2022 BMW F850GS Adventure | Can it Still Compete? Let's Find Out.

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In-depth review of the 2021 BMW F850GS Adventure. It's heavy and underpowered compared to it's competitors, and also priced at the very high end. So why would you buy this in 2022? Let's find out the whole story.
00:00 Intro
02:33 Specs Models Pricing
06:39 Tour
11:21 0-100 MPH Accel
11:44 Highway Test
18:12 Drop Test
19:58 Off Road Test
25:23 Competitors
30:47 Love/Hate
32:43 Final Thoughts
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@thepolishcannon 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this review! I have a 2019 F850GS that I was able to get for a steal of a deal and pretty much fully kitted out. I agree, it isn't the most powerful and won't win races, but it is so easy to ride. I feel that the F850 is built for someone who wants to enjoy the adventure, where the more powerful options are for people who want to see how fast they can complete the adventure. The guys I have ridden with always seem to race to see how fast they can get through the trail. To me it defeats the point of adv riding if you are going too fast to soak in the scenery.

@GH-ss7sn 2 жыл бұрын

Loving your comment about what adv riding is all about. Enjoy your adventures as I do, Kevin.

@CharlesLindsay1 2 жыл бұрын

You're right that easy-to-ride is important! Predictable handling helps new riders build confidence. That and a smooth throttle. I like your idea about taking time to enjoy the scenery, and I also see there's also a time and a place for a bit of competition with your buddies, too. Adv riding is a big tent, and there are lots of ways to enjoy it. For me, the adventure includes view-stops.

@davereinhart9933 2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlesLindsay1 I agree as well. I own a 850GSA and love it. It gives me all that I need and a lot more off road, has all the power I need anywhere and has the tremendous build quality of a BMW. No need to race. Adventure is about enjoying the ride and not racing.

@MauserKAR98a 2 жыл бұрын

What range are you getting on your f850gs

@thomas_swede 2 жыл бұрын

@@MauserKAR98a depends on speed and driving style. Highway speed 110 km/h over 310 km,. If range is more important than the speed I think, easy on the throttle, you can go much longer. I have an f850gs, 2018.

@Coldgecko Жыл бұрын

I took my 2019 F850GSA from Miami to Bangkok, Thailand -- through 17 countries including, Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos all around Europe, Canada and USA. No question it is amazing on on and off road challenges. I took a 2018 R1200GSA from top to bottom of South America through every dirt road in the andes -- I wish I had the F850GSA instead. F850GSA is 85% of the comfort of a R1200/R1250 but is so much better balanced and lighter and bigger wheels for world travel.

@northerniltree 6 ай бұрын

This information is all I need to know.

@ericHi5 Ай бұрын

@coldeecko what are your thoughts on the new 900 gs? You are the guy I’d pay to ask questions.

@BernardAnderson Жыл бұрын

I think Big Rock Moto sets a hell of a standard for reviews! Many thanks.

@NitroMike87 2 жыл бұрын

I own a 21 GSA, rode it for 15000kms now. I go offroad with it, rode parts of the TET in europe fully loaded. Dropped it many times. I love it, it does anything you want it to do and doesnt break. No regrets

@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын

your bike is the 850 like this one? The tet sounds like a cool trip.

@bh.76 2 жыл бұрын

Massively underrated bike, and great for taller riders.

@mikemerrill175 2 жыл бұрын

Based on my experience with my 1250 GS & watching your reviews, I have become convinced that anything much beyond a moderately rough jeep track is best handled by a 350-500 dual sport. Wish I’d reached that conclusion before beating the crap out of my once shiny triple black.

@Liberty4Ever 2 жыл бұрын

I want an ADV bike that's a luxury dual sport - a dual sport thumper with better road manners and a large fuel tank. The industry still doesn't quite get that. I have the G310GS and it's the best bike for my needs and wants (very little highway), but I still wish it had a 5-6 gallon fuel tank instead of 2.9 gallons. It'll be interesting to see what the new Honda TransAlp will be. I'm hoping 500-700 cc and a large fuel tank. I'd love it if it was a simpler version of the Africa Twin, an Africa Single, but I'd bet it'll be a 700+ cc twin to compete with the Tenere 700.

