Sup Tree?

You doing a video on this as well?

They should have been fined 100 million and lost their next 2 first round picks that they own. That’s a better punishment. Also, Quennville should be fired immediately. Doesn’t matter that Florida is 6-0. Winnipeg Gm should also be canned. Also, Kane and Toews need to be suspended from the team, as well as both of them including Keith need to be taken off the NHL top 100 list. Disgusting what happened.

@@JohnWick-pencil hopefully whoever mocked the victim will be outed

@@drunkwatchmandalorian3558 I have no doubt that Kane and Toews were involved. Why do you think they’re both currently on COVID protocol?

And he went on to ruin a 17 year olds life

What if it's not true about coach Q?

Quennville should be fired immediately. Doesn’t matter that Florida is 6-0. Winnipeg Gm should also be canned. Also, Kane and Toews need to be suspended from the team, as well as both of them including Keith need to be taken off the NHL top 100 list. Disgusting what happened.

Bluntly-F*** Quenneville, McDonough and the rest.

@@JohnWick-pencil punishing players is dumb. What could they have done?

Even if you’re just going to be accused of “cancel culture”

Do what's right. But the coach and AGM might have been threatened implicitly/ explicitly. Remember, this is Chicago and there's a very dangerous criminal underbelly.

@@antiantiderivative this isnt cancel culture. So many people covered this up for years. All need to be held accountable

@@kaptaan_original fuck the coach and gm lmao.

@@antiantiderivative I don't think this is anything to do with cancel culture. Cancel culture is pulling the hockey guys videos because you don't like his opinions. This is alleged sexual assault. One is a criminal act.

The fact they didn't get draft picks taken away like the Coyotes did is absurd, too.

They should get worse penalties then a fine

@@drunkwatchmandalorian3558 I agree. BTW I like your screenname.

@@bigjohn08865 Thanks

@@AnX8765 well said.

First. don't put the cart before the horse. The NHL has NO CHOICE but to do SOMETHING QUITE SUBSTANTIAL in terms of discipline to the Hawks no matter what ANY ONE THINKS. i will say KUDOS to DANNY WIRTZ to admit to the guilt and recognize that not only is POSITIVE CHANGE NECSSARY BUT REQUIRED. I fully expected this to be swept under the carpet because, when Dollar Bill was alive, that's what he would have done. I have been a Hawks fan for over 55 years and, the fact MY team would allow players to be treated this way, is beyond comprehension. Hopefully this sends a signal to ALL who are involved with organized sports that THIS WILL NEVER AGAIN BE TOLERATED IN ANY ASPECT. Whatever is done to the Hawks in terms of DISCIPLINE they have earned and deserve. Hopefully the people personally affected will recover from this and move on their lives in a positive manner and have a happy life. As for those who allowed this to happen your CAREERS ARE OVER. You no longer should be employed in any capacity in ANY SPOSRT'S TEAM SETTING.

Time to rip those banners down

@@HockeyNationHD God, this has to be bait.

@@HockeyNationHD Read the Jenner & Block report, all 107 pages of it. They've done a pretty good job at showing what kinds of crimes that was committed.

Nhl is about winning, its a bigger crime in thier eyes to cheat

What more can you expect from people from Shitcago.

It was Katie Strang too but that’s it 2 reporters on the story

@@alexanderjakel8001 Blackhawks fan here, fuck those people, if I knew who these people were, I would want them fired into Lake Michigan from a cannon. I’m also reevaluating my fandom going forward.

News in general.

It was hidden because the perp is LGBTP person and all this ”inclusivity”-stuff only leads worse examples. Anyway, if they only had this tenacity to investigate the Clintons, Bidens and their minions

Hell is a noun

@@lanceludwig5349 please use a swear that isn’t.

Lol you’re right but in his older videos he used to swear like a sailor. Just watch the Subban Weber trade video haha

not only is hell not a swear, its not a thing period

@@hotdogwater7037 It could be considered a mild swear, and it was once considered much more severe.

Besides the victims the other people i feel bad for are blackhawks fans they dont deserve this from there team i would imagine some will stop being fans of the team

Do you think the league should vacate the championship in 2010?

