Both cameras are very good for different tasks. I have BMMCC because I planned to use it specifically for complex staged filming. And the decisive factor was the presence of the RAW 3.1 format. Although when I travel I want to have OG in my pocket. Thanks for video :)
@WillvonTagen8 ай бұрын
That all makes sense! Thank for watching :)
@uqbar4227 күн бұрын
Just last night, I arrived at home with a brand new dummy battery for my Blackmagic Micro and I couldn't resist but to test it at 10pm. I rigged it with a 20.000mAh powerbank and used an old cellphone with an HDMI to USB-C adapter as monitor, a proper cage and and a simple handgrip. This is easily my favourite personal rig ever.
@christopherduran99269 ай бұрын
No way, you finally did it! So excited I’m commenting before even watching haha
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Hahaha, you bet! And thanks :)
@Jack6553219 ай бұрын
Good to see a video that finally compares the two in depth. Have both, love em both. But I mostly use the BMMCC for slo-mo. Everything else, the BMPCC is just too handy to pick up and go. And I agree with the slightly more filmic image quality. Hard to put you finger on, it's just something with the movement and it's maybe a tad softer than the BMMCC, resulting in a slightly more nostalgic image.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Great observations 👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks for watching :)
@CoscarelliFan9 ай бұрын
THOROUGHLY enjoyed this. BM should have hired you years ago. Your thoughts on 1080p with these gorgeous cameras are spot on. I happen to own both and love them and totally agree with so much of your insight. Fabulous production and footage.
@WillvonTagen8 ай бұрын
Hahah, thank you very much :)
@chrisbogart6879 ай бұрын
I have two BMPCC OGs and a BMMCC - so I have the best of both worlds. I end up using the BMPCC OGs more than the BMMCC and even my BMPCC 4K - just a handy little cinema camera to have.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Very handy for sure. Thanks for watching!
@joshuahartwell92249 ай бұрын
What is it about to OG that makes you use it more than your 4K? The size? Image? Both?
@chrisbogart6879 ай бұрын
@@joshuahartwell9224 size without sacrificing image quality.
@Stick3x8 ай бұрын
I bought two of the og pockets back in the day. One died right after I used it only once and they cost 1,000 bucks each.
@NineVoltDigitalCinema9 ай бұрын
Great comparison, and fair points. I was thinking of selling my BMPCC, as I don't use it much anymore, but seeing this has me reconsidering. It just has such a sweet look!
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Definitely hang on to it ;)
@asiwas7 ай бұрын
Hey, Will… I still plan on getting one of your cages… Just saving so I can get everything in one pop, to save on shipping. Love what you do! thank you!
@WillvonTagen7 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks man, that means a lot. And thanks for watching!
@lucasbarros59379 ай бұрын
I always wanted the OG pocket when it launched but it was always too expensive for me as a teen. But now I’d love to try it out some day.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Grab one while you can ;)
@SourceAwareness9 ай бұрын
Hey Lucas, if you look around the Net often, and are patient, you can find one for $500 to $600 USD, sometimes for even less. Good luck!
@johnteaguefilm9 ай бұрын
Maybe I just had a "lemon", but I had constant issues with the Micro I had, and the fixed noise pattern was horrible even in daylight setups. But with the 3 OG Pocket's I've had, it has been mostly smooth sailing once you do a bit of research into overcoming the camera's shortcomings. The image quality has been the highlight by far. For me OG produces a filmic image more easily than any other camera. Also, piling hours of RAW footage onto a $20 memory card is awesome.
@WillvonTagen8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Sorry to hear you got a lemon but glad the OG has been a hit for you. It really is one of my favorites :)
@loadedtadpole9 ай бұрын
Great comparison. No bullshit. Just facts and awesome insight. Thanks for this! Great job.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks! I appreciate it :)
@Ponpont8 ай бұрын
Hi ! love the video, have you tried the BMMCC 4K ? Looking to see how it compare between those. Cheers !
