BMW e46 M3 Vs e92 M3 - Years of owning both I give the breakdown on the ownership of the generations

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Stone Automotive

Stone Automotive

Жыл бұрын

Follow me on this episode discussing both my e46 & e92 M3, the outcome will likely surprise the original subscribers but hopefully makes sense!
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@alanmcgrath8113
@alanmcgrath8113 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, I owned an SMG E46 & manual E92 M3 together for a year, I recently sold the E92. I pretty much agree with everything you said. The E92 is the better all rounder and much easier to live with as a daily. But with 3 young kids neither of them were practical enough for me, so one had to make way for something more practical and the E92 lost out, its a great car and the S65 is phenomenal. But I just love the E46, it always felt that bit more special on a spirited drive.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 😎 That makes sense, would be the same if it was just a weekend toy (no kids yet for me to worry about this practical life style 😅)
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
I agree. The E46 M3 seems to have more space in the rear too. But the thing that sways me against the E90/92 M3 is its mpg's. I understand that its a sports car, and mpg's shouldn't matter that much, BUT the E90/92 M3 is really bad compared to most other cars on the road. And I mean really bad...
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@JacesOwnWorld I was actually expecting the S65 to be worse than it was on fuel 😅 don’t get me wrong it’s not great lol but when you factor in that it’s another 800cc and doesn’t make any real power till 5,000rpm I can cut the S65 some slack.. still a bitter pill to swallow at the pumps but you guys in the states get a better run than us (premium unleaded is over $2 per litre in the Uk)
@shaun1887
@shaun1887 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Hi buddy where did you get the injectors for the e92 m3 ?
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@shaun1887 all detailed in the injector fitting video, place in the states ECS or something, was a while ago now (apparently cost has gone up a chunk though ☹️)
@tonymoreton7166
@tonymoreton7166 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Ran a manual E46 (standard) for 9 years & 138k miles. Now run a manual E92 Monte Carlo for 12 y & 118k miles. Both amazing cars. Will never sell the E92.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video and sounds like you can relate to the comments having owned both 👍
@mattnycm3
@mattnycm3 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I owned an E46 back in 2008 and it was a great car. I always loved the raspy sound of the exhaust.
@J555K
@J555K Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these two cars. I wanted to see such comparison for ages and you made it perfect. I am a big NA fan and the way you cut them against each other with the great sound quality is awesome. Really enjoyed it, wish I had the space for both :)
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad it was worth the wait 😬 finally got it done even if the 4K video files nearly caused my old Mac to have a break down 😅
@robertjenkinson3360
@robertjenkinson3360 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really nice to see the differences from someone who owns both long term. I’d have either, but the E92 is my favourite. 2 amazing cars, with great mods!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert and glad you enjoyed the video 😎 as mentioned you can’t go wrong with either 👍
@nineelevensouth
@nineelevensouth 11 ай бұрын
This video is brilliant mate. Could listen to you talk through this stuff all day. Well done.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 11 ай бұрын
Thanks mate & glad to hear 😎 Plenty more individual content on both cars under the dedicated playlists 😬
@matthewdavies4358
@matthewdavies4358 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - great video. I owned two E46 M3s back in the day and now on to an E92 DCT. Love the dual purpose of the E92. It really ‘does it all’
@alfyer5
@alfyer5 Жыл бұрын
Same I actually owned a coupe and a vert e46 m3 both 6spd at the same time. Now I own a e92 DCT m3 and the car is a much better car compared to the e46. The e46 is for sure the nicer looking car but I feel like the e92 does everything and better than the e46. Plus I feel like the e46 always had little issues here and there. The e92 seems more reliable but the parts seem way more expensive
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew & glad you enjoyed the video 😬 Exactly, glad that’s come across in the video that the e92 fits my car driving requirements better these days, still tons of love for the e46
@helmsman6542
@helmsman6542 Жыл бұрын
Seen a million of the M3 videos by now (being a E90M3 owner since years) but still enjoyed this one very much, good job mate!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thank your Sir 😎 Always good to hear even the owners of the car enjoy the content 👍
@kennysingh2095
@kennysingh2095 Жыл бұрын
Epic video mate and great camera work! Such a good honest owners review of both cars. I feel very similar to you about both but I could never really every fall in love with my E46 M3 so it was sold for a 1M. Along with my manual E92 M3 the 1M makes a great partner. Would love to see you make a video of those 2 together one day! Who needs kids when you got 2 toys!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenny and glad you enjoyed the video 😎 I have reviewed a 1M and I couldn’t help but feel the engine wasn’t special enough for me - love the look/ size but wish they had fitted an S65 in it even if it was de-tuned, would have been the ultimate M car 😎
@jellevanthuyne1984
@jellevanthuyne1984 10 ай бұрын
I own and love my e46 m3 now already for 12 years! I just can’t stop loving it. It’s a dart in slow corners!
