The 'black magic' behind the the MoTeC M1

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Gain some insight into MoTeC M1 series ECU with applications engineer Darren Reynolds.
Darren tackles critical aspects such as the balance between accuracy and usability to ensure that ECUs are accessible to a broad range of customers, temperature compensation, torque limits, and the intricacies of torque models.
An example of what goes into something as seemingly simple as an upshift is also explained to show what it takes to match the driveability that OEM tuning provides with the added performance of an aftermarket tune on a vehicle that might produce anything from 300 to 3000 horsepower.
Also shared is a little bit of insight into what is now limiting the M1 platform as technology has progressed further into direct injection applications and how MoTeC plans to address these while keeping the overall costs of the consumer in mind.
What is volumetric efficiency and why does it matter to a torque-based tuning model, along with how compensation tables work, charged vs intake air temperatures and the impact they have on tuning, plus some insight into how VE is much easier for modern tuners to use compared to the older injection time-based models of the past.
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - MoTeC or No Tech
0:26 - Darren - Applications Engineer
0:54 - Reverse Engineering
1:34 - Path To MoTeC
2:20 - Passion For Motorsport
2:47 - Educational Background
3:44 - ECU Model Evolution
5:06 - Volumetric Efficiency Vs Injection Time-Based
7:03 - Injection Time-Based Injector Swap Example
7:50 - But VE Isn't Always Perfect
8:02 - Compensation Tables
8:46 - Charged Vs Intake Air Temperature Compensations
11:30 - Complexity Vs Accuracy
13:10 - R35 GT-R M1 Project
14:41 - OE Drivability Goals
16:35 - Upshift Workflow
17:42 - Torque vs Cuts
18:28 - Torque Calculations & VE
19:40 - Data Accuracy
20:44 - Throttle Airflow Vs Engine Airflow
22:04 - Torque Limits
24:02 - 4wd Wheel Spin Calculations
25:55 - Evolution: GPRP Pro
26:40 - Torque-Based Throttle Input
28:10 - IMSA Development
29:10 - Paddle Shift Control
29:44 - Validation & Testing Process
30:48 - The Future Of MoTeC Developments
32:36 - Current Limitations: DI Example
33:37 - Cost Factor
33:45 - Communications
34:15 - Build.Tune.Drive
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@hpa101 12 күн бұрын

What features do you think the next generations of MoTeC should have? 🦸‍♂ Save $400 on the ultimate online tuning and motorsport education package - enrol today: hpcdmy.co/m1vip 🏎 Learn how to tune MoTeC ECU's with 50% off your first EFI tuning course: hpcdmy.co/tunemotecsTIME STAMPS: 0:00 - MoTeC or No Tech 0:26 - Darren - Applications Engineer 0:54 - Reverse Engineering 1:34 - Path To MoTeC 2:20 - Passion For Motorsport 2:47 - Educational Background 3:44 - ECU Model Evolution 5:06 - Volumetric Efficiency Vs Injection Time-Based 7:03 - Injection Time-Based Injector Swap Example 7:50 - But VE Isn't Always Perfect 8:02 - Compensation Tables 8:46 - Charged Vs Intake Air Temperature Compensations 11:30 - Complexity Vs Accuracy 13:10 - R35 GT-R M1 Project 14:41 - OE Drivability Goals 16:35 - Upshift Workflow 17:42 - Torque vs Cuts 18:28 - Torque Calculations & VE 19:40 - Data Accuracy 20:44 - Throttle Airflow Vs Engine Airflow 22:04 - Torque Limits 24:02 - 4wd Wheel Spin Calculations 25:55 - Evolution: GPRP Pro 26:40 - Torque-Based Throttle Input 28:10 - IMSA Development 29:10 - Paddle Shift Control 29:44 - Validation & Testing Process 30:48 - The Future Of MoTeC Developments 32:36 - Current Limitations: DI Example 33:37 - Cost Factor 33:45 - Communications 34:15 - Build.Tune.Drive

@blow0me 10 күн бұрын

features ? Unlocked, no pay huge extra cash for bog standard features. M1 series is awful in that regard. So many users locked out because of so called "custom firmware", for bog standard applications, locked to one supplier/dealer etc

@Jacobwlane 12 күн бұрын

Really appreciate hearing from people who didn't go down the traditional university/higher-education route. Gives me faith in my own ability to learn when I can see others who've done it too

@HSVR383SC 11 күн бұрын

Thanks. Great to hear from the horses mouth how things are done. Happy I understood 90% of it too!

@fullsendmarinedarwin7244 10 күн бұрын

I had a MoTeC in my boat, the after sale support is second to none. Any issues they were remote dialling in that day to fix it. The UI looks pretty old and there’s an overwhelming amount of data on each tab but it works and works well

@spooler7828 12 күн бұрын

More I/O's are important. I had to step up my Emtron from a KV8 to a KV12 and add two additional add on boxes (individual EGT's and additional add on I/O) to get all the sensor data I wanted on my 370ztt VQ37vhr.

@TurboVisBits 12 күн бұрын

Emtron rocks!

@davesuninterestingstuff5026 11 күн бұрын

Are you driving the VVEL from the Emtron? Curious as I have a VQ37 also and options for VVEL control were limited last time I looked.

@spooler7828 11 күн бұрын

@@davesuninterestingstuff5026 Yes I am.

@chippyjohn1 12 күн бұрын

Curious as to what their new series will be like and when they will be released. I would like to see more EGT thermocouple capability from the one ECU without the need for an expander.

