same here, man, same here.

Always that but I think the discussion was about lyrical meaning.

+the devil cried absulutly correct people see hear what they want too its music its hype those that see Satan in music are as week minded as the religeous nuts there's a you tube post they sold there souls for rock n roll claims there all possessed by demons listen to guys like iommi speak there's regrets not the words of devil worshippers its a show get it religeous types need a enemy to sell there brand of voodoo like a band needs image to sell theres

+Rex Jansen those that see Satan in Black Sabbath are only bringing their own demons to the surface and projecting them on others. no matter how religious the are they all have hidden demons somewhere hiding inside that needs to be dealt with. why not just blame our insecurities on others. everyone else does it. I'm sure BBC has reaked just as much havoc in people's lives with all the propaganda they spread. nobody committed suicide over Black Sabbath vocals. Something else drew them to that level and that experience allowed them to play the song the wrong way in their head. it's not black sabaths fault the message of the song was received innacurately

+Rex Jansen those that see Satan in Black Sabbath are only bringing their own demons to the surface and projecting them on others. no matter how religious the are they all have hidden demons somewhere hiding inside that needs to be dealt with. why not just blame our insecurities on others. everyone else does it. I'm sure BBC has reaked just as much havoc in people's lives with all the propaganda they spread. nobody committed suicide over Black Sabbath vocals. Something else drew them to that level and that experience allowed them to play the song the wrong way in their head. it's not black sabaths fault the message of the song was received innacurately

Agreed. From what i have seen in interviews with all of the original Black Sabbath (okay, Ozzy is his own creature) they are quite humble and willing to talk. Those qualities alone make them a great resource for musicians who care to listen. I mean, these are guys that actually created something. Go to the source.

I think the time was very well spent. All the questions and answers were very revealing. I don’t see it as a lost opportunity. I got to know Iommi better, and am grateful for that. Is there more to the interview? It cuts off rather abruptly.

He asked questions that most would be afraid to ask. Artists should have to answer for what they have promoted. They too often get a pass.

He shows class in all his interviews, he has culture and class. He is quite wealthy as well, over a 140 million.

and candidly honest

He's very candid, and he's also very articulate. I hear him, and I have no problem with understanding his particular vernacular. However, when queried about how Ozzy was put out of Black Sabbath, he didn't mention that it was he himself, that gave the order to fire Ozzy...and yet, wouldn't "Do the deed" to Ozzy's face, himself. He had Bill Ward, the Drummer, break the news to Ozzy, that Ozzy had been fired from Black Sabbath. As we all know, Ozzy took that firing very badly...but who can blame him for that? Ah, well...it is what it is.

@@ronaldshank7589 Totally agree! Although Ozzy has said later that him getting fired "was the best thing that could happen" since he then got to do his solo stuff. Personally I think Ozzy had more to win, and so he did, rather than Black Sabbath who had everything to lose. Sure, Dio filled the spot, but Ozzy got a great fresh new start with a killer band and guitarist Randy Rhoads. It's nice that they later re-united Black Sabbath, love that "The End" live album (although Bill Ward doesn't play on it).

Another media hit piece. This interviewer is just interested in controversy. His motives seem to be to embarrass the person he's interviewing. It is so obvious. Kind of disgraceful. Really makes for an awkward experience. Tony showed a lot of class, not to get angry and aggravated.

...god forbid you ask tough questions, give me a break. What is the name of the show?? I love Tony as a musician. Black Sabbath was my very first concert. I don't see any problems asking hard questions, he's a grown man and a wealthy one at that.

Amen to that!

Need more teachers like you lol

I agree

Remember Lucifer was the music man in heaven

@@newzebulon5313 yeah, according to the Christian creed/cult his body was actually made of musical instruments!

Yeah, this interviewer was way out of line.

When Moral Majority types talked about heavy metal being "devil's music" way back in the 70/80s it was laughable. And to rehash it 40 years later to sound like you are asking "hard" questions just sounds ridiculous.

Interviewer = Wanker

OMG. He's not metal. Why do so many people think that? Even Tony himself has said this too.

Restraint from what? From punching this bloke in the grill?

There are quite a few things, that can lead to a person committing suicide. I encourage everyone that ever thinks about that, to GET HELP IMMEDIATELY! You don't have to die. Life is beautiful, no matter what you're going through. Stay alive, no matter what!

