
@gobimotswatswe50983 ай бұрын
She doesn't know about he black culture, she doesn't know that she wil be a ancestor to her children says it all. She has to find out about where she comes from.
@Rowlene.Ай бұрын
@@gobimotswatswe5098For ini?? Why does she have to do all that?
@The-Resistance3 күн бұрын
She does not understand that you have to generalise when you are making a point.
@ntshuxekopreciousshitlhang86729 ай бұрын
These ladies need to read more and feed their knowledge, it's embarrassing to be destroyed by 1 person
@LehlogonoloChuene9 ай бұрын
high this conversation needs a mature person who does not take things by the heart coz wow, ..never the less, i love Maponga
@siveswartbooi10 ай бұрын
Where would Joshua Maponga be if he didn't study at white colonial university's and fly out of Zimbabwe on white colonial planes. He wouldn't even be a part of this conversation without his education at this white colonial institutions, we wouldnt care on his opinion. so why does he ask Rorisang where would she be spiritually if a "white colonial Christianity" didn't come to Africa. He must ask himself where would HE be?
@ceekayouu2510 ай бұрын
Uyabhuda wena
@siveswartbooi10 ай бұрын
@@ceekayouu25 hai s'ka!
@aronmelisizwemaseti711010 ай бұрын
Ubheda mpela
@nkululekosonwabo93849 ай бұрын
You're Talking shit 😂 what a weak statement. Uyabhuda strong
@user-js3ex4bc2yАй бұрын
Shut up and listen
@K.mbambo11 ай бұрын
This conversation was very emotional and personal . People did things to each other in the past 😂😂
@anastasimankesemokgobu17249 ай бұрын
That's what I am picking up
@mthokozisisimilozulu545210 ай бұрын
It’s such a shame to see a black person fighting for a western culture like this 💔 and very heartbreaking
@comicverselaughs8 ай бұрын
maponga is a legend,he got the ladies emotional cause of his knowledge
@nkulithegreat35688 ай бұрын
Speaking the language of the colonialist to say you are not colonized iz crazy business
@___prettyish___359310 ай бұрын
I love Ausi Rorisang soo much
@NathiM03 Жыл бұрын
For a man who is so opposed the to Eurocentric perspective it’s so interesting that he places that very same Eurocentric education system on such a high pedestal.
@buyimajola4245 Жыл бұрын
Ok so how else must he express his opposition?
@NathiM03 Жыл бұрын
@@buyimajola4245 I’m not opposing that he use Eurocentric educational systems and methods, what I am implying is how hypocritical he is. The very same Europeans who he passionately opposes in the religious context (by the way that is a misinformed stance) created the Eurocentric educational system which he prides himself with when making an argument towards the opposition. So Eurocentrism is good when they colonise our way of learning and education and it’s something he can even brag about when mentioning how learned he is but it’s not when they “colonise” our way of worship and individuals choose to adopt that within their personal lives.
@buyimajola4245 Жыл бұрын
@@NathiM03 right, I hear you. Do you think he is awe of his hypocrisy? Chances are he is not awe, coz he should mention it as a disclaimer, when he makes a point.
@mathaleaphatela Жыл бұрын
@@NathiM03 THIS!!!
@kingnandi556311 ай бұрын
It is very interesting to see Unathu, so crazy
@fariekays385111 ай бұрын
Not Maponga saying l won't use big words and gave a long list of the big words😂😂😂
@MsTAmazing11 ай бұрын
but he didn't use big words unless I'm confused on what is considered "big words"
@karabomadia278310 ай бұрын
Christianity is so strong that’s it faith can blind you from facts at any cost for your spiritual growth. Even if Christ came and told us about the acknowledgment of our ancestors we still wouldn’t accept it because we are hell bent on believing in what makes us comfortable not what will make us grow.
@ntshuxekopreciousshitlhang86729 ай бұрын
Maponga is a genius.
@devon_claude_463611 ай бұрын
Solomon is shaking 😂😂..
