Thanks saved me of watching the whole video. Still a great video with very detailed spec comparison.

Well said! I do think that the Adventure may be significantly more versatile because of the fuel tank think. Wind protection may differ market to market though. Except for the deflectors which are for sure a great addition to the Adventure. Likely also the larger fuel tank contributes to more protection too. Thanks for sharing!

Greetings from Spain. I also own a f850 GS Adv. Kalamata. The use that I give it is exclusive for the road. I totally agree. In addition to the capacity of the gasoline tank, which offers more autonomy, it also offers protection that the 850 GS does not. I took the motorcycle from the dealership on January 7, ´21, with a temperature of 4ºC. My motorcycle clothing was a Reevit jacket, a helmet and some jeans. And I did not have cold legs due to the protection of the tank. What I did was put another windshiell on it for greater protection on the helmet and upper body for speeds greater than 100 km / h.

Cant you put the same wind protection in the simple gs?

Light winters sound especially exciting to me. I'm not kidding. One and the same continent and such differences. Here there are basically 6 months of winter. About the Super Tenere, well, I've tried that and even though it seemed fine, the number one thing I remember is that my knees were getting hurt after sliding forward and pressing them against parts of the fairings. But I still wonder why Yamaha decided to discontinue it. Anyway, I'm glad that you're happy with your F850GS and good luck with it!

@@VToldsMotoShow Spent 30K Kms in the Super Tenere saddle and never had issues with the fairing (what fairing? ) and it's been the most comfortable bike i've ever had... Even more than my BMW RT after 5 hour rides. Still the more I ride the 850 the more I love it.

Interesting, I wonder what could impact the heat. Were they the same models or the same model years of a GS?

@@VToldsMotoShow the fairings! Adv versions both 850 and 1250 they make fairing to not come wind to legs, which is good in the winter but terrible in the summer. Both were 2019

Yeah, the value for money factor is often out there - right. I guess that we all have our definition of it to stick to out there. That's why BMW offers the 750 and 850 and they keep them in the lineup - it means that there are many of us who look at it like you. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks!

I'm glad you liked it!

I'm glad you found the video useful and thanks for sharing, I appreciate it.

Honestly saying, I truly enjoyed the 800/800 Adventure. The 850 was fine but I believe that the suspension may not necessarily be better. I was feeling crazily excited when on the previous generation, so the 800. Now after riding the 850 it was fine, but I wouldn't wait in excitement to ride it again.

I'm glad you liked the video. Wind protection isn't great nor bad. There are not noticeable turbulences which is good but I'd say forget any significant protection in the shoulders and legs area. Head is fine but I myself would replace the windshield with a taller, aftermarket one anyway, even riding mostly in the city, to gain more flexibility with it. Since there are so many aftermarket options, there likely is something for everyone on F850GS/GSA.

1250 GSA 268 KG

@@TakToJsmeMy but I meant F850GSA which weighs almost as much as standard R1250GS (1kg difference) and is far less powerful…

@@molward I understood that, but if I did, I would compare the standard version and the adventure version separately .. Well, of course, it's clear that the performance is completely elsewhere ..

@@TakToJsmeMy the point I wanted to make is that 248kg for middle class adventure bike is way too much considering that a standard bigger brother is about the same weight. I didn’t want to compare GS vs. GSA as the whole film is about it.

I agree - normally manufacturers do work on different suspension setup at least. Heck, BMW does that with R1250GS series but somehow here they've done nothing really significant. Maybe the next generation will introduce some more changes like other manufacturers have in this segment with their models.

Yup, for long trips that can be an advantage.

Thanks, I love them too. I'm glad that you enjoy the information in the videos. Some of them are really interesting and not many people know them.

@@VToldsMotoShow thanks dear

You're welcome!

thanks, I'm happy that you liked the video and yes, I saw a guy who has done that fuel trick on an Africa Twin right here at this specific time frame - just click the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLxypcek05i5m2Q.html

But does it? I don't think so.

@@VToldsMotoShow if you really want to know. Phone BMW technical helpline. I have just got F850GS Sport 2021 model

I heard that adventure is stiffer in front

Thanks and I'm happy that you like the video. I wouldn't care where the engine is from or where it is assembled. iPhone is also made in China just like so many other low and high tech stuff. Don't worry about that. It only matters how it rides and if it suits your style.

@@VToldsMotoShow thank you

That's an interesting opinion. I've got to say that if I had the 800, I'd also not be looking at the 850. Especially if you've got the "more legendary" Adventure in the name of it. If I'm right about the suspension's feeling of comfort in the 800 vs 850, I'd consider the 800 a much more appealing motorcycle if you've got one. I'd have to ride them both one right after the other to be 100% sure about the difference in favor of 800 being that big, but nonetheless I'm convinced that I enjoyed it more. And that's not a pattern with BMW as for example I like the newer S1000XR more than the previous one, and the same applies to R1200GS and R1250GS. I enjoy the 1250 more. This makes me believe that the 800 really grabbed my heart easier than the current 850. All the best with your GS!

@@VToldsMotoShow definitely a downgrade the 850 over the 800. More weight. Less suspension travel. The extra 9hp probably doesn't even make up for the extra 15kgs and a smaller fuel tank. Some say the 800 is smoother in the lower rpm range. I know it gets real buzzy 5k>

Now that's an interesting setup then!

Why confusing? Some data provided by BMW is confusing yet knowing that may make you pay attention to thet and investigate further if you care about those things. Other than that, it was supposed to be rather listing and explaining the differences, so sorry if there was too much complaining about BMW and their inconsistence in providing official information :)

Right, perhaps the largest influence is there in the size of their engines and weight of additional equipment.

Wait, when?!