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Жыл бұрын

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We can use trig substitution (letting x=tanθ ) to do a typical calculus 2 integral, the integral of 1/(1+x^2)^2. However, we will use Feynman's technique of integration (aka Leibniz's integral rule, aka differentiation under the integral sign) to come up with a very nice integral formula.
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@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos Жыл бұрын
He has another famous technique (at least for people who calculate Feynman diagrams) called using Feynman parameters. It’s a way of re-casting an integral you’re solving into a form with temporarily more integrals that make the original integral easier to evaluate. Of course this is only helpful if the remaining Feynman parameter integrals can be solved analytically or are at least less expensive to solve numerically (it’s usually the latter). Not sure if you’ve ever made a video on it, but in the same spirit of Feynman integration tricks!
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Dude you’re still interested in symbolic calculus?
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos Жыл бұрын
@@maalikserebryakov never know when it’ll help with an integral I’m trying to solve for research 🤷🏻‍♂️
@alozin5339
@alozin5339 Жыл бұрын
yo whens the next upload
@nicolasmendoza6183
@nicolasmendoza6183 Жыл бұрын
@@maalikserebryakov buddy, you're watching the wrong channel if you're not interested!
@abrarazad1571
@abrarazad1571 7 ай бұрын
You also watch him????
@plainbreadmike
@plainbreadmike Жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of these integrals with Feynman's technique videos, they're just so satisfying!
@SydneyWeidman
@SydneyWeidman Жыл бұрын
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@aurelio3532
@aurelio3532 Жыл бұрын
yes!!! keep making more please!!!!
@hfgfgnnfgng5562
@hfgfgnnfgng5562 Жыл бұрын
Fr ...
@gagadaddy8713
@gagadaddy8713 Жыл бұрын
This kind of Integration trick is really OUT OF THE BOX, only from the brain of those genius ..... not the ordinary maths student 😆
@epikherolol8189
@epikherolol8189 7 ай бұрын
Usually that's the case but we use these techniques after their inventions to carry on their legacy. That's how new discoveries are made​@@gagadaddy8713
@flowingafterglow629
@flowingafterglow629 Жыл бұрын
That answer is really slick, because if you look at it, the first term just looks like the integral of 1/u^2, where u = 1+x^2 and then the second term is just some version of the integral of 1/(1+x^2) Random factors of 2, I agree, but the form is pretty cool
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
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@user-hq7hi2sl2o
@user-hq7hi2sl2o Жыл бұрын
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@davidalexander4505
@davidalexander4505 Жыл бұрын
For definite integrals, I now see that there is actually no differentiating under an integral sign (requiring something like dominated convergence theorem) it's actually much prettier, we can write it as follows: d/dx (1/a arctan(x/a)) = 1/(a^2+x^2) Hence, d/da d/dx (1/a arctan(x/a)) = d/da 1/(a^2+x^2). By commutativity of partial derivatives, d/dx d/da (1/a arctan(x/a)) = d/da 1/(a^2+x^2). Thus, an anti derivative for d/da (1/a arctan(x/a)) is d/da 1/(a^2+x^2). (then work out these partial derivatives)
@NarutoSSj6
@NarutoSSj6 Жыл бұрын
Rip Chen Leu. Although maybe never uttered by name again, you have a special place in all our hearts.
@haaansolo8568
@haaansolo8568 Жыл бұрын
I learned about Feynman's trick when it came up in Howard and Sheldon's fight on tbbt, and have been stunned by it ever since.
@SahajOp
@SahajOp Жыл бұрын
What is that
@a_beats5529
@a_beats5529 Жыл бұрын
@@SahajOp tbbt is the big bang theory, a famous american sitcom
@6612770
@6612770 Жыл бұрын
What is the episode name?
