BMW F10/F11 TMS headlight module removal

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Classic Auto Ltd.

2 жыл бұрын

How to remove the TMS module (which controls angel eyes and automatic headlight features) on a BMW F10 or F11 (F30 and others should be similar). This may be necessary if you've had humidity in the headlight and the TMS module has gotten damaged. The symptoms are that the turn signal doesn't work and you get various automatic headlight leveling warnings on the dash.

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@paullombardi3787
@paullombardi3787 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It saved me so much time and the hassle of removing the bumper. my passenger side angel eyes were both out and was going to try to replace both angel eye bulbs when I came across your video. It took about 30 mins mostly b/c the inside T20 screw is in a tough spot. I ended up going out to autozone and buying an set of of allenhead which included the a T20.
@philrenwick5737
@philrenwick5737 Жыл бұрын
It's not always necessary to replace the TMS module with a new one if you are getting error codes. The errors can be caused by moisture in the headlight, so just remove the TMS module, and dry it out, also dry out the area of the headlight that it connects into with a heat gun on low setting, or a hairdryer will do. Put some contact cleaner on the pcb connectors and put it all back together. If your TMS module is ok, all the error codes will be gone, and you are good to go, until you get more moisture/condensation and you have to do it again. Leaving the top headlight cap off can help keep it clear.
@charlottepegrum9465
@charlottepegrum9465 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I am about to attempt this to fix my 'vertical aim failure' error message and also cause my passenger side headlight is constantly flashing/blinking. There has been condensation in the headlight since i bought it a year ago and I'm guessing the water is the reason these issues are happening. Do you think your suggestion might fix my issues? Simply removing the TMS module and drying it out, aswell as the headlight itself?
@DynamicRacing-lm8ry
@DynamicRacing-lm8ry 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 528i and it does the same thing on the driver side. I also took the cap off and every once in a while I will take a air hose to just blow out any dust or anything that may get in there. It’s worked for me for about 9 months . However this is just a temporary fix for the condensation. Definitely inspect your headlight and try to see if there are any fine cracks where moisture is getting in or even the seal around the headlight just get old and needs replaced..
@samedgeley
@samedgeley Жыл бұрын
Great video. As previously stated by other youtubers, Saved loads of time & hassle. I had actually watched several videos before coming across yours where they almost remove the front of the car!! Your video is amazing. Thank you.
@Albokid97
@Albokid97 Жыл бұрын
What was the reason you changed yours?
@samedgeley1619
@samedgeley1619 Жыл бұрын
@@Albokid97 My drivers side angel eyes light failed. At 1st I thought it was a bulb, but I swapped the module from passenger side into drivers side & drivers side then worked. So I just bought a replacement module from Amazon.
@Appydem
@Appydem Жыл бұрын
You saved me a lot of time. I didn't realize the module was removable from there, I was going to drop the entire bumper.
@erictsang6844
@erictsang6844 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video!! You saved me tons of time and effort to take the lining out to replace the TMS. Thank you thank you thank you!!
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
Great video. My 2012 535i was showing left turn, headlight aiming errors and the angel light stopped. This was due to significant moisture in the headlamp due to a crack. Replacing the module solved it. I did need to use the Autel tool to have the car initialize the headlight aiming portion. The module had some water damage showing. For $60 on Amazon, it was best to replace it. The BMW original part is $700. It's definitely easier to remove the wheel to access the panel. Make sure you don't drop the screws.
@bilalzafar823
@bilalzafar823 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video saved me alot of money garage quoted £250 to change the module. With help of your video did it myself in 30 minutes. Thanks
@cristianratiu79
@cristianratiu79 9 ай бұрын
Hi, once replaced them, did you had to recode the new ones?
@SirChiefUK
@SirChiefUK 5 ай бұрын
Glad to find your video as I was thinking the same way without taking off the bumper nor the wheel. My DRL on the right just stopped working and I don’t even have an error on my dashboard. Not sure what happened there but for the peace of mind I’m thinking of replacing the TMS module.
@pascoealan
@pascoealan 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Just replaced. All good!
