Let's Talk About the X-Men's Fall from Grace in Immortal X-Men #13

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Жыл бұрын

In today's video let's talk about the X-Men's fall from grace in Immortal X-Men #13, and why this will spell the end for Krakoa as we know it.
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@theprodigalsun__
@theprodigalsun__ Жыл бұрын
I wish the writers would let the krakoa era last longer or just let the mutants all go to arakko. The X-men have struggled for so long
@terrencewilliams4355
@terrencewilliams4355 Жыл бұрын
Facts. The Mutant struggle is getting old 2 decades ago.
@freeformcanvas9317
@freeformcanvas9317 Жыл бұрын
All things must end
@Oklahomie95
@Oklahomie95 Жыл бұрын
Right.. Like just give us a period of comics with internal/personal problems if you want, but can mutants NOT be on the verge of extinction for a little bit? 😭
@freeformcanvas9317
@freeformcanvas9317 Жыл бұрын
This I'd my favorite version of xmen 2nd is age of apocalypse. I had to let that run go, gotta let this 1 go too. Just comes with the territory. Thats how comics works
@Nvr2Busy
@Nvr2Busy Жыл бұрын
​@freeformcanvas9317 that's the sad thing you are right. Everything must go back to the status quo but I really do wish the companies and writers would give us actually progression when it comes to legacy characters/teams. No more mutants struggling that gets my goat as much as spiderman can't be happy lol
@Vendetta419
@Vendetta419 Жыл бұрын
I can understand why because their hatred for them is more than just them being mutant. They see it as you allow monsters like Sinister sitting on the council.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Except if mutants thought that way they would be justified being that humanity has been killing them since they showed up. That is the issue of still going with this humans hate mutants story as if the mutants havent saved the world countless times even while being mistreated
@Vendetta419
@Vendetta419 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSmith-nb6md I think in all exactly we may see humans hating anybody with powers, mutants or not.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
@@Vendetta419 Except we dont hate heroes. We admire them. You took all the context out of my statement and narrowed it down to hate again people. Hell even A.X.E Judgement day was an example of them putting their lives on the line saving everyone. Instead they pretend it didnt happen and get upset at them being literally mind controlled and ruining a timeline....that doesnt exist. You seriously gonna tell me that if someone is mind controlled and does something wrong to you and you have proof it wasnt their fault, you are gonna hate them?
@antoniuspoe9945
@antoniuspoe9945 Жыл бұрын
If I were part of Krakoa, I'd be more concerned about intergalactic empires finding out about the Sinister files. I'm sure the Shi'ar and the Kree wouldn't take kindly to bring annihilated, even if it was a different timeline.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
That is the dumbest thing though. It was in a timeline that doesnt exist. No reason to be upset about something that didnt happen.
@antoniuspoe9945
@antoniuspoe9945 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSmith-nb6md But they also live in a universe where there are people that can destroy planets, manipulate reality, and time travel.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
@@antoniuspoe9945 True....but that doesnt negate what I said
@Macrochenia
@Macrochenia Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSmith-nb6md Krakoa has high-ranking people on its council with a long history of attempting genocide. The Sinister Files functionally show a plan to destroy the Shi'ar and Kree empires that has a very good chance at succeeding, should Krakoa decide to implement it. That is not a thing that the Shi'ar or Kree are likely to just accept as something that they're perfectly cool with.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
@@Macrochenia Ok....but that has nothing to do with mutants as a whole. Just like our own politicians we are forced to pick out of those who make themselves available. That same council also has members that risked their lives countless times for humanity and without so much as a thank you. The Sinister Files reveal that Sinister had those plans made and implemented. Those files reveal everyone was being controlled. Thus again making the issue illogical. If you lack control over you own will you can not be blamed for your actions. And again all this happened in a time line....that doesnt even exist anymore.
@milliequick1271
@milliequick1271 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh, maybe it’s the “fall” of X as in the Autumn of Krakoa… the leaves fall, things change, but deep down it survives ready for a new Spring!