@KuopioKallavesi 2 жыл бұрын

@@Liberty4Ever install a bigger tank? one can modify bikes.. thats how u create a perfect bike for yourself...you modify it :D

@Liberty4Ever 2 жыл бұрын

@@KuopioKallavesi -It's not a DR650. The tank is very integrated. BMW didn't make it easy

@matriximaster 2 жыл бұрын

600 Lbs. is not for off road. Dirt road sure, but not adventuring.

@richardraz6401 Жыл бұрын

I have 'just' the 850 GS, 2019, and am well north of 70 years old. Your review was excellent, re the GS. I would add to those thinking of 'just' the GS: it is comfort feature-rich. It has an excellent elec-cruise control. The riding modes are terrific: dynamic is dramatic, and rain is safe especially for older, reduced reaction time folks. I upgraded to a 'flat' (mostly) Sergeant seat and a Madstad adjustable windscreen both of which has greatly increased comfort for long trips. I travel mainly old 2-lane roads doing 50 mph but also Interstates where I can more than keep up with traffic. Doing the former I can get 60+mpg and 250 miles out of the still too small 4 gal tank. [Hey, BMW, there are probably scooters out there with 4 gal tanks! Your bikes should at least have a shot at reach Poland before they need gas, twice!] Doing the big highways, especially with gear aboard, fuel economy plummets to the low 40s mpg and the range to way less than 200 miles. The tank size is its principal downside to me, and why I carry a small fuel bottle so I'm braver in using all of its 4 gallons. I find the bike balances well, especially for as tall as it is. Yes it's a 'heave' to get on (and off), but it makes for more leg room for longer rides; I also installed highway pegs on the forward down-bar of the engine guards (Touratech) for even more trip comfort. I have done, but would not recommend, an 800 mile ride day, once when it was necessary to make tracks. The bike has a great display with built in GPS and tire pressure monitor which was very handy, and an important safety feature, as I had a rear tire puncture at speed from a roofing screw (yeah...thanks Mississippi, but super nice people that stopped to help...thanks particularly to Wayne wherever you are); and, very gratefully, has tubeless tires AND wire wheels, so a plug got me home. 3 level heated grips. It's a great travel machine. But, if you're primarily a dirt person, I wouldn't recommend either the GS or the GSA. Charlie Sinewan, who's like circumnavigated the universe eleven times, went 'up' from the older 800 after (several universes of travel) to the 850, extolled its virtues and modernity, but then ultimately went back 'down' to the 800 because he is deep down a man of dirt, deep mud actually, creeks, rivers. If that's you, I don't think you'd be happy with any version of the 850s or 1250s. But then there's Charlie & Ewan...and they did it on theirs: 4 continents worth; they're not Charlie Sinewan (who's invented name "Sinewan" seems to mean in Spanish "Not Ewan," so a little humor there, but it suggests why he's left the big Beamer fold).

@davidreinhart4553 2 жыл бұрын

I love my F 850 GSA. My last adv bike was a R 1200 GS. I wanted something with as much comfort on the road and more ridable off-road. The F 850 GSA nailed it for me.

@NiklasAdv 2 жыл бұрын

same its just amazing actually. not many speak of this model and bike, i guess from specs it doesnt sound that good in comparison to others but man, its a perfect mix for various riding and thats what adv riding is about.

@JuergenJakob-zr2vs Жыл бұрын

Hello from good old Germany, great reviews you do on motorcycles, thank you! A side note to the weight, may be i get that wrong but will see: i understand that the 850GSA is heavier than its competition. However, it comes with engine protection, luggage racks, central stand which in my experience count already for roughly 15-20kg (33-44lbs). If i add those three items to the competition the weight difference is bascically gone Also, taking about the 1250GS: if i add those items to it there is a significant weight difference all of the sudden. You may argue about the need of engine bars, central stand and luggage rack, however, basically 95% of the bikes will get those parts. Would you agree?

@ama9401 10 ай бұрын

Old but not good anymore

@JuergenJakob-zr2vs 10 ай бұрын

@@ama9401 yes, agree. just wanted to point out that the weight is not the real differentiator with the competition.

@jcc6664 2 жыл бұрын

A review by someone who knows what he is talking about. Thank you. I have a GSA and must be a wimp as I don't find it underpowered. It is heavy but love the look and quality and handling.