@obiwanmartyn9 ай бұрын
Now imagine if they released an updated Micro camera (and just like Blackmagic build it bigger but still call it micro), Super 35mm sensor, internal Braw with a V mount battery plate, Sdi, Timecode and HDMI out with a full sized XLR handle adapter, 120fps for slow motion and internal Nds essentially making a proper box camera similar to say a Red Komodo but pricing it like the 6K Pro
@hossfilm79718 ай бұрын
Or... hear me out... You get a Z-Cam E2-F6 Pro.
@SourceAwareness9 ай бұрын
This is Excellent, thanks for making this comparison, Will, my Brother!
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@innstikk8 ай бұрын
I'd give it to BMPCC OG too as it is the only one that can be used without being rigged out.
@432vibes9 ай бұрын
Is this a 8-64 that i see?!!? 😍 @ 6:39 I've 3 og and looking for a micro if a good deal pop up 🤞 totally in love with the OG's and with your cage. Thanks for protecting theses legacies camera 🙏 and for all the videos about !
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
It is! Good eye ;) Thanks for your support :)
@bretthazlett9 ай бұрын
Thank-you for this comparison! Have you found a SD card which can sustain RAW 3:1 @60p on the BMMCC or did you capture ProRes @60p via HDMI?
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Thank you! The green Kingston cards shown in the video (and linked in the description) handle the 3:1 60p without a problem. I honestly never shoot ProRes, lol.
@jesse5905Ай бұрын
Hi there, great video! Can you please make a video demonstrating how you remove moire in davinci resolve as you mentioned here?
@AaronStowers9 ай бұрын
Great video, but I must disagree with you on the audio on the original BMMCC. I was one of the 1st people in the country with this camera and I have shot multiple short films with it and I still use it to this day.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
It’s a great little camera.
@richardweddle34089 ай бұрын
Thanks for this analysis. Love your edit on the "but, but, but ..." Your analysis leaves me more undecided on which camera to buy than ever. The new upgraded New Mini Micro 4K is due to be released any day now. Will you review it? Perhaps you will reconsider some of your conclusions.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! Yes, I am very excited for the new Micro G2. You will definitely see a review of it here :)
@richardweddle34089 ай бұрын
I'm hope that 2 Micro G2's can be genlocked in sync @@WillvonTagen
@Iso_8009 ай бұрын
A fair and informative comparison. Thanks for sharing.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SourceAwareness9 ай бұрын
100% agreed! Glad to see you here, since I was just at your awesome channel as well, hehe. Cheers, Brothers.
@PhillipRPeck9 ай бұрын
Those Kingston SD cards work for shooting in CDNG? This was a fun comparison and I loved your footage of Taipei!
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Yessir, they work great. I would say they are the “go to” cards for current BMPCC/Mirco users. Thanks and thanks for watching!
@patriciobarrios46027 күн бұрын
me encanta el look de la OG, y en pleno 2024 planeo comprarla. espero no se mucha molestia, tu podrías compartir RAW de esa camara ? solo unos segundos de video, si es posible de dia, te lo voy a agradecer mucho, quiero ver como se comporta el RAW en davinci.. Muchas gracias
@jimkoral38249 ай бұрын
How do you eliminate moire in Resolve?
@harshsingh66923 ай бұрын
Will, thank you for your work. One of the sources which helped me put together my bmpcc og based rig for my projects 3 years ago, and I have to say even now its difficult to move to another camera. Super thankful for that. I need some help though regarding Timecode. I am preparing for my next solo doc project where I have 2(sometimes 3) audio sources recorded externally. And I REALLY want to use Timecode. Do you have any insight/ experience regarding this for Bmpcc OG? Can I input LTC timecode from tentacle to OG's audio input? Else, I have to move towards BMMCC (i think it has timecode feature). Thank you in advance!
@WillvonTagen3 ай бұрын
So glad it was helpful! Yes, you can run a tentacle into then OG. Just about anything with an audio input will accept that timecode method.
@harshsingh66923 ай бұрын
@@WillvonTagen Alright, thank you! looking forward to testing the whole setup!