@mokotedimogadime8567
@mokotedimogadime8567 Жыл бұрын
That's a really great piece of film. Always better to get a long term owner's honest perspective with real life experience of both cars.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words 😎
@rabmc
@rabmc Жыл бұрын
Fellow e46 m3 owner here, really enjoyed the video and detailed explanation, a huge effort must have went in to recording and editing it, fantastic 👏🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate & glad you enjoyed the video 👌 It did indeed, thought the Mac was gonna call it quits at some parts as it’s getting old now and 4K footage is monstrous compared to 1080p (trying to “future proof” the videos for years to come) always appreciate those that notice the editing, I still have a lot to learn though 😅
@rabmc
@rabmc Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Exactly and the good quality tech ain’t cheap either, I always think with how popular KZfaq is now most people take for granted the time and effort that goes in to making a 10/20min video. Also fantastic how you went from car to car driving to speak about them, gave it a really professional feel 👏🏻
@AutoBeta2T
@AutoBeta2T Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I was in the market for a E46 but got bored of issues with everyone I saw (about 10). Decided to look at the E92 and bought the first one I saw. Love it,. particularly the carbon plenum. Cheers for the great vid 🙂
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 😎 Yep the e46 can be very expensive if you end up having to fix the full list of common faults
@tractioncontroldelete
@tractioncontroldelete Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the watch! Thanks for doing it
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed 😎
@harrywilkinson444
@harrywilkinson444 Жыл бұрын
really enjoyed that James, great enthusiast commentary. glad with the outcome for my sake too haha
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad to to hear Harry 😎
@ricowswave1324
@ricowswave1324 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I sold my cls to get an e92 back just loved the styling and aggressive xx
@KevinButtle
@KevinButtle Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video James. Both are fantastic cars for sure. Great to hear you’re honest review of them having had the pleasure of owning both at the same time. I always loved the E46 M3’s, and that induction bark is just epic. However, as an E92 M3 owner myself I fully agree with all you’ve said. It’s such a Jekyll and Hyde car, and I love that about it. We have two young sons, and we can all go out and enjoy the M3 as a family in comfort on long journeys, but with the flick of the M-button the car becomes a beast capable of putting huge smiles on your face when blasting along a decent road. I have the almost identical mods on my car as you have on yours . The rev-matched downshifts never fail to brighten up your day and put a smile on your face. The E92 M3 is simply an epic car that does everything you could want from a weekend “fun” car so incredibly well. I love mine 👌 It’s a good job I watched your earlier videos on your E92 as they were what made me seriously look into buying one myself. For that I thank you 👍
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin and glad you enjoyed the video 😎 I will be taking mine a step further with the rear cage (no children to worry about yet 😅) Glad the videos helped, hopefully you’ve seen an improvement on the quality of the videos since the earlier ones 😬
@alecxpro2071
@alecxpro2071 Жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis. Nice work man. Thank you
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed & thanks for the kind words 😎
@autoaddict7481
@autoaddict7481 9 күн бұрын
Mate, awesome review, love the level of detail into points that matter. Cheers
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 8 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 😎👍
@MSiautFly
@MSiautFly Жыл бұрын
Spot on SMG explanation 👌and i love it all the way for what it is not what could be❤
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
I think we are part of the very few people that enjoy the SMG 😅 I have no interest in manual converting mine so long live the single clutch paddle shift wonder 😬
@pauldack5129
@pauldack5129 11 ай бұрын
That freaking CSL intake sound is so sick. Remember when I 1st heard that sound on Top Gear. Jeremy Clarkson was driving a gray CSL and I was instantly in love.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 11 ай бұрын
It’s certainly one of a kind and never gets old even all these years later 😎
@mikebader3863
@mikebader3863 Жыл бұрын
What a great pair! Unfortunately when I was in the market I could only get one or the other, I chose the E46 and I’m very happy with it 4 years later
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, Still an awesome choice, as mentioned I love the e46 it’s just my driving requirements have changed these days
@mikebader3863
@mikebader3863 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive I can totally understand that and ideally I’d have both! My E46 M3 is now primarily an ornament that I use when it suits me I’m not reliant on it as a daily (or at least very rarely) so suits me perfectly
@BestMotorWerks
@BestMotorWerks Жыл бұрын
Very simple and to the point review...Well done
@TheS65
@TheS65 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. Good job mate! I have had my 2010 e90 M3 for years. Don’t plan on selling mines.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks & glad you enjoyed, do love the e90 too 😎
@startingtech3900
@startingtech3900 Жыл бұрын
just bought a 2009 BMW E92 M3 in spacegrey metallic over black novillo leather and LET ME TELL YOU! the E92 M3 IS SOOOOO MUCH BETTER preformance wise, handling and sound from the e46 m3! but we cant forgot the earlier models paved the way nice video Stoner Auto
@juicewrldclips6523
@juicewrldclips6523 Жыл бұрын
This guys is such a good car reviewer wow so I’m depth and so true!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@thomashunderman6557
@thomashunderman6557 Жыл бұрын
A pair of beauties! If done good the e46 M3 with aftermarket exhaust sounds so good without rasp or a very little bit. Just done a custom exhaust on my e46 M3. Im back in love after 9 years of ownership.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas 😎 I have heard some that sound okay, just can’t be dealing with all the issues with drone etc - safer to say stock 😅 it would be nice to reduce some weight as the stock system is heavy.. who knows, gotta keep the project going!
