Kevin Conroy absolutely warrants an episode dedicated to him.

I just get goosebumps everytime i hear a Conroy story. That man was a legend upon legends.

the one two punch of Kevin Conroy passing and then watching a three hour long tribute to Chadwick Boseman has made this a pretty emotional week. If you haven't gotten a chance to read Kevin's comic from the DC 2022 pride special please do, it's an amazing read

Nice show, boys. I’ll cherish my memory of working directly with Kevin; wherein I wrote dialogue (alongside Marv Wolfman and the late-great, Dwayne McDuffie), cast, and directed Mr Conroy in an iconic role. An honor to watch him work. RIP, Mr Conroy.

Beware The Gray Ghost is my favorite Batman episode, *it always hits me emotionally.* I'm sure the next time I watch it, I'm going to burst into tears.

The reason why the fish people don't die at first is because they do have enhanced durability, but they are weak against sonic weapons, is shown when Shuri is rescued.

So happy to hear someone spreading the good word of Jenny Nicholson! I discovered her videos during covid and binged all of them. Her videos about Evermore and Bronycon are some of her best work

It's really hard to see the hero of my Childhood pass by, he was the Best Rest in peace Kevin Conroy

“That better not have been little James” Wheezing

53:49 I actually did get the sense that Namor had like an unlimited army in part because of the look of Talokan. The difference between this and Wakanda is that the Black Panther is treated as like the protector, the ruler and like a respected symbol of the nation which is passed down through the ages, whereas Namor is literally treated as a God King, a seemingly immortal supremely powerful being who rules over them. Wakanda has the feeling more like a conventional monarchy, where there are somewhat defined clans/tribes loosely organized under one sovereign, while Talokan feels more like Egypt or an absolute monarchy, where nearly all power is invested in the single person, so the resources are directed towards that one person, and the rest of the society is built around that.

I loved Wakanda Forever!! it was definitely a character driven movie versus a plot driven movie, so you have to care about the characters and be interested in their story, otherwise you would find it really boring, but I cried through probably half of it!!

i’ve been listening to the wakanda forever score by Ludwig Göransson since the night i saw the movie. it’s so fantastic. loved the movie! 🙅🏽‍♂️

Didn't really love the Midnight Angels costumes but do kinda appreciate the commitment to the comic accurate suits.

Kevin will forever be my batman, I spent hours upon hours with him whether that was watching the cartoons or on the many many play throughs of the Arkham games. Thank you Kevin for all the good times and may you rest in peace.

I just (hilariously) realized that Djimon H. was in both Captain Marvel AND Shazam! 🤣😅😂🍻

I hope Godzilla & Kong is a buddy cop movie like Turner & Hooch. Not sure if Kong would be the straight man w/ Godzilla making a big mess or the other way around.

Near the end of wakanda forever, there is a scene where Shuri is reminiscing about T’Challa. It’s supposed to be sad and what not. But in my theater, there was a man audibly snoring throughout the scene. I can’t think of a better way to describe wakanda forever. Chadwick Boseman deserved better.

Absolutely loved the Conroy tribute!

Also, the Ironheart suit was basically Samus Aran from Metroid and I loved it.

I want to see the behind-the-scenes of the screenwriters deciding which country to throw under the bus at the beginning of the movie. Someone is just like, "France is the worst. Make it France." And everyone else just looks at each other and are like, "Yeah, sure."

Bummer about Kevin Conroy. But speaking of which. Have either of you listened to HBO's new old-timey Batman radio show? I think Batman is voiced by the guy who played Gordon in The Batman. I also heard Jason Sudeikik and Chris Parnell.

I met Kevin conroy at a convention about five years ago. He signed my season 2 Batman box set as “Kevin conroy, Batman” he still had great hair.

So many high points in this episode, my personal favorite was James ripping into Elon Musk *chef's kiss*

23:50 Not sure if Mason was joking when he mentioned the Banshees of Inisherin in relation to Scotland.

