BMW i8 induction noise UNLOCKED! I can hear the turbo! Sounds like a McLaren roof scoop!

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4 жыл бұрын

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I found an intake resonator / silencer, also known as a clean air pipe, from a salvage BMW i8 that had been totaled. I paid about $100 for this item and decided to cut it open with a dremel tool and disassemble it in order to see what it was made of. I then decided to put it on the BMW i8 just to see if it altered the induction noise. It now it sounds like a McLaren with a roof scoop! I unlocked the BMW i8 turbo noise!
After reading the article "Resonator Made of DuPont Zytel PLUS 95G35 aims to reduce the typical high-frequency air intake sound to a lower level, so improving driving experience," I learned that BMW, yet again, modified the BMW i8 in order to make it quieter. Here is that article:
www.technicaltextile.net/news...
www.jeccomposites.com/knowledg...
Just like I had done by removing the performance intake path air box flap, I decided to continue on down the plumbing and find out what made this pipe make the BMW i8 quieter. If you haven't seen that video, check out:
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Instructions on how to remove the resonator / silencer / clean air pipe:
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Instructions on how to remove the engine compartment fan:
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@jehanandrewgerreyn2454 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome project Pat! Finally we could hear some engine noice...keep up the good work buddy!

@geraldcole3315 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, I hope to have an i8 soon and I will definitely make some of the modifications you have. Keep up the good work.

@Evapors 4 жыл бұрын

Pat you’re on the next level! This has never been done before!!! Thank you!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Very true. Never done before. Thank you!

@TheTranceMaker 4 жыл бұрын

I’m so amazed with all of different new ideas with your car! 😳😲🤓 You’re doing great, my friend.

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@777locknload 4 жыл бұрын

Turbo noises "🐥🐥🐥" LOL! Great video, just subscribed!

@alirezahamidifayegh Жыл бұрын

Thanks my brother. Good luck.

@vwconversion697 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work Pat!

@moderngarage458 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. You had me at “turbo spool” 😎.

@DoctaM3 4 жыл бұрын

pretty impressive--scientifically performed test. Nice job, Pat!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jackdoe3889 7 ай бұрын

One reason why intake pipes are made of plastic is to avoid them heating up and thus causing intake air temp to raise. Using aluminum for the mod is counter productive. Especially with the pipe running so close to the turbo.

@GPCustoms 4 жыл бұрын

Great job Pat you are an inspiration to us all!

@Evapors 4 жыл бұрын

Facts! I8 family we love Pat! 🙏🏾🛸

@dragontea22 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I have a 2015 I8 as well with 85,000km (53,000 miles) and no issues so far. Knock on wood.

@stephanzechmair1481 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Pad, thanks again for a great video. Have some additional info on your modification after doing it 3 times... (yes, 3 times). First, no need to take of the wheel and the wheel housing. The 'clean air pipe' can be taken out easily from the rear hatch engine access. It took me exactly 12 minutes when I did it the third time. So to take it out: take off air filter top, leave air filter box and air filter. Remove the rubber elbow between air box and 'air pipe'. Now, the trick is to remove the Air tubes not at the 'air pipe' but at the other end , right next to the ignition coils. There are 3 air hoses to disconnect . One is a sensor. I had a relay hard time to disconnect the air tube clips....still a lot easier then at the other end. One more electric connector to disconnect and you can easily take out the 'clean air pipe'

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that you were able to accomplish this from above the engine. Thank you for writing this feedback. I had so much difficulty removing the 3 hoses that I needed to have an assistant reaching in through the wheel arch to loosen the connectors, just so I can pull up on them from the top of the engine. I was surprised how tight they were on there. The electronic device is actually a heater, not a sensor. BMW puts heaters at both ends of the PVC lines in order to prevent cold weather icing from blocking the line. I also had a hard time disengaging the metal clip that holds the clean air pipe to the elbow that goes to the Turbo, so I disengaged that from the wheel. It was so hard to loosen all of this and I was very frustrated, so I never uploaded any video. I think I would have had to remove the wheel to be able to get any recordings, however. Oh well. I'm very happy to hear that you got it without removing the wheel and thanks for replying.

@isthatcxrlos5108 4 жыл бұрын

No dislikes thats wholesome I like your videos i plan to buy this car in the future your videos help out, thanks!!