@vishalmishra3046
@vishalmishra3046 Жыл бұрын
This video has an innovative new method of solving such integrals. Here is the old boring way for the same - set x = tanT which changes the problem to INT { cos^2 T = (1+cos2T)/2 } dT = T/2 + sin2T/4 = T/2 + 2tanT / 4sec^2 T = [ arctan x + x / (1+x^2) ] / 2
@AyushGupta-cj3sy
@AyushGupta-cj3sy Жыл бұрын
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@subramanyakarthik5843
@subramanyakarthik5843 Жыл бұрын
@@AyushGupta-cj3sy This Equation says about feyman technique
@AyushGupta-cj3sy
@AyushGupta-cj3sy Жыл бұрын
@@subramanyakarthik5843 buddy i mean to says indian 🇮🇳could easily solve these
@AyushGupta-cj3sy
@AyushGupta-cj3sy Жыл бұрын
@@subramanyakarthik5843 I understand Bhai But it's mostly in their higher studies But we have in 12
@subramanyakarthik5843
@subramanyakarthik5843 Жыл бұрын
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@jellowz3556
@jellowz3556 Жыл бұрын
Thank po sir! I hope you will also teach this topic "definition of exp z for imaginary z" under the linear equations with constant coefficient
@MathNerd1729
@MathNerd1729 Жыл бұрын
I recall seeing you do this in October 2018. Still a very neat video! :)
@Francesco-bf8cb
@Francesco-bf8cb Жыл бұрын
I've tried a differents (but much longer) method You know when you differentiate f/g you get (f'g-g'f)/g², so know it becomes a differential equation
@SlipperyTeeth
@SlipperyTeeth Жыл бұрын
"Why do we add the +C at the end?" It depends on what you consider integration to be. Normally we just think of integration as the opposite of differentiation. But then, what is differentiation? If you think of differentiation as a function from functions to functions, then integration should be its inverse function. But there isn't in general a left inverse for differentiation, because it's not one-to-one - and there are multiple right inverses. So you might consider "integration" to be the entire set/class of right inverses of differentiation - such that whenever you compose "integration"/differentiation, you pull back this abstract layer of set/class and compose them with every instance of an integration function. So differentiation after "integration" is just the set/class of differentiation after right inverses of differentiation - which all collapse to the identity. And there's the added bonus that with just a little more information (such as a single point on the curve) you'll be able to choose one of those integration functions to "act" as a left inverse for a specific input - so the whole set/class of integration functions can act as a left/right inverse for differentiation. For single variable calculus, that's about all you need to consider, and this is a perfectly fine way to define the integration notation. For multivariable calculus, there's a new wrinkle. You can have a function that's constant in one variable, but not another (Let f(x,y) = y, then d/dx (f(x,y)) = 0). So if you integrate a function in the variable x, then you pick up a constant in the variable x. And then if you differentiate that by the variable a, it doesn't always become 0, because "constant in the variable x" doesn't imply "constant in the variable a". Sure, some functions are constant in both x and a, but not all. So if we compose differentiation with "integration", some of those compositions will collapse the constant, but not all. We didn't add +C at the end, it never should have been removed.
@chanduudarapu7906
@chanduudarapu7906 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, lots of love from India 🇮🇳
@pirnessa
@pirnessa Жыл бұрын
One mistake: C is a constant in terms of x not in a. Hence, the partial derivative d/da C is not zero in general, it is just another constant in terms of x (which you added back in the end). Nice video! (PLEASE SEE EDITS BELLOW BEFORE YOU COMMENT) Edit: C may depend on parameter a however it wants. Thereby, C can be any function of parameter/variable a, and so, it might not be differentiable with respect to a. So in the end, the best way is just to find one antiderivative of ∫1/(a^2+x^2)^2dx. Then when we set a=1, we now know one antiderivative of ∫1/(1+x^2)^2dx. But we know that all the other antiderivatives of ∫1/(1+x^2)^2dx are obtained by adding a real constant to the antiderivative we already know, since g'(x)=0 for all real x if and only if g is a constant function. This is basically what @blackpenredpen did, but the reasoning that C is a constant with respect to a is not right although it is irrelevant mistake for the main point of the video. Edit 2: First of all my claim is that ∫1/(a^2+x^2)dx=(1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) where C:R->R is any function and R is the set of real numbers. If you think that I'm wrong and that ∫1/(a^2+x^2)dx=(1/a)arctan(x/a)+c, only when c is just any real number, i.e. constant with respect to both a and x. Then your claim against my claim is that if C:R->R is not a constant function, then (1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) is not an antiderivative of 1/(a^2+x^2) with respect to x. To help you, I will go through what you are trying to prove and why it is not true. So you need to take a function C:R->R which is not constant, for example you can think C(a)=a. Then you need to prove that (1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) is not an antiderivative of 1/(a^2+x^2) with respect to x. But you know the definition of antiderivative for multi variable functions, so you know that by the definition you need to prove that the partial derivative d/dx ( (1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) ) is not equal to 1/(a^2+x^2). But we know the following partial derivatives: d/dx (1/a)arctan(x/a)=1/(a^2+x^2) and d/dx C(a) = 0. So by the linearity of partial derivative you have d/dx ( (1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) )=1/(a^2+x^2). Thus, your claim is wrong and we have ended up proving that (1/a)arctan(x/a)+C(a) is an antiderivative of 1/(a^2+x^2) with respect to x if C:R->R is any function. In the comments you can find also different reasonings and how other people realized this. If you still disagree, please read the 50+ other comments in detail, read my arguments, read others arguments, read why in the end they realized that C can be a function of a. Our comments are not the best source so I also recommend studying or recalling multivariable calculus and before that one variable calculus. Even better is to go to talk people in some university's math department. If after this you still feel that I'm wrong, then G I M M E A V A L I D P R O O F of the direction you are claiming and cite to my previous comments and show where I went wrong so the conversation is easier and faster.