Most of their lyrics are more Christian than non Christian

​@@jeffreybabor2585this is something that really made me think about how full of shit most people are. We always heard black sabbath were these devil worshipping maniacs playing evil rock music and you actually pay attention to the lyrics in context and everything they say is against the devil. Fucking idiots out there think that if a band sings about something that must mean they are in favour of that thing. Like they can't even fathom the fact that a band would sing about things they are against

It’s a song about mental instability…just callin a spade a spade. If you ever think of hurting yourself call a friend or a hotline… you are not alone ✌🏻

The album Paranoid was on the turntable not the single and had nothing to do with her suicide.

Someone tossed it out of their car because it made them feel creepy.

What album

Yeah which album @Kilter Kaos

The first album, by the sounds of it.

That's a cool story..isn't it odd how things enter our lives sometimes🙂

Exactly how the Devil would talk.

How do you know? Have you spoken to him personally?

I dont like this interviewer.

The show is literally called hardtalk

Seriously! He’s so combative and smug! Meanwhile Tony is just like, nah it’s just what he saw in the world... 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@TestingTesting-tl7pz yeah but ig the question did make sense right ? Like hes also a part of the music so it creates a responsibility in a way for him too right ? I thought it was a good question. The way he asked too i think the question was of such nature it would have come off rude either way, i personally liked the question and it also gave me insight in what he thinks when tragedies happen and how the band's music impacts them and their future music. I really dont think the interviewer can persist to ask insight on statements that some other band member ( in this case ozzy ) said, this may cause misunderstandings and i dont think the show has such basis.

This dude interviewing him is the epitome of the ignorant people of the 70's who wanted to crucify Sabbath.

Agreed. He might as well tell Tony "shame on you for the life you lived".

Agree an like journalist's an the whole msm are whiter than white.....NOT.. .

But it turned into a good, candid interview. Tony showed class and stepped up to the plate to answer all the questions, which the interviewer appreciated. That is the way to handle abrupt questions: face them head on, and put the interviewer back on his heels instead of throwing a tantrum and getting intimidated.

Probably literally!

Ritchie would've cracked some jokes, most likely. The interviewer wanted to press Iommi about some sensitive issues and was probably surprised how candid Iommi was - a credit to Tony.

I know. Both Deliverance and Stryper have done covers of that song.

STRYPER did a great remake.

@@UnashamedlyGodSquad I don’t think anyone said that the members of Black Sabbath were Christians, just that the song “After Forever” has a biblically based message. However, there are Christian bands with names like Vomitorial Corpulence and Vomitous Discharge. And no, I’m not going to get into a debate over whether a Christian band should have a name like that.

@@UnashamedlyGodSquad - Oh, ok. Sayeth the all knowing keyboard God.🤣🤣🤣

@@UnashamedlyGodSquad They weren't practicing Christians, but Geezer Butler was raised Catholic and the song "After Forever" mentions the Pope and that "God is the only way to love." The real theme was anti-war, anti-destruction. They do wear the Cross onstage, so - yes - Christ will judge in the end: you, me, everyone. As He said, "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

That's true, man... 🤘🏻

I agree, But people do overlook the powerful effect of words...."There's power of life and death in the tongue"......that's why artists when they're older regret some of the things they sang about in their younger days.

as a "As a mental health professional"... Are we all crazy or stupid?Don´t need to be a professional to know that LOL

She may have also left behind a half eaten sandwich-did that make her kill herself?

simpleton

They've been kicking that dead horse since that record came out.. Ozzy had a song on his first solo record called "Suicide Solution" and they blamed that song for some kid's death, too. It's all bullshit to push you away from truth and reality because they deem it too harsh. Maybe they should take a listen to the tripe these kids listen to today and go after those idiots putting out that music.

Thank you for the context. I assumed the interviewer was just rude.

The problem isn't that the questions are hard. It's that they are not based in reality. For example, the interviewer is proceeding from the assumption that "After Forever" is a song celebrating Satan when it is the most pro Christ song that Sabbath ever recorded. He's not being "hard" or asking "tough" questions, he's being tabloid trash.

@@dewilew2137 that’s just how the bbc interviews people watch any interview of someone that they don’t think is on their side

It's also not likely this is the first time he's answered these questions. Maybe not all in one sitting but I'm sure by this time he's heard them all.