@beborodner930 2 жыл бұрын

Been looking forward to this review.. Love your intelligent, useful, and entertaining take on all your reviews! Also thank you for showing the contact points on the drop test, Love to see that. As a tiger 800xc owner.. I had to learn the hard way on how expensive it is when you reply on the factory crash protection.

@DasMoose9001 Жыл бұрын

Ian, You literally made a financially impacting impression on me here. I truly love the 1250 GSA but this is much more appropriate for me, and I really never knew it....sales staff near me tend to push you towards the 1250. Thanks for this, I really appreciate it.

@boanergesza11 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your in depth review of this motorcycle. I had many options to choose from (Norden 901, KTM 790/890,1050' triump Tigers etc etc) I watched all your reviews and considered all the points and went for a 2019 F850 GS adventure Rallye with 12000km on it. Very happy with my purchase, and even though it's heavy, once it's moving the weight seems to disappear. So controlable and effortless on road or off. Keep at it, love your content!

@srvmotoman Жыл бұрын

I have seen several of your in-depth reviews. You are top notch and very informative....and no bs with your reviews. Cheers!

@Scarletsb0y 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this review, I've owned the F850 for 2 years now and totally agree with your comments. The reason I got this bike was my first large engine after passing my motorbike test here in the UK. I wanted a larger-engined bike as I was travelling 60 miles a day on freeways but as mentioned I wanted the smooth bike to carry on learning on how to ride a motorbike. Things that helped me chose this bike was the build quality, warranty and finish of the bike. I agree that is its a very heavy bike but once moving I don't notice the weight at all. Your spot on regarding the soft front forks, these should have been electronic just like the back but you do get used to the dive of them when stopping but I've never had any concern when having to do a hard stop which I've had to do a couple of times due to other road users. I did look at the 1250 GSA but comparing the 2 bikes the price difference here in the UK is about £4000 to have the same spec bike and the service is around £80 cheaper than the 1250 and insurance is also cheaper. I'm still glad that I got this bike over other mid-engine sized bikes and now I have a couple of years of riding a larger-engined bike I will be looking at the 1250 GSA or 1290 KTM next year. Great review which I think is an honest review and I think this bike is worth the money and getting compared to the other bikes in this engine size

@manosajax 2 жыл бұрын

I am in exactly the same position, coming up from a Honda CB500X 2019. I have just paid a deposit for this bike. I do around 100miles on the motorway for work, so wind protection is really important to me, and that’s one of the main reasons I picked this bike.

@ray8328 2 жыл бұрын

I have the standard F850GS for the least three years and I do not regret it. I did add an MRA screen to get some extra protection on the motorway (highway) and I would recommend this brand. I commute and the MPG (UK) on this bike is excellent 62-69 (4.5 - 4.1 l/100km), which is important when you are a daily commuter. When I compare the service costs to the 1200/1250 GS at the dealer, this bike is cheaper to run.

@oliviergrongnet4736 Жыл бұрын

You can install the cartridge Touratech on your fork. You will not recognize your bike with.

@ronanrogers4127 10 ай бұрын

I recommend the 1290, it’s a phenomenal bike. I rode it from Germany across Russia and back. Lots of off-road, Moto camping. It’s a brilliant bike, but unfortunately ugly IMO

@eigenaar0191 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent review, Ian. I've owned this bike for two years now, and I would say you are spot on with your review. What I can add is that is has been totally reliable for well over 20.000km now. Nothing has broken or failed, no oil use or leaks of any kind or anything else. I think if you look around, at least here in Europe, you can get an 850 gsa with hardly any km's, almost new for a very good price. The bike is indeed the most comfortable out of all the bikes I have owned for the long tours I like, and it is surprisingly stable and fun off-road. I come from a 2018 1200GSA, and this handles much better off-road. Standing position is excellent, even for me at 6ft3". I agree about the front fork, you should get this out of the factory with at least an adjustable suspension. I am thinking long and hard about upgrading the front fork to the Tractive suspension, also sold by Touratech under their own name. What I read about is, is that it totally transforms the bike. The dynamic ESA in the back is great. Also the fuel economy is excellent on this bike. So I agree with you: it is a pretty strange bike, too heavy, not incredibly powerfull, average front suspension. But somehow, I really like this bike. When I get off the bike after a long days riding, I don't feel tired. It is great fun to ride in spite of its weight, because it just handles so well and secure. It has the power I need, and it doesn't break down. You can also carry a ton of luggage on it, and it still handles well. Greetings from Europe, keep up the great work. I think your reviews are among the very best out there!

