How To & Tips for These Waxes: ProBlend 600, Maker's Blend 100 & Joy Wax (+ More Candle Making Tips)

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Wade (BLACK TIE BARN)

Wade (BLACK TIE BARN)

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In this video, Matt and I answer some of the questions submitted by many of you regarding ProBlend 600, Makers Blend 100, and Joy Wax. Link to Matt's website below the timestamps as well as the Facebook group that Matt runs. You will also of course find my group, website, and other resources below!
00:00 - Getting Started
01:00 - General Process
07:29 - pour temp & adhesion
11:24 - Candle/Scent Bar
13:06 - Where to get supplies
15:35 - Cure Time before testing
17:28 - Weak flame/wick
19:45 - Fragrance Load
22:14 - Vybar/Additives
25:35 - Tracking Testing
28:26 - Dealing with soot
32:13 - discoloration/UV
35:24 - Beginner materials
41:20 - Pricing
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@PlumCrazyHomesteader
@PlumCrazyHomesteader 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Loads of helpful info. Kits are a good idea.
@kathleenvonthaden1289
@kathleenvonthaden1289 10 ай бұрын
Great Q&A with you both!!! VERY helpful for us newbies!!! Would love to see you both do more of these. Thanks!!!
@speakonitwithannie670
@speakonitwithannie670 Жыл бұрын
I learn everytime I watch. Watched this 3 times, great collaboration!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Annie!
@JenJojo24
@JenJojo24 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best, and most informative video I have ever seen. Very well explained! Thank you so much! 🙌
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@twylaburton2163
@twylaburton2163 10 ай бұрын
Great collaborationMr Wade love your Videos they are very informative .
@jillgross6232
@jillgross6232 Жыл бұрын
Great collaboration!❤ I think the questions asked were good, and the answers were clear. Very helpful to newbies and a good set of reminders for more experienced makers. 😊😊😊
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jill!
@sassynyc7327
@sassynyc7327 Жыл бұрын
Great work guys. Informative, brief, and to the point. PB 600 is a very approachable wax to work with. No drama with this one. Thanks for sharing.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
No drama. Lol. Love it. Well stated
@scottkrise1867
@scottkrise1867 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for all the great info
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
👍
@dannidinero7728
@dannidinero7728 Жыл бұрын
Wade, I'm just getting started and I've officially named you my MENTOR!!!! Thank you for all your awesome content!!!!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
❤️🤗
@rosafunchal1151
@rosafunchal1151 7 ай бұрын
Wade....Thanks for this valuable video.👌
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 7 ай бұрын
No problem!
@kathleenpizarro3547
@kathleenpizarro3547 Жыл бұрын
thankyou both I learn so much from both of you yes fragrance oils are tricky so some I use less and some go by smell
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@marisoldiaz6850
@marisoldiaz6850 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Im still learning from you. This is a great video. I really appreciate it. God bless you. You are a unselfish person 😊 and like i always said. You are the best 👌
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😀
@kelcyulrich7647
@kelcyulrich7647 Жыл бұрын
This is great! I I have a favorite FO that I’m hell bent on nailing. I think I’ve finally got it, but I also know I can just do melts in that scent if all else fails. Hoping to launch in the Fall, but it will happen when my products are ready. Can’t rush it. Thanks for your expertise!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
No problem Kelcy!
@val-bm3so
@val-bm3so Жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Thanks Wade and Matt 🌿🥀🌿 PeAcE 🐝
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
❤️
@susansantucci3358
@susansantucci3358 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! Joy wax has always been my favorite wax. Though i've used it for 2 years, I found this video informative. Would enjoy seeing more of these!!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks susan!
@candlestylist
@candlestylist 11 ай бұрын
Interesting...even for a wax melt maker like myself. Thanks.
