BMW M135i AUTO vs MANUAL Test/Review 2016 LCI

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Joe Achilles

Joe Achilles

Күн бұрын

I've been wanting to do this comparison test for a while now, we only had about an hour, hopefully you guys like the content. This back to back road test confirmed that the auto is definitely more of a everyday tool, it's also fractionally faster in most situations. Although I wish there was a intermediate setting on adaptive suspension cars, this test did reveal that my adaptive optioned car felt like a better damped car in general, the standard car seemed to get more upset by smaller bumps and take longer to settle/recover afterwards...
Music by - / alexihc
Special thanks to my buddy John for use of his Auto M135 and his time/verdict!
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Cheers Joe.

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@Kiadaw77
@Kiadaw77 7 жыл бұрын
I am so happy. Shopping for one now. Hopefully getting on by end of the year.
@TRHamza
@TRHamza 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thoroughly enjoyed it!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Supercarfanatic94 Cheers man :-)
@svo7563
@svo7563 8 жыл бұрын
This seems like the most fun thing ever, just cruising around in M135i's
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+nan shagger It was ace man!
@superblimey123
@superblimey123 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh the Bois! Know the area well and some great roads! Good vid Joe and good channel. Keep up the good work!!
@fudgeeeeeee
@fudgeeeeeee 8 жыл бұрын
Agree to a large extent. I took a long time test driving several cars - in the end (personal preference) chose 2013 auto m135i with adaptive ,having tried golf r, rs3 and manual m135i, it was the best compromise of adrenaline , power and excitement ... Ultimately whatever puts a smile on your face... gonna get another for my next car!
@scotttopo
@scotttopo 8 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Can not wait to pick my auto up, 2 days before my 22nd birthday so will be a nice treat!
@batman291
@batman291 8 жыл бұрын
Two guys having a blast in their cars. What a joyful vid :-)
@antk2367
@antk2367 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, Love the vids. I am collecting my first M135I, auto box in blue tomorrow and can't wait. Thanks for the sound advice and action regarding these cars. Ant K.
@scottvandenberg9161
@scottvandenberg9161 7 жыл бұрын
Great review lads, well done.
@maxgusatz5644
@maxgusatz5644 8 жыл бұрын
Best video yet Joe, nice one my friend!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Max Poilu Cheers Max!
@straatman12345
@straatman12345 8 жыл бұрын
great video, you guys are good at communicating and talking about the performance of the cars (I've got the 2012 1 series, not quite as much tech as you guys ;) )
@jamesbrowne7586
@jamesbrowne7586 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe - as the owner of a manual white LCI (with sunroof), I was keen to see this video for a while. Posted to the BMW M135i & M235i UK Facebook group.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+James Browne I wonder if yours was the beautiful 15 reg car I saw pics of on Baby BMW that gave me the inspiration....? Thanks for sharing, I didn't even know there was such a FB page, checking out now :-) Cheers man
@jamesbrowne7586
@jamesbrowne7586 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles I bought mine new in November after watching the review of your manual one. My mind was made up! :) My local dealer happened to have a cancelled order in the dealer and a week later I ordered it. Never looked back. Although the M2 is looking very tempting!
@goonasuk
@goonasuk 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, love all your M135i videos - infact I just ordered a new one only this morning :)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Great to hear man, counting down the days.... 👍
@Adam-M1
@Adam-M1 8 жыл бұрын
Love your videos joe. Very entertaining.
@rustystuff
@rustystuff 8 жыл бұрын
Nice one bud. Thoroughly enjoyed that as usual. Top music too 😎👍
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Russ Clark Cheers man, nicked that tune from one of Mr Jww's video haha.
@MsArsonal
@MsArsonal 5 жыл бұрын
Auto is the future
@charliegray7797
@charliegray7797 8 жыл бұрын
Great video mate keep it up! Just picked my M135i Auto up with the M performance exhaust and body kit. Absolutely love it!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Gray Thank you man! Glad you have your weapon now too :-) Enjoy my friend
@DrCrazyAzz
@DrCrazyAzz 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video boys, well done
@Mr330d
@Mr330d 8 жыл бұрын
Great video this is what driving is all about More than just getting from a to b
@tkracing5945
@tkracing5945 6 жыл бұрын
I'd loved to drive cars with my friends and talk to eachother like that. Awesome video !
@itrecinque9022
@itrecinque9022 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet. My old 135i dct felt faster than my M4 6MT so I totally agree with you. Sometimes I feel lazy and want an auto but you can't beat the manual. Nice vids Joe.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+I trecinque Cheers man, it will be interesting to see how my DTC M2 feels...