@eddieramokganyaka2276 Жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to keep up with Maponga's vocabulary 😩😂
@masebekwena304111 ай бұрын
😂
@thembelaloliwe786611 ай бұрын
Maponga and Steve Kompela, same whatsi group 😁
@Anti-IsraeliteDefamationLeague9 ай бұрын
*Then follow his train of THOUGHT.*
@user-pv6of6cb1vАй бұрын
These are the convos we should be having not what we having at the moment. Respecting each others believes
@thamsanqapercyzikalala70478 ай бұрын
This was the question. I asked my mother 10 year back she was brave to answer the question
@kagisonongngoepe629711 ай бұрын
I must say tht Maponga triggered something where he spoke about "colonial interruption". I believe we r a people that evolve with time. So encountering ol kinds of winds and spaces in the world, we r bound to become a changed ppl in time. But the with problem with these eurocentric believe systems, they were imposed upon a people in order to evaporate that of the African indigenous. And for any African to identify with eurocentricism, impolite as it may sound, it's a shame. Lack of knowledge of who we r makes it excusable for Africans to identify with eurocentricism.
@user-zj4ob7dt8l3 ай бұрын
I love you rori to stand up for you God and only God, My the good God increase and bless you
@tlhompholouiso6727 ай бұрын
I think this is a matter of "staying in your lane" if you believe in something and it works for you. Stay there, don't castigate what others believe in.
@saidey2824 күн бұрын
You said it right!!!!!!! OMW
@Jamesbond007jaime Жыл бұрын
The intros to their names at the beginning are fire 🤣🔥🔥🔥☝🏾
@collinsmolapo9992Ай бұрын
This ppl where not ready for truth ❤MR MAPONGA
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
Maponga was in a roomful of ignorance. Jackie Phamotse had no input. Don't understand why she was invited. Rorisang was speaking English from private school. 95% of what she said was ignorance. Solomon found out. Doctor Khehlelezi had so much input that Jackie and Rorisang but language barrier made these two undermine him. Rorisang and Jackie are emos and could not withstand facts put forward by Maponga that's why they rely on their feelings to win the viewers.
@ogee813911 ай бұрын
Why are the ladies angry it hard for Africa to accept to the truth
@killuanji471210 ай бұрын
These youth of today's time are full of anger, lack of respect and a lot of lack of knowledge. Unfortunate. The settlers did a great job and it will be very difficult for Africans to find their roots this way.
@sifisodlamini2035 Жыл бұрын
Dr khehlelezi is actually agreeing with maponga J😂😂😂❤️
@siverafuza839811 ай бұрын
He smiles whenever Maponga J speaks. 😄
@Letukile4 ай бұрын
I'm also wondering what the whole point of the show is if the people who don't know about African spirituality are not willing to listen?
@user-il9wn1mf3f5 ай бұрын
Rory Rory Wow may God give you more intelligent very Proud of You ❤kego Rata Lerato la love
@devon_claude_463611 ай бұрын
This could have been a proper debate ,if there were 0% emotions attached and 100 % facts 😅😂. But overall..
@Anti-IsraeliteDefamationLeague9 ай бұрын
*NOT GOING TO HAPPEN with WOMEN involved.*
@Ian-xp5fy9 ай бұрын
Maponga destroyed them all, the moment they started getting emotional they were already losing
@kabelomalotle45757 ай бұрын
I do agree with the statement that ausi Rorisang saying we need to be willing to learn others believe to understand not judge.
@nzumbu63185 ай бұрын
If you really want to learn when one is speaking take what you don't know,and learn from it 1.do not make a point and want to be heard as if what you know is better than what other people knows, This doesn’t need emotional feelings to learn.great chat
@goodsherpherdloveministrie86813 ай бұрын
Eish 😂🤣🤣😂i think this Solomon was in a wrong place he needs to go and prepare himself cause hhmmm
@Le_bo73311 ай бұрын
This topic is so interesting, sadly only one person was qualified to have this conversation and was not even a little bit challenged by the other speakers because they all know very little about what they practice. This conversation was also just so poorly mediated. Will the true apologetics please stand up!
@Lindeka.M9 ай бұрын
South Africa let’s pray for Rorisang
@kamvamgwaza71428 ай бұрын
Why?