@debbiebridges6350
@debbiebridges6350 9 ай бұрын
Got my answer at the end.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 9 ай бұрын
❤️
@jessielynn1626
@jessielynn1626 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Nice to see the two of you collaborating together! I really liked that you had Matt on, finally able to put a face to the name. I have been using Problend and Premier 700 series (thanks to your videos Wade) and I am finally about to launch Valley Grove Candles. Even though I thought I had mastered this wax I still learned some great info from this video! One question for either of y'all: Have you ever used whitening powder for FOs that might discolor a non-color dyed candle?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jessie! I have not personally
@knotqueen2419
@knotqueen2419 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@RoseKindred
@RoseKindred Жыл бұрын
Great informative video, not really the waxes I use but still learned a few more tidbits.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
❤️👍
@azielnik
@azielnik 9 ай бұрын
I'm new to candles and like your idea of beginner kits to develop product. Count me in,
@marthagichia
@marthagichia Жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to hear how the conference was. Pls make a video. Thank you.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
I will. It hasn't started yet. Just got to it. :)
@albelishicks7680
@albelishicks7680 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@raqueldi3028
@raqueldi3028 9 ай бұрын
Getting crazy wicking it also here. I use Eco 14 and 16 wicks on pro blend 600 wax but 16 wick big flame and soot a lot in the first lit but second lit it’s better and 14 much better but leave little wax in the edge of the CS black jar 3.25” diameter. The I try zinc 51-32-18 and goes well but half of the jar the flame is kinda small . Any suggestions? Thank you
@twylaburton2163
@twylaburton2163 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mr Wayde and Mr Matt My question is I am a beginner to candle making ,Could I use an Oval Hexagon glass jar (270ml) 9 oz to start off with and what kind of premiere 700 series would I need? Thank you so much.
@200sgames
@200sgames 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! What percent of fragrance oil do you use for pro blend 600 I did 9% and it didn’t seem strong enough so I tried 10% and the cold throw seemed too strong so I’m not sure what to do
@dandalzell9643
@dandalzell9643 Жыл бұрын
If adding FO@185 and pouring@140’ish and only stir until binded(30secs you say), what do you do the other 3-4mins while it cools? Let it sit? Thanks in advance! Appreciate all of your tutorials and answering of questions/comments👍💪🤜🤛
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Hey Dan. The main point was that they're is lots of flexibility for various processes. I know tons of people who add fo to this wax at 160 for example. And pour helps vary too. But yes, you can stir and then let sit and cool stirring occasionally if you want
@mrwonderful2081
@mrwonderful2081 Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t able to get a decent throw from pb600, I wish I would have because it’s such a beautiful wax and not too pricy.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yah it's great overall
@user-kz3xp7lm3r
@user-kz3xp7lm3r 8 ай бұрын
What CD wick is recommended for a 3.3 diameter 12oz salsa jar?
@tipisqueen4
@tipisqueen4 Жыл бұрын
I heard from a guy who is a candle scientist and tests candles for big brands like Yankee candle who mentioned in his videos that since wax and fragrance oils are nonpolar oils, they don't bind but rather blend together. So heating up the fragrance so that they bind together is not really needed because the molecules don't actually combine in a molecular way. The way that can be done is using vybar because it is a positive polymer that will grab onto the wax and the fragrance oil molecules and keep them binded this way. He suggests just melting the wax until it melts, add the fragrance and pour cooler. He uses soy in his videos. Not sure if this applies to parrafin as he is against using parafin.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yes that is true to a large degree and I echo the same mostly in my videos. The only caveat is that some waxes until are heated to a high enough temp stay sort of thick and do its harder to blend. So I basically just try to make sure the wax is liquid. I've never had problems. And also correct... it's more of a "blend" than a binding action. We just tend to use both words. Lol.
@gabe7143
@gabe7143 11 ай бұрын
what is the youtube channel for that?
@deniseteague8203
@deniseteague8203 7 ай бұрын
Hi Guys! I am using ceda serica apricot coconut wax. I LOVE this wax. I am a new candlemaker and I am learning so much from your channel! My Question….I heat my wax to 205, add FO and pour right away. I pour right away because according to the manufacturer directions it says pour right away….should I be letting it cool to around 160 before pouring or keeping pouring right away with ceda serica wax?