@tobechukwublessed4274
@tobechukwublessed4274 Жыл бұрын
A constant is a constant, independent of any variable... That's what I think. So it's pretty much staright, no mistake
@pirnessa
@pirnessa Жыл бұрын
​@@tobechukwublessed4274 Yes you are correct, but here C is only a constant in terms of x. So first we were just in the "x-world" where C is just a constant. But when we introduce the parameter aka new real variable a we are not anymore in the "x-world", we are in the "xa-world" where C could depend on a while it does not depend on x. It might sound nit picking but this is really important in multivariable calculus. One real variable: Here when we talk about integration in one variable we mean antiderivative aka inverse derivative aka indefinite integral, i.e. that if F'(x)=f(x), then ∫ f(x)dx=F(x)+C, where C is just a constant aka a real number. So the antiderivative ∫ f(x)dx gives the set of all functions F whose derivative is f. Two real variables: In this video to do the Feynman's trick our function depends on two variables, namely x and a. We want to have the same property as in one variable, that is, ∫f(x,a)dx gives the set of all functions F whose partial derivative with respect to x is f. Thereby, if d/dx F(x,a)=f(x,a), then ∫f(x,a)dx=F(x,a)+C(a), where C is now a real function, which could be a constant. Suppose that we allow C to be only a constant, this is a valid definition but not very useful which I try to clarify by the next example. Let F(x,a)=x+a. Then d/dx F(x,a)=1, and so, ∫d/dx F(x,a)dx = ∫1dx=x+C. If we don't allow C to be a function of a we don't have the nice antiderivative property mentioned above, i.e. F(x,a) do not belong to the set of functions obtained from the antiderivative ∫d/dx F(x,a)dx. More practical example why we want that the antiderivative property is satisfied is that we want to have working tool to solve partial differential equations. Also @Phoenix Fire has really nice comment also in this comment section which clarifies this thing. Hopefully this clarifies.
@tobechukwublessed4274
@tobechukwublessed4274 Жыл бұрын
@@pirnessa it's a cool observation, it really reminds me of solving ODE's by method of Exact equations where some constant may pertain to some variable after integration. But... If you examine carefully what he did, he differntiated both sides partially with respect to a... Now in partial differentiation, the only thing that is permitted to stand is the variable which we are differentiating with respect to, all other variables and/or constants will be assumed as constants for the time being, and what happens when we differntiate constants?... They vanish!
@tobechukwublessed4274
@tobechukwublessed4274 Жыл бұрын
But When we integrate partially, a constant function of the other variables apart from the one we integrate with respect to comes in place.... For instance.... integrate an f'(x,y,z) partially with respect to x will yield f(x,y,z) + h(y) + g(z) where h(y) and g(z) is any function of y and z respectively, be it a constant function or any other type.... But when we differntiate partially, all constants what so ever must vanish. That's my point...
@tobechukwublessed4274
@tobechukwublessed4274 Жыл бұрын
Finally, he was integrating, yes, but he differentiated while integrating, that's the beauty of that method. It's stainless
@neutron417
@neutron417 Жыл бұрын
Didn't thought bout that amazing technique!
@adamlopez2339
@adamlopez2339 Жыл бұрын
wow, what a nice way to solve this integral. Thank you for the video
@rjc3343
@rjc3343 Жыл бұрын
Bro, you're so talented, I have my undergrad as a mech E and still come to your page for fun! Please don't stop the videos lol
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
How’s mechanical engineering treating you 8 months later? Symbolic calculus isn’t going to help you as an engineer you know. I bet you’re thinking of dropping out.