@princemellosa969311 ай бұрын
We really need another episode on this topic
@user-gg3id3wz7y9 ай бұрын
Cha ngiyavuma kodwa uyanjan enkonzwen ungeke wakhothamele umfundis ophambikwakho I lov this uph umagejageja kodwa😂😂😂😂
@londiwedlamini67413 ай бұрын
“Where you gather and start debating about God, the chairperson of that meeting is the devil himself”
@faithing884 ай бұрын
Maponga then doesn't want christians to preach the gospel
@tumoZAVlog Жыл бұрын
Education ❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏽
@21kd15 күн бұрын
After listening to this debate again again i understand that what Joshua maponga said is the real truth but people don't understand it .sad reality By the way m from northeast India (naga tribe) Thank you maponga for your wisdom 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@comicverselaughs8 ай бұрын
the other lady was just shouting so I couldn't hear her point ,and why is it every time maponga makes a point they talk over him to block his point
@nonkonzohadebe5219Ай бұрын
This was my best conversation bcz I kind of relate to Roli
@Natalie_574Ай бұрын
I bless God for Rorisang's life.....❤❤❤❤Much love for you Rorisang❤❤
@hi_i_am_emo9 ай бұрын
I'm not sorry😭. Yooh he was personal
@ogee813911 ай бұрын
Maponga never insult anyone
@ZoxoloMpungose11 ай бұрын
Thank you🙏
@user-if7pt9od6v5 күн бұрын
Maponga lack respect he is a MR know it all.
@kgomotsomonye91364 ай бұрын
Nco.. i sympathise with Solomon😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mabasoprince5574Күн бұрын
Dr Khehlelezi 😂😂😂😂😂poor man.
@pietmaropeng8263 Жыл бұрын
Maphonga mos o tlile mo go re gakantsha ka sekgowa😫😫😫
@just_mohau5692Ай бұрын
😂😂
@Katlegogmk8 ай бұрын
Rorisang took this personal and she contradicted herself there. So she is conscious of the fact that Christians "born again" per se are judgemental toward African culture/traditions.
@user-nq6qd3tr1r Жыл бұрын
You need to be mature and emotionally intelligent too understand Bishop Mapongha
@mathaleaphatela Жыл бұрын
Not really, he's just using big words to unpack very basic concepts. It takes actual emotional maturity to respect people even when you're not in agreement with them, he failed in that regard.
@user-nq6qd3tr1r11 ай бұрын
@@mathaleaphatela They probably big words to you , he is from Zim they were colonized by the English so most of them use big vocabulary.
@ashleykgaladi2211 ай бұрын
@@user-nq6qd3tr1rstill he failed to respect others because they hold a different opinion from theirs, that says much about him as a person.
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
@mathaleaphatela6134 Maponga didn't use big words to insult others. If you heard him very well. He's got a skill of capitalizing on Jackie and Rorisang ignorance and emotions. Rorisang and Jackie had no input in this debate TBH. They are using emotions to win the viewers over.
@Ameliyah_Tebz8 ай бұрын
actully its the opposite
@thapeloseane13366 ай бұрын
Maponga dismantled them with knowledge and understanding out of their brutal ignorance!
@kuhleMangesi-ds7bn4 ай бұрын
And Ashoms lied to the viewers and his colleagues when he said he dreamed of God😂😂😂😂
@goodsherpherdloveministrie86813 ай бұрын
They is nothing great about Maponga he is just so boastfull and proud which God says he hates
@avelaharvey84668 ай бұрын
Maphongo and khehlelezi thnk they know it all😢
@masibongesibiya63153 ай бұрын
They know more than their debatees
@leratomodikoeleeray235111 ай бұрын
Maponga Honestly Needs To Respect Others
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
How?
@MsTAmazing11 ай бұрын
What did he do? It's a debate, right?
@sincedilexaba87467 ай бұрын
Honestly.but his followers protect him
@palesaMos9 ай бұрын
Maponga don't deserve the Title of Bishop .
@kamvamgwaza71428 ай бұрын
Give us 2 reasons
@TheGameOfHighsAndLowsАй бұрын
Joshua 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
@siyabongaoriginmbele79933 ай бұрын
Bishop Maphonga is a real one
@katlehomohaleseisa379811 күн бұрын
Tell them Maponga
@masibongesibiya63156 ай бұрын
Jackie is a hypocrite because she’s been undermining Solomon when the show started.
@cuthbertchinji36769 ай бұрын
Maponga all day!
@helmutnamwandi68157 ай бұрын
Our ancestors are speaking to us through ntate Maponga J.