@200sgames
@200sgames 3 ай бұрын
I use pro blend 600. I personally heat up to 200, then I pour into my pitcher and let it cool to 185 and add my fragrance, then I let it cool to 140/145 and pour in my candle jar
@tyggrlili26
@tyggrlili26 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you! I've been trying to get my candle business up and running but the testing phase with wicks is killin me! I have tried Eco, Premiere 700, CDN and CD and so far CD has been my go to but I still have issues. I feel like I have tried every single size in every single brand out there. I am using PB 600 and love the wax, but you saying tins are hard to wick and the size....I have two sizes a 8 oz tin that is 3 inches in diameter and a 4 oz that is 2.5 inch in diameter. SO far CD 3-4 is okay in the 4 oz depending on the FO, but wicking the 8 oz, im having to double wick with a CD 3 and CD 2. Both seem over wicked but burn okay. But every other wick seems to small or to large. Anyway...I appreciate the video! You guys are rockstars!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Christa! Yeah I love tins don't get me wrong, just harder to wick usually. I prefer double wicking the larger ones as well. But I also prefer using premiers in them since I have more control of sizing.
@raqueldi3028
@raqueldi3028 9 ай бұрын
Same here girl!! 🤯 I love 8 to 10 oz jars but still can’t figure it out yet. Love PB 600 wax and trying with Eco and zinc wicks … 😭
@lindseymiller667
@lindseymiller667 6 ай бұрын
Love the collaboration...very engaging! I am brand new to this so I'm wondering when making each batch, how do you figure out how much FO to add? I know you mentioned 9% in this video but I'm not sure what that is referencing. Do you have videos that specifically discuss the amount of FO? Also, do you blend FO's and if so, how do you determine the ratios? Really appreciate your insight!
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 6 ай бұрын
Yes check out my candle math video or any of the tutorial videos. Basically how much wax you are using times 9% . That is how much fragrance oil would be 9%
@LoHa13
@LoHa13 Жыл бұрын
I wish this video was around when I started. I would have saved so much money if I'd started with premier wicks. LX is pretty versatile too but I have a butt-ton of eco's and CD's I wasted my money on. Thank goodness for fire starters ;)
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Haha. Exactly!
@DR76900
@DR76900 7 ай бұрын
I read that fragrance oils have synthetic ingredients vs essentials oils, that are made from plants. Do you know if your fragrance oils are made from synthetic materials or do you use essential oils any at all?
@christinasanabria1734
@christinasanabria1734 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video thank you for doing this! I have 2 to 3 fragrances that I really would love to have in my line but I do not think work well with my wax. I’m wondering if I should text them in Problend 600. I do have premier wicks. If you had a 3 1/4 diameter vessel that I double wick. Where would you start? 2 735s?
@Historycandles
@Historycandles Жыл бұрын
I would start at double 715 and go up or down based on that test
@christinasanabria1734
@christinasanabria1734 Жыл бұрын
@@Historycandles thank you for the help I just joined the group
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
I'd agree. Two 715s is a great start
@christinasanabria1734
@christinasanabria1734 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn I’ll check if I have that size if not I’ll order from yoh
@kathleenpizarro3547
@kathleenpizarro3547 Жыл бұрын
question for you do you know anything about sand wax ? I've used alot of waxes I still like apricot coconut wax thanks for yr thoughts I learned alot
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Sorry Kathleen I do not. And thank you. :)
@user-kz3xp7lm3r
@user-kz3xp7lm3r 8 ай бұрын
Is it possible to put 464 on top of this wax to make a whipped candle?
@djhillbill
@djhillbill 7 ай бұрын
Is ProBlend 650 and Pillar of Bliss the same as well?
@erikaewers1335
@erikaewers1335 6 ай бұрын
What does “wick up” mean? Go with a thicker wick?
@anab8144
@anab8144 Жыл бұрын
Great video…Can you use Premier 700 with coconut 83 or Coco bright #11 wax?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yes I know plenty who use it with Coco 83. I haven't really used the other much
@anab8144
@anab8144 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn thank you!