@SuiteVII
@SuiteVII Жыл бұрын
Exactly ❤
@revolutionarydragon1123
@revolutionarydragon1123 Жыл бұрын
I'm coping
@unixmoon4842
@unixmoon4842 Жыл бұрын
We had like 4 good strong years of the krakoa era, and i just hoped it would've lasted much longer. I just hope that by the time Fall is done, that we'll still have Krakoa in some way or another cus i was finally enjoying my time with xmen comics
@markwalker091
@markwalker091 Жыл бұрын
I was screaming when Exodus just... I love how many different ways we've gotten to see him use his Psychokinetic powers in so many ways. Selene was helpless.
@popularopinionpod
@popularopinionpod Жыл бұрын
Has anyone on the writing staff pondered what exactly the mutant society full of healers, teleporters, reality warpers etc that live on a self sustained island need money for? 🤔 or Earth for that matter? They have a planet. The further they go into this the more I realize why Hickman left
@LeavanDragon
@LeavanDragon Жыл бұрын
Hickman was always bound to leave imo. Marvel was never going to commit to Krakoa, they just wanted to give the illusion of progress. Now they've gotten the attention snd eyes from readers, and are ready to head to the status quo that is the dingy mansion and half the mutant population being dead or constantly on the run.
@danielneverloses
@danielneverloses Жыл бұрын
Goes to show that Krakoa never truly developed a unique identity of mutantdom, since their leadership was just the old figureheads whose respective philosophies hadn't been working out The communal element isn't as good as it is on Arakko
@popularopinionpod
@popularopinionpod Жыл бұрын
@StaceyTheHeatran that's definitely true but it seemed like Hickman understood that it wouldn't be a forever thing and had a short window for it but the kids wanted to play in the sandbox a little longer which is why it seems like they've run out of ideas now
@popularopinionpod
@popularopinionpod Жыл бұрын
@@danielneverloses they should just move Krakoa to Arrako and have X-Men on Mars stories for a while
@LeavanDragon
@LeavanDragon Жыл бұрын
@popularopinionpod I actually disagree in the specifics. While Hickman knew it would be temporary, he also knew it wouldn't just end once he left marvel. Krakoa wasn't just a storyline, it's entire basis was a rebranding of the x mem concept and storyline. It was literally made to be a sandbox poeple could play with after Hickman left and told his story, because all comic narratives ultimately go that way. Look at any major marvel event and we know that those concepts gave continued to he used even after the original writers left. I think them running out of ideas was expected and par for the course of this industry. What's sad is how they lost ideas and the type of ideas they put stock into. But it's 616 continuity, what can you do? All we can pray is that whatever concepts survive the upcoming Fall of X will remain relevant. Personally, I'd hope Apocalypse remains an ally, as Hickman did great humanizing him.
@Wezt334
@Wezt334 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about Cypher, he’s been playing his own game from the jump and while he was never part of the council he was privy to everything they discuss because of his connection to Krakoa. I always saw it as Doug thought himself the king of the island and just let the council “play” at running things while he made his own moves in the background
@davidbromfield8328
@davidbromfield8328 Жыл бұрын
Nimrod affecting Krakoa through Warlock, Moira and Orchis, Nature Girl, Sabertooth. All because of Cypher thinking he knows best
@machbass
@machbass Жыл бұрын
Can we just make Krakoa the new university? Even after you take resurrection off the table, all the scifi elements involved with this era of X-Men has been amazing and I'd like a reset that doesn't turn Krakoa into the next Genosha.
@Aries_Sinslayer
@Aries_Sinslayer Жыл бұрын
The thing I find funny is Xavier feeling guilty after everything that's happened. Oh now you're starting to grow a conscience. Where was this Xavier during the Inferno event, or dealing with the Beast situation?! #xavierisstillajerk 😅
@QbrotherSoulStar
@QbrotherSoulStar Жыл бұрын
finally someone said it.
