Blacksmithing - How To Forge An Eye - Difficulty: Easy

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Joshua De Lisle

Joshua De Lisle

7 жыл бұрын

Watch Joshua De lisle AWCB walk you through the creation process with his hand forged works of Art and Luxury items.
How to forge series and blacksmithing tutorial
In this episode Joshua demonstrates the processes with a lesson on how to professionally form an eye for industrial ground ankers.
[*Techniques used*]
forging
bending
cutting
punching
welding
heat treatment
finishes
[*Difficulty rating*]
Fundamental
Easy
Moderate
Expert
Elite
[Time to beat]
50 seconds to form and 50 seconds to weld
[Starting stock]
20mm round x 1500mm Mild steel
Happy forging a life worth living!
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@stevesilverwood9363
@stevesilverwood9363 4 жыл бұрын
Regulators seal on the bullnose not the thread. Change the regulator if it’s leaking!
@dimboolabladeworks7927
@dimboolabladeworks7927 3 жыл бұрын
Just catching your channel so a few years late , but i did a job for wind mill anchors, very similar to what you made in the video , company supplied me with the steel bars , I worked on $4 AUD ($2.60 USD ) Per eye and $2 AUD a weld , and $4 AUD per 8 inch long threaded section for a total of 1200 units supplied for the wind farm up the road here , big boss told me after i could have added another $4 and no one would have blinked , shows you can be too cheap , but i made good $ for the 2 weeks it took me to do them all ( 15 days total ) i think the eyes took 5 days the welding 5 days and the threading and heat treating the rest of the time , i had 1 casual employee help me and used a induction coil to heat the bars .. like your channel ! cheers
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome well done. It's great when it pays and is fast to produce. Hope you get more like it. Cheers J
@uvmetalworkingfabrication1873
@uvmetalworkingfabrication1873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip about unbending and then rebending to tighten up a wrap!
@WG1807
@WG1807 7 жыл бұрын
That was good and interesting that you worked out that repeating the work in the jig, back and forth eventually works out the kinks and trues up the form. For taping threads I always look at the end of the thread (bottom of a bolt as opposed to the head, or bottom of a regulator thread) and look from 'end-on', so that the bolt end (or regulator stem end) is facing me. Then wind on the tape in the direction the same as you would rotate that thread to tighten. So if it's a RH thread, wind on the tape clockwise. if it's a LH thread, as in this case, wind on the tape counter-clockwise. I've made it sound so complicated, lol. Little rules and ways you get fixed in the mind and remember forever. Look end-on, wind the tape the same way as the tightening direction.
@AnatoleumP
@AnatoleumP 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@kensmapleleafretirement
@kensmapleleafretirement 5 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant. Each individual has to decide what their time is worth to them. I might do a couple for free and fun, but you couldn't pay me enough to do 130. That is a serious days work. Thanks for taking the time to show us this jig, it is a big time saver....
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken! All the very best. Cheers J
@brechfaknives8187
@brechfaknives8187 4 жыл бұрын
loving that jig!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 жыл бұрын
Still working well. Cheers J
@manmachinemake3708
@manmachinemake3708 7 жыл бұрын
At a labor rate of $80-100 per hour (American). 3 min per unit, 20 units per hour = $4-5 each labor only. but higher volumes recieve a discount up to 20% I quoted round and square 2" belt buckles for a local leather craftsman (renaissance fair) and was @ ~$6 each based on the same criteria (incl. materials etc). He was not willing to pay that since he had been buying Indian made copies for $3.50 May I give a few tips from a long time welder/fabricator/smith .... 1. PTFE "teflon" tape is not needed for that type of connection nor is it for sealing any connection. Tape is only used as a lubricant for the threads & that type of connector seals only with the ball/socket. If a threaded union needs sealing, a paste is the correct medium to use. 2. keep all glass (phone) away from sparks/hots. One speck of spatter will shatter any glass in an instant. Keep up the faith ! Todd
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
Bless you and thank you Todd, yes thats roughly how I worked it out to be also just in £'s. I get what your saying about the PTFE and your right, however it was leaking very slightly and PTFE was what I had at hand and worked, its also cheaper than buying the paste. My camera has replacable lense protectors for just that reason, its a special go-pro like version that is dust proof and shock proof. otherwise you are right again also! Thank you Todd for your support and encouragement, It means alot to me, J
@johnnygoins7457
@johnnygoins7457 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing when he was doing that I was like what is he thinking
@olivermulliss7114
@olivermulliss7114 5 жыл бұрын
It might be because it's 4am but what measurements spacings and how did you work out the sizes for the jig, what size diameter material is this your using? I like the step down to have the two same size parts in the vice for a good grip. Thanks.