@jayding486
@jayding486 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks for sharing. I am very pleased with mine so far. TBH, even in theory it's slower I would say I will pick up a MT all the time. Its more about the feeling of getting connected and the fun of driving. There is only one thing I am not happy with the MT in m135i, the gearing changing is still a bit too long especially for the first 3 gears. I think it makes sense since it's not an actual 'M' car. But overall, what an amazing car ! Would recommend for anyone who is interested in getting one!!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jay Ding Cheers man. Yeah I totally agree, its all about the pure connection you get in the manual, 1st three cogs might be slightly long, but then I wish 6th was a bit longer when on long motorway drives...
@odgie9915
@odgie9915 5 жыл бұрын
That scrap, is someone else's car. Maybe all they can afford. Nothing wrong with that. People need to get around.
@MaximilianoDvyhailo
@MaximilianoDvyhailo 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely this video is about stupid people owning and reviewing good cars, clearly demonstrated in 24:12
@TheSlothofDOOM
@TheSlothofDOOM 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That wasn't necessary. Not everyone can afford their dream car
@specialboye4910
@specialboye4910 4 жыл бұрын
but they are gay though, KA's are really really gay
@EzComEzG0
@EzComEzG0 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone will live.
@Nypartcannon
@Nypartcannon 2 жыл бұрын
Finance free
@midi458
@midi458 8 жыл бұрын
Never considered the dampers tbh, think it's now going to be added. Ordering my M240i in the next month or so, can't wait :) Great videos keep it up Joe
@markahomer
@markahomer 8 жыл бұрын
Another interesting and useful video Joe.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+John Doe Cheers man
@ofentsepheto5351
@ofentsepheto5351 8 жыл бұрын
that's quite a good review...nice looking cars by the way, you can never go wrong with a bmw.
@michaelSprung
@michaelSprung 7 жыл бұрын
That Estoril Blue is amazing... really contemplating between the Blue and Black..or perhaps mineral grey. less attention on the road I suppose.
@oowawa
@oowawa 8 жыл бұрын
Picking up the 2016 auto this weekend. Can't wait to see what it can do :)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+oowawa Hope you're enjoying it buddy! Woohoo!
@simonhill6267
@simonhill6267 4 жыл бұрын
The zf 8speed is so good it even makes the dsg boxes redundant
@omegaman.1595
@omegaman.1595 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe, where about's did you film it ?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Neil Doman Cheers man all a bit rushed haha. Mostly near Amersham
@markb3480
@markb3480 3 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thing that people want to see. The people that take driving seriously don’t need to know about anything that isn’t a BMW. All they need to know is the difference between the models of the range that suits them and their needs. I have always had manual BMW but the 8 speed ZF auto is the best dual clutch system available and it’s proven to be the better choice for a daily driver.
@claytonfarlow76
@claytonfarlow76 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, thanks for the videos, I really enjoy them. I am looking for a pre-registered M140i, and although plentiful, most of them don't have adaptive suspension. How important do you think it is to have it? I can find a car with it, but it would probably mean compromising in other areas such as colour etc. Would be great to have your opinion on this if you have time.
@mattkaye404
@mattkaye404 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jo, I am keen to know your thoughts on making my M140i auto more comfortable on our pot-holed roads. Like you, I love the car but should probably have specced the adaptive suspension - would your new Eibach springs and spacers make a big difference? Thanks!
@adrewsona
@adrewsona 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe & John, that was very useful. The only reason I was leaning towards a manual was from the experience of driving a Saab Aero auto on tight country roads & wishing I was on on top of the revs in a manual. I resorted to leaving it in 3rd gear. I suspect, from what you say, that the BMW box is more responsive? The second question is whether there is a sports option for the auto box? I am slightly confused because I see cars listed as having a sports box as an option - when it seems logical to equip all M series cars with one! So is there a sports option and did John's have it - if not did he wish he had?
@mattpaget
@mattpaget 7 жыл бұрын
i know that roundabout at the beginning of the video, good road
@MrRenobarbican
@MrRenobarbican 8 жыл бұрын
Great vids. But I'll have to buy one now!!
@lucass.g.6968
@lucass.g.6968 7 жыл бұрын
Great!!! The UK is wonderful, specially driving a BMW. I'm from Brazil, we don't have nice road to enjoy a sport vehicle, unfortunately.
@marshmule
@marshmule 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, on the manual is there much of a fuel saving between comfort and eco? Or sport and comfort?
@IceFish.
@IceFish. 8 жыл бұрын
good review I went without the adaptive suspension on me little m235i but I didn't think it needed it as it is sold as a sports coupe as such
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+culinarymatt87 Yeah the M235 is a more sorted chassis to start with, sure both set ups feel great! Cheers man!