@adamradmand 7 ай бұрын

Great work! I am thinking of adding a blow off valve.

@ericbown1551 3 жыл бұрын

Great job 👏

@yenoor406 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Pat 👍🏼

@Evapors 4 жыл бұрын

I get all my i8 channel inspiration from Pat! He’s the best in our i8 community!!!

@Chris_Williams07 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the video bud! About the air filter, I thought there wouldn't be much difference from the standard panel filter compared to the k&n panel filter myself but i thought id give it a go and it definitely gives off more turbo sound best thing i've done to my bm haha, might be worth venturing down in the future! Keep up the great vids

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can hear more turbo noise with the K&N. I have one. However, I noticed no difference in turbo noise between the two after doing my airbox mod, and I got tired of cleaning it every 2 months.

@AtomicZ06 4 жыл бұрын

That’s some good music from that turbo!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was surprised it even had the ability. Slowly unlocking achievement with this car. 🤣

@Evapors 4 жыл бұрын

👍🏾

@TheRambutan2000 3 жыл бұрын

You could use stainless steel cable ties instead of the pipe clamps if you're worried about weight

@GetExhausted 4 жыл бұрын

i believe the part is actually manufactured using ultra rare prefabulated amulite

@andrewsmith-jf6ou Жыл бұрын

You could use aluminium and flange the meeting points then rivet instead of using the clips, this would save weight.

@adominable1 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Aluminum foil tape may have worked a little more airtight to close the holes

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I was considering that but didn't know if the heat would affect the adhesive and I didn't want anything to degrade and get sucked into the turbo.

@ZeroEight 2 жыл бұрын

6:21 Pat, you should start a band

@MotionScientific 11 ай бұрын

The first thing you should be changing if you want to hear more turbo noise is that stock paper filter.

@PatsGarageOnline 11 ай бұрын

Yep, did that already

@raneeshadilshan7740 Жыл бұрын

Super

@JoshRReese 4 жыл бұрын

Great job. I fear the duct causing a rattle over time. If that becomes an issue, perhaps some jb weld all over the perforated pipe, prior to duct installation would prevent\solve the problem.

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I can always cut it back open and mess with it. I considered just using zip ties but I'm not sure how much heat is in there. JB Weld will keep those clamps from vibrating and loosening.

@JoshRReese 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, I didn't even think about the clamps. That's valid. I was just thinking about the deformation of the materials over time. Varied environments, heat cycles, harmonics of the materials causing rattles but, you're right. The worm gears backing out 1\2 turn is just as, or more likely. Regardless, solid exploration, explanation, and result, as per usual.

@surajmaharana5257 3 жыл бұрын

Sir please show the BMW i8 roof mechanism please sir🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏A HUMBLE REQUEST

@spmadeez 2 жыл бұрын

You may cause it to get hot now. The metal can now retain the heat if any, and melt the plastic. You should of used aluminum tape, or your original thought , duct tape. It cannot get that hot, its plastic.

@monoskier2112 3 жыл бұрын

You should be using a K&N air filter instead of that Fram filter. The Fram filter is very restrictive , you will get greater airflow with the K&N😎🇨🇦

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

I put a K&N in the car early on. It does flow better but doesn't filter as good. I switch depending on the application (daily driving or racing/testing).

@monoskier2112 3 жыл бұрын

Ya I know I just saw the video 😄😄😄😄 I use the K&N in all my cars, I really like how they perform. Thanks for all the info on the BMW I8 I am hoping to pick one up here in Canada within the next year or two🇨🇦😎

@petercarey6883 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Pat. I don't know what happened to my original comment, so I'll try and duplicate same. In a previous life you had to be a cross between a heart surgeon and a detective. 😉 This was a great upload. I think you should have performed one more sound test though, which maybe you could do in the future. Test without the factory air box filter installed. No, you don't have to take it out on the road and risk any road debris be drawn in, just an in-garage sound test. Well, this is my abbreviated comment version of my original. Don't get used to these short comments. 🤭 The Man of Few Words is out! Save the Wave🙋🏼‍♂️

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter! That's weird that your original comment disappeared. Sometimes I can see if comments are withheld for spam or other issues, but your's was not held for review. Sorry that happened! I actually have an open-air air cleaning and considered mounting that in place of the air box. That way I could get even more induction noise. But, there is so much heat in the compartment that I decided to forego. But, your test in the garage setting makes sense. It might be worth a shot the next time I'm in the engine compartment. Thanks!