@simonp9169
@simonp9169 Жыл бұрын
Obviously opinions vary and I find myself on the outer normally but I much prefer the look of the E92 to the E46...and yours looks amazing! Just to add, I really appreciate what you spoke about leaving the exhaust standard on your E46. Its engine and induction noise that is sorely missing from most cars today and we compensate with noisy exhausts. I drive an F87 M2 (N55) and whilst its one of the better sounding turbo engines, those NA engines in both your cars are where its at.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon 😎 Agree intake/induction noise is slowly disappearing from the streets with forced induction nowadays.. at least you have the best sounding M2, the S55 engine with the twin turbo set up does not make a good sound from the front or back 😅 Hopefully featuring a hybrid M2 against the e92 in the coming weeks 😎
@andycoker3833
@andycoker3833 Жыл бұрын
Great quality video. This is the dream car for me, hopefully one day 🤞
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 😎
@MeeMoo220
@MeeMoo220 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Well done, man.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😎
@finlay230
@finlay230 Жыл бұрын
loved the vid, totally what i needed to watch and think about !!!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear 😎
@dtravis83
@dtravis83 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video and nice to be able to do it with your own cars back to back 👌🏻
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Duncan 😎
@dtravis83
@dtravis83 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive should get my f80 comp in the mix too 😎
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@dtravis83 yea that could be a good one! Where are you based?
@dtravis83
@dtravis83 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive down on the south coast just outside Brighton mate.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@dtravis83 not too far, shall keep you in mind if the time comes for some F80 content 😬
@meandthefamily1485
@meandthefamily1485 Жыл бұрын
A good watch that James , 2 amazing drivers cars , I prefer the E46 for looks but that V8 is a masterpiece , good luck to you Cheers 👍.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thank you & glad you enjoyed it 😎
@ksm1985
@ksm1985 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I went and bought a Pinnacle MSport undertray cos of your other video. Cheers 👍
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate & glad you enjoyed the Pinnacle under tray video, makes a massive difference to the ground clearance 😎
@akar2755
@akar2755 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video. In Aus, both of these are roughly similar in price (low mileage e46 being obviously a bit rare and expensive tho). Legitimately helped a lot to see the day-to-day differences explained in one single vid.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video 😎 both awesome cars so you can’t go wrong with either 👍 Plenty of further details on both cars under the playlist section if you do decide on one 😎
@Big__Ry
@Big__Ry Ай бұрын
30:35 thank you man. The first man to admit the auto is better. Not in general but for the car he likes if that makes sense
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Ай бұрын
I received some mixed opinions on this one 😅 but I do stand by it 👍 Good luck with the search for your own one 😎
@theurbanegentleman4550
@theurbanegentleman4550 Жыл бұрын
Epic video man!! I absolutely adore my E92 M3 manual, especially after sorting it properly. I also have a Z4M coupe, would you ever consider adding that to your collection? In my opinion it’s the most special M car to drive, and I’ve had 5 different M cars
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
I’ve driven a few Z4M’s over the years & reviewed a near standard one and a very highly modified one on the channel (poor audio at the time sadly so not the best video ☹️) but never felt the bond for the Z4M oddly.. engine is the same master piece but didn’t lust after buying one even though on paper it’s more of a weekend toy than the e46 with its tight cabin and 2 seater set up 🤷‍♂️
@emilian93
@emilian93 Жыл бұрын
Both of your cars are beautiful! Great taste!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate 😎
@SashoS91
@SashoS91 Жыл бұрын
These are the only 2 cars I ever want in my life!
@chiganuggoo9929
@chiganuggoo9929 Жыл бұрын
Another superb video. I've owned an E46 M3 for several years and now the E92 M3 Comp Pack, wasn't in the position to be able to hang onto the E46, but I would have if I could. No regrets though, the E92 as you say is better day to day and of course, can turn into an animal at the press of a (correctly set up) M button and of course a primary cat delete. I've had the Stage 2 done on mine and a GTS DCT flash and the car is just a joy to drive when you open it up, yet comfortable as a family saloon when pottering around town... will say it again. but great video mate, really enjoyed it, lways telling it like it is warts n all, we're lucky to be able to own these kind of cars, in a few years nothing like them will ever be made again.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words 😎 Sounds like your e92 is a similar spec to to mine and owning an e46 M3 for so many years I’m sure you can relate to a lot in the video 👍
@Michael-yh5gn
@Michael-yh5gn Жыл бұрын
Great video. 2 beautiful looking/sounding cars..
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael 😎
@Boz23.