The Bible is occult

NuclearBunny970 They usually did it in the crowd...

Not on stage. They took them home to their 'lair' and sacrificed them on a black altar. Come on man, everybody knows this!!!

jnthemyst ......lol, good for them....lol

A midget was badly injured backstage during the Born Again tour, or so I've heard.

"On stage" is the key to that comment.. I often wonder what these musicians must do for fame. It's obvious to me now that while they may not literally sign a contract with the devil Sinister shit goes down. Look at every major act. At least one of the members or immediate family members suffer

He certainly seems the sort of guy you could bump into in the pub and have a good chat with.

I think that is because when he came up, the bands were not posers like they are today. That ethic of being real, permeated not just hippie culture but pretty much all of the youth and music counterculture.

+Basil II Macedonia he don`t looks right for the part.lol.

Not sure about that. He knew what a diminished 5th is. Basically, if you play Do, Re, Mi, So...and then go one piano key below "So", that's a Dim5. In the early days of the Catholic church, commissioned religious music could not have that note, ergo "the Devil's note".

The music was imbedded with occult witchcraft with subliminal brainwashing with suicidal undertones

He regrets all the people with weak minds who are susceptible to hypnosis who killed themselves because of the subliminal messages his music had in it

Rubbish! you know nothing about Sabbath, listen to lyrics, read the lyrics, it's about the dark side of life, it was and still is a reality. Even the bible doesn't just talk about the brighter side of life, we wouldn't need to read it if it was only about one aspect of life. Sabbath just told it like it is. War Pigs for example was a reflecting on war and corrupt politicians after their own greed, not thinking about the consequence when facing God in judgement. The song Black Sabbath was inspired by an experience Geezer had with an evil spirit that he suspected was conjured by an occult book Ozzy lent him and he threw it away asap! And it was the record's company for all their record covers. So as the old saying goes, you can't judge a book by it's cover. The only thing you could say was morally wrong was the drug dependance, which they regretted later. As far as their music being imbedded with occult witchcraft with subliminal brainwashing with suicidal undertones, I myself have been listening to their music since the early 80's and was never influenced or inspired to go into the occult or satanism, nor was I inspired to kill myself. So there you go.

+Tim Rubin Halcomb I was tripping balls back then

Jaw Tooth Me too

Sabbath always great....but have to admit, Dio gave them more depth. Tony and geezer are Kings!

+yadig jamesgang I disagree. i saw Ozzy too, Blizzard of Oz right through....but Dio gave Sabbath a powerful, dark tone that suited Tony's guitar better. to each their own

It's about religion in general, not just satanism at all.

​@@Adrian_Martinez1261 It's pro-God, for sure. The lyrics defend the Pope, and the song witnesses to the need to turn away from sin and hate and believe in God.

Lol, Cannibal Corpse is like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre of the music world. Not for everyone, but it has it's place, just as Black Sabbath does.

@@ilovebutterstuff Yeah, they have their place but they are kind of low level and adolescent. They are over the top and substitute shock value in order to cover up for their lack of taste and musical artistry. People of all ages can dig on Sabbath but I highly doubt that anyone will be listening to silly bands like Cannibal Corpse when they get older unless they are permanently infantilized.

Yeah, well no one killed themselves listening to the Brady Bunch. That's the difference.

How Do you Know? And Nobody has killed themselves to Black sabath either, You Do Realize That Black sabath was extremely popular so alot of people had their Albulms in they're A track, I'm sure alot of people that committed Suicide had other Albulms playing but people only Notice when it's Black Sabath

@@tonypage9302 8 track not "A" track no such thing as an A track unless your referring to side A side B

chea, words aren't responsible for what words say. Especially to impressionable children. No one is responsible. Just irresponsible.

We have Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift for that.

GriefTourist the reason why these suicidal people have albums like this is because 9/10 times it makes you feel less depressed or what not

Arham Imran lmfaoooo

GriefTourist These people had obvious psychological problems and were affected by something in the music that touched them off. But by no means is Sabbath, the Beatles,,or any other band that's had this happened to even remotely responsible. It's the sick twisted brains of those people.

GriefTourist JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. ..

Ozzie is.

No sh*t.

Rush's Xanadu...live version from the "Exit Stage Left" album....Awesome song and music!! One of my favorites.