@jmz_50
@jmz_50 11 ай бұрын
How are you currently doing? Just curious, good luck btw
@rjc3343
@rjc3343 11 ай бұрын
Man that's a very toxic outlook on math and its integration (no pun intended) into engineering. I use the skills taught in diffEQ almost daily. And yeah, it was the best decision of my life to leave active duty in the military and pursue that degree. I have a solid job that keeps me entertained daily. And yeah, I'm not a quitter, hence already having the undergrad when I wrote this originally, but thanks for your concern. @@maalikserebryakov
@rjc3343
@rjc3343 11 ай бұрын
I'm good, love the degree. Work with a lot of EE and Physicists that treat me and my ideas with a lot of respect. @@jmz_50
@lumina_
@lumina_ 8 ай бұрын
​@@maalikserebryakov why are you being so negative? You seem like a miserable person to be around
@frencyii5370
@frencyii5370 3 ай бұрын
You can also solve it by substituting x=tan(u), it allows u to simplify until coming to intregral(cos^2(x)), which is easily solvable with some goniometric formulas.
@dictetord12
@dictetord12 3 ай бұрын
Correct
@helloworld2024-h8i
@helloworld2024-h8i 2 ай бұрын
Did the Same thing :)
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
Any time I see a sum or difference of squares, I immediately reach for trig sub (assuming an inverse-chain rule "u-sub" wouldn't work).
@jirisykora9926
@jirisykora9926 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone wrote it before but if you plug in -1 for a it's going to be the same as for a=1 because of the nature of the formula, where a^3 and tan^-1 cancel the negative sign of each other.
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
7:20
@orenfivel6247
@orenfivel6247 Жыл бұрын
i thought U gonna do IBP w/ DI method😁. By the way 4:57 the constant C, it does not depend on x, but might be depend on a (Like in an Exact ODE solving procedure). Thus technically, when differentiate WRT a, we should have C'(a) which is another constant that des not depend on x, and eventually U will rename the last integral constant as C or c or whatvever u wanna 😁
@BetaKeja
@BetaKeja Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had to pause at 7:04 when he added the C back. Nope, C should not have been removed. It is constant w.r.t. x not a.
@epikherolol8189
@epikherolol8189 7 ай бұрын
​@@BetaKejaC is technically the arbitrary constant of integration which is just a variable number. But it is a number after all and thus differentiation of any number with respect to anything is 0
@joykukreja4270
@joykukreja4270 Жыл бұрын
Cool method. I did it by putting x = tan theta in 5 steps.
@maciejkubera1536
@maciejkubera1536 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! On 0:49 You forgot to square the constant c ;) ;) ;) ;)
@think_logically_
@think_logically_ Жыл бұрын
Is it legitimate to use Feyman's trick with indefinite integrals? An indefinite integral ∫ 1/(a²+x²) dx is in fact 1/a arctan(x/a) + C(a), where C(a) is not just a constant, but any function depending on 'a', but not on 'x'. Then the derivative d/da has an additional term C'(a) which is impossible to find ! In this case it's a mere coincidence that result is correct (if it really is). Take another example F(a)= ∫(x^a) dx =x^(a+1)/(a+1)+C(a). If you ignore C'(a), differentiate F'(a)=∫(x^a) ln(x) dx = x^a - x^(a+1)/(a+1)², then let a=0, you get ∫lnx dx = 1-x, while the correct answer is ∫ lnx dx = xlnx - x + C. BTW, I don't believe Feyman himself ever used his trick with indefinite integrals, so the title of the video looks misleading to me. 😊
@fyrerayne8882
@fyrerayne8882 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@nowhereman000
@nowhereman000 6 ай бұрын
If Bro can make an entire playlist on feynman's technique : I one over zero percent sure I will watch it completly.
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
Yikes. Reading through the comments, there are a lot of people confused about the purpose of the video. This is not a video on how to evaluate int(1/(1+x²)²)dx. It is a video about Feynman's technique using that integral as a simple example. The point is not to evaluate that integral. Anyone with basic calculus knowledge can do it by parts, partial fractions, trig substitution, and probably several other strategies. The fact it can be done easily some other way is why it is a good example. You can verify the result yourself using your favorite method - or, better, try doing it two or three different ways to make sure you can get the same result each time.