@baronblahblah2396 12 күн бұрын

Great video, ironically I checked out link new ecu G4X extreme has all the same features in 1 ecu.

@z0mgchris 12 күн бұрын

not all things are made equally.

@TurboVisBits 12 күн бұрын

Literally different planets or capabilities... if you don't understand you will eventually lol

@coreyw427 11 күн бұрын

Certainly is not a torque based ECU unlike GPRP Pro. There’s also a big difference between ECUs in how features are implemented and the quality of the implementation. Some are filled with bugs. Others, like MoTeC have virtually no bugs. The software is the most important part, and often the part that is done poorly on many ECUs.

@blow0me 10 күн бұрын

With Link software written by computer gamers, not tuners. As much as I dislike Motec, Link has the most horrific software.

@jasonhall5101 11 күн бұрын

I would love to buy and use a m1 on a diesel to try it out, but I suspect once you have one you will never want to go back to standard ecus

@dubbleA100 12 күн бұрын

Awesome video

@hpa101 12 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@krusher74 12 күн бұрын

We cant be that far away from AI self tuning. The AI just needs enough sensor info and away it goes! (skynet takes the 2030 F1 title!)

@hpa101 12 күн бұрын

How good would that be! You'd have to be pretty brave to put your hands up to test that sort of system though....😅 If you believe the marketing material we actually already have hands off 'self tuning' features on many ECUs. The reality leaves a lot to be desired compared to the marketing however vs a competent tuner - Taz.

@DJ_Driven 12 күн бұрын

I was going to ask the same question. It can't be that far away. I remember thinking about this way back in 2005. What additional sensors is it going to take for the computer to really self-learn with some specific pre-program parameters to follow? I'm ready to order up my chat GTP Tuner software right now.

@patx35 12 күн бұрын

We already have auto tuning in ECU software long before neural networks were a thing. A human still needs to input the parameters, and make sure that nothing bad happens during the tuning process.

@DJ_Driven 12 күн бұрын

Are we still limited to running a windows-based laptop to piggyback in order to tune these motecs or have they upgraded to iPad Pro or Android tablet app based tunning yet?

@TheBCninja 12 күн бұрын

Upgraded? That's a weird way of looking at that 😂

@DJ_Driven 11 күн бұрын

What I meant was instead of relying on a Windows base PC if we can use an app-based platform like a iPad Pro or a Android tablet. All the electronics and technology should be built into the ECU and Link via Bluetooth or direct Wi-Fi connection for programming. This is the direction of most of the big OEM for service tech tools relying on tablets now.

@TheBCninja 11 күн бұрын

@DJ_Driven I could see them utilizing tablet support for the guage views on the dash, but I don't think they will really want to put in the work to create mobile app versions of their software. Motec is basically coding for car nerds, and I don't know anyone who codes by taping on their iPad screen 😅

@wzhangsters 9 күн бұрын

@@DJ_Driven service, maybe. Development, a touch UI is a step backwards for all use cases …

@grippgoat 12 күн бұрын

My megasquirt almost 20 years ago ran off an injector model + VE table and corrections. Was it ahead of its time? EDIT: Not sure what version it was. Like 2 or 3?

@350gtboi 11 күн бұрын

Mega squirt is not even in the same stratosphere. Ms has the electronics and capabilities of an ecu made 20 years ago as well. What’s funny is M800 came out over 20 years and is still a great ecu. I’m not even a motec guy. But I’m def an MS hater. Trash.

@350gtboi 11 күн бұрын

This sounds like Something Emtron has been doing for a long time now.

@Thewhat101 12 күн бұрын

Aidz...hobby spec..pay to play garbage Spose it is the special Olympics for cars.. wtac... fits the purpose

@EdwardAhKee 12 күн бұрын

since when has racing been anything other than pay to play.

@coreyw427 11 күн бұрын

Better let Supercars know 😂

@Thewhat101 11 күн бұрын

@@coreyw427 lol... Don't get me started on the taxi racing.. ever heard of a golden handshake, everyone got a wristy that day😅

@coreyw427 11 күн бұрын

@@Thewhat101 What is a race series of acceptable merit to you??

@coreyw427 11 күн бұрын

@@Thewhat101 Because they have a control ECU?

@hoffmods 12 күн бұрын

First🎉

@hpa101 12 күн бұрын

Welcome back!

@lobotomyy 10 күн бұрын

Worst bang for buck ecu on the market. But for people where money doesnt play a role it sure is a way of lying to yourself you have the best ecu with the best tune because you spent the most money 🙂‍↕️But thats motorsport isnt it?

@hpa101 10 күн бұрын

You can spend $20,000 USD on an ECU from other brands if you just want to spend money to be fair. MoTeC isn't a budget brand, but they're not top of the motorsport food chain either price wise. Interested to hear what you hated about the M1 series software and hardware in your personal experience if you have used it and what you would choose instead for the same application/s now. It's OK to not like a product 🤘 - Taz.

@N3RF4LIF3 9 күн бұрын

@hpa101 This is the most positive and productive to say you are too broke to have an opinion lol. @lobotomyy Im broke too, but im not mad about it. Weird, you're salty, though😂 Edit: I just checked prices. Bro, these are avg prices. I was expecting 10k+. Megasquirt, holley, and MSD are not a comparison. Syvecs and Haltech are arguably inferior.

@karelsmotorsport 8 күн бұрын

The fact that people don’t understand that you can buy a base model unit from Motec but it’s fully prepared to be the top end one with some licenses upgrades is mind boggling.

@jellybeansupra 6 күн бұрын

Tell us you are a broke boy without telling us you are a broke boy