“Godzilla passes to Kong from down town. Kong-from the 3 point line…and Boom goes the dynamite!” There’s your new title

Spoiler: . . . . . Yes, Okoye's suit is visually identical to the version of it in comics, and they are named what they're named in the film. Midnight Angels are a small stealth clandestine group of elite Dora Milaje with a cloaked ship for carrying out international or wetworks missions. The design seems to be later versions of an earlier gold colored power suit smuggled out of Wakanda by a male character that was banished and ended up in NYC, but who snuck tech and vibranium with him on his way out to sell to global powers during a Black Panther / Daredevil issue from the 70's. That may sound familiar because it's loosely the same story plot that was adapted to Killmonger's origin in the film, though in the one shot it's a throw away story and the Wakandan was a disgraced military figure who T'Challa has come out to deal with because he received word that the exile was being abusive to his partner. After being a real dog of a bloke, the exile chooses to later sacrifice himself in a fight for the good of Wakanda. Daredevil is upset that Black Panther allowed it, arguing they should have "saved" him, while Black Panther responds that saving him is precisely what they did. Random story point: Shuri in the comics becomes Leader of Wakanda as well as the Black Panther, while T'Challa is dead. T'Challa comes back from the Ancestral Plane ala Moon Knight, and has gained powers over the dead from an Egyptian God in addition to his own thing with the Panther spirit. He remains Black Panther while Shuri remains leader. Shuri eventually "dies" but is locked in a state of frozen animation for a long while while T'Challa tries to find a solution. There's been a lot of dipping into main story beats from the comics, reordering them or reframing them in ways that serve MCU. So this plot shift I would say is similar to maybe what occurred with Aunt May.

1:21:17 this transition is so chaotic i love it

The music in black panther does not miss. Kendrick Lamar (Paramedic!) on the first soundtrack was amazing. Though it’s completely different, Con la Brisa on wakanda forever was AMAZING. the tour of Talokan when they play it was also amazing. The Talokans (?) playing the hip ball game during it took my breathe away. Such a cool way to respect the Indigenous culture. Makes me wish Disney wasn’t so involved because Marvel does villains the best.

i’m so happy to hear a We Got This Covered Covered segment

Wakanda Forever!

Thanks for the Red Dwarf episodes.

Just came back from seeing Wakanda Forever a fourth time. I might break my record and see it seven times. 😚 It's a good and necessary escape for me. The pacing was perfect for me because they didn't linger on any scene for too long. It's never felt long to me. It flies by. I'd have liked for some scenes to be longer, tbh. It lovingly eulogized a man who meant a lot to millions of people (myself included) and moved the story forward. Namor's characterization was great as well (I really liked him). All the main cast acted their butts off, especially Angela and Letitia. I'm addicted to this movie, tbh.

Overlord DVD when Overlord Blu-Ray walks in:

I voted for the lads and now I’m gonna do it again

I bloody love the John Farnham finale lads😅

I can't wait for "Black Adam vs Bugs Bunny"...Funny thing about Killmonger is, that he dies and comes back numerous times in the comics.

Heroes Reborn was my first full comic arc as a kid. It turned me into a life long Franklin Richards fan. He was a little boy creating pocket realities and I was little boy reading him do it. My 2nd run was Superman blue. So I have a weird thing about loving superman blue (but not superman red)

Wakanda was epic. I thought the long run time gave all the heavy moments room to breathe.

Posted only 14 minutes ago? I'm so early. What's the time difference from Australia to England. Are you broadcasting this from the future!? MIND BLOWN!

He’s also doing a Korean War plane movie with the himbo from “Scream Queens.”

the part about not killing namor was very different from other movies. the point is namor is a godlike figure and killing him would start a blood feud between the two nations. shuri isn't againts killing in principle, she just accepts that she has broader responsibillites

I was under the impression the massive army Namor mentioned was all the marine life in the ocean.

I think it was kind of weird when Namor was playing "Marco Polo" when he was in battle against Wakanda's forces. It was also weird when the shark from 'Jaws' showed up and said "N-YUK N-YUK N-YUK!"

"Do you know what time is for?" That deepest question ever asked on the pod

13:26 🤣🤣 killed me

may Little James never die

No probably about it. Kevin Conroy was THE best Batman. Of all time.

Maso really crushing on Lupita Nyong'o (can't say i blame you m8) but i thought he's more into cartoon foxes

Baku was great loved his character growth

I think I need to watch it again with glasses. I forgot them when i went to the cinema. Everything was already murky and foggy, but me being half blind didn’t help much

I hope Godzilla and Kong is a buddy cop movie.