@petercarey6883 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for double-checking as to the whereabouts of my original comment. I won't discount the possibility that I never hit the "reply" box, but who knows. Whenever I don't have at least one pot of Chock full O'nuts consumed for you detailed uploads, anything is possible. But this "lost" comment was unusually brilliant and exceeded all my previous brilliant comments.🤭 Anyway, I do hope you can do that one final "in garage" test. FWIW, I'll probably never have an I8 in my garage, but I really enjoy seeing all these "items" you are able to eek out of yours and your creativity in accomplishing these. Plus , what I've really found helpful is your links to various tools that you've purchased to accomplish some of your projects. Take care and keep those decibels on the rise!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Peter. Sorry to have not seen your brilliant reply. I'm always look forward to your excellent commentary. I do have an exhaust installation planned for the future. My friend Alex from the UK is working on a custom exhaust for the I8 that actually sounds good. Once that is complete, I will have it in hand and be able to do an install video. Looking forward to hearing what it sounds like!

@petercarey6883 4 жыл бұрын

"Sounds" good Pat. No pun intended. Well, maybe just a little. 😉

@beebeequail 3 жыл бұрын

Same construction as a gun silencer.

@NoReverse77 Жыл бұрын

You van put resisters on that pct heater and just get rid of all that crap, then put an intake on.

@COCOPUFF904 4 жыл бұрын

Hi I just found out I can’t charge my US-Spec BMW i8 overseas in Germany 🇩🇪 so sad as military member can’t use hybrid cars in Europe I went to both Bmw dealership German and our on Base military sales he said this why they don’t offer hybrid overseas US-spec. The plug 🔌 is different that’s sadly to hear thought it was Universal plug 🔌. I even contact a military member who had an i8 over in germany for his duty time he confirmed it “ Can’t charge in Germany unless you buy typ1 to typ2 adapter “ ! But would that void warranty most answers yes. So needs a lot off improvement on electric ⚡️ and universal plugs 🔌.

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about those issues. Yes, the EU has different kinds of chargers. I've read that adapters will work. Please check out the Bimmerpost forums to see what others have said. A quick search shows this fellow in Norway had a similar concern: bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1741041

@GetExhausted 4 жыл бұрын

brap brap brap stu stu stu stu

@retbul001 Жыл бұрын

Hi Pat. I downloaded the manual for BMW I8 but I dont know how to open this file. Do You know which program will work to open this file? the maual file is .OVA

@PatsGarageOnline Жыл бұрын

Visit the emanualonline web site, click Support, search for OVA. They have detailed instructions there.

@ChasingTheApex 4 жыл бұрын

Just so strange to me that they want to take away from the driving experience to reduce the sound,

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Precisely. They wanted to make it so over luxurious and quiet that nobody could hear the engine so they had to develop fake engine noise. The car actually sounds closer to being a car than it ever has, now. And, the people on the i8 forum will be split. Some will love this, others will hate it and tell me that if I wanted that I should buy a different car because I'm changing what the engineers intended. Wait until I put a pops and bangs tune on it. LOL!

@ChasingTheApex 4 жыл бұрын

@@PatsGarageOnline tell them you're just making it the supercar it was meant to be :p

@jairocarvalho9187 3 жыл бұрын

So BMW engineers spend a lot time to make the car quieter to them put fake engine noises in the cabin... I’m glad there are tutorials like this around. Now we just need to find out how to turn the fake sounds off.

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, based on EU regulations and BMW's mission, making the car quiet on the outside was definitely a goal. That fake noise that you hear on the inside of the cabin was necessary to hear when to shift in manual mode, but it's still weird. The internal augmented sound is built into the sound module which controls all sounds coming from the entertainment system, so it's impossible to turn it off. I wish it could be coded out but no one has done it, yet.

@jairocarvalho9187 3 жыл бұрын

I found these guys hacking into their BMW. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsikeMR8s77JnIE.html

@harakiri999 3 жыл бұрын

Just a thought, can you extend the battery range on the I8 Roadster? I only get around 30 miles per charge

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

The i8 Roadster, as well as any i8 made during 2019/2020, have the highest capacity battery. You won't be able to increase the range. I only get 16-20mi out of my 2015 which is normal. All 2014-2018 i8's have the smaller capacity battery.

