Coped, seethed and malded so hard he died and came back to life to regain his WH40K crown.

It was my most favorite bit from the siege of Terra when Kharn was screeching at Sigismund to say something, anything, to be alive, and all he got was silent, mechanical hatred and Annihilation. Excerpt: "He never said a word. Never. Throughout it all, the Black Sword didn't say a thing. The monster. The ghost. The mere shell. What could be worse than this? What death could be as profound as this? What disappointment, what despair, could ever be greater? Khârn raged at it. He howled in fury, coming at him again and again, shrugging off the wounds. He wanted the old one back. The one with some fire in his veins. He wanted some spirit. Just a flicker of something - anything - other than this flint-edged, iron-deep hardness. They had laughed together, the two of them. They had fought in the roaring pits, and had sliced slabs out of one another, and at the end they had always slumped down in the straw and the blood and laughed. Even the Nails had not taken that away, for in combat the Nails had still always shown the truth of things. 'Be… angry!' he bellowed, thundering in close. 'Be… alive!' Because you could only kill the things that lived. You couldn't kill a ghost, only swipe your axe straight through it. There was nothing here, just frustration, just the madness of going up against a wall, again and again. The Nails spiked at him. He fought harder. He fought faster. His muscles ripped apart, and were instantly reknitted. His blood vessels burst, and were restored. He felt heat surge through his body, hotter and whiter than any heat he had ever endured. The Black Sword resisted it all, silently, implacably, infuriatingly. It was like fighting the end of the universe. Nothing could shake the faith before him. It was blind to everything but itself, as selfish as a jewel-thief in a hoard." Rest of the scene can be found on reddit. Absolutely bone chilling

So Khârn the Bloody then, he got the betrayer moniker post heresy.

Right before Dorn comes out of nowhere and bitch slaps him

One of the space marine chapters of all time

A true chapter of marine spaces

Jokes aside, they're easily the most 40k chapter.

The Black Templars are a chapter in name only, they are more like whole ass legion who wipes their ass with the codex.

​@@imquantum8009the 40kiest chapter of them all

I really like that idea. I’ve never really liked the 40k space marine numbers especially the 1000 marines is absurdly small for planetary operations. That’s one thing that drew me to the templars and I agree I like to imagine their numbers are huge

Well, from what I hear, the second part is already true, even about the 6,000.

And those that don't simply cant keep up with the Eternal Crusade the Templars are on. By the time they arrive in a system that the Templars were reported to be in, they've already left...and its been a decade since they did. Space is big, and Warp travel, while still FTL, is not instant.

​@@42NightsyesterdayI personally just x10 all numbers in 40k. Guardsmen included, because GW authors tend to massively underscale guardsmen too.

@@42NightsyesterdayI mean, I think it’s a reasonable number of marines for a planet if we’re being honest, since marines are literally 9 foot tall men in armor that can deflect tank shells with immense training, like scout marines have enough training to put real world special forces to shame and marines usually spend a few decades in the scout company before even becoming a marine. Lore wise these guys are walking nuclear bombs capable of taking on squads of well trained guardsmen in their own, let alone as a unit. Tabletop doesn’t really reflect just how absurd space marines are with their size, power armor, genetic modifications, and usually decades if not centuries of experience in field…

“They call me the Hero of Helsreach, as if their were only one.”

*Chapter

*thousand

Ever get the feeling that Angry Marines might have been Black Templars once?

@@robingraves9517 Successor Chapter. Split off because they even managed to get the Templars to think they're too angry. And that's saying something

@@joriankell1983 Successor Chapter* if you wanna be technical

That’s the funny thing, not even close. The Salamanders & Ultramarines are MUCH closer to how actual Crusade era holy knight orders acted. BT & DA are the fetishstically violent parodies of the worst of the worst men in history. Deadass serious, BTs are conquistadors

Except one is obviously completely unhinged

Unsurprising that a creature of darkness would be so terrified by such magnificent blinding faith.

You got me, who is he?