This is what I love about you guys, the honesty, the movie wasn’t the best and I completely agree with your points, dull city, poor pacing, not a good story, just murky backstories, no context where it is needed, too long and as saddd as it is? It is missing Chadwick and tbh from this I’m certainnnn Ryan shouldn’t make Secret Wars

SNAKE EYES IS NEXT, RIGHT?

Haven't seen Wakanda Forever yet but I hope in the spirit realm everyone has to share one Penny-Farthing in order to climb the ancestral tree.

I can't believe I never knew Conroy was gay until after he died :/ He will be so missed, and I hope that whoever takes up the role next does something original, rather than trying and failing to ape such a unique performance.

When I read Batman he is the voice in my head. Also Mark Hamel is always Joker in my head. RIP bro

‘Somehow, the infinity stones have returned’

my favorite part is that one guy saying vegemite is a exotic

I feel Winston Duke could pull off the Black Panther suit with the cape and it still be serious.

Alex Mack has telekinesis much like force users.

Namor commands the oceans, and the sea life is clearly on their side, so he can count both the people and all the fish. So, yeah, he may very well have more soldiers than Wakanda has blades of grass. Also, Shuri didn't take out Namor because it would have led to eternal war, and she finally realized that it wasn't what her mother would have wanted. The Everett Ross stuff is likely because they didn't want to gamble on a totally black/brown film. It's like the white subplot in the first season of Pose (when ballroom was made as a response to discrimination in the drag scene, so that subplot wasn't really relevant). I'm not complaining, as I do think the U.N./Ross were relevant to the plot. But yeah. 😙 Regarding little T'Challa, maybe they added the son to kind of satisfy those misog--guys who complained about T'Challa not being recast. I feel they also double-dipped by suggesting that M'Baku might try to lead. And yet the haters are STILL angry and hateful. So, they might as well have not bothered. ETA: I thought Talokan looked like what a native village would look like in the wake of colonization, only underwater. I think making it look like some goofy Disney funhouse would have been disrespectful. The way they realized it was grounded, and I liked the caverns and the main "hall," so to speak. Also, they needed to avoid anything that would make it look like Aquaman.

I think Black Panther was an impossible ask handled the best it could. The script feels like all the Namor stuff was written in response to the criticisms of T’Challa in Black Panther as a way to give him a fully arc analyzing the role of Wakanda and it doesn’t work so well with a different character who didn’t have those criticisms in the first place. The other half that’s the Shuri’s ascension stuff is okay but there’s a reason Letitia Wright was never cast as a lead in the first place, she’s good but can’t replace a legend. I thought it’s consistently funny how absurd Julia Louis Dreyfus keeps making her performance. The horniest character in the MCU

Godzilla and Kong is just gonna be Hobbs and Shaw - only the Rock is Godzilla and Statham is Kong. Obviously they also do all the motion capture.

greatest movie ever..Mr.Sunday " its GRIM & OVERLONG, I Don't want to watch it again"...😂😂

Man playing GoWR in 30 fps is rough

Did you know that the original title for the "Star Wars references" joke in this episode was actually "Blue Harvest"?

" Nine Days" is a super interesting movie! It also stars Zazzle Beats

1:32:00 I adore James being to Elon what Hannibal Burress was to Bill Cosby. He has been saying this for years as have many and finally he is being vindicated in the mainstream.

Shuri somehow survived the exact injury that killed Killmonger

I am upset at the fact that I moved across the country stayed in SLC for the night and def drove within 20 miles of Evermore and had no idea

My theater's sound system was dreadful and too loud which really dampened my experience, making it harder to really connect with the emotional beats. I feel kind of beat over the head with grief in superhero stories after this phase had every single Disney+ series feature it so it's no longer a new concept and as a result this didn't feel special. There are some incredible performances of some really bad lines, Angela Basset and Winston Duke are killing it out there doing a great job. Namor was pretty solid i thought, shocked that he looked as cool and intimidating as he did with the silly little wings. Theres is a lot of way too on the nose dialogue like Mason mentioned. To me, this felt like just a movie- and too much of one. I'll watch it again eventually on disney+ and see how better soundscape does to help the movie.