@debbiebridges6350
@debbiebridges6350 9 ай бұрын
Yes interested in kits for beginners.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 9 ай бұрын
👍
@jenniferacevedo5543
@jenniferacevedo5543 4 ай бұрын
Whaat do u do in summer monthsor it not to melt
@judith2248
@judith2248 5 ай бұрын
I would like to join the Joy Wax FB group but can’t find it. Do you still run that group? would you mind to share the link? Thank you
@debbiebridges6350
@debbiebridges6350 9 ай бұрын
What size premier 700 series wick would you use with pro blend 600 and 9 oz. straight sided jars?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 9 ай бұрын
I'd start either premier 730 and adjust up or down as needed
@raqueldi3028
@raqueldi3028 9 ай бұрын
Which diameter is the one the outside or inside diameter of the jar?
@thenaturalstategirl
@thenaturalstategirl Жыл бұрын
How do you ship in the summer without everything melting? Especially if you use embeds?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
The higher melt point materials you use the better. I don't do anything special never really had an issue. There's also a small risk when selling things that can melt but it's rarely a problem. I'll replace if or when it happens. That would still cost MUCH less than talking drastic preventative measures and hoping it works. :)
@IrishQ76
@IrishQ76 Жыл бұрын
Premier wicks sound awesome but I use C3 wax and so far I found it favors CD, cdn, or eco 😢
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yep totally depends on wax of course. I haven't used them in c3 so I don't know for sure. But they do work well in a variety of wax types
@brentweitzel9692
@brentweitzel9692 Жыл бұрын
@Black Tie Barn store Wade Love listening to you and watching your videos, wouldn't be where I'm at with candle making if it wasn't for you (Great Mentor) Just out of curiosity are you ex military and I ask because of the soda you are not drinking? If you know what I mean you do. All the respect in the world to you.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Hey Brent. Thanks so much. But no I am not. Not too sure what is mean. Ha. But again thank you
@tashakenison5471
@tashakenison5471 Жыл бұрын
Here’s another question since your doing wicks too . Why do I feel like P735s are the same as P725s . In my testing with these , my 735s burned out like my 725s . I was trying to go up a tad over the 730 ?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Not sure. They are definitely not the same but since they are close, depending on fragrance and jar the differences might be small.
@tashakenison5471
@tashakenison5471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wade, the jar and fragrance were the same , playing with the 3 wick tumbler 😁
@raqueldi3028
@raqueldi3028 9 ай бұрын
I noticed little sweet on top of problend 600 wax but it’s only 8% FO . Should I lower the FO? That’s happen to you guys with 8% FO?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 9 ай бұрын
It's probably just sweating a touch from room temp or humidity
@karenMQSoapery
@karenMQSoapery 11 ай бұрын
I had to come back to this video I didn’t realize that all thoses waxes are the same I started out with soy wax pillar bless with wax melts coconut soy for wax melts I had joy wax and then I bought the makers blend I love the look of thoses 2 but there more expensive then pro blend 600 so there all pretty much the same ?? This video would have saved me lots of money a year ago 😂 the makers blend 100 I don’t have any problems with it and love the colors and the smooth top
@tashakenison5471
@tashakenison5471 Жыл бұрын
What other waxes are comparable to these waxes ? ( soy / para mix ) Say like from candle science . My closest suppliers in Ca are 16/17 , Cal Candle Supply & Candle science in Nv. TIA
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
These are the only ones like these in my opinion. Candle Science doesn't have a similar one. I'd day maybe bw910 is the closest but it's still not.