@Boz23. 19 күн бұрын
I’m very fortunate to have a manual, Laguna seca 405 bhp m3 sitting on 21 inch low profile rims with custom stainless steel exhaust and k & n cold induction, this and a few more extras gets the most out of the car and makes it definitely not overrated. That being said love your honest review as always
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 18 күн бұрын
Some good numbers that for the modifications 😎👍 Thanks, video has gone down well.. overall 😅
@ElitePayne47
@ElitePayne47 Жыл бұрын
Car history right here, you have some beautiful Ms right there
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😬
@kierantilley2590
@kierantilley2590 Жыл бұрын
Great video, subscribed!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kieran 😎
@kvt9212
@kvt9212 Жыл бұрын
Got an e92 m3 and an e46 300Ci, same colours as yours (white and silvergrey). Great cars, love the facelifted front of the e46 but in total, the e92 is a masterpiece of design and engineering (got an e92 335i with N55 before, had been the perfect daily driver). Greetings from germany
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Those 335i can be turned into seriously fast motors 😎 One of my favourite cars was my e46 320d, just did everything perfectly! Sadly rust got it at 160,000 miles 😵
@garywilleby6727
@garywilleby6727 6 ай бұрын
I've never driven the E92, but I did own an E46 M3 that still holds a special place in my heart, much like my first girlfriend does. Every time I got behind the wheel, the experience was visceral. Many people miss what the E46 M3 is really about. Most of the time, it's pent up like a caged animal behind an SUV pulling into the supermarket because you don't get to run backroads every day. But when you do get the chance to let it loose, it's like unleashing a beast. I think your Jekyll and Hyde reference sums up what I loved about it perfectly. We could go out for dinner, and on the way home, I could enjoy the exhaust and intake noise that corresponded to the attitude of my right foot instantly. It inspired the confidence to do things you probably shouldn't do. The E46 made all the right noises while going slower than the E92, as far as I can tell. From a legal perspective, it might be better to stick with the slower, more visceral experience, but as someone who has experienced M and loved it, that V8 makes sense. I'm not one to modify the exhaust, so that's a hesitation. The earlier version did have it right out of the box.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like you need to get back in an e46 M3 😎👍 Bizarrely until your into the 130+ the e46 is still as fast especially as mine is fitted with the shorter final drive 👍
@barrywakefield4942
@barrywakefield4942 Жыл бұрын
A superb and well put together video many thanks. I’ve still got the E46 M3 CS - which is very similar to yours as a CSL rep. in silver grey. Just had a Karbonius cf roof fitted. Is that the next mod. for yours? Cheers
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry and glad you enjoyed the video 😬 It’s certainly on the cards, it’s a pain with mine as I have a sun roof model so need to find a mint roof lining and purchase a brace apparently! Be nice to get rid of some top heavy weight though 👍
@barrywakefield4942
@barrywakefield4942 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Yes you’re right you will need a brace across the roof where the sunroof is & a new head lining which adds up to a bit of extra cash on top of the Karbonius roof & fitting.
@GinolasVideos
@GinolasVideos Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you took it to Dave down at NAD he does my corner weighting too ;)
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
He’s great, just wish he was more local 😅
@latibes
@latibes Жыл бұрын
The e46 all day long! What a beast!!
@THEDOPEYDAISY
@THEDOPEYDAISY Жыл бұрын
E46 M3 CSL is the greatest M car ever made. E90 M3 with a manual is a cool car.
@mykCNMT
@mykCNMT Жыл бұрын
currently have the opportunity to purchase my dream car...but can't seem to decide... this video has helped me figure out how to weight the differences..but its still so hard to decide. e46 m3 or e92 m3. I wish I could do what you did and own Both and put m4 seats in them...hahah.. such an awesome video!! I will have to rewatch a few times to help me decide...
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Owning both is the ultimate solution 😂 but in all honesty both fantastic cars so you won’t go wrong with either 👍
@Biggyc7
@Biggyc7 Жыл бұрын
Good comparison and review, think you have it spot on. I have both an e92 comp dct and e46 m3 manual which has clubsport mods (coil overs, half cage, f80 brakes) both get looks but the e46 attracts lots of attention every time I take it out! Driving review I agree with, e46 feels savage, especially with mods but the e92 is more refined, faster and more supercar, engine is a masterpiece. E92 interior and HK superior. E92 is a lifer, I’ve owned from new. Been interesting following your e46 👍🏻
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 😎 Tempted to source a set of F80 brakes for the rear of the e46 but it hasn’t let me down currently 💪
@Big__Ry
@Big__Ry Ай бұрын
Such a great video. I’m 32 and I’m at a point where new cara don’t excite me due to regulations. So I’d rather spend 50k between two cars E92 being one of them. Then buy one new car
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😎👍
@johnthomson3070
@johnthomson3070 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video. I have an e92 m3, but I just love the look of the e46. If I had infinite cash, I'd absolutely have an e46. I'm going to change my e92 in a year. I'll probably get an f80, but if cash wasn't an issue, I'd get a manual e46 also. I just love how the e46 looks. In 20 years, it'll still look beautiful.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks John and glad you enjoyed 😎 I very nearly went F80 M3 instead of the e92 and I still really like the F80 although the S55 engine has really started to show some flaws almost making the S65 look very solid
@snoop2274
@snoop2274 Жыл бұрын
Very good mate enjoyed that… what size spacers do you have on the E46? And are they CM CSL reps? Cheers
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear 👍 12mm spacers all round and yes CM wheels 😎
@mindlos3960
@mindlos3960 8 ай бұрын
Have owned E46 M3 and enjoyed years of driving it. Currently own E92 as well as an F12 M6. E92 wins my heart with that sound. But both cars are great and will be classics.
