Blacksmithing Tools #4 - Hand Forging Round Drifts (Mild Steel)

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7 жыл бұрын

workingwithiron presents How to forge round Drifts #4 in the tool making series. Made from Mild steel as they are consumables.
Nathan Baker will take you through step by step process on how to forge, no step skipped.

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@gregfarley5737 5 жыл бұрын

Well done! I can't thank you enough for not having ridiculous music. Also, thank you for getting right to the point of the video. Great job.

@sladewilson8929 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the no nonsense tutorial on this subject and straight to the point I really appreciate

@tylerjenkins91 7 жыл бұрын

Your videos are some of the best instructional videos on youtube. Keep up the good work!

@tomcarlson3244 Жыл бұрын

Great demo on making a hot cut chisel. My attempts I didn’t spend enough time dressing the cutting taper.

@steelpennyforge5152 7 жыл бұрын

As a new smith I am really digging the videos on tool making. I will be using them all to make all the tools I need! Thanks for the outstanding instruction)

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

No worries, there will be plenty more, got a few more to do then we will get onto projects so we can use them. Thank you!

@ugo7295 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job Nathan, thanks.

@jojomama4787 7 жыл бұрын

I'm kind of old to start doing this type of work but my background as a welder/machinist makes it almost natural.of course tools are the first thing anyone needs so your videos/tutorials are very much appreciated,thanks so much!

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

No i must Thank you for watching them, Have to start with tools for sure!

@gregjordan8060 7 жыл бұрын

If you aren't a teacher you should be, I watch a lot of other videos and they don't explain the process the way you do, maybe it's just me but I sure do appreciate your videos

@andytree001 7 жыл бұрын

second that, your relaxed style is easy on the ear and makes the information offered much easier to take in.There are others making vids of the same genre that just leave me with a headache.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg, means a lot that does! They are a lot longer than most but if its instructions on how to make something then its easier to show as we go along rather than trying to get a shorter video for more views, its never about the views for me, more so to teach people that can't get to classes, or to a tutor or for people in countries where there are no smiths that will teach.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I find the same thing, there are great entertainers out there doing this but its not about me, rather the craft itself and process. Glad you like the way they happen! Cheers!

@paulorchard7960 3 жыл бұрын

Best explanation and how to on drifts I have seen! Upsetting the centre makes perfect sense when you explain scale and forging loss! Thanks Nathan, I know a lot more now than I did 20 minutes ago!

@bigoldgrizzly 9 ай бұрын

Also you are drifting a hole in hot steel. If the drift is oversize, then so will the hole in the hot steel be. If you have the swell just right, then as the workpiece contracts the hole will too, hopefully being spot on the desired hole diameter when cold.

@workingwithiron 9 ай бұрын

Hence the upset in the drift. I've not watched this back in a long time but I'm sure I mentioned this.

@bigoldgrizzly 9 ай бұрын

@@workingwithiron It did get missed in the video Nathan, though you did refer to it in one of the comment replies. It is easy to miss things that are second nature to you, when demonstrating and doing the talk through at the same time - I couldn't do it

@henryraynald7947 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nathan for another outstanding video

@brianpurtle3746 7 жыл бұрын

your videos there great thanks for all the info it's really helpful having the step-by-step instructions

@doug817th 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent, as usual. Thanks for he hard work.

@paulus281059 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Nathan, great videos mate. I do hope you do loads more, you've got a nice, calm, easy going style. I've just finished doing up a small farriers type forge and adding a free-standing base to it as it was originally just a table-top type. It'll be good to get back into 'smithing and fabrication again as it's been some years since I last did this sort of work, so I'll be watching all your vids for inspiriation and perspiration as well. Kind Regards mate.

@lenblacksmith8559 7 жыл бұрын

Well done mate, Nathan you explain things so well, not like other video's they just play music, don't tell you anything. big tick here mate.

@traolachachall518 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent blacksmith and teacher

@keithcarney1175 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making your videos.

@nightschoolblacksmith6219 7 жыл бұрын

Wonderful! Thank you Nath.

@WG1807 7 жыл бұрын

Good information again. Thanks for the upload.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

thanks again!

@curtroche5392 7 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for the excellent info.

@uvmetalworkingfabrication1873 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Using mild steel is new for me.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

You are welcome, Mild steel is a wonderful material and its Cheap!! Cheers!

@stephenchilingirian5183 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!! Thank you so much!!!

@joemcnally1348 7 жыл бұрын

Thank for producing this and your other videos, its great to be able to watch every step in your process. I have found a lot of your work helpful for learning. I wonder if i might suggest a topic for a future video, I have been rely struggling to find good understandable information of the steel its self and what steel to use for tools and such. I've probably been looking in the wrong place but faced with pages of designations makes my head spin. anyway I've had trouble with it and maybe others ho are just starting are in the same boat might be a good one to put out there. Thanks again for doing what you do man!

@bearshield7138 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@starforged 2 жыл бұрын

Always a great video. When you are making a square drift. Like on a railing, do you start with a round and then transition to a square drift? Or a hexagon shape like on a conveyor roll shaft.

@kentgordner7119 7 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with several of the comments. You are so patient with your teaching. I appreciate watching you because I can pick up so much more than others I have watched. I am mesmerized by the videos...lol. At the end of this video you talked about a bolster plate video for drifting holes, but I cannot find it. Can you help me out?

@RustyPearson 6 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you found it Kent kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abl-lM1_uL6yc4E.html

@gig1958 7 жыл бұрын

Hello, Great channel!! Wondering what brand of hammer are you using? Looks a little like a farriers hammer.Long handle with an anvil and two initials mark on the side. Looking forward to the next installment. Matthew Onks USA

@Alistplay 3 жыл бұрын

Love the name

@workingwithiron 3 жыл бұрын

the name?