@crystinapierce6833
@crystinapierce6833 Жыл бұрын
If I find a scent I really like but it doesn’t work for the wax I use, I just make them wax melts. Melts seem to be easier for scents for me. Then I can still carry the scent, just not in a candle.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@johnhenley8599
@johnhenley8599 Жыл бұрын
Do you guys like libby status jars... 12oz or 8oz.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
That look nice. At times can be hard to wick, particularly the 12oz ones. But yes they are popular and common
@CrystalJacobson-kj1ye
@CrystalJacobson-kj1ye Жыл бұрын
So can you visually how thick a FO is when you pour it?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Not really. I mean if it's super thick I guess. But even then... doesn't necessarily mean it will impact wicking until you test
@muckhappy9760
@muckhappy9760 Жыл бұрын
great stuff as always! yes. I would love to see some starterb up kits with various waxes. Would you be able to do a video on some coco/soy waxes you've used? specifically EC26 and Coco Apricot Creme?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
❤️👍
@muriel90
@muriel90 Жыл бұрын
I am now starting and very nervous about the testing phase. I have a 14.5 oz container with a 3.5inch diameter and a 10oz container with a 3inch container. I have problend, what size premier 700 wick should i get? TIA
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
I'd 2 wick the 3.5" diameter. Probably two premier 720s. But I'd get 715 through 725 and test each. The 3" you can try single wick between 775 and 785? Or double wick maybe with 710 or 715
@muriel90
@muriel90 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn thank you so much for responding and the advice. Ordering some from you now. Very much appreciated.
@muriel90
@muriel90 Жыл бұрын
Hello there, so I tested with the Premier 720 and I feel it's too small. Will test with the 725 and see how that works out. I tested my candle after a day and the HT on day 1 was ok(not impressed) after that no HT and my candle is brown. What did I do wrong?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
@@muriel90 Yah, in that size I mostly use 720 to 730s (two of them). One wick in that jar will be too small. Just wanted to make sure you were aware it was double wick not a single wick for that jar size. Also, give your candles more than a day for the hot throw. Try again in a week. Also, fragrance oil type and amount matters. There are so many things it could be so I can't really tell you what the specific issue might be unfortunately. As far as the candle being brown, that... I have no idea. Id do some more tests and see if it conitnues.
@muriel90
@muriel90 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn Hi Wade, I double wicked with Premier 720. I will try the next 2 sizes up to see if it helps. I am thinking I did not allow it time to cure. How many days do I cure it? I read 2 weeks for all soy wax but since this is a blend. How many days do you think will give me the best results? I had a little leftover that I put in a small container and this morning CT is amazing. Will keep testing. Thank you for your advice. Much appreciated.
@Loecandles
@Loecandles 8 ай бұрын
Is the conference in Charleston SC? Because I want to attend a candle conference.
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn 8 ай бұрын
That was last year. It moves around
@Loecandles
@Loecandles 8 ай бұрын
Hello sorry to bother you again, but where is the conference in2024, because I want to a attend. And by the way love my wicks and getting ready to place another order. @@BlackTieBarn
@patriciamcmurray5926
@patriciamcmurray5926 Жыл бұрын
Interested in kit
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
👍❤️
@albelishicks7680
@albelishicks7680 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
❤️
@debbiewiitanen5396
@debbiewiitanen5396 Жыл бұрын
Can I use vybar also?
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Sure. Just test
@debbiewiitanen5396
@debbiewiitanen5396 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Wade
@donmichaelscandleco.7612
@donmichaelscandleco.7612 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry were you guys saying you can buy pro blend 600 from other distributors but it's just called something else?
@Historycandles
@Historycandles Жыл бұрын
Yes! Midwest Fragrance has Makers Blend 100 and Natures Garden has Joy Wax. They are the same
@donmichaelscandleco.7612
@donmichaelscandleco.7612 Жыл бұрын
@@Historycandles Ok thank you so much;)
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
Yep. What Matt said. :)
@donmichaelscandleco.7612
@donmichaelscandleco.7612 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn thanks Wade:)
@albelishicks7680
@albelishicks7680 Жыл бұрын
Hello 😂🎉❤😊
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
👋❤️
@valeriesuttonpayne7413
@valeriesuttonpayne7413 6 ай бұрын
Is this a soy wax?
@tiffany7023
@tiffany7023 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm comment
@BlackTieBarn
@BlackTieBarn Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@tiffany7023
@tiffany7023 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackTieBarn It helps! 😝
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