@quiet_desperation
@quiet_desperation 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm going to order an M140i when it's launched.
@talmi12000
@talmi12000 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, this is quite interesting since I was thinking about getting an auto or a manual. But I'm missing some technical information here. Since the automatic has the much longer gearing (0,67 vs. 0,85) I would like to know the benefit in fuel consumption in different driving situations. Is there any at all? How big is the drag in different gears auto vs. manual or does the auto really do what the driver wants it to do? For example how long does is take to switch from first to rear when parking? Do you have to wait a second until the wheels turn backwards? Can you stay in 8th downhill and just roll or does it shift back so you have to put your foot down to keep going the same speed? What's the real weight of both cars?
@georgetallent1834
@georgetallent1834 5 жыл бұрын
Great video but digging someone out at the end for having a car that they can afford is not really classy is it? Someone filming an M5 video might think the same about your motor
@robcharlton4486
@robcharlton4486 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. And the person filming the M5 is looked down upon from the person filming the Lotus Evora, and so on. The majority of people don't care about cars and their performance. He lost my subscription
@EzComEzG0
@EzComEzG0 3 жыл бұрын
@@robcharlton4486 A lot of people do care as well, and that's why they watch the videos...sooo
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 3 жыл бұрын
Truth be told in the UK people are spoiled for choice when it comes to used cars and whatever the owner of that Ka paid for it I'm sure they could have bought something far better with the same money. Buying a car like that is more a sign that you don't know anything about cars than that you can't afford a better one.
@kamilianos
@kamilianos 3 жыл бұрын
the car was scrapped in Feb 2019 , so he was right on the ball with calling it scrap :)
@ianjones3683
@ianjones3683 7 жыл бұрын
you need to do same vid with m2 manual vs dct what would you go for in them? thanks
@humfmaestro
@humfmaestro 8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting watching how much your hands are moving around with the steering wheel as soon as you push on. Had one of these and stashed it in for a golf r the other week partly because I hated the steering and how uninspiring/confidence killing the steering feel was. Good comparison though
@RSTube07
@RSTube07 8 жыл бұрын
As always great content Joe. Like you, I thought the gear change speed would affect more the distance between the two cars but after all it's quite even. And that EstorilBlue vs AlpineWhite, I mean , I am digging the more noticeable contrast between the black lower part in the back in the white version, but still I think these blue ones are awesome :) I am finally driving my lci with a manual, and that gear stick is stiff and vibrates as hell while idling. Gearbox on the jcw was way smoother but I guess it's because is still brand new. I have a question, not sure if it's stupid or not but well ... When you downshift, why do the revs go up without releasing the clutch pedal? I mean this is a first for me, so ieah quite surprised, doesn't give the chance to fix you messing up 5th to 2nd by mistake lol Take care mate
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+RSTube07 Cheers man, it was a relief to me because as fierce as my manual feels when pushed, I genuinely thought it would lose a couple of car lengths next to an auto... Glad you have your manual LCI, the box is massively stiff for the first 1000-1500 miles or so, mine is still very tight but improving day by day. My good buddy has a 2009 JCW and his manual is bloody magic, I don't think the 1's will ever match that unfortunately. I don't get any vibrations though? In that first clip I'm using the heel n toe technique to blip the revs before changing down, I have just about (finally) perfected it haha. Cheers man
@spursmanjon
@spursmanjon 8 жыл бұрын
Watching this made me miss home!
@michelleevans2324
@michelleevans2324 8 жыл бұрын
what a car! took delivery of my 2016 m135i auto, your videos made me buy one, enjoyable watching as usual!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Michelle Evans Cheers man, glad you have open too :-)
@ChuckFickens1972
@ChuckFickens1972 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, my last couple of cars have been a e46 330ci and then a r56 mini cooper s JCW which I'm now looking at changing and the M135 is one of the options very high on my list so this was a relevant video to me. wish you hadn't of dissed the Ford KA though... that's somebodies car and you should never criticise a person for what they choose to drive, I'm sure it meets their needs perfectly (and the KA is a fun little car)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Chuck Fickens I had a 330Ci too, great cars! Be interesting to hear your thoughts on M135 jumping from JCW, faster in a straight line for sure, but no better or fun to drive compared to the brilliant JCW. I know the owner of the Ka, you're right though I shouldn't have said that, it was more of a joke. Cheers Joe
@daveydecastro2228
@daveydecastro2228 8 жыл бұрын
Good job guys wish someone would do a video with the Lci AND a LSD im saving up for that but cant find alot of info on it
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+dAvey de castro Yeah I would love to try a LSD M135i, it doesn't suffer too much without one although I bet it would improve handling/balance lots...