@bboichirok661
@bboichirok661 Жыл бұрын
I miss my e92 and e46 m3 , now currently have the f80 m3 in my car collection. I can say that my e46 m3 was very reliable and solid , I didn’t have one mechanical issue with it for the couple of years that I’ve owned it. The e92 m3 on the other hand was a love hate relationship, meaning , when it ran right you loved it but when something went wrong you hated it , and things went wrong quite often with that car . The car sounds amazing but didn’t have the torque . I can definitely say it was a gorgeous car with a crazy sound in the high rpms.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
F80 M3 is still a great car to own, reviewed one a few years ago and really enjoyed it (exception of the sound) monstrous amounts of torque compared to the e9x/e46 💪 I think with old M cars you either get a good one or a bad one with how it’s looked after previously, like you my e46 has been very reliable and only had niggles with the e92 (alternator, brake pressure sensor & abs sensor)
@SDG-cv4br
@SDG-cv4br Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my E92 for 4 years with no mechanical issues, though it’s currently having the rod bearings replaced as a precaution, I absolutely love the car. I could never daily it though because it takes so long to come up to temperature. I’m glad you specifically mentioned the gauge clusters in the video because I’m 100% with you. Nice gauge clusters are like nice watches so I’m so disappointed how every manufacturer is going digital. Btw; If you enjoy HK sound sit in one with the enhanced premium audio.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your suffering with the faulty thermostat, really common on these now as sticks open over calling the water taking the engine oil 20+ mins to get to temp. When the temp outside is 5c my car will take 10 mins of gentle driving to reach 85c on the oil (before the thermostat change this would take 20+ mins) part is only £25 and not a big job 👍 You can check your water temp on the hidden menu (should reach 79c) if it’s 60c your stat is done. Like the reference to watches, good call 😎
@petrolhead8851
@petrolhead8851 Жыл бұрын
My e90 takes forever to come up to running temp as well, what I do now is let it warm up till the idle comes down enough, and then start driving it on manual mode gently and shift before 3k rpm’s until it gets to normal running temp
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@petrolhead8851 change the thermostat, best £25 you’ll spend 👍
@petrolhead8851
@petrolhead8851 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive what thermostat did you use?
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
@@petrolhead8851 they have gone up abit looking on line, The genuine BMW one is a MAHLE so you can buy direct from BMW for a premium or eBay if your not fussed for the BMW box 😅 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125704838239?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7UfD4ckvQaG&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=CKFRglVnR7S&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@kemarfong7782
@kemarfong7782 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to own one of those
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 11 ай бұрын
You can’t go wrong with either 😎
@fvresonanator
@fvresonanator Жыл бұрын
Agree in bad traffic manual is a pain, but you won't look back at SMG after having manual
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your comparison. Personally I agree 100%. The e46 is legendary but the e9x chassis is a better daily. Plus I feel it was better engineered. Planning on getting more done to the e92?
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad your enjoyed the video 😎 Yes plenty more to come for the e92 M3 this year, the “plan” is brake upgrade and even swaying towards a set of Recaro Pole positions!
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Recaro seats are wonderful. I learned from their seats why it's best to pony up cash for good quality.
@rwinter26
@rwinter26 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ross 😎
@QasimHussain95
@QasimHussain95 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, on my e46 I have the eventuri intake which isn't as nice as yours but definitely improves the sound and the eissenmann backbox like yourself I'm not the biggest fan of the tinny rasp that they have, however the eissenmann has fantastic results it really deepens the exhaust tone
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, having sampled an Eventuri there good for the money but the CSL is twice as loud and deeper in tone 😎😬
@QasimHussain95
@QasimHussain95 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive yh mine came with my car, my mate has one though and they’re amazing! I think in the future definitely on my list todo
@michaelbyers955
@michaelbyers955 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😎
@charliehustle5312
@charliehustle5312 Жыл бұрын
the throttle response on the E9x M3 is insane. LOVE the E46 M3 though. What a tough choice.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Such a tough choice even I couldn’t make so I’ve had to keep both 😅
@ka130258
@ka130258 10 ай бұрын
I am also fortunate to own an E92 and an E46 however a convertible. E46 for me is the go cart, E92 for longer drives her in Australia, For example I would pick that over the e46 for a 800 klm trip from melb to Sydney. In summary though, my go to most days would be the e46, probably drive it 10 times a month compred to the e92 gets driven once a month. Ive had the e92 since brand new, 2012 build and now just turning 60k klms in the 10 years owned. My daily driver is a CLK 63, and to be fair probably the easiest car to use as a daily; its not demanding in anyway like the daul clutch and SMG transmissions tend to be.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 10 ай бұрын
It’s such a divide reading the comments for the reason some one would prefer one over the other.. pleased to report there’s no wrong option 😬
@chipdiamond2628
@chipdiamond2628 Жыл бұрын
Both great cars.