The last battle was then standing on top of a big flat boat and was a jumbled mess lol. BP like ran around on the side for two minutes and did nothing cool. Then the Talocans slaughtered basically all the Wakandans. Great job Shuri.

1:46:58 for all John Farnham Fans out there.

I love their running gag of pretending like The Last Jedi was good 😂

Yo Ben pls animate James kicking Grogu

💕💕💕

Screw bran stark. Podrick should push him out of a window. An even higher window than his first time plummeting. Jeez that brought some rage back thanks fellas

I will say the pacing was a bit off and Black Panther, specifically, I think the addition of the Riri Williams plot caused the beginning to kind of drag a bit. As much as I loved her and I’m excited to see her show, I think it would’ve been better to wait to introduce her then, than to shoehorn her into this movie. I think that time should’ve gone to exploring this new civilization they introduced.

They could do the Goku and say T'Challa doesn't want to come back. Make it an uplifting message about how Wakanda no longer needs him and then establish Killmonger as being selfish, still has rehabilitation to achieve and grow through.

I want some of the better newer stories from the comics but I also want them to get to that point first, we still have loadsssss more story to tell and I mean a shit ton load of ideas we could use before we even reach the newer comics, some of the newer ones are just terribleeee tho, it’s either more MCU toned or setting up stories the MCU could use, there’s no individuality with comics anymore it’s just allll for one narrative, whereas anything after Marvel NOW in the comics is just hit and miss, I think they should do some stories again maybe and do it properly but for some titles we have what we get and in the end, what can we do about it 😂 1:09:25 EXACTLYYYY THAT, I just think they’re gonna fuck it up and mess it up soo badly, I love Marvel I love their comics and always have but pfffttt they really do some of these comics dirty, age of ultron, civil war, dark phoenix etc, I want to see it done properly I do so let’s see, and the infinity stones and Thanos come back multiple times in the comics, not just that one comic and one story so I actually want them both to return so that could work

So if Shuri becomes Black Panther in Wakanda Forever, what’s to stop an M’baku or a Killmonger from declaring trial by combat, knocking out a teenage girl, and claiming the title of Black Panther/King of Wakanda?

For what it's worth the comics have been kicking around the threat of the Infinity stones for quite some time after the Infinity War comics. I think they just wrapped up a miniseries where the power of the stones ended up trapped inside 6 heroes/villains. I'd genuinely love to see a War of the Realms story at some point. Hell if I had my way we'd get an entire phase set in Battleword where every movie is just set in one of the weird multiverse fragments that make up the world. A weird film noir movie where Black Bolt is a detective, a Mad Max style Ghost Rider flick, a Wild West Hawkeye film. Just go bonkers with it.

I left the theater during BP.

I'm surprised that Mason didn't mention how Namor is essentially yet another Marvel villain with a sympathetic backstory, who at a certain point in the movie decides he's going to "kill all the surface dwellers" because the plot needs the conflict to happen.

People have been asking why I was not in this, it is because when I went to kill an enemy I electrocuted him to death. They expected me to use “prop effects” doom does no such thing!

You have doughnuts in the land of oz, mate? Is this a new thing?

The suits are from the comic. Y’all should read it. 1:06:14

Nice Red Dwarf chat.

My first youtube recommendation under this video is John Oliver's episode on Gerrymandering

There's always the Infinity Crusade. I'd perfectly happy with them redoing the story but the way it's supposed to be with the Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock.

Ironheart looked like Baymax

James didn't you see the Talokans playing the same game in The Road to El Dorado animated movie

The rage James could summon if Elon was anti-vaccine would be epic.

Not only is Namor as strong as Hulk and Kang(whowehaven'tseen) i think, but also as FUNNY AS SPIDER-MAN I THINK. HE'S ONE RAD COOL DUDE.

R.I.P. Kevin Conroy

Love you guys ❤

I want a doughnut. It's winter (almost) in NA, so I don't need to worry about abs.

If you think your weather crazy New Jersey just went from 70° to 42° in a day

Godzilla deep dive!

1:26:40 I love it tho because a lot of my friends are all like “yess the new PlayStation I haveee to have it” I’m not like that I can happily wait, plus nothing interesting or too different about it I don’t careee about a slight upgrade in graphics either and I love seeing a lot of people doing the same and just staying happy with the PS4’s 😂