@@golfer435 no

@@yegman for now he is staying anonymous

@@yegman Its Kyle Beach; but i still havent heard what this "sexual assault" is. And tbh it kinda matters dude the dude just smack him on the ass in passing or was he rapey?

@@onebuffalo5402 Go read the report as it gives great detail about what happened and a lot of information that isn`t being reported or miss reported. It was reported to the players and the managers that it was sexual harassment and not sexual assault; so they handle the situation as most companies do when they are handling sexual harassment rather then a criminal case of sexual assault. I still feel sorry for Beach as the whole Chicago organization and the NHL let him down in this situation.

@@gaikokuhito5574 According to Ex-blackhawk players the team and the players knew the truth bud

@@gaikokuhito5574 Hey - man why are you introjecting facts into this ? arent you getting the signals - this is all for people to vent their outrage and signal to the world that they are superior - that if it were them in charge that everything would be perfect in the world . people like you rain on the party .

A perfect description of the photo of Aldrich holding the Cup, and shaking Mcdonagh's hand after the win, and posing between Kane and Mcdonagh on Wrigley Field.

Yep. Should have been unpaid leave, and then a full investigation the day after the Cup win. Still would look bad for the delay, but at least the investigation would have been that year and Aldrich would have gone to jail/prison right away instead of more inappropriate behavior at Miami Ohio and sexual assault in a Michigan HS in the UP.

@@JHockeyFan maybe not jail/prison right away since the justice system doesn't always work that way, but definitely charged right away and hopefully no more harm done to the others. They could've even gotten the police involved pretty much immediately without having to publicize it right away.

@@zjean3417 Guarantee ya there's dozen of sports scandals we'll never know about because it was dealt with internally to save negative PR

That's John McDonough for you. Image was ALWAYS paramount to him, damn the consequences.

Simple was to fire him and let the police do their investigation. Then, after the playoff run, announce why he was fired. While supporting his victims... but... Nah... they didn't even do it _after_ they got the cup.

And he's the GOAT for it!

@@danielryan8089 you’re GD right he is

Seconded. I read excerpts from the report and I’m shocked. I admired the job he was doing as Jets GM, but I’m disgusted by what I’ve read. Everyone in this room including Chevy has to be held accountable and face the consequences.

They should fire him immediately

@@manlymcmanface9932 I hadn’t read it yet, kudos to you for the information. He has to go.

What was Chevy affiliation with the team back then?

You should be happy. I know I would be if I was a Jets fan. Chevy is an idiot, a terrible gm and the Jets would be better off without him.

Westhead deserves a Pulitzer for his reporting.

Rick Westhead for MVP

Adding my $0.02, the Republican campaign headquarters was broken into TWICE in 1972, no reporting or police investigation whatsoever.

@@frogger1952 the Commies never get punished or even shamed for their crimes which is a great shame in itself

@@pale_saint How many tens of millions murdered by them in the 20th Century? Yet their acolytes (Castro, Mao, Chavez) are still venerated by Hollywood and on college campuses.

This made me think about Penn State and the hell that many students had to go through because of the scandal involving Paterno and Sandusky.

Money talks.

I was thinking the same thing. They're lousy this year. Don't reward them with a top pick in the next draft.

Bettman is a joke

If the Devils lost draft picks for the contract they signed Kovalchuk in 2011 or 2012, then Chicago should fork over draft picks for the next two seasons. And it has to be their own picks that they still have, not picks they acquired from other teams.

It isn't a substantial amount of money at all for an NHL team

The two examples that have been stated on this thread relate to on ice (competition) issues. I believe a $2M fine is not enough, and would not argue against draft picks being taken away, but the Devils and Yotes situations are a bit different.

Lets pray they really are cleaning house.

@@edwardofgreene they've dropped two already. I'm sure it's not going to stop there.

@@scottbecker4367 far from done. The players that (the alleged report claim) knew about the taunting on ice are gonna get the worst from this too. Toews... Kane... they had to have known. And that tarnished their good name right there.

There is absolutely 0 chance on gods green earth that Patrick Kane, Jonathon Toews, and Duncan Keith didnt know about this. Infact given Kanes own history Id put vegas money on he was the one cracking jokes about it. Their reputations are fried as well.