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz Жыл бұрын
He explained it in the book
@benjroberts1283
@benjroberts1283 Жыл бұрын
Lemme just start out by noting that I NEVER leave comments on anything (honest to gods, I think this is the very first that I’ve ever left on KZfaq), but, man, I just had to express my appreciation for you and your content, most especially your analysis and commentary on all things carrying an X. There are a number of great content creators doing breakdowns of comics, more than a couple of whom have a particular affinity for the X-Men-Comic Book Herald and Rob over at Comics Explained especially. CBH is good on the straight info side, and really good when it comes to predictions of what’s coming down the line, his delivery can just be a little flat from me at times. I’ve watched Rob’s content for years, but noticed something early on in his videos on Hickman’s 2019 X-Men run-particularly the issue that introduced Crucible-something that I since have not been able to unsee, which is a not infrequent tendency of his to fundamentally misunderstand or misinterpret key concepts or plot points. Now, I’ve been reading X-Men since I started picking up Claremont and Jim Lee’s last few issues of Uncanny off the rack, and they have always been the characters that I love the most. The Krakoan Era has for me been the best and most exciting period in their publication history since the end of Claremont’s run, but for a while I felt that content about these books was lacking a depth of understanding both of lore and sometimes context, and especially nuance in the discussion. When I discovered your channel, however, that void was filled. You know your shit-both in terms of comics and otherwise-you’re entertaining and fun to listen to, your analysis is intelligent, thoughtful, and nuanced. The perspective that you bring to the discussions, often on some of the underlying themes and subtext of a story will from time to time hit me with something that I wouldn’t have thought or known to consider, and that always enhances my reading experience, and further broadens my own perspectives even outside of the realm of comics. All that is my especially long-winded way of expressing my appreciation for the work that you do. As far as I’m concerned, you are producing far and away the best X-Men related contents on this platform. So keep it up. Cheers.
@Infelsinave
@Infelsinave Жыл бұрын
this reminds me of that Archer joke "Cypher, the most useless mutant"... he proves to be very useful
@brisonc2592
@brisonc2592 Жыл бұрын
With this issue I finally realize why they did the sins of sinister storyline, it was to show that Moira was wrong mutants can win against humans. I has been showed in S.O.S and the beast timeline that was shown in the new X-force issue.
@theimage7030
@theimage7030 Жыл бұрын
Mannn...Sinister really had to go and F everything up, didn't he? Mutants had it good for a solid minute
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz Жыл бұрын
It's their fault for ever trusting him.
@wakamoon1910
@wakamoon1910 Жыл бұрын
even if it didn't come to pass, knowing that mutants do have the means of overthrowing them will still strike even more fear. its just like that DC story of batman having contingency plans for the justice league, it didn't come to pass that he was the one who did it but point still is he still prepared those things and trust in him is broken.
@DudePositive
@DudePositive Жыл бұрын
Doug needs to be thrown in the pit for giving Sabertooth an opportunity to be Sabertooth.
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 Жыл бұрын
Seems like they're going out of their way to find a reason to make humanity hate mutantkind. Also, I don't understand how no one knows that something is up with Colossus, even the people that have been friends with him for decades. I'm glad that the Quiet Council is disbanding; they were a terrible ruling body
@zthemartian616
@zthemartian616 Жыл бұрын
I mean probably cause the reality warper controlling him is writing it so that they can't tell
@SuiteVII
@SuiteVII Жыл бұрын
Its a great way to throw subliminal shots at Russia 🤣 Even Omega Red dead 💀
@wakamoon1910
@wakamoon1910 Жыл бұрын
some probably chalking it up to him changing due to the power and responsibility his position put him, like the argument he gave to kate about how she's not like she used to be due to hanging out more with emma. also I believe the quiet council was a good idea and could have worked, it only started falling apart when members were leaving and the spots were taken by some who had questionable motives( and their own goalsdestiny and colossus).
@derrickwebb9867
@derrickwebb9867 Жыл бұрын
Marvels going to screw this up. Those of us who are lifelong readers want to see the mutants have a victory but doesn't seem like Marveks wants the same.
@beathecat6604
@beathecat6604 Жыл бұрын
Duuude, how are you not at 100K subs?! You’re awesome at explaining comics in such a clear-cut and entertaining way!
@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 11 ай бұрын
The whole thing about "they need trade with other Earth nations for resources" thing seemed so silly to me. Like... they are currently in the process of trading a metal with the intergalactic community that most factions would kill over. How the heck would they still depend on Earth nations, if there must be several planets ready to provide them with whatever they could need for just a few tons of their super metal?