@pshhyeahh
@pshhyeahh Жыл бұрын
I think you'll like the SCZA exhaust for the E46. I live in the States, and installed CSL headers, the euro cat, and the SCZA mufflers on mine. It sounds fantastic without being too loud and too raspy. All I'm missing is the CSL intake, but I'm focusing on my other car at the moment. Cool video. Both M3s are money.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Watched some KZfaq videos, does sound better that’s for sure 👍 is it worth the cost though especially being in the UK with import tax, probably not as all you can hear is the CSL airbox as the driver in mine 😅
@pshhyeahh
@pshhyeahh Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive I just checked the prices for the SCZA exhaust... it's at least $500 USD more expensive than when I bought it years ago. Yea that's a bummer.
@ES-REDROT
@ES-REDROT 26 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Question. What size spacers are you running on the E46 M3?
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 25 күн бұрын
Thanks and glad you enjoyed 😎 The e46 is on 12mm spacers all round running CM wheels CSL style alloys with stock CSL tyre sizes 👍
@Theteese
@Theteese Жыл бұрын
SIR - U r the only person on KZfaq that clearly explains the SMG...... My mate had his converted to a manual because he listened to the boy racers that think they know everything or should we really say they bought high kms cars on the cheap and couldn't afford the price to fix an SMG..... My mate now wished he never did it ( especially when he's in my M3 ) as if u know how to set the settings and drive with a SMG the gears are quicker than a manual...... Lets not forget you can eat ur fish n chips and have a drink much easier driving with a SMG.....
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 😎 The SMG is part of the e46 M3’s charm and character so no plans to ever manual convert mine even if I need to replace the pump at some stage! Further down the line I do plan to go lightened flywheel and uprated SMG pump to really see what it can do 😈
@lightning5273
@lightning5273 9 ай бұрын
I've never owned an E46, but I own an E36 and E92 currently. I love the raw feel of the E36 that the E92 doesn't have. But other than that I'm happy with my E92.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 9 ай бұрын
I really should complete a review on an e36 M3, keep hearing good things about them
@scottcrudge
@scottcrudge 2 ай бұрын
Sweet review!! If you want to drive a sorted 46m3 manual your more than welcome to come drive mine. All the bits done to is as your one, but no csl airbox. It is supercharged though running 500hp. 😊
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Scott 😎 Sounds awesome, always been interested in trying a super charged e46 M3! Sadly I don’t have trade insurance so would have to pass but if your near Surrey a passenger ride would be awesome 😎
@patrickp.7772
@patrickp.7772 Жыл бұрын
E46 M3 is the Best
@spijo_msa
@spijo_msa 4 ай бұрын
Great video, descriptive.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 4 ай бұрын
Thanks & glad you enjoyed 😎👍
@spijo_msa
@spijo_msa 4 ай бұрын
@@stoneautomotive you forgot the most common fault when it comes to the S65 engine which is the rod bearings.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 4 ай бұрын
@@spijo_msa not forgotten, should have been in there under shells (mentioned not in so many other videos 😅)
@spijo_msa
@spijo_msa 4 ай бұрын
@@stoneautomotive I see 😂 overall I'm well informed with this video as I'm working hard to buy my dream car which is the E92 M3 Competition (same spec as yours) so I just keen on knowing the car thoroughly before I pursue on purchasing it.
@tt-hd6oz
@tt-hd6oz Жыл бұрын
Hey man if you have the smg box you need to put the m5/m6 shifter go look in KZfaq.... is just a nice touch!!!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
I have seen that, very similar to the e92 one but prefer the small home made one I made (personal preference obviously 😅)
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
I personally don't like the majority of aftermarket exhaust systems on the E46 M3. Too many aftermarket exhausts owners choose turn the E46 M3 from a nice, elegant car, to a rice mobile. After visiting Status Gruppe's shop in my hometown of San Diego, CA, they allowed me to listen to their supercharged E46 M3 with their headers and full SCZA exhaust, I was honestly blown away from how good it sounded. Mean and aggressive, but not too "rice-raspy". So I bought their SCZA muffler, and supercharged my E46 M3. Sounds so good! Headers and sec 1 would make it too loud for my taste for a daily/weekend car, but I can always add those in the future if desired. The exhaust sound mixed with the ESS525 superchargers intake design (routes directly to the CSL front bumper hole just like the CSL) and the blow-off valve is just orgasms to the ear!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Sadly your on the other side of the pond for me to experience it, have yet to have heard a good solution although super sprint one I heard in person sounded “ok” but not good enough for the outlay. Bet she sounds grand with the extra boost 😎 how do you find engine bay temps/ heat soak?
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive I’m not a fan of SuperSprint. I think mostly due to its price. Sounds okay, but for the price, it makes the sound seem “worse” if you know what I’m trying to say. It does get hotter. I don’t drive it much. In storage most of the time because I just don’t have time to drive it, but I do plan on getting a Mishimoto upgraded radiator to help cool the engine down and it’s coolant.