Nah. This is not Blackhawks fault, it’s the people’s who were not doing the right thing

@@pale_saint they failed to act knowing the information they did they choose greed instead of another humans well being… so its on them too just cause they didnt rape the guy doesnt mean they aren’t accountable

10-20 million and 3 of there own first round picks seems fair

Right? Like walking around with a blackhawks logo is kinda shameful right now.

0 chance that the leaders of that team didnt know; and with kanes own accusation history I find it even harder to believe he wasnt the one cracking jokes tbh

how do you know that there were multiple incidents - there is nothing in the independent report that indicates that . That would be important to the case - if you know that you should serve as a witness. please surrender to the court -for discovery and you can be called as a witness

Hawks fan here, and 100% agreed. I think any speculation that this "could" be a thing has now properly become one. Whoever was a part of it has to go. We all know who was wearing the "C" at the time.

@@danielryan8089 You trying to get rid of Toews now for no reason

@@leyladerben4227 I won’t defend Kane because he punched a cabby at a young age but what did Keith do?

@@JohnDoe-ly3wx I have no say on the matter. I just wouldn’t be surprised if it did.

@@JohnDoe-ly3wx Bro, if brent sopel knew about this, there is no way in FUCK that Toews didn't know. Let's be serious

@@HockeyNationHD blackmail

Best way to handle it would have used the day of the cup parade so no one would be near the arena and the arrest could go quietly. Like they had the ability. Now heads are gonna roll across the league.

@@HockeyNationHD Aldrich had very powerful friends in the organization that covered from him and his father was a very influential figure in the league as well.

​@@brendensiragusa5007 WTF ? why would anyone be arrested there was no crime that took place - there is no allegation that a crime took place .where do you people come up with this stuff ?

@@ryanfraley7113 "Aldrich had very powerful friends in the organization that covered from him" - I assume you meant for him - but if that is the case - why was he forced to resign as soon as the season ended ? "his father is very influential " he is an equipment manager for the sharks - is that a real powerful position - i mean i am sure it is if you play for the sharks and want new gloves - but otherwise ? you people kill me

can I say the same for Bergy? I mean he is on his last contract year with Montreal so he can leave after this season

In time it wont be; all names will in time be erased from the cup. So theres some solace in that.

Hopefully it will get XXXXed out on the cup, think it would be the second one.

That's an absolute disgrace that anyone who knew about what happened allowed for his name to be engraved on the Cup.

Ive got a really good razor blade if they need to borrow it to scratch that name off..

The blackhawks asked for it to be exed out.

Coach Q gets the benefit of the doubt. I don't trust anything Stan Bowman says.

@@kaptaan_original Even though players were apparently making homophobic jokes towards the victims? It's one thing to not protest, it's another to let stuff like that happen.

@@TinnieTa21 I agree with you. It looks bad. I think there's more to the story. I think people were threatened to keep quiet. Chicago, it's a dangerous city with the criminal element. The coach and AGM were probably threatened by upper management. The players might have been threatened with career termination. We don't know enough yet.

@@kaptaan_original read the report

@@kaptaan_original There were no threats. They all willingly abdicated any responsibility to John McDonough.

On the plus side, Hawks jerseys just got really cheap

As a Blackhawks fan, I think the team had has never, ever been lower than it is now.

@@kenkunz1428 yeah it's pretty hard to get worse than this

Go Read the report as a lot of information isn`t being reported correctly!! It was reported as Sexual Harassment not an assault so they handled the situation as an Harassment case and not an assault case at work. Improper investigation meant that this employee was allowed to walk away from the company rather then into a jail cell.

Me too

​@@gaikokuhito5574 i have read some things you have posted before -and you are very accurate . I'm going to say that there would very likely be zero percent chance he would go to jail for this . Although i wished they would have- because if the police had been involved- when they came to investigate and were told the story - the first group of cops would have had to call for backup because they would have been laughing so hard - that a guy a foot taller and a hundred lbs larger would have been sexually assaulted by that much of a smaller man all he had to do was say no and walk away like all the others apparently did after. believe me iv'e had it happen to me and i am no where near as big or imposing . After that - when they took a statement from the woman who had participated in the 3 some with them that night in the coaches apartment - then- that is when the criminal part would have probably fallen apart completely - no prosecutor in the united states is going to prosecute that no way . But 10 yrs later - sue a very wealthy team - with a 1/3 contingency - sure . The notion that this would be a criminal matter is keystone cops type stuff. it would never happen

It's like most businesses. If business is really going well, some crimes, regardless of the severity, will get forgotten until some time later. And that's when the true nature of the company is revealed. Next think you know, there is a full blown investigation which can lead to several arrests, fines, and other charges.