+zodiacbluesbaby Exactly my thoughts.

"the content is a bit more genuine." Predictable and shallow more like - only the host and others seem to think it's clever.

Yes, the American approach is also annoying. I find the Anglo-American culture to be one of the less intellectual (copied by everyone else too).

There's a middle way between celebrity toadying and a Grand Inquisitor pose, which is: know your subject and ask interesting questions.

+zodiacbluesbaby I'm not getting that at all. The interviewer is probing, sure, but he wasn't exactly scolding the guy. He (the interviewer) knew to dig a little to bring forth a deeper answer to the interesting topic of Sabbath's connection to the occult.

abark well said..I was thinking the exact same thing, seemed a bit too much for this interview though..as evinced by the rest of the comments here.

No Bill, No Sabb.

Lol why be afraid of endorsing the Bible

It is badass 😎

It’s just a creepy sounding interval he heard in all the Hammer horror films of the day. Sabbath’s key changes often sound like a horror movie soundtrack. Hence, why Iron Man and Paranoid alone have been used in countless films. I’m sure he probably stumbled upon it and went, “oooh, that’s creepy, innit?” 🎸😎

Iommi & Butler were messing about with Mars-Bringer Of War.........educate yourself.

Proton2112 Once you find out you'd wish you never knew.

Interviewer blows... Iommi rules 😎 Should've told that clown a few things 😂 lol

Remember when the highs were comparable to the lows? Man, those were the days! I've been on a 8 year long low, and things just keep getting worse. Every blessing is a double edged sword and the only way I can get through it is by turning the distortion way up on my amp and playing along to some Sabbath, or Killswitch Engage, Danzig maybe.

Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say If they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize That God is the only way to love - from the song "After Forever"

Aiming for the Kingdom of Heaven blasphemy

Depends on who's wearing it. I have a friend who's heavily into the occult and is declaring himself a satanist...he often wears the inverted cross. To him it means whatever it means,ain't nothing about Christianity that's for sure.

Just for being a Sabbbath fan ? Brutal.

Funny how I don't see any Catholics wearing the so called revered symbol??? If its so revered then why isn't it present in the Rosary, the Priests Robes,,the Nuns habit???? Your argument doesn't hold water. That symbol is Satanic period. For every good and Holy thing in this World ,Satan has a similar bad,and unholy thing to take its place.

Here is one verse: Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say If they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize That God is the only way to love

Even then, it was never banned in the middle ages. There are numerous pieces from that time with the tritone. It is a natural interval within the western major scale, even Bach, an incredibly devout Christian, used it frequently.

@@nickdavis965 yeah, I'm aware. Western harmonic practice doesn't really work without it. The comment was more about how much the interviewer sucks.

Purple Haze begins with that riff

Interviewer blows...big time 😂 Iommi rules

Dogen Zenji That's not true dude.. bands like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Rolling stones, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Judas Priest, Motor Head, Megadeth, Pantera, Nirvana, Bauhaus(pure fucking gothic horror trip),etc used almost every kind of drug. White Zombie?ahmm their all albums are based on LSD but they never admitted for doing drugs.. Ozzy and Tony are the pioneers of heavy metal and doom metal man! just listen to these songs from Black Sabbath on acid “Electric Funeral,Into the Void,Black Sabbath,Planet Caravan(psychedelic rock),Children of the grave,Sabbath Bloody Sabbath,Symptom of the Universe” then you're completely doomed.. and you know what? Ozzy used to take LSD everyday for about 2 years xD dude he's Ozzy he is insane that's why he is knows as prince of darkness.

Its well documented that Ozzy and Geezer did acid for a year straight every day during the recording and tour of Vol. 4

Bill Ward has stated he played many concerts while tripping on LSD.

You can't do it everyday, unless you double the dose.

peter...true and that is a respectable premise. But hardly seems like worthwhile subject matter at this juncture. Boo to Iommi's people for setting him up for this interview after being ill. The problem I have with this wanna be interrogator is that he keeps pressing the answers as if he is going to get some hidden agenda. Some times the answers are just what they are

thts an insult to gay people

Dibidibidis MyNameIsMinho How so?

Apparently the interviewer is fraught with how and when he’ll be on his knees or back to get plowed or on the pole he’ll be swallowing with insipid fairy 🧚🏻‍♂️ glee - lust