@harshbansal7524
@harshbansal7524 Жыл бұрын
sir please of this: integral of sqrt(x^3+1) w.r.t dx
@ivanegorov3425
@ivanegorov3425 Жыл бұрын
一个小小的建议,您可以在视频的演算完成后留一两秒左右方便截图,视频很棒,感谢您的付出!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
好, 謝謝! btw, 這部也有中文版的 (自己幫自己打廣告 哈哈) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc5ll7Riv97KhI0.html
@pashaw8380
@pashaw8380 Жыл бұрын
​@@blackpenredpen You need to take a read at the above comments made by @Sakari Pirnes . Some of those here are professional grad students who have gone through real analysis and functional analysis. In your video you made a mistake by considering C as a normal constant treated the same as that in single variable calculus. But the C here is not an ordinary C; it is a function of 'a' not necessarily zero after being differentiated with respect to the parameter 'a'.
@NurHadi-qf9kl
@NurHadi-qf9kl Жыл бұрын
Itu jenis intgral pecah rasionak. Maka dimisalkan 1/(1+x^2)= {(Ax+B)/(1+x^2)}+{(Cx+D)/(1+x^2)^2} Dari asumsi tsb, konstanta2 ABCA dapat ditemukan 1=(Ax+B)(1+x^2)+(Cx+D) 1=Ax+B+Ax^3+Bx^2+Cx+D 1=(B+D)+(A+C)x+Bx^2+Ax^3 Yg berarti A=B=0; D=1; C=0 Int menjadi
@dodokgp
@dodokgp Жыл бұрын
Nice! The caption of the video could have been "Integrating a function without integration"
@8bitenginedayo
@8bitenginedayo Жыл бұрын
Bruh this was literally a question in my homework today
@abhishekchoudhary4689
@abhishekchoudhary4689 Жыл бұрын
Just substitute x=tan theta you will get theta/2 + sin2theta / 4 where tantheta =x
@Zuhair_Sadman_Mahir
@Zuhair_Sadman_Mahir Жыл бұрын
Good
@Zuhair_Sadman_Mahir
@Zuhair_Sadman_Mahir Жыл бұрын
Best !!! Thanks
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
The purpose of this video is not to evaluate the integral. You're missing the point. Yes, you can do that to verify the result, but the point of the demonstration was not to evaluate the integral, but rather to show how Feynman's technique can be used. It's like using trig sub to evaluate int(x/(1+x²))dx. Of course, you don't need to use trig sub, just do u=1+x², but that's not the point. It is to demonstrate how trig sub works using an integrand that is easily handled some other way to check the result.
@MahfuzRaian
@MahfuzRaian Жыл бұрын
What is the rule of differentiating the integrand inside the integral?
@gio5969
@gio5969 Жыл бұрын
Calculus, the most powerful mathematics in the world and it would blow your mind clean off, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Can I integrate? Well, can ya, punk?"
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
In general, there are infinitely more functions that cannot be integrated than ones that can, so the ratio of integrable functions to all functions is zero. Therefore, the answer to your question is "no, I a punk, cannot integrate (in general)."
@PREMSINGH-bu2kf
@PREMSINGH-bu2kf 6 ай бұрын
Why can't we use partial fraction method ??
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
You may use whatever method you want. That's not the point. This video is demonstrating how to get the correct result using Feynman's method. You can get the same result using trig sub or partial fractions, or ...
@veerdabas5578
@veerdabas5578 Жыл бұрын
You could just solve it by substitution taking x= tanθ and dx = sec^2θ now in the denominator (1+tan^2θ) = sec^4θ now in the end we get cos^2θ and using cos 2θ formula we get θ/2 +cos2θ/4 now by subst. in the end we get tan-1x/2 + 0.5((x^2)/(1+x^2)) simplest method i could have thought about .Takes about 2 minutes to solve .
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
You're missing the point. Yes, you can do that to verify the result, but the point of the demonstration was not to evaluate the integral, but rather to show how Feynman's technique can be used. It's like using trig sub to evaluate int(x/(1+x²))dx. Of course, you don't need to use trig sub, just do u=1+x², but that's not the point. It is to demonstrate how trig sub works using an integrand that is easily handled some other way to check the result.
@arkadipray1210
@arkadipray1210 6 ай бұрын
What if we substitute x = tan a , Then , dx = sec² a da Substituting in above 1/(1+x²)² dx → sec²a/(1+tan²a)² da → sec²a/(sec²a)² da → 1/sec²a da → cos²a da → 1/2 × 2cos²a da → 1/2 × (1+cos 2a) da Integrating we get , 1/2 (a + (1/2) sin 2a) + c Now, since x = tan a And we know sin 2a = 2tan a/(1+tan²a) Therefore, sin 2a = 2x/(1+x²) → 1/2 ( tan^-1 x + (x/1+x²)) + c That's the answer....