@LiveMyJourneyTom9 ай бұрын
Nice comparisons weighing the fact first and giving own feelings second. I owned and used both and personally I couldn’t tell the difference judging by the image or motion. I’ve even used the micro striped out with just a lens and a mobile attached for monitoring and although it wasn’t too obtrusive it wasn’t not as pleasant to work as the bmpcc with its shitty screen. When I’ll get one again at some stage I’m sure I’ll go for the OG.
@johnbrowningdp9 ай бұрын
I'm interested in purchasing your Metabones/Viltrox adapter lock for my BMMCC. Will it work with the SmallRig cage for the Micro? SmallRig have long since discontinued their adapter lock so it looks like this is my only option.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
It will not work with the Smallrig cage, sorry.
@mex53418 ай бұрын
great cameras! I wish someone would sell it with a kit / rig as a minimal kit for work with it . cuz cameras cost less than all accessories
@NEOGRAYFILMS9 ай бұрын
Great job Will! Thanks for sharing. 🔥
@DavidPalmer_blinder9 ай бұрын
first off, excellent video. second, i have to agree 100%. even with your cage on my OG, i can just toss it in my bag and when i take it out and do some shooting it does indeed look like some piece of crap normie point-and-shoot camera. even the lens i use (the lumix 12-35) makes it look even more "meh" in most people's eyes. i never really considered how important this was till earlier this year i was getting shots with my 6k g2, which was rigged out with matte box, a cine lens, monitor, rods, focus puller, etc. and just getting the hard stares from everyone!
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Haha, totally! Thanks for watching and for your support. Hope you like the cage!
@Hipster_In_Denial7 ай бұрын
Anyone used the Metabones Nikon G to BMPCC OG 0.58x Speedbooster on the Micro? It says on the Metabones page that it's compatible with the BMMCC, but I found it to be a tight fit. I've heard other users having similar issues. Is it better to use the 0.64x? Thanks for the video, Will. Always appreciate your valuable information and insights on these wonderful cameras. They do amazing things.
@WillvonTagen7 ай бұрын
I’ve never used Nikon so I cannot say for sure.. but thanks for watching and for the kind words!
@88Tariel9 ай бұрын
Nice comparison between the two. I have both cameras and I love them both. I asked someone else about the difference between the two cameras and he answered : " in my opinion, the bmmcc footage has a flat matte look while the og-bmpcc footage has a shiny glossier look. I like the glossy bmpcc look more. Others will swear there’s no difference. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/map6m5CgurjKYnk.html"
@33rdframe8 ай бұрын
If it wasn't for the media recording issue then I'd say the bmmcc is a better camera by a long shot
@WillvonTagen8 ай бұрын
What media recording issue?
@33rdframe8 ай бұрын
@@WillvonTagen the fact 99% of SD cards cannot work with 60fps raw. I got the recommended 256 Kingston canvas cards and it would often drop frames. I then tried lexar, Sandisk and many others with no luck. The Kingston canvas were the best and did 50 fps just fine but it's a real bummer
@haarew8336Ай бұрын
What gimbal do you use for both camera?
@WillvonTagenАй бұрын
I have an old Ronin SC but I really don’t ever use gimbals.
@PawelChyrowski8 ай бұрын
Rawlite OLPF - Must have
@christopherduran99268 ай бұрын
And the .58 metabones Speedbooster as well Maybe not mandatory, but REALLY nice to have. With the SmallRig lens support, it just lives on our camera bolted to the cage
@hugomalpeyre9 ай бұрын
the king is back !
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@91darko6 ай бұрын
Can you use Micro Studio Camera 4K G2 as a webcam?
@WillvonTagen6 ай бұрын
You definitely can 👍🏻
@91darko5 ай бұрын
@@WillvonTagen But only up to 1080p / 60fps ?