@makramaboushakra9536
@makramaboushakra9536 Жыл бұрын
True I trust my e92 for high speeds more than my e46, it just feels steadier and more stable on ups and downs. But the e46 feels a bit lighter and more energetic when you're just driving on low speeds and making fast turns, just gives you the amount of adrenaline you want. The e92 is a bit steadier on turns but decreases the fun. I love both cars really, but I'm selling my e46 now, I don't drive it that much since I bought an e70.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad there are other people that feel the same about the cars, I just need more space, big factor in why the S2000 went so I can see your reason for letting it go
@BiffTannenBTTF
@BiffTannenBTTF Жыл бұрын
20:45 is just magical!!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Never gets old that noise 😎
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel Жыл бұрын
My tip. If you can get one with the individual sound system buy it. Omg it's amazing. It's the best system bmw have ever put in any M3. It kicks out 800 Watts!!
@houlester
@houlester 7 ай бұрын
I don't know if i missed it or not but is your e46 steel blue color? I always loved that color you have.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 7 ай бұрын
It’s called Silver Grey - #A08 paint code 😎
@fredbloggs1472
@fredbloggs1472 Жыл бұрын
Good video comparison. So... Will the E46 make room for the C GT4? That's what enquiring minds want to know.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😎 Haha your not the first to ask that, the GT4 was another level but I think the Exige V6 could still be a contender 👀 GT4 was just beautiful to look at and drive though 🤤
@aggie3344
@aggie3344 Жыл бұрын
Great video both awesome cars if I had to pick one it’ll be the V8❤
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad you enjoyed 😎
@scottjohnson4319
@scottjohnson4319 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if he'll ever dump the DSG on the e46 and get the 6sd manual with the lower ratio rear end like so many of the real CSL owners are doing.
@maxleng4785
@maxleng4785 Жыл бұрын
I think E92 is definitely better for a daily driver, but I personally like the E46, specifically the straight 6 xd
@dalehumphreys4809
@dalehumphreys4809 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid buddy Got a manual e92 myself and I’ve got a set of front f80 m3 discs and callipers for sale if yor interested The callipers have been machined to bolt up to the e92 hub. The discs are low mileage gen bmw items 😎
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dale & glad you enjoyed 😎 Could be interested depending on the price/ machining work completed, ping me some images when you have a chance 👍 stoneautomotive@yahoo.co.uk
@dalehumphreys4809
@dalehumphreys4809 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Ok bud will do. Got the kids later when I finish work for the weekend but will def get some over to you. Just so you know had the original bolt up holes filled in and the new ones centred and drilled then so used the original sleeves and original bolts. Top job to be fair Thanks buddy 👍🏼
@archishmandeka
@archishmandeka Жыл бұрын
Bro my personal favourite is the e46. The sound of the carbon intake just wakes up the monster inside a car enthusiast...
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
It’s certainly an incredible noise 😎
@archishmandeka
@archishmandeka Жыл бұрын
Its unbelievable...
@mrcoupe289
@mrcoupe289 Жыл бұрын
👌 own zcp m3 smg and e92 comp dct + M e36 5spd … sound of e92 ❤ handling of e46, and fun sliding of e36 🎯👌
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Excellent choice of cars 😬 still need to try and e36 M3
@Assimilator1
@Assimilator1 Жыл бұрын
The induction roar on your e92 sounds f***ing awesome! 😁😁 Both lovely cars you have, could never stand the exhaust noise of the e46 though! They sound like they have loose baffles! lol (I'm sure they don't have any btw). You can get aftermarket exhausts for them that don't make that excessive raspy noise, sadly I don't know the make of them, but I have heard them, and they make the straight 6 sound awesome, just like they should! Was never seriously tempted by the e46 M3s myself, great and lovely cars as they are, I just couldn't be arsed to shim the tappets when it comes to it! Lol (or deal with boot floor issues, or rust!). Happy with my (white with black wheels) e92 M3 🙂, which is pretty much standard aside from a modded rear silencer, a short shift gearstick and soon DS2500 brake pads all round for track days (already done the rears). Btw I've seen BMW literature that confirms what the wiki says about the S65 being lighter.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, the Karbonius intake induction roar never gets old 😎 I was sent a link to an e46 M3 fitted with a 4-1 exhaust manifold and straight back pipe work, sounded incredible 😎 thankfully the airbox on the e46 covers up the majority of the stock exhaust rasp lol! Well it’s funny you mention the boot floor, e92 M3 subframes are starting to fail badly from corrosion at this stage 🤦‍♂️ seen more than one video of them cracking from corrosion.. appears lack of under body sealant is to blame. Long live naturally aspirated engines 😅
@Assimilator1
@Assimilator1 Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Lol, straight pipe is rather over kill and anti social! 😉 The e46's I heard weren't that loud but sounded great (with whatever performance exhaust they had). Yea I've seen Evolves video (IIRC) on their hi miler e92 where the subframe was rotten, but that isn't the boot 😛, and although it isn't cheap or quick to replace (if needed), it's a helluva lot easier than welding up a double skinned boot floor! The rear subframe on my M3 has quite widespread surface rust, but it isn't deep. One day I'll take it off and get it sandblasted and powder coated. I SORN it through the winter though, so I'm not too worried atm. Btw, I think you said you're in Surrey? Ditto, fancy swapping a couple of good drive routes? (although not here, don't want everyone to know!, lol).