@Alistplay 3 жыл бұрын

@@workingwithiron your name being Nathan, my name being Nathan. Just a little nod to someone with the same name am also doing some forge work myself

@workingwithiron 3 жыл бұрын

That makes more sense 😂 it's getting a channel name change soon though 🙂

@randychom 7 жыл бұрын

You stated that you harden the mild steel, can you explain how you do this or did I misunderstand? Thanks for this idea , tool steel is a lot of coin .

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

I find my 8mm drift bends when drifting holes for tong boss.

@dougminnis192 6 жыл бұрын

what length do you you start out with

@oljames1687 7 жыл бұрын

..By Upsetting the Drift. Does this allow the hole you are drifting to come back to a more normal size after the piece has cooled?? Say, you drift it with a 10mm drift and when the piece has cooled it's more like 8mm...

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, you got it! Lets say you want an 8mm hole, you would use the 8mm drift that has been upset to around 9mm drift through then you should have a parallel hole of 8 1/2 - 9mm hole, when that cools depending on the colour of the bar when the drift is knocked out it should shrink back to just over 8mm, allowing an 8mm bar to pass through that hole. I will show it on the bolster plate video i am filming now.

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

Nathan I made an 8mm drift and every time I went to use it it would bend, so gave it up. Do you think it might of been too long. What length would you recommend for a drift for tongs for rivet hole.??

@workingwithiron 6 жыл бұрын

Lenblacksmith for a rivet hole I wouldn't recommend any drift, just your punch will do unless they are huge hinges. I explain in the video how long the drift needs to be, but what I didn't say was, the work has to be hot. They do bend, out of mild steel, if not hit straight, or the hole is too small, or too cold, or like you say, drift too long it could be that you keep hitting while the hole has cooled and the drift has been heated, without seeing your technique I cannot say.. 8mm drifting is small enough that if you can use your punch then do so. Hope this helps.

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah Nathan, that helps a lot, and some great advice, cheers mate.

@kiksforge 7 жыл бұрын

Very nice, as a part time job I do welding repairs for farmers and the amount of spring steel I have acquired from broken bale carriers and silage grabs is ridiculious at this stage, I find the steel, even un hardened makes really nice drifts, mild steel is far easier to shape and redress though.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

How lucky! They are amazing, like you say for drifts, such hard wearing and they shine up so well after a few uses. Whats a silage grab?

@kiksforge 7 жыл бұрын

It's like a big mouth that fits on to the front loader of a tractor. Drive it into the silage pit close the jaws and it takes a "bite" out out of the silage.

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

Aha i know what you mean! Thanks!

@basdejong1598 4 ай бұрын

I remember working with one during a 3-day-course that's made of a heat resistant hardened kind of steel (retains its hardness to temperatures of up to ~600°C), but that one was more like an eye drift for hammers and axes. Nonetheless, I assumed all drifts are made of such steel.

@workingwithiron 4 ай бұрын

That'll be a red hot steel such as h13. But this channel is about showing you how to think outside the box. Hence mild steel drifts for small holes. As a finishing drift. Not a punch.

@brettwilletts 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! inspired me to give it a go! i am a steel fabricator and am always drifting holes on steel flanges to line the holes up before bolting together. i normally buy a king dick drift spanner and cut the spanner end off and use them. you are using mild steel as the material, would i need to harden the drift after forging or would it be strong enough as it is?? great tutorial, keep up the good work.

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

How long is the 6mm?

@MinistryOfStrings 6 жыл бұрын

Lenblacksmith following

@shane4176 6 жыл бұрын

why do you upset the middle? you may of explained it but I didnt get it if you did. By the way love your videos great job!

@workingwithiron 6 жыл бұрын

Rice Creek bushcraft example.... so I want to pass a 12mm bar through a 12 mm hole. The drift material is also 12mm. If I were to put a 12mm bar in a 12mm hole it would be tight, if it passes through at all. So I upset the middle of the drift so it is wider than the 12mm, only by a fraction. This opens the hole out slightly bigger than 12mm so the bar I want to pass through the hole has enough clearance to go through but not sit in loosely. Hope this makes sense!

@NKG416 7 жыл бұрын

axe drift tutorial?

@genesmith9238 7 жыл бұрын

do you use these on a slot punch hole?

@workingwithiron 7 жыл бұрын

yes, you can use it whenever you need straight hole, as punches are not parallel they leave a conical hole, so you will y=use a drift to make the holes parallel, usually punch slightly smaller then drift to final size. I will show you in the next vid which will be up tomorrow or sunday. Hope this helps!

@dougminnis192 6 жыл бұрын

what pound hammer are you using

@workingwithiron 6 жыл бұрын

Doug Minnis 1 3/4 lb

@randychom 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry must have been mistaking or crossed up with another video, sorry. My mistake you don't say that.

@scottleft3672 7 жыл бұрын

im looking to make masonry chisels.....tungsten is so expensive it becomes precious.

@jakobpetrov1750 5 жыл бұрын

What does that mean upsetting

@workingwithiron 5 жыл бұрын

Compressing the stock on itself to make it bigger in size/section.

@jakobpetrov1750 5 жыл бұрын

And whye does there have to be a swell on the punch ?

@workingwithiron 5 жыл бұрын

Let's say we are putting a 10mm bar through a 10mm hole. If we drift the hole to exactly 10mm while hot, as the hole cools down it will contract and shrink being slightly less than 10mm so the swell takes it bigger than 10mm to counteract the shrinkage.

@jakobpetrov1750 5 жыл бұрын

@@workingwithiron oh ok i understan thank you