@_lucasoliver.oficial7 ай бұрын
Could you help me, my blackmagic pocket cinema cinema OG updated, making it very bad, the menu is strange, missing settings, can you tell if there is a way to return the camera to the previous version. In need of your help
@WillvonTagen7 ай бұрын
Version 2.1 was the latest update for the OG. I’m not certain if there is a way to go back versions, but I would stick to 2.1 and try to make it work for you. I think it has all the settings and more from the earlier versions (and actually provides more record time on your cards in some cases). What settings are you missing, out of curiosity?
@_lucasoliver.oficial7 ай бұрын
These functions have been removed, I can only record RAW and proxy hq or the other formats are no longer available, there is no option to format the memory card, the histogram is also gone, the audio reference is not available either, the 4:3 reference formats, 2:39.1 and others also left. They ended the system, I already sent an email to Blackmagick support, because the camera is horrible with this update@@WillvonTagen
@WillvonTagen7 ай бұрын
@@_lucasoliver.oficial I am not sure if you did the update correctly. i would try it again and be sure it is the v 2.1. You should have all levels of prores and ability to format your card. There is no firmware "update" that would have removed those options.
@_lucasoliver.oficial7 ай бұрын
And I'll send you a video by email, so you can seer@@WillvonTagen
Probably a fool's hope, but I'm hoping there will be a BMPCC HD G2. Actually, just a reissue of the original might be a better idea.
@WillvonTagen5 ай бұрын
That would be cool but I don't think it would happen. If they did, it probably would have occurred at the 10 year anniversary or something like that. But BMD would rather move forward than look back.
@musar035805 ай бұрын
@@WillvonTagen I think you are right. BMD is moving on. And so am I. I've owned a BMPCC OG for several years, but since my previous post I've decided to migrate to the SIGMA fp -- full-frame, 4k, RAW recording, compact, modular, easily rigged out form factor.
@WillvonTagen5 ай бұрын
Nice! I’m about to release a cage for the FP as well 👍🏻
@musar035805 ай бұрын
@@WillvonTagen Excellent! I've already ordered the fp and SIGMA's kit 45mm f/2.8 lens that goes with it and will be looking for a cage and accessories. Some of the rigging from my BMPCC setup will be usable with the new camera, but I'll keep an eye on your offerings for fp-specific things I may need.
@Tony__S9 ай бұрын
The OG Pocket records 1952x1112 while the micro records 1952x1104 in DNG, with the DNG telling software to open the files as 1920x1080. So the OG has 16 extra pixels in each direction while the micro has 16 left and right, and 12 up and down. If you open them in something like Rawtherapee you can get some more resolution out of them. The micro also reads the sensor 33% faster, which is why it can shoot 60fps and which also means 33% less rolling shutter. The OG's rolling shutter is really terrible. The Micro has a cooling fan which keeps the sensor at an optimal temp for image noise. the OG gets hot Both cameras can also have an OLPF installed (e.g. Rawlite) which will greatly reduce the color artifacts and eliminate infrared contamination.
@Tony__S9 ай бұрын
Also I doubt anyone in taipei's tourist areas cared to see a tall westerner with a camera, its just your fantasy. for you it was a special trip in a foreign place. for them it was 禮拜二
@atlasofambience9 ай бұрын
lol what’s your point? You don’t think tourists from Taipei visiting western countries do the same? It’s the beauty of traveling and experiencing new places, and most people want to document that experience one way or another. Don’t get the point your trying to make
@deegees739 ай бұрын
The Micro has the advantage when comparing rolling shutter. It’s horrible on the OG. Not too bad on the Micro.
@christopherduran99269 ай бұрын
Yup, better RS, raw 3:1, 60 fps, full size hdmi, better cooling fan…MICRO is clearly the way to go.
@WillvonTagen9 ай бұрын
I don’t know that I would say “horrible,” but I guess it depends on how you use it and with what lens. Thanks for watching!
@camerynduran39148 ай бұрын
For new cards, these are the way to go Kingston 512GB Canvas Select Plus UHS-I SDXC Memory Card @@Mandeologul We also use some of the old SanDisk ones for 60fps Raw 3:1 and one of the older Kingston Models, but the first one I listed should serve you well