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
That's not the point of the video. Yes, you can do that to verify the result, but the point of the demonstration was not to evaluate the integral, but rather to show how Feynman's technique can be used. It's like using trig sub to evaluate int(x/(1+x²))dx. Of course, you don't need to use trig sub, just do u=1+x², but that's not the point. It is to demonstrate how trig sub works using an integrand that is easily handled some other way to check the result.
@PapiCiencias
@PapiCiencias 6 ай бұрын
i love you man, you are very carismatic even not trying it
@SuperYoonHo
@SuperYoonHo Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jhondoe1618
@jhondoe1618 Жыл бұрын
No hay duda de que Feynman era un genio. Gran video, saludos desde Santa Marta, Colombia
@vietdungle1237
@vietdungle1237 Жыл бұрын
What a nice idea to integreat the seemingly impossible func
@XKhanBTC
@XKhanBTC Жыл бұрын
This video made my day🔥
@onbushshifting4000
@onbushshifting4000 Ай бұрын
So what happens when u have mutiple parameters?
@manjumanl5279
@manjumanl5279 Жыл бұрын
Just one question here ; Who gaves you the right to deffereciate partially ????? please explain !
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
Leibniz
@manjumanl5279
@manjumanl5279 Жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Hhhhh , simple ,hhhhhh
@DavyCDiamondback
@DavyCDiamondback Жыл бұрын
So does it wind up not mattering that the value of c, for any constant boundary conditions, is variable with respect to changing the value of a???
@user-wu8yq1rb9t
@user-wu8yq1rb9t Жыл бұрын
Feynman is here! ... Cool I love Feynman (he's my favorite scientist ever).
@dr.rahulgupta7573
@dr.rahulgupta7573 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation 👌
@MochaE44449
@MochaE44449 6 ай бұрын
I have no idea what any of this is, but it’s fun to watch
@kokainum
@kokainum Ай бұрын
How about the integral of 1/((1+x^2)(1+x^y)) over (0,inf)? I've heard it doesn't depend on y and it's always pi over 4, but idk how to prove it. I guess it's using Feyman's trick.
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
If you are integrating wrt x, then y is treated as a constant.
@oraz.
@oraz. Жыл бұрын
This seems easier then trig substitution
@juhakivekas2175
@juhakivekas2175 Жыл бұрын
Man, that was beautiful!
@rafikyeghoyan6634
@rafikyeghoyan6634 Жыл бұрын
why are u allowed to swap differential and integral?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
Leibniz’s rule
@venkybabu8140
@venkybabu8140 10 ай бұрын
Write all the numbers on the number line with powers and find what is left. 1 square. 2 3 gap 5 6 7 gap 10 11 12 13 14 15 gap 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 gap and so on. Highest gap is somewhere around 300 and after that no gaps. Higher integrals merge. That's why the universe has a huge black hole rubber band around it.
@arpanmukherjee4625
@arpanmukherjee4625 6 ай бұрын
I came here after Howard mentioned about it in TBBT to an answer to Sheldon's question.
@averagegamer9513
@averagegamer9513 Жыл бұрын
Feynman technique of integration is OP!!