@ray8328 2 жыл бұрын

I have the standard GS for 3 years and I agree 100% with your comments. 100% reliable, no oil use, great fuel economy and very comfortable.

@terryboyle 2 жыл бұрын

really impressed by how well thought out the crash bars are, after market manufacturers for other brands of bikes take note - especially for the heavier bikes.

@petezny4343 2 жыл бұрын

As always an excellent thoughtful review from Big Rock Moto. I have 2k miles on my big bumble bee 2021 F850GSA and think Ian's review is right on the money. It's VERY good on the road. It's pretty good on the dirt. I bought the BMW in the end over the Tenere 700 and the KTM 890 for the touring credentials. At times it's going to wear 80/20 tires and go cross country. Other times, like this summer, it's going to wear TKC80's and do some BDRs. When I solo really difficult sections of the BDRs I'll just use my KLX300. On weight I off road closer to 500 lbs. I stripped off the side and rear racks to save 15 lbs. I'll go with rackless soft luggage to stay light. And living in the north east I will rarely need to go off road with six gallons of fuel so it's easy to save another 20 lbs there (you can probably tackle the entire NEBDR with the range the 2 gallons on the KLX gives you). Drop the enormous CAT and you're under 500. The only nit I'll pick on Ian's review is his price comparison to the R1250GS. A base R1250GS does start at $18000 but it is a stripped road bike. Start down the options list to make it comparable to the fully optioned F85GSA and its suddenly a $24,000 bike. Jump to the R1250GSA with the same options packages and you're at $27,000. Compare that to $17,500 for the fully optioned F850GSA.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Great points on the price. Huge difference

@dcxplant Жыл бұрын

Huge price difference "as tested". Do you get $10 grand more motorcycle on a G/S? I would never buy a GS Adventure; Much too massive. The big GS Adventures have become over-the-top massive. IMO, it seems likely BMW may back off on the mass on the next generation GSA, but I am ready to buy this year, or into spring of 23. As long as passing power is adequate, I'm happy. I've had a previous generation GS and loved it, however, when it comes down to it, I don't really need over 100hp. What I need is a tour capable bike that can do dirt roads and fair condition double-track. Looking at this and the Africa Twin as top runners.

@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын

I think that color combination you have is the best looking version they've ever put on the GSA.

@0HARE Жыл бұрын

With your thorough review, and all the discussion in the comments, I’m still sold on this bike. After considering all the advantages & disadvantages, I’ve come to the conclusion that this is the right bike for me. Currently saving up to purchase one…

@oldtimer3824 2 жыл бұрын

The F850 GSA fills the ADV touring machine niche, it’s the old man’s adventure machine when freeway wind protection is paramount and hp doesn’t matter. That old man ADV rider, remembers the 1970s when a 100 hp motorcycle was an insane superbike and a 60 hp machine was considered fast - 90 hp is plenty with declining eyesight and reduced reaction time that occurs with aging. Nothing wears down an older rider more than hours of buffeting freeway blast getting to the easy dirt road or twisties. 538 pounds weight isn’t bad given 6 gallons of fuel, rear rack luggage system and crash bars. Take a standard 1250GS add a gallon of extra fuel, and crash bars and now you’re at 563. If you’ve also got side cases, the F850 GSA will be under 600 pounds and the full size adventure bikes will be over 600 pounds.

@Stevemax07 2 жыл бұрын

I put 13k miles on my 850GSA before trading on a 1250GSA. You gave this bike the most honest review and opinion I've ever seen. For me, the 850GSA was great for my commute. I just wanted an R1250GSA.

@pedrovazquez9146 2 жыл бұрын

Great production quality, like the new background music.

@mikebentley3526 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, I love my 850gs standard. It is super comfortable and has enough power for me. Keep the good work!

@iridemotorbikes 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Ian, keep up the awesome work!😎👍🏼👍🏼

@joaquinlopezperlwitz9015 2 жыл бұрын

Great review ma! And also excellent quality video!! Congrats!