@miropetric296
@miropetric296 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Is on passenger side the same way to change tms? Thank's
@weasel1991q
@weasel1991q 6 ай бұрын
How you call the part where you insert the module? Because my one contact burn when got water
@marianbarbu4259
@marianbarbu4259 Ай бұрын
I repleace the module after the video but my long way light and normal light not working. Only the angel eye. Any idea ?
@NERD3KGAMING
@NERD3KGAMING Жыл бұрын
Great vid going to try today
@Albokid97
@Albokid97 Жыл бұрын
Can u show how to do the ballast also?
@romualdkieffer9176
@romualdkieffer9176 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.Quiet difficult to get that right screew even with L shaped torque tool.......mine just fell......somewhere in that all and I lost it....don t seem to be able to get it back.....oh well, just going to have to buy another one and try again
@ernestasl.7976
@ernestasl.7976 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my man !
@altanguventurk8100
@altanguventurk8100 8 ай бұрын
Did u have to code the headlights after?
@JustOneKevin
@JustOneKevin Жыл бұрын
hey my angel ayes are working but my xseon light dosnt do you know what is the problem maybe ? does TMS control the xseon ? THANKS!
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
No, I don't think so. My xenons worked fine without the TMS module. It just controls the turning of the headlights, but not their basic light function itself.
@johnt5324
@johnt5324 7 ай бұрын
Not on every model or year! Mine is a 2014 and there is no way you can remove this module without dropping the bumper and removing the headlamp. Im not sure what year hes working on but on a 2014 535i x, impossible.
@constantin9975
@constantin9975 Жыл бұрын
Hello my turn Signal not working and Angel eyes also. There are a lot of TMS in ebay and Amazon but I heard they re not all good for adaptive headlights. Can you please help? I don t know either how to code them…
@ihtishamghumman9187
@ihtishamghumman9187 6 ай бұрын
Same scenario is with me got quoted 440 pounds for tms and 260£ for light repair i said i'll keep driving it like this
@xpert447
@xpert447 Жыл бұрын
What year is that car
@abdelhalimboulassel205
@abdelhalimboulassel205 Жыл бұрын
So when i buy them from the shope do i have to ask for left side and right side or dont metter both fit in ?
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the TMS modules are the same on both sides. Note that if you buy a brand-new one or you get one from a car with a different configuration, you may need to have some coding done (or rather it's a weird PIN-type code that needs to be set) and/or the module may need to be electronically initialized. I don't have specific info on how to do that, but I'm sure the info is out there.
@osvaldaskupstas5075
@osvaldaskupstas5075 2 ай бұрын
Oh nice i by try that on gt 5 i hope its by works to my
@dens2787
@dens2787 Жыл бұрын
Hello, first of all I want to say that I know I am dumb that I waited for this to happen. But I want to ask you, maybe you know what can be the problem for me: I have a big condensation problem on the driver's side headlight. First my angels started to turn off on that side, then after some weeks, my PASSENGER led light started to turn off and changed color from white to yellowish. After that- DRIVER side turn signal stopped working. At the moment everything looks like this: Drivers side headlight (with condensation) working only LED (yellowish, not white) light for a minute, then turns off (Angels and turn signal isn't working at all). Passenger headlight (With no condensation) Angels are working, Turn signal is working, LED light (Also yellowish) turns on for a minute, and turns off at the same time like a DRIVERS side LED. I wanted to ask, is it possible that the problem will be only in TMS, or could the problem be deeper, for example in the wires? Thanks a lot!
@4happydaze
@4happydaze Жыл бұрын
Did you figure out the problem, have having a similar issue??
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
Not sure, but I'd definitely start with the TMS module because it's easy to change and relatively cheap. I'd say with almost 100% certainty that the turn signal and angel eyes on your driver's side not working are caused by a bad TMS module that corroded due to the moisture. The problem with the LED lights could also be related, but it kind of sounds like an issue with power supply or something in your light module (FRM) which is NOT inside the headlights.
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
I had the same turn and angel problem. This solved it.. MOTOKU TMS Control Module Driver Unit Adaptive Headlight for BMW 5 Series F18 F10 F11 F07 You dont need to remove the headlight. My garage charged me $30 to remove it. You'll need the autel tool to initialize the headlight aiming but that takes 5 minutes.