@sunnysgreyarea2522Ай бұрын
Pastor Joshua is the Goat 🐐. 👏🏾
@virginiamolepo43357 ай бұрын
Maponga may i be on the list of applicants for ur academy institute when u open one pls ! ✊🏼
@GiovanniMrVanni-uz7nr4 ай бұрын
Maponga to the world
@ntombokhanyomildred21554 ай бұрын
#BRINGBACKOURPEOPLE MAPONGA❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@masibongesibiya63156 ай бұрын
Maponga ❤
@mhlengigcwabaza493511 ай бұрын
Maponga✌✌✌✌
@moshek928311 ай бұрын
If you are fragile why participate in such conversations??. Emotionally weak people always cause deviations and personalise such conversations. I'd prefer people to be more keen on learning the truth rather than trying to defend or advocate what they've already believed, such mentality makes one immune to teachings. Lastly. One who speaks without actual experience, always teach things that yield no results. All things, powers or thrones, hidden and unhidden. In heaven and on earth, all were created by and for God.... When you get to a point where you forget that you are not God's friend, when you forget that the creators thoughts are way above your thoughts. You will be quick to condemn everything that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. Most people are quick to talk about things they have no experience about, assume positions they weren't called for and hence preaching what they cannot practice and as a result waste people's time with teachings that yield no results
@thanduyiseraylee10412 ай бұрын
Hhey kahle ngamatshe ummongo wewukela🙆🏾♂️😮. Ay uyimpi, ushayile ke kodwa 🤜🏾🤛🏾
@cingantyatyela7092Ай бұрын
Rorisang to Maponga: What possess you? I'm actually relly interested to know😅😅😅 Maponga: It’s the spirit of knowledge and understanding😆😆
@kingnandi556311 ай бұрын
Maponga is very rude and disrespectful, I was interested in his point of view and the knowledge he has but he leaves such a distasteful impression that I do not want to go and view more of his videos. I hope he can get off his very high horse and converse without being disrespectful.
@i.amKeke_11 ай бұрын
Maponga is very RUDE! Even if he's speaking facts, you can't even listen to him because his arrogance is out of this world.
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
@@i.amKeke_Don't let your emotions get in your way. Takes facts. No excuses.
@MsTAmazing11 ай бұрын
How is he rude?
@Letukile4 ай бұрын
God is God, He is supreme. And just because we are Christians doesn't mean we are big enough to put God in our little box of understanding and He must conform to our limited way of teaching. If God decides to use an ancestor, it's His to use. If God wants to use an angel, it's his to use. If He wants to use a tree, it's his to use. Even an animal is God's to use. And he doesn't need to end his Godlyness in the book of Revelations. God is God, stop telling him he is not God outside of the church.
@mxolisirymondmbense409411 ай бұрын
"Others"
@LuckyMahlatji11 ай бұрын
This was a great talk. However, I feel like it was filled with emotions more than facts (Rori and Jackie). Maponga is arrogant, but had he been given enough time to unpack this, I believe we would have learned so much than we have learned now. Jackie's last question about coexistence between the two (Christianity and African Spirituality) would have unpacked a lot of things, but because she and Rosi were filled with a lot of emotions, it became wasted. To me, Dr. Khehlezi was really lost some of the questions that were asked, but he did make me question a lot of things from some of his responses.
@kamvamgwaza714211 ай бұрын
Maponga speaks uncomfortable truth. And that's Jackie and Rorisangs' weaknesses. Nothing about arrogance
@peterplaatjies92678 ай бұрын
If colonist didnt come here who would you be?
@thaizamok41774 ай бұрын
Rorisang was a bit weak here. She didn't act as a host, and now she comments. If you could Host on balance, it wouldn't be your opinion that won. Both ladies get triggered easily.
@SLAPSeffect9 ай бұрын
Maphonga brings me no peace of mind,the things he says stress me and make one feel small,that's reason enough for me to never listen to his nonsense again.
@thatiii_m9 ай бұрын
safa iqualification ,love rori!
@tinashem10439 ай бұрын
Maponga is by far analyzing logically though..Rori is trying just to be defensive but I'm sure she hears the facts if she's smart like she seems..the others seems to be just journalists nje and a fake prophet lol 😅😅 thinking outside the box lol
@mzoleliswekile95677 ай бұрын
Maphonga met his match to Rorisang
@TheSARAFINA200010 ай бұрын
Rorisang is taking thing personal instead of being neutral as a presenter
@RykGLimnrecords-px5nb5 ай бұрын
Y do we get emotional wen we In. The firepool
@tshegotheefairy888 Жыл бұрын
Bishop Nailed this interview!
@nuttyziyanda33338 ай бұрын
The lady in orange is becoming emotional , she fails to engage in issue because because she feels the spear is facing him