Black Rose Pinball Restoration tips and tricks / how to

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Black Rose Pinball Restoration tips and tricks
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Manufacturer: Midway Manufacturing Company, a subsidiary of WMS Industries, Incorporated,
of Chicago, Illinois, USA (1988-1999) [Trade Name: Bally]
Date Of Manufacture: July, 1992
Model Number: 20013
Common Abbreviations: BR
MPU: Williams WPC (Fliptronics 2)
Type: Solid State Electronic (SS) [?]
Production: 3,746 units (confirmed)
Serial Number Database: View at The Internet Pinball Serial Number Database (IPSND.net) (External site)
Theme: Fantasy - Pirates - Fictional
Notable Features: Flippers (3), Pop bumpers (3), Ramps (3), 3-bank standup targets (3), 2- or 3-ball Multiball. Left ramp is a mechanically raised or lowered ramp which is raised at certain times to load the ball cannon. Lower playfield has a below-the-playfield ball cannon (catapult-type) which oscillates when loaded, to be fired by player pressing the Fire button on lockdown bar. The Broadside VUK kicks the ball to the center habitrail above the playfield the and sends it to the flippers.
Design by: John Trudeau, Brian Eddy
Art by: Pat McMahon
Dots/Animation by: Scott Slomiany
Mechanics by: John Krutsch, Ernie Pizarro
Music by: Paul Heitsch
Sound by: Paul Heitsch
Software by: Brian Eddy
Notes: Although Ed Boon is listed on the playfield, according to Louis Koziarz, Ed was doing video at Midway (Mortal Kombat) when this game was created.
Designer John Trudeau said the backglass art contains likenesses of himself and artists Greg Freres and Pat McMahon.
According to the book Pinball Memories, artist Pat McMahon created X-rated artwork for a version of backglass intended for an interested European market. The glass was never produced. Additionally, Bally had considered using black pinballs, but had to abandon the idea.
For trademark clarification, note that this game has no connection to Black Rose Production Inc., and no music written by any of its artists was used in this game's production. According to this game's flyer, "BLACK ROSE" is a trademark of Midway Manufacturing Company. "BLACK ROSE" is also a registered trademark of Tito Batista of Black Rose Productions, Inc. as per USPTO registration no. 1,214,374 dated Oct. 1982.
Marketing Slogans: "This game is loaded!"

Пікірлер: 21

@donh1511 3 ай бұрын

I just bought a black rose and your video is helping inspire me to clean it and get it shopped out! Thank you sir.

@donh1511 3 ай бұрын

And youre very right... this is not a game that a 1st timer should be shopping out! Lots of work and intricate mechs to work around.

@RETROCENGO 3 ай бұрын

Congratulations it’s an awesome game 😊

@FermentedlyChipper 2 жыл бұрын

This was an excellent restore video. It makes me excited to get into pinball repair myself. I'm planning to buy my own 1st pinball machine soon and these types of videos are a great resource for restore fanatics.

@RETROCENGO 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kindness, I really appreciate it. Good luck with your first pinball, any one in particular you are looking for?

@stephenbruce8320 3 жыл бұрын

Ya know for me I would say going through a machine and restoring it would be lots of fun. Playing it would be fun too but for me I get more enjoyment making things work as they should. Your right about not lubricating plastic and metal mating parts because the plastic itself acts as a lubricant and is also an inexpensive wear item. I would imagine that each manufacture of those pinball machines repurposes similar components across all their machines because building new molds to manufacture different parts can get rather expensive. So if you can use common components then you can literally mold endless amounts of parts and all you have to do is maintain the mold and of course I am referring to plastic components.

@RETROCENGO 3 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right, it IS a lot off fun to restore, give pinball machines new life again, and get an amazing game experience 🤩 Unfortunately the lubrication is seen very, very often in these old machines, wd40 everywhere old crusry oil/grease, not easy to clean, I prefer replacing the parts. Compared to pinball machine prices, prices for the parts is really cheap😊 Mr. B, thanks for watching my pinball videoes also, I know this is not your hobby, but I really appreciate your support 🙏🏼🙏🏼😊😊

@LaserSharkPhotoablations Жыл бұрын

This is very similar to what I'm starting with.. not as hard worked or dirty but missing posts next to broadside and bumpers and skillshot etc. Every nut I try to take off unscrews the post from the board because they get hammered and no one ever tightens them. I have had to glue wedge dowels into maybe 20 holes. Replace screw in posts with through board "nut on the back" star post screws in those hard working spots. This is not a refurb for the feint of heart. (Kinda wish I bought that spotless Wheel of fortune instead)

@caprilaser3 3 жыл бұрын

Man! What an awesome game! I’ve not played it before but it looks so much fun. Love these fast flowing Williams games. You did a great job cleaning it up. Now I feel like I need to add this to my wanted list 😁👍🏼

@RETROCENGO 3 жыл бұрын

Trust me brother, this game is amazing, combo king, great theme integration and amazing audio package, you will love it. Thank you for your kindness 🙏🏼😊

@LaserSharkPhotoablations Жыл бұрын

how did you decide what to put next to that star post between the bumpers?.. the manual playfield diagram shows only the star post on the rubber parts list. However.. my PF also has a giant mangled hole i filled where you put that small metal post, and the mylar has been cut around it making me think something does belong there. I was going to put a second star post and a 3/4" ring around both of them. (also you are correct , rubber parts list shows a metal post in that screw hole that secures the shooter lane one way gate)

@colinbaxter7785 3 жыл бұрын

I just picked one up this week. Need to level the cannon. Wish you would’ve shown how you did it

@RETROCENGO 3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations it’s an amazing pin. I actually filmed it but didn’t include it at editing couse it was zoomed in too much my fingers were all over the place. But it’s a must do adjustment.

@kevincoady3413 Жыл бұрын

@@RETROCENGO yes- I picked up a black rose last week too- I need to level the cannon and I don't want to break anything or screw something up - Your video is awesome

@RETROCENGO Жыл бұрын

@@kevincoady3413 Congratulations man, I still enjoy my Black Rose, amazing pin. Thank you for an amazing comment 🙏🏻🙏🏻😊

@kevincoady3413 Жыл бұрын

I got some time yesterday and leveled the cannon- It was a little tricky to get to the allen screws- here is what I did- 1) attached vice grip to the actual adjustment (round cylinder) held vice grip so the cylinder wound not spin, and loosened the large nut below with a wrench while holding the cylinder in place 2) loosened the lock nuts with a hex driver 3) after I had everything loose I rotated the cylinder to level the cannon, I would then lower the playfield and make a "practice run" until it felt level and right- 4) tightened up the lock screws in each cylinder and all 3 nuts- My game plays 100 times better now- no more ball skipping and flying off the cannon!

@RETROCENGO Жыл бұрын

@@kevincoady3413 great comment, thank for sharing

@Dynaglide92rc Жыл бұрын

When I push the flipper button the machine resets every time . How can I fix this. Yes , I've played a lot of the Bally and Williams Pinballs, and I still love my Black Rose. If I can fix this reset problem , I'm going to completly restore it. Art work is still perfect after 30 years. Please help. Thanks

@RETROCENGO Жыл бұрын

You have to replace bridges and caps on the driver board. Or buy a no reset board from pin sound

@paulhare2156 Жыл бұрын

Help. I need some help with my Black Rose !

@javierdubini1572 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a Back Rose Pinball and when I plug it to AC I hear a sound comming from the Main Speaker but no light turn on at all. Where I need to check first ? is there a Fuse or something easy to look first ? Regards