@jeff1865
@jeff1865 6 жыл бұрын
hey Josh, When it comes to set jobs like the one you just completed, the charge is not per hour but is per job. We have contractors bid on jobs for us and the charge is per the job (Labor, Materials, consumables, etc...) then there are repair jobs where we have contractors come in and do jobs that cannot be bid on per job as it is unknown as to what the issue is so then the contractor charge is per hour plus materials and consumables. Most people do not know how complicated it can get when dealing with companies and subcontractors. By the way, amazing job you did there.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Sablich thank you it's good to hear different experiences. sounds like a good way around it. the job piece work and it payed well doing it fast. j
@beammeupscotty1955
@beammeupscotty1955 6 жыл бұрын
You don't use thread tape on that sort of fitting. The seal takes place with that conical shaped end, not with the threads. The threads are just there to apply pressure to that seal. That is the way it is done in the U.S., anyway.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right scott. what ever was making it leak though it still did the job at stopping it.
@gismosforge1395
@gismosforge1395 6 жыл бұрын
When a conical seal fails, usually from over torque, you have one more chance to make the seal on the bearing surface behind the cone. Then you are left with sealing the threads to prevent leakage. Use of the alternate strategy is effective for getting you through the day and beats sending a gas bottle back to the supplier. That is the way I do it in the USA anyway.
@seandunwoodie8478
@seandunwoodie8478 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadelisle from my experience it's a different type of PTFE tape it typically comes in yellow packaging rather than the white it's for gas rather than water fittings it's a little thicker but you have to use what you have to get the job done
@chsm72
@chsm72 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty insane, but proficient. Well done.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! A few more tweeks and I recon I could double the time again. If I used MAG for welding and outo feed (sloping rack) into the gas forge. I think it would be a good earner if I can get the contracts for large amounts.
@danielmoss2089
@danielmoss2089 7 жыл бұрын
Hay josh great video. Its engineering stuff and i do quite a bit of it so around £2.40 for one then stock. But that would give me around 5mins a unit at that price. Its all in the speed i guess. If i was to do it on the hammer it would be round £1.60 a unit is but i think that is high for drop forged parts.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan! Interesting.. if you were to drop forge them though you would have to include the cost of milling the dies so you would need a large amount to cover the minimum cost. but with a 4 minute jig you can't go wrong. How are you doing anyway, hows that lovely massy?
@johnnygoins7457
@johnnygoins7457 4 жыл бұрын
You always have to think. about consumables as they are what gets the job done ,so charge accordingly but be gentle in the end.Great work enjoyed watching
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Johnny. cheers J
@edvaldoeloi4756
@edvaldoeloi4756 4 жыл бұрын
Show 👍 tmb trabalho cm isso
@dayanandlohar8380
@dayanandlohar8380 4 жыл бұрын
Veting for your new videos post's
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've got plenty to come just never enough free time to do it. Thank you for your patience. Cheers J
@johnwaw6363
@johnwaw6363 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it but what will these be used for?
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
Hey John, forming eyes are usefull for many things, these specifically will be used as ground ankers for hop farms.
@evanpenny348
@evanpenny348 6 жыл бұрын
Anchors?
@sajidattar4749
@sajidattar4749 4 жыл бұрын
Make the video on , to make circular ring with same thickness of rod And diameter of ring is 100 cm
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 жыл бұрын
It would be the same but with a 3.33cm thick rod. May have to cut a 10° angle on the end so it closes up fully. Cheers J
@sajidattar4749
@sajidattar4749 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you....this video helpful for mi
@evanpenny348
@evanpenny348 6 жыл бұрын
Letting a garden hose dribble water down the side of the LPG bottle will stop it freezing. Its unbelievable how little water will achieve this. Good vid though.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Penny thank you. Yes I've since submerged a bottle in a large tub of water and eventually froze the water and needed to chip the ice off. Having if flow would work well as you suggested. Cheers j
@evanpenny348
@evanpenny348 6 жыл бұрын
I have used this method many years as a commercial potter with complete success.
@WG1807
@WG1807 7 жыл бұрын
Labour for those: You're making 20 an hour. I would want £1.50 each, but would initially quote £2 each. That gives you room to be haggled. If I really wanted the work and depending on who it is, I might get squeezed to £1 each. That's why it's best to begin at £2, else you will end up doing them for a quid ! Doing large numbers like that I would be amenable to discounts anyway. I made a pair of fabrications that are each half of a set of bending forks that fit in the post vice. They're adjustable across quite a range of inches (between the forks) and can become differing diameters by slipping collars over the parent forks (16mm round). Its only a short piece of 2 x 2 angle iron and 2 little pieces of 16mm round for each half of the tool. I copied the idea from Rory May's channel. They're very handy.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
I like it! Rory may is awesome... I would say thats about the right price what I would take home but I would add a bit more to cover costs running of the workshop etc, Its been very intersting hearing others pricing on facebook also. Thank you for commenting!