@armoghetto
@armoghetto Жыл бұрын
This part of the story hinges on the world population having a very intricate grasp of alternated futures… that’s a tall order. However, since Moira’s GROUND HOG DAY power allows her to retain memories of and manipulate timelines with everyone totally understanding the various timelines better than world history… it’s a bit much- but oh well. We all want to see what happens after the fall, will there be a re-set to normal? Will the mutants come back better? Will the mutants all gain healing factors? I’m tuning in tomorrow
@baloneyjusticecheezedog
@baloneyjusticecheezedog Жыл бұрын
My best guess is they either go off earth though a gateway of some kind, or actually get pulled by gate way island and all off to someplace without humanity to peak on them daily... though if the keep doing there mutant hero duties on earth though gateways.. then that also would not surprise me.. If anything it makes sense they bring someone like Tony stark along because the new threats they might face off earth would require someone that spent time doing dedicated explorer work like tony stark has... And it would be vary good for Tony Stark to go on this ride because Tony Stark has not been a vary useful person as of lately because he not been playing up his strengths. I bet it build up Tony a lot to help protect and safe guard 16 million some mutant refugees if they where to go off world and have to build a colony on a alien world like Avalon
@fatcatpeople
@fatcatpeople Жыл бұрын
This makes know sense. Why stay on earth, just leave this planet. They don't need humanity not one bit. One thing that is true in a situation like this we would all be afriad, shit we were terrified of taking covic shots so i get that part.
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 Жыл бұрын
They stay because it’s there home and they will fight for it.
@Dreamfox-df6bg
@Dreamfox-df6bg Жыл бұрын
The problem with many superhero universes is that they only work within certain constraints. Leave them behind and it doesn't work any more once you start asking questions.
@baloneyjusticecheezedog
@baloneyjusticecheezedog Жыл бұрын
Honestly if there was not so much doom and gloom around Krakoa I would be vary excited to see what kind of enterprise Emma and Tony would be launching to get rich again. Tony Stark could sell just about anything when he is not sauced up, and Emma Frost could command legions of people to make anything Tony comes up with... Plus even if Krakoa falls.. The mutants have gate ways into outer space.. they could worse comes to worse just go to AValon or go to Planet Arakka.. Humanity might not miss Mutants right away.. but they would sure as hell welcome them back should the planet get attacked by baddies like the Brood or what not.
@ozziemsmith
@ozziemsmith Жыл бұрын
I like many others, I am really over this "I hate mutants" story arc. I know its comics, but its extremely over done... I loved krakoa because of the change. Every other team has been though change that stuck around for a while. Avengers base is in a celestial head. FF has been progressively moving forward as well. Most of these other teams have solid foundations which enables better character development. Although I've seen character development here, it seems like its 3 steps forward and 4 steps back. All the time. Enough already. I'm not a big fan of DC. But there meta humans are equivalent to mutants. And while there are individuals/groups that dislike them, this same level of hate is not as prevalent. So it forces writers to come up with dynamic story lines. Some are hits and other are a miss. But why cant we get to that point. At times its just exhausting to read about mutants being hated...it doesnt even seem real that theyve saved the earth so many times but yet are quick to be killed to the point of extinction only to start all over again... If we go back to a mansion, I'll be done with the X books for a while. It is good to see the avengers more involved, although it seem minimal at this point. Other than that, I'm just ready for a lasting change...
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Thank you. If DC can have their equivalent of mutants not be hated just because they exist then Marvel can work on stories that dont revolve around that. It is so old and makes no logical sense lore wise. After decades of living with mutants humanity would have accepted them by now. They arent aliens they are people.
@SuiteVII
@SuiteVII Жыл бұрын
It’s because Marvel is based on America IRL. And we are still hating
@danielivanov930
@danielivanov930 Жыл бұрын
Btw Nature girl kicked the 🍑 out of the current x-men team .Killing off Scott ,putting down Jean and Iceman with ease .They did them dirty there 🤣.Synch,Magik and Wolverine (Talon) couldn't do much against her either for some reason despite Synch to be able to copy dozens of abilities .
@patd9850
@patd9850 Жыл бұрын
So what do you want to bring back the days of future past!!! 😓🥃
@gilliamatkinson178
@gilliamatkinson178 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel man! Keep it up 😊
@johnrobbins4496
@johnrobbins4496 Жыл бұрын
😂 u kept a straight face almost that whole like and subscribe pitch, well played lol
@alguemalguem
@alguemalguem Жыл бұрын
Didn't X-Corporation also provide a sizable revenue stream for Krakoa? Angel and Monet were in charge of it. We haven't heard of it for a while, and I don't recall any word of that going under.