@Jamestsinger
@Jamestsinger Жыл бұрын
Having an incredibly hard time getting the right T20 screw out with the L shaped tool. Any tips?
@MartinMaat
@MartinMaat Жыл бұрын
I managed to do it today. First tried it with an allen key. It didn't quite fit in but I could get some torque when trying on the screw I got out. The smaller allen key would not grip at all. It didn't work. Perhaps with imperial sizes you will have better luck with allen keys. Anyway, I did have a fitting T20 Torx bit. I tried it with pliers but this also failed. I went to the hardware store and bought a set of angled Torx wrenches for 20 Euros. They also came in single pieces but I did not know the size when I was there so I overspent a bit. It's a nice set though 😊. If you know you need T20 you won't need a whole 9-piece set. With this I did get a good grip. Then I dropped the key in the bumper 😩. This turned out to be not so bad, after taking 3 screws out I could pull back some plastic and get my key back. Once you have it loose you will do better with a small straight flat-headed screw driver. It was still fitted pretty tight but with a bit of force I could get the card loose and I could take it out like demonstrated in the video. Getting it back in is harder, I ended up filing off a corner of the plastic hood and a bit of circuit board which made it a lot easier. The contacts on the board looked pretty bad, lots of green copper residue. I carefully cleaned them with fine sand paper and it started to look promising. One contact in the middle somewhere was a bit damaged but it did not look like it was interrupted. I pushed it back in and unfortunately got no change in behavior (still no left turning signal from the headlight). I made a picture of the serial number: BMW 7269494 LEAR 532385808. Looked online, found it on a site called xeonplanet for $149.95 and ordered it. I am now waiting for it to arrive. About half a year ago the BMW dealer wanted to fix my problem for 1536 Euro by replacing the entire headlight. I declined. This is a bit of a gamble but considering the alternative a bet I am willing to take.
@MartinMaat
@MartinMaat Жыл бұрын
I got my part and installed it... The main problem is fixed (failing front turn light), which should be enough to get the car approved again for another year. But the angle eyes still don't work and I still get messages about this and the turning feature not working. Possibly the corrosion also affected the contacts in the slot and I just got lucky with the turning lights. I may give it a wiggle later and make a close-up photo with my phone. But better first have it approved before it starts acting up again.
@romualdkieffer9176
@romualdkieffer9176 3 ай бұрын
@@MartinMaat Hi Martin, I have pretty much same experience as you, just dropped the T20 in the bumper......do you recall which are the 3 screws that you remove the get the key back?thanks
@MartinMaat
@MartinMaat 3 ай бұрын
@@romualdkieffer9176 I don't remember but they would have to be the screws you need to get out to take off the bumber. Then you can pull it away locally just enough to make an opening. To complete the story, it turned out the socket was rotten as well and this is integrated in the housing so I needed a housing replacement after all. Fortunately the dealer had one lying around and fixed it for me for 600 Euros which was bad enough but still a whole lot cheaper than new. It turned out I didn't need any "coding", once the parts were replaced (using the new card I ordered online) everything just worked properly again. I haven't had any problems since and the lens stays dry. I believe the dealer did have to calibrate the turning mechanism, I'm not sure. I used my phone to make a picture of the socket and found the outer contacts were just gone. If yours are still there you may be able to fix it with a bit of sandpaper.
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
A garage will do it in 15 in minutes. Go for a coffee and it will be done when you come back. Some repair headaches with the T20 allen key are not worth it. My garage charged me $30 and reset it with the Autel tool for free - necessary for the adaptive headlight stuff.
@jacberg9256
@jacberg9256 11 ай бұрын
Does not work on facelifted f10.
@albania2664
@albania2664 10 ай бұрын
Where do ypu buy The new tms modul and do i have to code it after putting it in!!!