@stephenrice9497 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this review, currently looking for a “smaller” adventure bike and found this very useful.

@hangingnutsjimmy88 2 жыл бұрын

hit that t7 bro

@thejohnnerparty 2 жыл бұрын

This is a really good review - lots of perspective. Everything we get here is from a professional with tons of experience. This is just too valuable to ignore. A big thumbs up.

@rodrigomrp3004 2 жыл бұрын

As always, great and honest review with lots of valuable info. Please, when will you review the Aprilia Tuareg 660 comparing it to other midsize adventure bikes?? Many thanks Ian.

@RaceBreakRepeat Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, great video with some nice insight into the feel differences in the models. Sub’d

@marcelisujecki4707 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! Spot on in all the points about the bike. I owe a 2019 Bmw 850gsa with 1600 miles and I love it! The biggest reason I got it instead of the regular 1250 is the bigger tank! Commuting on a freeway I can get more than 200 miles per fill ups than less than 150 with a small tank ! Almost $10k more to go on a 1250 gsa! It fit my needs for now until I get my my big 1250gsa!

@thaumaturgeishere331 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. Well done!

@HiruthikSwamy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for giving a lot of information man.

@jsanchex5 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great objective in depth review!!

@mototurkey5289 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! Thank you!

@Kentucky_Blue Жыл бұрын

What an outstanding review and discussion points. Subbed!

@roanwestraat9604 Жыл бұрын

This is a great review, thank you.

@MRGS48 2 жыл бұрын

Yaaay second🤣🤣 Was waiting for this video Ian !!

@stylesbitchly9931 2 жыл бұрын

Great review sir! You didn’t even have to say it was slower than the competition. I noticed it while you were ringing the throttle and it was struggling to gain speed.

@ignaciobeatrisini9032 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!!! Monday morming, amazing video... drinking a couple Mates... very good week start. Regards from Argentina!

@dildan1038 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this, enjoyed watching your review and gave you a like, especially for not editing out 24:35, kudos. Cheers.

@brianwaters8269 Жыл бұрын

Worth saying this bike review is an excellent piece, great format and structure good detail and clear balanced opinion. Of course I now need to watch the Africa Twin review...

@stephenscott6570 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this review. My second watching. To assure myself I made the right purchase. I’m just back into MC after 30 years. I am not a power junky. So has all power I want and after first 175 miles, half on BLM dirt roads, it is working well.

@dcxplant Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for including not only the maintenance schedule, but ease of service in you reviews. MPG/Range would be very nice to see as a standard feature of reviews. the GS final drive now requires as much maintenance as a chain, perhaps more. A chain with an automatic oiler after an initial stretch-in, can go 20k with merely a quick adjustment vs the GS who's final drive has to be cracked open and greased. A dicey operation if the person performing the service in the field is not meticulous about cleanliness. Great content, thank you.

@jsmith2132 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review! Please keep up your good work.

@rjeepster8640 11 ай бұрын

Really appreciate the mph per Rpm! Makes a huge difference when taking longer rides and we need that info. Great job!

@walterzikalala 2 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@HDvroom10 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review👏🏼👍

@laurentmoreau3115 2 жыл бұрын

Nice in depth review, as usual, thank you. Appreciate the price discussion. A few inch/centimeters conversions where missed. How effective is that air fin hidden at the top of the fork? I'd be interested in a few more comparisons with competition: fuel consumtion (let's say on high ways), grip heaters effieciency, motor sound.

@joshnnik 2 жыл бұрын

A very comprehensive review. My dealer persuaded me to try one as he thought I would like it, I didn’t, end of. I’m far happier with my F900XR as it satisfies my needs perfectly.

@wardroland270 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@dougzink3148 Жыл бұрын

Having been an owner for 2.5 years, this review is right on target. I would also add that the MPG is the best i've seen on any bike, at about 60 miles per gallon.