@scottnewsome5828
@scottnewsome5828 Жыл бұрын
Hope is so weak! Doug was too far away to copy his power? Synch copied/mimicked Jean a galaxy away. Justice for Synch! Update the Omega list. Say it until it’s backwards!
@RegentofArrako
@RegentofArrako Жыл бұрын
😂
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 9 ай бұрын
Synch did not copy Jean back then, it was a form of "muscle memory". He basically recalled Jean's powers to an extent, that's why he's now on list of potential Omega Levels.
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent issue. This issue plus what happened in Rogue & Gambit # 5, Destiny has a lot on her mind.
@corbanwoosley6891
@corbanwoosley6891 Жыл бұрын
I argue that an island full of mutants should not need money
@panthergawwwddd5887
@panthergawwwddd5887 Жыл бұрын
Lmao “two broke people trying to build something” 😂 great video! Looking forward to getting caught up on everything!
@landoson
@landoson Жыл бұрын
Pressed the like button
@devegas4910
@devegas4910 Жыл бұрын
I think the other reason why destiny doesn’t have anybody listening to her is also because she has probably lost favor as well. While I’m sure they don’t know EVERYTHING that destiny did, they probably know by now that she knew well enough that some of this would happen and didn’t tell anyone. She just got mystique and herself up out of there and let everything else go to shit until mystique was no longer okay with that. And now thanks to mother righteous making mystique kill her, doubt has been cast on her the same way it was cast on all resurrections. Thanks to mother righteous as well, mystique doesn’t fully trust her to not try to manipulate her. Storm DEFINITELY doesn’t trust her either.
@virgobrown72
@virgobrown72 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I hate this so much. The X-Men is what originally drew me into comics, and Krakoa felt like a come up for my folks. I don’t want them to lose the island…..
@QbrotherSoulStar
@QbrotherSoulStar Жыл бұрын
I love how this video started of saying it it was just sinister then goes on to point a lot of the mutants were jerks.
@blaque5582
@blaque5582 Жыл бұрын
Earnie!!! You silly as hell boy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you came out on some “for 60 cents a day, the price of a cup of coffee ish “ lmfao. I had to hit that like bro.😂
@earthshaker1217
@earthshaker1217 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the seasonal structure of the Quiet Council will play a role as well in the Fall of X storyline. Consider how currently Destiny, Professor X, and Hope Summers are on the Autumn/Fall seats of the Council. The Autumn seats represented the idea of tradition and history, but them having Hope and Destiny in those positions makes me think the seats are going to be redirected towards the future of Krakoa and mutantkind. I mean X-Men has played with language well in this age, and Hope and Destiny are concepts centered on the future not the past. So yeah I see Charles being the last person to leave this section and them bringing in someone else. But who?
@koozg7579
@koozg7579 Жыл бұрын
And make it look easy!
@howlin.wolf.murphy
@howlin.wolf.murphy Жыл бұрын
Emma Frost is a walking Diamond more than 1000x bigger than the biggest diamond in existence she’s priceless and her Diamond form is scene more in public then the top 5 diamonds belonging to Royals all cornerstones of their wealth …..
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous Жыл бұрын
The art is clean
@SuiteVII
@SuiteVII Жыл бұрын
I liked 4 Krakoa ✊🏿
@RegentofArrako
@RegentofArrako Жыл бұрын
This is all Doug’s, Sinister, and Irene’s fault. The three stooges
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
Yeah, If Doug hadn’t allowed Moira to leave, she wouldn’t have fed Orchis with private information about Krakoa.
@RegentofArrako
@RegentofArrako Жыл бұрын
@@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin yes! He thought he was doing something special. I was so pissed he let her go
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
@@RegentofArrako that tells us readers that, sometimes, heroes need to be cynical. Specially with the X-men, that have always to fight in order to leave.
@trembledust6819
@trembledust6819 Жыл бұрын
#JusticeforKrakoa!
@hellblaze10
@hellblaze10 Жыл бұрын
One thing I'm a little annoyed about when he talked about the sinister files is the point that the comic made. It didn't mater that it was only sinister, they gave him a seat on there government knowing that he would eventually betray them. No amount of blame shifting can change that fact.