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd 10 ай бұрын
If you buy a used one from a car with the same type of headlights as yours (AHL, xenon, etc.) then you don't need to code it. If you buy a new one or one from a car with a different configuration then you do need to code it (but I haven't gone through that so I can't give you advice there). There are lots of Chinese replica versions for sale on ebay and other such places, but I decided to go for a used OEM one because you can't really be sure about the quality of those replicas. You can always buy a new original one from your local BMW dealer, of course... but it's unnecessarily expensive.
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
I bought mine on Amazon for $60. MOTOKU TMS Control Module Driver Unit Adaptive Headlight for BMW 5 Series F18 F10 F11 F07
@albania2664
@albania2664 3 ай бұрын
@@ClassicAutoLtd Thx for The answer.. i Bought one on eBay from china and it cost me 60-70 dollars and it Works fine now 🫡
@narithlot
@narithlot Жыл бұрын
Does the new module have to be programmed? The angel eyes on the driver side is out
@kiddcloud
@kiddcloud 8 ай бұрын
Same here. I ordered module. Did you resolve your problem?
@narithlot
@narithlot 8 ай бұрын
@@kiddcloud i havent had the time to do it, tell me how it goes
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
Not for the angel eyes or turn signal, but yes for adaptive headlight aiming. It's not programming. The Autel tool just registers the unit to the car for you and it works in 5 minutes.
@MrLaloman18
@MrLaloman18 Жыл бұрын
There's an F10 model that doesn't have that easy open module door inside the tire wall as in this vid. and it becomes a MUST to remove the bumper!
@mikeeli2286
@mikeeli2286 6 ай бұрын
If you don’t have the opening all you have to do is remove the wheel and wheel well splash guard. There’s absolutely no need to remove the entire bumper for this
@MrLaloman18
@MrLaloman18 5 ай бұрын
@@mikeeli2286 You are correct! Missed that one and it's an easier way than a whole bumper removal!
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
Not true. My 2012 535i needed the TMS. The garage removed the wheel as it saves time and removed the cover and module in 15 minutes. You need the Autel tool to reinitialize it. This worked: MOTOKU TMS Control Module Driver Unit Adaptive Headlight for BMW 5 Series F18 F10 F11 F07
@P4RVEZ02
@P4RVEZ02 Жыл бұрын
Is this the passenger side your replacing
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
Driver's side (LHD car).
@imaged-
@imaged- Жыл бұрын
do you need to program car after this?
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
In my case I didn't have to do anything but I've heard that if you buy a brand-new module from BMW, you need to have it initialized. In addition, there's a code that may need to be set on the module to work with your car's specific configuration. I guess I lucked out and the used module that I put in came from a car with the same configuration as mine. Everything is working fine for me.
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
yes - you have to use an Autel/other to reinitilize the headlight aiming. The turn and angel likes dont need it though. It takes 5 minutes with the tool. Become friends with a garage mechanic. they will do it for free.
@judsonstevens5504
@judsonstevens5504 Жыл бұрын
How do you determine if the module is bad?
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
The usual symptoms are a non-working turn signal and automatic lights; also, the angel eyes tend to have a weird behavior such as being dimmed during the day and/or staying on after locking the car for some time. If you had moisture in the headlight, a bad TMS module is likely.
@judsonstevens5504
@judsonstevens5504 Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicAutoLtd …That’s exactly what my granddaughter’s Bimmer is doing. Since it most likely water intrusion she going to have the headlight assembly replaced. Thanks for your response.
@ClassicAutoLtd
@ClassicAutoLtd Жыл бұрын
@@judsonstevens5504 In my case I just had the headlight re-sealed (to fix the moisture problem) by a local company that deals with headlights. No need to replace it, they're expensive!
@judsonstevens5504
@judsonstevens5504 Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicAutoLtd …I would do the same if my Granddaughter lived near me.
@braydenwilson4514
@braydenwilson4514 Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicAutoLtd how much was it to get it sealed?
@christiancode3565
@christiancode3565 3 ай бұрын
that screw is such a pain even using the T20 alan key, I still had to remove the headlight
@gutnick
@gutnick 3 ай бұрын
My garage took out the module in 15 minutes and only charged $30. Well worth it..... They also reset it with the Autel tool
@chillouterPL
@chillouterPL Ай бұрын
easy as F… piece of cake 😂
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