@biker_marinator5696 2 жыл бұрын

As always a great review.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

@don_alex_97 6 ай бұрын

another nice review

@ADVScott342 2 жыл бұрын

Very good honest review and yes it kind of fits into a category of its own , I think also a negative for me is the short valve adjustment interval at 12k so basically every 3rd oil change is also a valve adjustment maintenance cost. But seems like a well rounded bike with good touring aspects like your review implicates. Tuff decision on this one for sure. Thanks for putting so much time in these reviews you cover all the bases and are at the top of heap of trusted evaluations👍

@ray8328 2 жыл бұрын

I got the first valve check done at the last service and it was not too expensive. Turned out all valve tolerances were within spec so no adjustments required. They only charged me the extra labour which was about 100 euro more than normal.

@jeffgrimes411 2 жыл бұрын

Bought a 2019 850GS as my first motorcycle (55 and retired). Used it to learn slow speed handling and traffic management techniques, did a 3000+ mile cross-country trip from Detroit, through Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, to Phoenix...and tried some off roading in 4-Peaks area here in Phoenix. Heavy bike that lays very flat when it drops (I had the GS, not GSA). I needed help to lift it back up both times I dropped it. Great feature set (almost everything I could get on a 1250 at the time). After 9000 miles in the 8 months, two things happened: Bike was too heavy for me off-road, albeit some of this was my obvious limited skills. 2. My wife was taken by all the great pictures of the cross-country trip and wanted to ride with me. So, we traded the 850GS for 2021 Goldwing Tour. No more offroad, but wow; a touring beast. 27000 miles in 20 months...and love everything about it. I do miss the "adventure" aspect of travelling down occasional dirt roads...but can't justify 2 bikes. Great review.

@CharlesLindsay1 2 жыл бұрын

There's definitely something to be said for riding two-up, but I also want to go where cars can't, or wont go.

@My_Ride 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! The Goldwing is superior for on road traveling 👍🏻

@CharlesLindsay1 2 жыл бұрын

@@My_Ride a gold wing is a much different bike. More expensive to buy, insure, repair. And MUCH less off-road worthy, unless you’re these guys: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7Oiq8iWxMzFqqM.html

@dashuntas.m4045 2 жыл бұрын

“…but can’t justify two bikes” exactly, I’ve been searching for a ‘unicorn’ that can do it all for the same reason.

@okupchurchiii7850 2 жыл бұрын

try to pick up that Gold Wing !!!!! I am a small guy, 5'-7", 200lbs.....I had a BMW K1200LT (833lbs) and could pick that without any trouble.....I now have a BMW r1200gs lc, 649lbs......can pick this bike up too, but takes little more effort but not difficult......with the proper technique, you can pick up any bike too....search the internet for ways to pick up a bike.....I find that walking backwards into the bike is the best and easiest for me.....also, remember to have it in gear or you'll go around in circles......good luck and happy trails

@SebastianDrzewiecki Жыл бұрын

You are epic. I love your channel. Thx a lot for doing this.

@c3h4organic97 2 жыл бұрын

As an owner of a F850GSA (2020) with 17tkm, I agree everything you said in this review. BMW focus is on reliability and usability often taking the disadvantage to us thicker bolts (and more of them) and sturdier parts. This adds up and make this a fat lady. Some people need to understand, that there are weight limits for offroad challenges and even 200kg are too much for trickier terrain. I experienced the F850GSA with knobby tires to be a good bike on gravel roads and not too steep climbs as an very comforting "offroader". Thank you for the honest and useful review! Highly recommend your channel and your work.

@tjs201971 Жыл бұрын

Rewatching this video reminds me that the f750gs is better for shorter riders and new riders! Ian does amazing reviews and doesn’t hold back! Thanks again Ian!

@MTravelFPV 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed your video. 🤩⭐️ Thanks for Sharing! 👍🏼💕

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for visiting

@no1ego 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great information and presentation.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@MotorDanko 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, you have amped my will to keep my self on the ktm/husqvarna side... i would miss the camly highway ride of the BMW's... but everything else....

@fireteam_ 2 жыл бұрын

Like the music change on the intro Ian, much less somber and more upbeat 🙂

@Buckeyesully 3 ай бұрын

Can't wait for a review of the 2024!

@CameronLittlesustainablecam 2 жыл бұрын

Another great review Ian! I was really pleased when it popped up in my feed as I've been keen to see a quality and balanced review of this bike.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@CameronLittlesustainablecam 2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRockMoto and the soundtrack is super funky!