@RegentofArrako
@RegentofArrako Жыл бұрын
Exactlyyyyyyy. I hated that he was on the island after all he has done.
@ZeeB...
@ZeeB... Жыл бұрын
I said that as well. I never understood why he was there, why mystique and destiny were there, especially Sebastian Shaw. These people had no business in the council. Hell. I didn't even want Charles there.
@hellblaze10
@hellblaze10 Жыл бұрын
@@ZeeB... destiny and shaw make sense. The other 2 definitely don't belong
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz Жыл бұрын
Sinister was there because of his gene cataloguing of mutants which was needed for the resurrection protocols.
@jacksondaniels007
@jacksondaniels007 Жыл бұрын
Sinister is really more of a mutate than a mutant but their world doesn't care, they've always found reason to hate mutants n the 616 universe
@hellblaze10
@hellblaze10 Жыл бұрын
Also the difference doesn't matter
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
That was before Krakoa. Sinister resurrected himself with Thunderbird genes on his body, wich would make him an artificial mutant. The one that can be considered a mutate is Doctor Stasis
@heartlessangel1460
@heartlessangel1460 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Colossus hasn't been psychic scanned.
@chriscueva1866
@chriscueva1866 Жыл бұрын
The chronicler is warping reality to make what he writes true. Telepathy is ineffective.
@RegentofArrako
@RegentofArrako Жыл бұрын
Almost. Emma was gonna shut His mind down
@perryinabinett2372
@perryinabinett2372 Жыл бұрын
What breakes my heart is since 1979 every year the hate has grown. Leave the mutants alone
@ugoeze7360
@ugoeze7360 Жыл бұрын
With Judgement Day, The Fall of X books and Days of Future Past: Doomsday, I’m thinking the editors are trying to tell us something: mutants ain’t meant to be happy.
@yaqinmalul6467
@yaqinmalul6467 Жыл бұрын
Spiderman; PATHATIC
@ladonte1980
@ladonte1980 Жыл бұрын
Tona and Emma situation is one of the most realistic things in comics! 😆 love while broke...
@kingdon7795
@kingdon7795 Жыл бұрын
Tona 😂
@ladonte1980
@ladonte1980 11 ай бұрын
@@kingdon7795 typo! Lol
@gonzalogutierrez117
@gonzalogutierrez117 Жыл бұрын
just subscribed
@jomaroverall3844
@jomaroverall3844 Жыл бұрын
Seems Warren Worthington is still the smartest businessman in the Xmen family.
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a Bishop/Black Panther series.
@JohnnyTronny19841
@JohnnyTronny19841 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some have spoken on this but...Cypher is bonded with Warlock, a portion of the technarch.......that has to play out in some kind of way with regards to the machine/man ORCHIS thing
@moscreefus
@moscreefus Жыл бұрын
I guess people like this stuff, but nothing about this era says X-Men or heroics to me, and the "twists" were literally telegraphed in the opening panel
@Nikke283
@Nikke283 Жыл бұрын
I am a subcriber...for a while ...feeding
@jackieanderson9408
@jackieanderson9408 Жыл бұрын
Good 😊
@justo1409
@justo1409 Жыл бұрын
The x men fell into obscurity
@sorboom
@sorboom Жыл бұрын
For krakoa!
@bosmeriosmosis215
@bosmeriosmosis215 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if I can use your channel to get Rob from comics explained to redo marvel zombies.
@MrCrazysnoopy
@MrCrazysnoopy Жыл бұрын
After the fall of x im done but ill stick with you reviews cause tou rock blerd
@drphot6050
@drphot6050 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Mr. Sinister to make it to the MCU!
@markwalker091
@markwalker091 Жыл бұрын
Somebody SAVE my baby Doug!
@bill930505
@bill930505 Жыл бұрын
Irene shouldn’t have raised her hand, which might be the mistake. Or was it that there wasn’t enough objections from the council? Would the blinding white nothing, might be pointing more towards the return of the Phoenix, because only Jean has access to the White Hot Room, and can even make changes to the timeline of future events. We may have to look out for Jean Grey and the classified book, alongside G.O.D.S. to see if the whole picture fits into what Destiny has to prepare for.