@davidjd123
@davidjd123 11 ай бұрын
I had the E45 m3 for many years, nothing like it, the throttle response was amazing, Now I have the Nissan GTR R35 the 09. but I always did want that v8 m3 back in the day. Im thinking of selling my GTR for a E92M3
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 11 ай бұрын
It certainly won’t be as powerful as the GTR but still awesome cars 😎
@HD33P1
@HD33P1 5 ай бұрын
You might regret that
@comecorrect8365
@comecorrect8365 10 ай бұрын
I have a Bav sound kit for my e46 def worth it for anyone looking for better audio without a bunch of electrical work.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 10 ай бұрын
I’ve heard good things about that previously 👍
@pgr0104
@pgr0104 7 ай бұрын
This is my dilemma right now. I have a ‘22 X3 m40i but I don’t need the space of an SUV because my daily is a ‘24 Silverado 2500 and the kids car seats go in the truck due to the rear space being so massive, so I don’t really use my X3 much anymore. I am looking to sell it and I am torn between a 6 speed E46 M3 convertible and a 6 speed E93. It will just be a fun weekend toy and be stored in my warehouse when not in use. This video was great and really went over everything. I’m still torn though!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 7 ай бұрын
Good problem to have 😎 Glad you enjoyed the video, you really need to try and drive both to really know what works for you 👍
@darrend2035
@darrend2035 11 ай бұрын
Damn both M3s are beautiful The e46 sounds like a bad ass Motorbike!!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 11 ай бұрын
Thanks mate 😎
@RotrexfezST
@RotrexfezST Жыл бұрын
I love the e46 looks but the interior is dated and engine is great but the v8 is just another level! E92 is more aggressive to look at but e46 is elegant is a way the e92 can’t be Love both! Lucky man to have two very sorted cars!
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Yea the S65 is just a master piece 😎 I don’t mind the e46 interior at all but as it was present when I was into cars I must have the fan boy blinkers on 😅 Wouldn’t say luck as such, hard graft 😬 Still waiting to see the super charged bad boy on the channel 👀
@damianzukowski4398
@damianzukowski4398 Жыл бұрын
I am planning to install Recaro CS seats to my e46, is seat heating function working ? I dont really need it but if its possible to wire it then I will get some heated Recaros. I think E46 its real old school BMW, old BMWs had window switches in the middle around gear knob as E46, E9x not. Build quality, hmm, materials seem to be cheaper on E9x and E46 uses leather, not plastic. Had E92 M3, worth to buy as an investment but to drive .... E46 M3. Handling, similar in my opinion, E9x probably better but engine is big and installed in front of the axle. Thanks
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
The heating function no longer works on mine as the Recaro’s are from a Lotus Evora which didn’t come with heated seats. I have read that you can buy them with the heating pad/ element and will work 👍 mines a summer toy only so thankfully I don’t miss them.
@nickwillobey2205
@nickwillobey2205 11 ай бұрын
Always an E46 for me!😊😊😊
@briggs713
@briggs713 Жыл бұрын
I had both of these cars once upon a time in very similar colors too. This entire video was very nastaligic. Nothing sounds better than a N/A high revving motor. I've had the plesure of owning cars with the s54, s64 , and the s85 motored cars. I just love the noise, but hate the maintinance and reliability issues.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😎 Even the newer M cars are causing headaches, check out the S55 faults on line now 😱
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel Жыл бұрын
I ended up getting evolve straight pipe on my e92 m3.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
I bet that’s loud 😅 The s65 makes such a good noise it’s worth waking it up with some modifications 😎
@sonnydayz1745
@sonnydayz1745 6 ай бұрын
Headers twin stock section 2 and muffler on you’re E46 M3 6SPD Stock air box !,, get a new engine plug (below) headers I guarantee you will discover what the car really born to be. 200k on mine and still feels brand new. My E92 is just aggressive and best down shifts ever 🔥 Never giving up the the E46 S54 is flawless ( WARM the oil, shell gas only 93 and oil changes at 3k miles )
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 6 ай бұрын
I assume you’re from the US? We get the great factory headers in the UK without the catalysts built in so no need to change/upgrade 😬 Stock airbox over a CSL carbon intake 😱😱😱 The downshifts are incredible on the e92 M3 I agree 😎
@williammillard687
@williammillard687 9 ай бұрын
Trying to find a small black knob.....they all seem to be huge..online or in store?
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive 9 ай бұрын
Yea that’s the problem, try searching white knobs and all the small sizes will be available, then you’ll just have to paint it… 😅
@ChrisKeirRacing
@ChrisKeirRacing Жыл бұрын
Owned my e46 m3 for 6 years and now also have an F10 M5, in another league performance wise and is also alot more refined, v8 etc like e90 m3 on steroids. For a B road blast e46 would probably be my first choice.
@stoneautomotive
@stoneautomotive Жыл бұрын
Must try and M5, always hear good things about them (other than as you mention a little to refined for weekend b road blasting)
@ChrisKeirRacing
@ChrisKeirRacing Жыл бұрын
@@stoneautomotive Yeah had, e36 m3 e39 m5, e46 m3 now f10, all good fun!
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