@toddaulner5393 7 ай бұрын

Does the power go way down when it gets low or does it regenerate?

@spacestar4189 3 жыл бұрын

how would it sound like without the thing inside mh

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, there's no way to remove the inside cabin noise. It's built into the sound module of the car that generates the music, warning chimes, etc.

@aserta 3 жыл бұрын

2:49 TIP: go get yourself the cheapest oscillating saw, for jobs like these, where you don't want dust, you don't want to deal with the mess, it's the perfect solution and with the right blade, it cuts any material you'll find i a car, glass included.

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of those. I just didn't feel I had as much control with it because it's so big. I don't have a vice big enough to hold either of these and would have preferred to have two hands on the saw. The little dremel felt more controllable.

@mrfiera 2 жыл бұрын

Once you cut that piece how did u glue it together?

@PatsGarageOnline 2 жыл бұрын

10:48 I used epoxy

@oswaldogonzalez2625 4 жыл бұрын

Anybody knows what year is this i8? Im getting a very good deal on a 2015 i8 with 7000 miles. Any comments? Advise please

@Evapors 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a 2015. We have the same i8! I would say it’s best to buy one under warranty. BMW has the 5 year 50k mikes standard warranty. Good luck! 🙏🏾🛸

@oswaldogonzalez2625 4 жыл бұрын

On my budget its impossible to get one with warranty now. I live in Mexico so warranty is for only 3 years. Im worried about the battery life. As i mentioned, its a very low milage car as usual around here. Any advise on how to validate battery life?

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Battery life can only be verified by BMW. However, the battery is warranted for 8 years or 100k miles. Do, even if the car is out of warranty, the high voltage battery is under warranty separately. The battery is likely not to fail. The parts that seem to be failing most often are coolant system components, the Air Conditioning compressor (which also cools the battery, so this needs to be working) and the suspension shocks. As long as you have $10k USD available for repairs, you should be ok, however. Do not buy this car if you do not have that kind of money for repairs. Coolant issues can be up to $3k, AC compressor can be up to $8k and shocks can be up to $3k per shock, parts plus labor.

@oswaldogonzalez2625 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much guys. I hope i find the right i8 soon so i can start working on it.

@frarin3913 4 жыл бұрын

Engineers spend a lot of time making it quiet...reverse engineering fun...Darth Vader mods 😄

@user-uk9wt8tn8h 4 жыл бұрын

😁😂GOOD 👍 BMW I8

@quadrtr1297 4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a playlist of i8 airflow mods you’ve done to maximize flow and sound? If I remember right it’s 1. Intake valve 2. Exhaust valve fuse 3. Intake baffle Also, have you made contact with any of the designers to get their take?

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Those are the only mods I did. The ones you listed. I don't have any contact with the designers. The i8 Ambassador is my contact right now and he let me know who worked on the sound engineering but I never reached out to that individual

@quadrtr1297 3 жыл бұрын

@@PatsGarageOnline could the baffle be substituted with a straight pipe?

@stephenleskow7959 3 жыл бұрын

Why not just remove the baffle and put the piece back on?

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to create a hollow sound.

@ActiYT 4 жыл бұрын

why in their right mind would they ever design a product to get rid turbo noise.

@ChasingTheApex 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

"BMW 8 series" must be luxurious and quiet. But, too quiet to the point where they had to add fake engine noises. Uggh!

@ActiYT 4 жыл бұрын

@@PatsGarageOnline when did Lamborghini or ferrari ever worry about their beautiful machines being too loud?

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

@@ActiYT Never. The board of directors at BMW are a totally different type of decision makers. And they never wanted the i8 to be a competitor to those cars. BMW insiders exclaim that they wanted an efficient, quiet, stylish machine that was different than anything else on the road. But, we want much more than that. 😁

@Beemergirl89 3 жыл бұрын

K&N air filter would make it better .

@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын

I have a K&N air filter and a stock air filter. I can hear more turbo noise with the K&N but more dirt passes through the K&N filter so I swap between the two depending on driving conditions.