@kandondooley89
@kandondooley89 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, all this smoke humanity has for mutants... Why dont the other superhumans get this treatment?(Hulk and Spider-Man, I see ya)
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous Жыл бұрын
Is it really ressurection if its a clone. I mean at least get all doctor strange with it all and put the spirits in the new bodies
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
It is to be considered the real them. Hickman called the “anima”, wich is supposed to be considered as their essence, their soul. Wanda herself created an entire pocket dimensions for mutants souls to go, wich Cerebro can backup.
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous Жыл бұрын
@@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin I see. I've been hoping for someone to explain that for me. Although at the same time what does that mean for other heroes like X23 and her otherself. I don't read X Men on the regular so I have to find out this stuff separately. Well she's Wolverine now. But I know there are two of them due to some unitended event.
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
@@AstraFulminous the situation of Laura is indeed complicated and Gerry Duggan has not cleared that up yet. The general idea is that the Old Woman Laura (that came from the Vault) is the original Laura. The one that we’ve been following since she was introduced in the comics. The one that loves Synch and etc. The one that got wrongly resurrected by the five would be a new person, wich would imply that she has a NEW/different soul. But, again, it was not cleared it up by Duggan.
@deelystanonfightcade2
@deelystanonfightcade2 Жыл бұрын
…krakoa fell too fast. I need oneshots or what ifs or SOMETHING set during the height of krakoa or in a reality where Sinister is snuffed out or something man…cant let mutants have NOTHIN man 😫😣😫
@johnwright9049
@johnwright9049 Жыл бұрын
Releasing the files of Nathaniel Essex is a good way to progress forward to fall of X.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Not really
@johnwright9049
@johnwright9049 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSmith-nb6md ok
@captainomega6315
@captainomega6315 Жыл бұрын
I just want mutants to catch a break man come on marvel just let them be happy please 😢
@droskie5
@droskie5 Жыл бұрын
And where are the humans who don't hate mutants? The writers seem hellbent on portraying all humans as haters. it's getting real old and boring. Judgement day should have provided a way forward, put humans and mutants in good terms and introduced a common villain. How long does marvel hope to continue mining this idea?
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Marvel has been milking that dead cow for a long time now. They wont stop until the body has rotted away completely
@joeparrigen4982
@joeparrigen4982 11 ай бұрын
That's why I didn't want them turning Moira into a Mutant. She was one of their human allies, which showed that not all humanity hated mutants.
@Solider7
@Solider7 Жыл бұрын
This is turning into the Cadmas saga from Justice League: Unlimited. I wonder how all of this madness will affect Arrako.
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz Жыл бұрын
The mutants of Arrako have their own huge problem.
@BankkeyAoshi
@BankkeyAoshi Жыл бұрын
💪🏾💙
@devaughnjohnson
@devaughnjohnson Жыл бұрын
Destiny can’t be counted on she’ll always put Mystique first Krakoa needs a fresh council even Storm has fallen short of the mark.
@ZeeB...
@ZeeB... Жыл бұрын
Yup, they need people with fresh eyes but with leadership capabilities, people who usually don't get enough attention like Cannonball, Angel, Danielle Moonstar, or someone else. I agree with Syorm I honestly wish she just stay on Arrakko and focus on that only and stop spreading herself too thin with all these wars going on.
@iamjustsham1066
@iamjustsham1066 Жыл бұрын
What happened Proteus.....why has he not do anything about his mother or avenge her
@gyalis
@gyalis Жыл бұрын
I think If he didn’t do it to Charles,Charles would have known he wasn’t doing it
@tracyalan7201
@tracyalan7201 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh bringing the point of Krakoa, what about Arakko? Wouldn't Arakko be the Yin to the Yan of Krakoa? What were the impact of Arakko when the Uranos decimated the Arakko mutants? While it looks bad, this issue has a saving point for Krakoa/Cypher, along with Rogue & Gambit/Manifold. It's an interesting direction but with superhero community, like the Avengers Unity, it might be promising in the works. Eventually, Orchis forces will fall, and the mutants will slowly emerge back. Gensis is returning, Arakko will be targeted and eventually Krakoa and the humans, which will pit Annihilation versus Orchis. We shall see.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 Жыл бұрын
Kra-bro-a Keeping it's homies safe. (Technically Warlock is still with Cipher.)