@@grahamdamberger7130 Yup, just look at the NFL. Look at how many guys they have that are sexual assaulters yet get nothing but a slap on the wrist and can continue playing. Looking at you, Ben Rothelisberger

@@grahamdamberger7130 most people in their positions would do the same thing, in the moment and time especially during that 2010 run

which makes settling hard unless they straight up pay him whatever the value was that was listed on the initial lawsuit lol

that is so not even close to the truth - i have no doubt there will be a settlement - but there are very relevant parts to this story that are being overlooked in the reporting and if I were the victim i sure as hell would not want to get into that . Nor do i think the team would want to place him under that type of scrutiny but the victim would/should want to settle a suit asap. The court of opinion is overwhelmingly in his favor and he surely would not want his story placed under scrutiny .

Agreed and well said. The events were horrible but sadly typical of the era. Yet, today, people are often addicted to the feeling of moral indignation.

@@HockeyNationHD As a Hawks fan it’s great the Bowman is gone but nobody wanted this to happen. This totally taints the 2010 team and the players and especially Quenville who was beloved. Players that went on to win the other years also have made it feel terrible and it’s sickening.

@@pauladeen5870 I mean, it’s true and was buried for 11 years. I’m glad the truth came out.

Hawks fans don’t need sympathy. I’d rather give up the 3 cups and see this be handled the right way then the way it went down. Lived in chicago and played hockey my entire life, this is fucking crazy.

yeah i agree very well done, very professional

Victim(s)

@@JG-hr8rl you're right. I corrected that.

@@nazcarcup all around tragedy. But you nailed it, hope they find their peace.

Money can't heal the trauma. Who knows what repercussions this has had/ continues to have on their life.

The worst part is I don’t know which one it is.

that usually is based in scouting, no? he's not named in the report really

Take a look at the Habs success...especially this year (last year was a fluke beyond flukes). He is both.

@@vedicardi His official title was "Director of Professional Personnel". So he's got 2 choices really. Either he's unbelievably upset that something like this was kept from him, or he's misrepresenting what he knew. In his interview he stated "I didn't know anything, and you can print that". Seems like an odd response to something like that. It just smells, really, REALLY bad.

Hmm...I think there are several other possibilities. Such a situation seems obvious after the fact. If this came to your attention vaguely as a possible rumor, something you wouldn't want to repeat etc. Living within this kind of problem is not like reading a headline of a news story. Sometimes this court of public opinion gets it wrong even though it thinks it always gets it right.

Keith has stated he knew nothing or even who the victim was.

@@yegman You're a fucking moron if you think Toews, Keith, and Kane didnt know what was going on. They ran that fucking organization and had a relationship with every single person in the building bc they were pampered. There is 0 chance they didnt AT THE VERY LEAST hear rumors about it.

​@@yegman And that is very possible - those players were playing a game in Vancouver or San jose when the event happened - but again there is no reason why they would even know much more than who Kyle Beech even was - he did not practice with them he would attend games in the press box probably along with lots and lots of other people . That he was a 1st round pick - they might know more - but not necessarily and exactly why would they be responsible for everything that happened to the guy - they weren't there - they had nothing to do with it - honestly i can not even understand where some of these insane accounts come from

I’m a Chicago fan. As bad as this story is, be more sympathetic for us having to watch the Bears on Sunday.

I'm just happy that Bowman is no longer GM.

As a Sens fan, I can relate with the season because of 2018-19 when we were complete trash, we didn't have our own 1st and because of all the off-ice drama... But man is yours much worse and damning. Your fanbase plus the victims have my thoughts and prayers. I would've added "at least you have those 2 other Cups" because the 2010 one is looking sour but there were complicit players on all 3 teams too so idk how much of the '13 & '15 championships get tarnished too. Man, I feel bad for you guys (the fans, not the team).