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 Жыл бұрын
known for more than two centuries before Feynman
@gregotieno5457
@gregotieno5457 Жыл бұрын
wow my math guy🔥👊💪
@bottom-up1981
@bottom-up1981 Жыл бұрын
物理里这种操作真的多,代数求和或者积分结构加偏导,真的是很漂亮的做法
@pashaw8380
@pashaw8380 Жыл бұрын
然而他在影片裏展示了錯誤的訊息,他將C看成了一個普通的常數,但C并不是一個普通的常數而是一個C(a)的實變函數,他在影片裏把它看作了C(x)因此直接偏導得零,這是一個數學裏很大的錯誤(即使他很幸運地得到了正確的結果),他思考的不夠嚴謹,沒有往多變數微積分的方向去思考。如果他瞭解汎函分析和實變函數論,他就不會犯這個錯誤。倘若你用已知 ∫ 1/√(a² + x²) dx = ln ∣x+√(a² + x²)∣ + C 的訊息去用他上述的方式解 ∫ 1/∛(a² + x²) dx 你就會知道我的意思了,不會得到正確的答案。費曼的方法其實就是萊布尼兹的積分法則,但萊布尼兹法是建立在有界的積分上,并且要遵守收斂定理,不可隨意亂用因爲那是有局限性的。這裏的作者拿它來解不定積分就是一個錯誤的做法了。這個如果不去做深入的講解會誤人子弟的。數學是一個非常嚴謹的學科,不能有漏洞的。
@bottom-up1981
@bottom-up1981 Жыл бұрын
@@pashaw8380 多谢老哥指点,我并非数学和物理出身,做的也是一些无关紧要的脏活,很多东西确实不太了解。
@bottom-up1981
@bottom-up1981 Жыл бұрын
@@pashaw8380 对于泛函,我就在分析力学,qm以及工程数学中有浅薄的了解,推导和证明是很快乐的事情,但更多拿来算。
@illumexhisoka6181
@illumexhisoka6181 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant First time seeing this trick
@WizardAmbrose
@WizardAmbrose Жыл бұрын
I have a question for you. If Sam has 2 apples, Rick has 10 apples and Sandra has 3 apples, Calculate the distance between Earth and Sun.
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 Жыл бұрын
This is not an appled math class
@aserioussalamander9475
@aserioussalamander9475 Жыл бұрын
Me: (10 years since doing calc during first 10 seconds of the video): *slaps head* "of course!"
@s.m.m99203
@s.m.m99203 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@nishantmiglani1952
@nishantmiglani1952 7 ай бұрын
wait what about when a = i, you get the integral of a real function as a complex function ??
@zhelyo_physics
@zhelyo_physics Жыл бұрын
Love this!
@chivoronco4853
@chivoronco4853 11 ай бұрын
The constant C may not dissapear by taking partial wrt a since it may depends on a. With this he dont need to add C at the end 8:52
@user-jv6yh3we3y
@user-jv6yh3we3y 9 ай бұрын
This is what I really wondered about.. Could you explain why it shouldn’t disappear?
@user-jv6yh3we3y
@user-jv6yh3we3y 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t understand why there should be constant at the end. I thought that the fact that lhs is an indefinite integral doesn’t fully substantiates the suddenly appeared arbitrary constant, but the constant must be there anyway.. So there must be some reason the constant remains there, and I think your explanation help me understand it much better
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
In this case, +C is +C(a) for a=1, since a=1 was the condition given at the beginning.
@aurelio3532
@aurelio3532 Жыл бұрын
absolutely fantastic
@learnwithShivam
@learnwithShivam 7 ай бұрын
I am in 12th STD,.. this question came in my unit test .. not joking seriously 😳
@kavyapatel9939
@kavyapatel9939 7 ай бұрын
Bro its very easy question substitute x = tant and you will get answer
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
​@@kavyapatel9939or use partial fractions or any other of several techniques. The point is to show off Feynman's technique using an integral that is easy to evaluate other ways, so you can verify the result.
@dorol6375
@dorol6375 Жыл бұрын
What do sin(cos(sin(cos(sin(cos..(x) and cos(sin(cos(sin(cos..(x) converge to?
@saranshkushwaha7040
@saranshkushwaha7040 6 ай бұрын
Its a very easy again put x= tan∅ You very get cos²∅ Then the Integral shorts to ∅/2+1/4sin2∅ Putt values to get I = 1/2tan-1 x + 1/2(x/1+x²)😊
@aniketde357
@aniketde357 8 ай бұрын
what if i took x=tantheta? wont it be shorter
@markproulx1472
@markproulx1472 Жыл бұрын
That’s wild!
@madhavharish2575
@madhavharish2575 Жыл бұрын
Bro!! you could have done this by just substituting "x" as "tan theta", which will give you integration of Cosine square theta w.r.t theta and that's very easy to solve without using Feynman's Technique!! Btw the Feynman's technique is excellent!!😁
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
Yes, you can do that to verify the result, but the point if the demonstration was not to evaluate the integral, but rather to show how Feynman's technique can be used. It's like using trig sub to evaluate int(x/(1+x²))dx. Of course, you don't need to use trig sub, just do u=1+x², but that's not the point. It is to demonstrate how trig sub works using an integrand that is easily handled some other way to check the result.
@prakashgupta8342
@prakashgupta8342 Жыл бұрын
Integration of 1/(1+x⁴) please
@shone7064
@shone7064 Жыл бұрын
It's so reminiscent of eigenvalue equations
@necro5379
@necro5379 Жыл бұрын
Can be done IBP.