@EmperorDxD
@EmperorDxD Жыл бұрын
Did you hear we getting a bew ms Marvel comic
@Bernie4
@Bernie4 Жыл бұрын
I liked for krakkoa 😂😂😂
@RaccoonWithBev
@RaccoonWithBev Жыл бұрын
Didn’t plan on liking the video, but since Krakoa’s life is at stake, I’ll oblige.
@johndeconqueroo2808
@johndeconqueroo2808 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would was a planet Okkara and recreate Threshold as it’s capital city
@TubezThe1
@TubezThe1 Жыл бұрын
Yo Where is Bai the Badd- I mean, Blood Moon? I feel like she's got something to say about her husband being dragged under the island. Granite nobody would understand what you saying, but still what she has to say matters.
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Granite lol
@brendaspence1824
@brendaspence1824 Жыл бұрын
So the x men are gonna go back to living in a cooped up mansion and back to being punching bags Damn they were actually equals with the world with krakoa
@davidbromfield8328
@davidbromfield8328 Жыл бұрын
Cypher is so full of himself for someone who has seen everything he has done backfire on him
@ZeeB...
@ZeeB... Жыл бұрын
That's true and he admitted to how wrong he was but Krakoa still thinks he needs to be protected from the council.
@davidbromfield8328
@davidbromfield8328 Жыл бұрын
@@ZeeB... After the council decided to go ahead and approve his suggestion of dissolution.
@nobodyexceptme7794
@nobodyexceptme7794 Жыл бұрын
In the arrrrrrrms of an exodus....for the low cost of .99 mysterium a month you can feed 100 yards of krakoan Island and keep mutants out of your neighborhood.
@BlakeJackson2001
@BlakeJackson2001 Жыл бұрын
Just feed the island..a simple like button can save the place.
@jesusdicent2
@jesusdicent2 Жыл бұрын
Mutant Morlocks, AKA Deviant Dominant Mutants
@aarojpoll
@aarojpoll Жыл бұрын
I liked the video so krakoa wouldn't die
@RevSinkiller
@RevSinkiller Жыл бұрын
Did we forget that Sinister isn't a mutant?
@jasondavis2995
@jasondavis2995 Жыл бұрын
Did something happen to the metal that they were making in space?
@5minutesofcrack719
@5minutesofcrack719 Жыл бұрын
Sinister isn't even a mutant himself he was a mutate mutant by A which is the funny thing
@arthurjacksonjr6432
@arthurjacksonjr6432 Жыл бұрын
What does Shaw and Selene have to gain by releasing the Sinister Files? They act like they are not worried about Orchis or the Sentines at all. Is this because of Mother Righteous?
@dirtandsilkk
@dirtandsilkk 3 ай бұрын
What about X-Corp?
@arthurjacksonjr6432
@arthurjacksonjr6432 Жыл бұрын
The pit is for punishing criminals. How else are they to punish law breakers?
@gabrielknight6626
@gabrielknight6626 Жыл бұрын
This story is fitting to be really good. The fall of X is hilarious
@watsondontaable
@watsondontaable Жыл бұрын
They found a way to live without all the bs and now there are like ten different ways that peace can be destroyed. Let the mutants live. #mutantlivesmatter 😅
@ReggieMosbyJr
@ReggieMosbyJr Жыл бұрын
I hate the humans in Marvel so much
@VoxMachina8
@VoxMachina8 Жыл бұрын
Emma should not be broke. There's a world of difference between income and wealth. She should still have plenty of wealth even if the income is taken away. That should not matter, especially not that quickly. What is she throwing her money into a black hole or something?
@PaulSmith-nb6md
@PaulSmith-nb6md Жыл бұрын
Bad writing
@VoxMachina8
@VoxMachina8 Жыл бұрын
@PaulSmith-nb6md or writing from people with zero understanding of wealth vs income. Money is like a magic trick to them. It appears and disappears without any reasonable explanation.
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin Жыл бұрын
She isn’t. That’s not what the issue actually says. Emma is talking about the economic situation of the country, not her private income.
@VoxMachina8
@VoxMachina8 Жыл бұрын
@wandadjangomaximoff2559 thanks for the clarification.
@unityblack79
@unityblack79 Жыл бұрын
Lol greatest psa for like and shares lol
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