Brother Sergeant Lucernne, Sword Brother of the Black Templars and all round top fucking guy

Much appreciated, Edward 🙏

@@edwardheppenstall8690 you saved me so much searching lol

Actually one of the best space marine characters! His relationship with the scholar was so fun, honestly I like that black Templars really can be chill with any honorable imperial citizen who has proven themselves. It’s just all the cowards (most of the galaxy) that are the problem 😂

Their hyperfixation alternates between prayer and murder

As an autistic person, I can confirm this lol.

This. The Black Templars are the imperium distilled.

If I had to describe 40k to someone, and I was only allowed to show them one faction, I'd pick the Black Templars any day. Nothing else embodies the spirit of the setting as perfectly as these guys.

Blood Ravens are too busy stealing anything that isn't nailed to the floor lol

@@Bread-nx9fo They stole armor from the Templars at least once.

my two favorite chapters are the Lamentors and the Black Templars...

@@mrpizzacat8273 Respect.

Two best chapters indeed.

Sounds more like a Dark Angel Interrogator Chaplain to me...but it stilll works.

​@@Fifthmiracle They might be referring to an Edwin von Carstein video "When Space Marines meet Chaos Space Marines in Battle." It uses the comedy duo Key and Peele to show a Chaos Space Marine being utterly unnerved by a Black Templars fanaticism.

Ah, but they are very much like him. They are the anger and wrath Dorn had under the surface and rarely let out.

Least? A scouring Dorn is peak BT energy

Very true, given that the imperium is facing such threat rather than the great crusade of the emperor, it makes sense for chapters to have higher numbers than the codex 1000, clearly lots of chapters on the brink of destruction many times over as well.

careful who you are calling a heretic

I didn't know some imperial fist fans hated them Is there a reason?

@@mrpizzacat8273 I think it's probably that they're not as stoic or focused on fortification tactics.

​@@Dogmelter42probably because the Black Templats don't like the Last Protocol and its shown that they rather stay as Black Templars than reunite into a Legion again (again don't believe what i just wrote this 100% because i dont remember where i read this)

I mean, are they really Imperial Fists? Or might they be 2nd or 11th legion remnants that the Imperial Fists absorbed who all stuck together and then bailed into the Black Templars the first chance they got? Asking for a friend. Don't tell the inquisition

@@spugggaldon361 Could also be 12th legion loyalists.

Pretty sure that’s the opposite of taxes

Word bearers are literally just worse black Templars, and even worse they fell to chaos

@@Warmhammer the inverse is true

@@odinthomas2634 what about the word bearers is better than the templars

because they got s@#t done

BT have so many awesome Dreadnoughts in the lore. Brother Adelard from "The Glorious Tomb" and Tankred from "Damnation Crusade" come to mind immediately, but here are several others.

Canonically, Templars and Sisters fight together on the field more often than not. If the Eclessiarcy MUST call upon Space Marines, they prefer to use the Templars for obvious reasons.

@@KillerOrca Good, because for GW to miss out on that kind of synergy would be an actual atrocity.

I think sisters kinda despise templars because they view astartes as mutants, they're cool with custodes though@@KillerOrca

@@user-fv5ov2gf5v They tollerate the Templars more than most because their faith is equal to the Sisters. But they still dont see them as human.

Abandon shit himself.

Yeah they are probably the chapter that arguably gets the most results and makes the most of the resources they have at their disposal

​@@42NightsyesterdayThat's the Marines Malevolent.

@@cousinzeke4888 marines malevolent probably cause more damage than whatever Xenos/heretic they are sent to fight lol

My thoughts exactly.

Yeah about that. Emperor is a uber powerfull psyker, perhaps the most powerfull in the galaxy, certainly the most powerfull human one . Also how do they function? All the travel and communications technology in the Imperium is based on psykers (Navigators and Astropaths).

@@przemysawseredyszyn1405 But that's part of what makes them so cool, it the intolerance and blatant hypocrisy.

Heresy