@Carlnewman68 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic review, very professional clear spoken and as a GSA rider I would think about this when it’s time to find a bike a little easier as age catches up to me . Thank you

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@davidc1961utube 2 жыл бұрын

Having ridden both the F700gs and the F800gs, I expect your review of the F750 to be more favourable, especially compared to the competition. I found the F800 to be a tall, twitchy PITA to ride slowly off road. The F700 was immediately comfortable, and I rode it confidently around Iceland on a tour, including several river crossings. The difference was enormous. This bike is heavier than the 150hp 94ft-lb Harley, which I took for a test ride at release. Say what you want about the motor company, that bike was fun, fast and comfortable on the street, and didn’t scare me on the gravel road I took it down. At least it wasn’t scarier than a GS1250, LOL. As you rightly conclude, this bike is OK for ADV touring, but there is a lot of very capable competition at this weight, price and power level. The BMW I really want to see is the rumoured 390 enduroish bike seen in spy photos. That would be a much better match to my riding style, skills and budget. Cheers!

@salettamantova1765 2 жыл бұрын

great video as usual. I have the normal 40th year edition and I'm very satisfied.I think that a good advise is: find one used and full optional equipped.

@14sgs 2 жыл бұрын

Great Review.

@kohjor224 Жыл бұрын

Wow I think I’m most impressed with the audio quality while riding!

@Tarkanbh 8 ай бұрын

Thinking of changing from T7 to 850Adv and of course your video first one on the list to get my bearing on since I have never owned a BMW. Another great review I must say. It does help a lot so thank you. :) P.s. on the 16min mark what are those gloves - they look commfy😮 Keep them coming.

@javiervio4189 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see your review of a regular F850gs

@dylanrichards9984 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, I nearly went for one of these last year but opted for an R1200GS instead and glad I did 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@OneOldManRiding 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. Very even handed, though I cannot get begone the weight and power after watching 890 and Tiger 900 reviews. I just cannot imagine considering this bike given what the competition offers today. - Frank

@ararami1 Жыл бұрын

Impressive video and review. I really love this 850 GSA, how it looks, how it is built, and the tank capacity, I also like the fuel economy. However, New Africa Twin Adventure Sport is offering way more and better features, bulletproof reliability, and a beautiful design. I’m not sure about which one will be my next bike. I’m coming from a DL 1000 V-strom adventure. Which was another battle tank, super reliable. At this point, probably I will choose the Africa twin. I will consult it with my pillow. I really appreciate this amazing review, it gave me another perspective for one of my dream bikes. Stay and ride safe!

@dvh00hvb 2 жыл бұрын

Love this review, picked up a 1998 r1100gs not too long ago and instantly fell in love with it. BMW had a good formula back then and from what I’ve heard everyone still lives there gs bikes. I have been considering an 850gsa because every bad thing I’ve heard is something that is still better than my gs. Even with that said I take my bike on trails it has no right to be on and with some effort make it though. The only reason to get rid of my 1100 is just to get some modern touches that I wish I had. I am patiently waiting to see these on the used market and once the depreciate I think they will become classic BMWs.

@rbrucerogers Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the 4 gallon fuel capacity on the regular 850GS. I've been looking at a used one to downsize from my 2016 KTM 1290 Super Adventure, but I don't think I could live with the reduced fuel range.

@jaygrafton3048 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to your review of the BMW F750GS as it is on my short list. I have a 250 Rally for off-road and need something larger to travel on. I also still want something I run down a gravel road on .

@elonmust7470 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos are great.

@murraehaynes3182 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughtful review. Makes me glad I bought my ‘17 800GS…the over 100 lbs less weight more than makes up for the 5 less HP….at 170 lbs the ESA suspension works great and the front springs are good for my weight…I’m thinking of dropping a set of Ohlins cartridges in the front…it’s a great long distance touring bike with the aluminum panniers and Dunlop Mission 50/50 tires give it confidence inspiring handling in “sport” mode. The lighter weight and Enduro Pro mode make it fun off pavement..I’m also thinking of adding a Scott’s steering damper.

@rbrown1339 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian, great review job as usual. Have you done a review of the CFMoto IBex 800T yet? Wondering how it may compare to the F850gs. Thanks again and safe travels!