Yeah I feel terrible for the hawks... not the people sexually assulted. Oh and I feel even worse for the hawks bc theyll get a lottery pick for shane wright now too. Boo hoo gtfo and redirect your empathy to the deserving.

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I wouldn't say their wins are tainted. The players still earned those cups. However, as a long time Hawks fan, I'm glad they're going to be wiping their front office after this. It's the least they can do to have some accountability for the actions that should have been taken care of a long time ago.

Not a Blackhawks fan but I do have sympathy for the fans, this is a tough pill to swallow

@@scottbecker4367 their wins are 100% tainted and always will be. Every time people think of those cup teams they’re only going to think about child molestation and rape.

Dynasty?

@@Yupthereitism I won't. I've already separated them from the incident in my head.

Im a Blues fan and I feel for you on what you gotta deal with. I hope you and the fans around you really get the best from your team. This is sickening.

@@2Jim2u and Winnipeg

That was my takeaway from this video too never seen him so mad and "outspoken". Normally Shannon is very level headed and sticks to the facts when reporting on anything remotely controversial. For him to be this mad says a lot.

the truth shell set you free :)

@DecrepitOrigin888 Aldrich sexually assaulted a Blackhawks player in May 2010

Agreed.

@DecrepitOrigin888 hes a convicted of sexual assault crimes hes on the sex offender list, you dont get on that list unless you have committed crimes, the player is saying he was drugged and assaulted by this monster, the monster said he agreed to it, he is also accused by a former high school hockey player of also being assaulted by this monster, do you honestly think these are his only victims

@DecrepitOrigin888 Shannon has linked to a 107 page investigation to the incident. You can find all of the answers to your questions there.

@DecrepitOrigin888 you can figure out the player pretty easily from the info in the report

You really don't like how well Florida is doing

@@lanceludwig5349 Yeah, it keeps me up at night

If they don't resign, they get fired. Can't see quenneville in hockey again after this

As a Jets fan Chevey has to go. But will wait to see what Jets ownership and management do.

@@lanceludwig5349 has nothing to do with how well Florida is or isn't doing. This has to do with the fact that Quenneville put winning and not ruining team chemistry over the well being of one of this players.

That was a great season. You let it taint your perception of that season- I won’t.

Including Gary Bettman himself.

I primarily feel bad for the victims, but I agree the fans deserve some sympathy as well because it taints the 3 cups knowing that this was going on behind the scenes.

I feel bad for the people assaulted by this criminal

I feel a lot worse for the victims of the crime. And the way that the organization handled the whole situation, was... to be polite... less than flattering now. But I will admit, it's tough to wear my Hawks jersey, right now.

Even as a Sharks fan I feel super uncomfy knowing Aldritch’s dad is STILL equipment manager for the Sharks. Obviously his son’s actions should not reflect poorly on him but it shows how much family connections can keep you employed long after you should have been dismissed for abhorrent conduct.

@@dmac26official If I were a fan and had a jersey, I'd burn it. This goes all the up the flagpole. No way it doesn't.

Certainly sounds like the right time for a fresh start with a new team to root for. This whole situation is so unfortunate.

ya dont blame you, never liked chicago but they're definitely one of my least favourite teams now

I am 78 years old and thr Blackhawks were my dads favorite team, so they were mine. Living in Seattle and a happy Kracken fan. It’s just horrible

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he heard about it through the grapevine but all signs point to him not being part of the inner circle that was making decisions about this.

Seems like he was telling the truth. He was a relatively low level guy in the organization at the time (director of player personnel) so probably not aware of everything happening

I’m very certain he knew about it and didn’t do anything. I don’t believe a word that clown says

@@nintendofan7218 Pretty much but at the same time, since he wasn't in the inner circle, he's got enough leeway to wriggle out of it all. Either way, this looks pretty bad on the NHL in general. And the Blackhawks are going to mired in the shit for quite some time.

I have a hard time believing he never heard anything about it, but at least based on the report he wasn't in on any of the important meetings, etc., so he'll probably get away with it unless one of the named people subsequently fingers him.

Yeah, they sure seemed eager to get Tallon to hire him. Which he did, unfortunately. Yeesh.