@WG1807
@WG1807 7 жыл бұрын
You're right! Make it 50 bob each for labour, starting price. Who's old enough to remember what that means? Of course you would have to add the steel cost and the consumables also (gas, welding rods) and you charge those at 'retail' price (a modest profit then). I tend to include the running costs of the shop as part of the labour cost and only charge for material and consumables where they are specifically part of the job.
@dayanandlohar8380
@dayanandlohar8380 4 жыл бұрын
More videos posts by KZfaq channel please
@doug817th
@doug817th 5 жыл бұрын
Right about $400 labor, plus materials and gas.
@terencebatley6756
@terencebatley6756 7 жыл бұрын
David Richards,please explain how Stick welding is easier and BETTER than Mig Mag.I am a Welder with 50 years of working on pipelines,oil rigs,ASME1X.certs.I dont see how on production work or any other,MMA is easier and better than Mags.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
I beleive its to do with the slag covering of the weld that insulates the weld cooling it slower making the weld less brittle and increasing its toughness.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think stick welding is easyer but rather learning to stick weld makes you a better welder because generally a good looking stick weld has also good root fusion while a mig weld can look good but have no fusion.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you though that genrally for production a mig/mag welder would be my first choice for that reason. in most cases for blacksmithing were a only little beads are needed infrequently I would always suggest a stick welder for simplicity and cost effectiveness because you wont have the cost of renting bottled gass and they store neatly away when not in use.
@terencebatley6756
@terencebatley6756 7 жыл бұрын
Im talking about time served welders who know what they are doing,not someone who buys a toy welder from machine mart and thinks he is a welder
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
yes for production welding yes a Mig Mag would be suitable, when I worked for Exmac automation and McConnells I used Kempi and Miller 3phase top of the range MAG welders and often welded 1" plate doing runs that were longer than a meter. perfect tool for that job. but keeping it in context we're talking about blacksmiths, and as a blacksmith welding isn't used to such an extent otherwise its a fabricators job, in this case I was asked to weld the eyes, at that moment I didn't have mixed gas for my small MAG welder which would have been expensive to buy just for that project, but my 220amp oxford was fine to go with just a single pack of 3.2 6013 electrodes stored in my (dry)cuboard. I beleive this to be the norm for blacksmiths to not be welding continuously and so I would suggest that a stick welder is a more appropriote welder to be familiar with. do you agree?...
@jojomama4787
@jojomama4787 7 жыл бұрын
I'd think this guy might wheel that little gas forge outside of his shop just to make life a bit less hot...
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
your right. I think it was more just working hard than the heat that was making me sweat. that is an idea though I'm thinking of doing in the new place just to make room more than anything.
@z.sforging4291
@z.sforging4291 4 жыл бұрын
80Rs Indian rupee
@terencebatley6756
@terencebatley6756 7 жыл бұрын
Speed it up even more,get a Mig Welder.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Terence! I find if used right a stick welder is just as quick and makes a better weld. I use the main 3 welders, stick, mig and tig at work for different projects because they are better than the other at different tasks. in my workshop though I do favour a stick welder for its simplicity and no need for gas bottle rental. Thanks j
@davidrichards3605
@davidrichards3605 7 жыл бұрын
Joshua, you are absolutely right, in this application the stick welder is easier and better than using MIg/Mag. MIg/Mag is what everyone uses now a days and while it is a great flexible process there are still many applications where Stick, Tig and even gas welding still have excellent benefits. PS on the PTFE tape I'm with you, I have sealed many water and gas leaks over the years just using this tape, no problem, a great product.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
+David Richards I agree thank you. I think a lot of new Smiths use a mig because it seems easyer to them. I believe I got good at welding because of using stick. I did gas pipe welding for an engineer using stick because the British standard states that it was the best for the application and that mig/mag should not be used.
@davidrichards3605
@davidrichards3605 7 жыл бұрын
I think the big difference is the direction you come from the weld process side - if you start as a stIck welder, do a bit of Tig then go into Mig you have a different attitude to mixing the processes. Guys who start with MIg don't see the need to try something different and think it's the answer to the maidens prayer - In the "old days" the MIG/Mag process was not allowed for welding any type of pressure vessel or pipes, in fact you were not even allowed to pre tack any vessel parts using Mig. Although today this has changed and Mig is now used extensively in many pressure vessel applications there is still an acceptance that from an overall weld quality point MIg is below that of Sub Arc, Tig and Stick, more especially in non ferrous metals. Although I have had a long career building and supplying Automated/robotic Mig systems to major manufacturers, for my own personal welding I have a Mig machine, 2 x stick welders, a Tig welder - I often use the Mig for ease of tacking but if I want a nice neat controlled weld I will often use Tig or stick weld.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 жыл бұрын
My point exactly well said David!
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