@panyachunnanonda6274 Жыл бұрын

I love F 850 GSA and your this VDO Clip.

@debb.7431 Жыл бұрын

top class review

@jkrzton89 Жыл бұрын

Your Chanel is great

@dravmenon Жыл бұрын

Seeing this review in 2023. Was comparing F850GSA with Africa twin. Supercool review

@roger5455 2 жыл бұрын

Gracias ! bien información !!

@Liberty4Ever 2 жыл бұрын

What a great review. Everything I'd expect from Big Rock Moto. Thanks! It'll be interesting to see what the new Honda TransAlp will be. I'm hoping 500-700 cc and a large fuel tank. I'd love it if it was a simpler version of the Africa Twin, reimagined as an Africa Single, but I'd bet it'll be a 700+ cc twin to compete with the Tenere 700.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

would be amazing if true

@pascalmg6209 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I do agree with, BMW does offer a relatively competitive price with the standard version of this bike. But once you are in the shop, they will sell you the 1250...

@floydball9421 2 жыл бұрын

That was awesome video

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MLS_Adventure 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian. Well done as always. You confirmed what I assumed when comparing the 850 to the 1250. Buy the 1250!

@davewilton3101 8 ай бұрын

First time I have come across your channel. Really nicely done review. I am considering downsizing from an Indian Challenger to something lighter (I'm 70) with decent weather protection and I'd say this bike is on the shortlist. Plus my Indian dealer also sells BMW and the service dept is excellent. In 2005 I bought a new bmw k1200s, rode it for 7 years, had a few issues after the warranty period expired, one major, and bmw stepped up to the plate and looked after them. My dealer says their warranty support is still excellent. May demo one today if the dealer will let me take a demo out in rain....best time to check out the weather protection.

@marcready6369 2 жыл бұрын

That was an excellent review. I think there is no need for BMW to ostracize you as you fairly assessed this beautiful & unique motorcycle. It looks great and would be a joy to ride for the right rider. It is a premium machine, and not what i would get as the AT is somehow lighter & has a bigger engine that will not strain on long or high speed road riding. It has some features i like, and handles better than i expected so i hope BMW appreciate your fair and objective review of this lovely bike. I particularly like the tank size, the wind protection and the factory crash bars, oh and that display and power ports should be on every new bike IMHO.

@RidingClassicBikes Жыл бұрын

I wanna thank you because you don’t speak fast and I can understand everything you say!!! Greetings from Athens, Greece 😊😊😊😊

@adrianm.1910 Жыл бұрын

I would put it in dynamic mode for the twisties. The bike changes its personality when dynamic is set. I have 5000 mi with mine and I agree with this review. Thanks, Ian!

@bradb2514 2 жыл бұрын

Love, love, love the stuffed elephant. I didn’t see it coming! 😀

@robsch5746 2 жыл бұрын

Best thing about your reviews, is your clear pronunciation (because I’m non native) and your subtitles considering metric measurements…

@inrptn 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the excellent review. Hope you will cover the Kawasaki Versys X-300!

@f18a 2 жыл бұрын

Very professional and thorough review, as always. Thanks. I considered this bike earlier this year, but couldn't justify it. I would have just bought a used 1250GS instead. But I passed on both and bought an Africa Twin.

@jason.couture7177 2 жыл бұрын

What was the deciding factor in going with the Honda?

@f18a 2 жыл бұрын

@@jason.couture7177 Predicted reliability (and price).

@danielpalmberg3371 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting review! Especially to hear about the touring comfort and many options on seat height. If you compare long touring comfort on this bike compared to Norden, Africa Twin, V-Strom 1050, KTM 1290 and R1250GS(A) - how would you rate them to each other?

@motechRevolution 2 ай бұрын

I have just bought and am reviewing a Voge 900 DSX, for all intent and purpose. Its the same bike as this. I am going to link this video to my review. It pretty much sums up my opinions of the DSX . Ride safe and thanks for the reviews.

@mikemerrill175 2 жыл бұрын

Great honest review. Your evaluation process continues to become more and more professional. The mfg’s should take note.

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@CharlesLindsay1 2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRockMoto Yeah, I appreciate the effort you put into these reviews. I do notice the extra effort: the graphs are interesting and easy enough to read, and including chapters! Thank you!