@arjun_.16
@arjun_.16 Жыл бұрын
just solved this question in my JEE online course.....
@Hxkhxh
@Hxkhxh Жыл бұрын
i also
@almazchati4178
@almazchati4178 Жыл бұрын
Probably this technique was known long before Feynman. I used to use it not knowing that it was his technique.
@ritikraj26_
@ritikraj26_ Жыл бұрын
Wow. Why did I never think of this?!?
@Shivam-ee2pd
@Shivam-ee2pd Жыл бұрын
How do you integrate 1/(x^a+a^x)?
@gheffz
@gheffz Жыл бұрын
I think it pretty good... and as you end with, cool!
@marcogelsomini7655
@marcogelsomini7655 Жыл бұрын
Feynman was a crazyyyy dude
@mathematicalguru2602
@mathematicalguru2602 Жыл бұрын
Put x=tan theta you will see a magic 😀😀
@yusufshaharyar8528
@yusufshaharyar8528 Жыл бұрын
Isn't there a much traditional method We can add and subtract x² And then separate the two terms from it Like (1+x²)/(1+x²)² - x²/(1+x²)² The first term here can be integrated easily And for the second term, integration by parts can be done by taking just x as the first function and the rest as second function
@The-Devils-Advocate
@The-Devils-Advocate Жыл бұрын
Yes, but this is another way that can be more interesting
@dyhsehehb6232
@dyhsehehb6232 Жыл бұрын
Substituting x=tan(theta) is better
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Cant we do partial fraction decomp ?
@The-Devils-Advocate
@The-Devils-Advocate Жыл бұрын
@@maalikserebryakov but would that be the Feynman trick?
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@The-Devils-Advocate there is no feynman method
@sotiris41664
@sotiris41664 Жыл бұрын
I am left stunned with Feymann's genius. This whole year from January till now, that I am learning calculus, I have not seen such a technique! By the way I am 14, so I learn calculus while being a school student, strange but true.
@John-pn4rt
@John-pn4rt Жыл бұрын
Be stunned that Leibnitz came up with this two centuries before the genius of Feynman! Feynman's being a special case.
@sotiris41664
@sotiris41664 Жыл бұрын
@@John-pn4rt I didn't know that. Generally speaking I don't know much about geniuses in the field of maths and physics, when I learn such techniques I just say what a genius was this man. Thanks for telling me.
@tapankumardas3292
@tapankumardas3292 Жыл бұрын
man of action.
@whilewecan
@whilewecan 5 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@helloworld2024-h8i
@helloworld2024-h8i 2 ай бұрын
I used regular trig sub and got the same answer...
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
You can evaluate this integral at least three or four different ways. That's not the point.
@kevinz8215
@kevinz8215 Жыл бұрын
why cant the a=-1?
@fj2147
@fj2147 Жыл бұрын
can you make a video of limit integration?
@xenoxander9274
@xenoxander9274 6 ай бұрын
I have better soln. What if we add and subtract x² in numerator, and then solve ...
@nada88882
@nada88882 Жыл бұрын
Yo can you make a video on how to get better at math? Ive been struggling for so long
@sanyamalhotra6834
@sanyamalhotra6834 Жыл бұрын
damn why dont they teach these bangers at school, this is so coool
@VijayMishra-uz5dc
@VijayMishra-uz5dc Жыл бұрын
Integrate 1/(x²+a)^n+1 from 0 to infinity . Can you integrate it
@glorymanheretosleep
@glorymanheretosleep Жыл бұрын
Very complex, was this the right answer?
@Trizzer89
@Trizzer89 11 ай бұрын
Wha I dont understan about Feynmans trick is how do we know which function to start with. Just guess?
@Zeusbeer
@Zeusbeer Жыл бұрын
I love Leibniz rule
@nimmubhai4779
@nimmubhai4779 5 ай бұрын
can we even find the integral of 1/(1+x^2)3 ???
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv Ай бұрын
Could try partial fractions.
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie 9 ай бұрын
Feynman was the man!
@stoerre
@stoerre 7 ай бұрын
I personally would just factor it and use integration by parts.
@corentinsoulier5607
@corentinsoulier5607 8 ай бұрын
What is calc 2?
@NazmulHasan1144
@NazmulHasan1144 Жыл бұрын
Watching from Bangladesh 💙
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