@Supreme13R
@Supreme13R 8 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that great video, when i searched for my M135i i was looking for manual, but they are so rare here i could only find an auto, after driving manual cars all my life i have to say that i am definitely not disappointed that ZF8 works great.... keep em coming man.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Supreme13R Yeah many modern auto's these days are massive game changers, great that manuals are still available in such a modern and fast changing world... Cheers
@kp78686
@kp78686 2 жыл бұрын
I drive a M140i auto, although a manual would be fun on a track I can imagine it would be a bit of a handful on a damp public road... Then I'd be constantly worrying about the clutch 🤷🏻‍♂️
@AdamLondonHD
@AdamLondonHD 8 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to go and collect my 1 series manual but should be good, Nice video!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam London Cheers man, bet you're excited :-)
@SuperKoreanzombie
@SuperKoreanzombie 8 жыл бұрын
Adam London What engine u go for 114 or 135?
@AdamLondonHD
@AdamLondonHD 8 жыл бұрын
johnny g 116d manual
@AdamLondonHD
@AdamLondonHD 8 жыл бұрын
Joe Achilles So happy I got the car been driving it for a few weeks now, not really sure if i prefer the auto or not check the video out on my page! :)
@majditaleb4898
@majditaleb4898 7 жыл бұрын
I have just one question, I want to buys a bmw 520 d, but no idea about manual or automatic transmission. which is the best for you? I am afraid about the crack of the auto box. please help
@ABC28797
@ABC28797 7 жыл бұрын
stuck in the middle of a 125i/m135i or 3 series 325i/330i coupe/convertible ... 2012-2014 or even a 4 series any suggestions fuel wise, driving **reliability!..
@eliasevers9172
@eliasevers9172 8 жыл бұрын
Nice one again Joe! What trick did you pull at 21:20? Looks like a type of e-brake boosting ;-)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Haha cheers man! We were on a slight uphill, I held it on the handbrake until launch... 👍
@ibby.hussain_
@ibby.hussain_ 8 жыл бұрын
subbed mate, I'm looking for a 135 but an e82 model
@drbrowny90
@drbrowny90 8 жыл бұрын
another awesome video mate. my m135i is manual and my dad's m235i is the auto. because of the instant response and changes it still does well against my stage 2 m135i and I'm running nearly 100bhp and lbft more. cracking gearbox in sport but I find it useless as any auto around town in comfort. really not for me and I love the manual and how you actually have to drive the car.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Dan Brown Awesome man, wish my dad ran around in such a cool car haha. Glad you're another manual fan!
@marcustame9860
@marcustame9860 6 жыл бұрын
Joe, awesome video yet again. Quick question - I'm considering a pre-LCI M135i in the auto. Is it much behind the LCI (much difference) and are there any issues I should look out for? Thanks!
@ianjones3683
@ianjones3683 8 жыл бұрын
The 4 wheel drive in mine just launches with no wheelspin so i guess thats why i got better traction
@JayGee6996
@JayGee6996 6 жыл бұрын
The jump John gets will be the bluetooth delay in those drag races
@ShionHyrezUK
@ShionHyrezUK 8 жыл бұрын
The BMW auto box is so good. You will inevitably wish you had it if you drive the manual. You will feel more in touch with the car in the manual obviously but maaaaaan the auto box makes up for it hugely. Old BMW auto boxes were not so great but these days BMW is king for them I think. The M135i is hard to beat for its price tag. If you spend more you think you should have saved up for an M3 if you spend less you think I should be in straight 6 turbo not a 2 litre car and you arrive at wishing you got an M135i instead of a GTI or S3. It is not the best looking car but to me 10/10 for all the rest.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Agree re boxes... Looking at a M140i at the moment and have no idea which box to tick....
@ShionHyrezUK
@ShionHyrezUK 8 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm are you sure you don't just work for BMW Marketing! You seem to throw a lot of money on these cars :) M2 I understand but an M140i after just recently getting a facelift M135i wow dude.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
BMW have never answered the phone or any email of mine asking to borrow a car, I hate the fact I love BMW's so much... The Auto to Manual (Lci) swap cost me next to nothing, I'm only changing to the M140i if I can secure a similar trade in/out :-)
@jasontietnan5447
@jasontietnan5447 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 please buy a manual,we need (me) more 135i with manual in the 2bd hand market,great comparison,don't forget rewarding heel and toe ;-)
@baden4321
@baden4321 7 жыл бұрын
love the look kinda like the Ferrari ff style. very unique
@andyjackson9313
@andyjackson9313 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Your best video yet Joe. Great insight into both cars. You can't really say one is better than the other. Just depends what you use it for! 5 months in and I love my auto Estoril Blue 5 door!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Andy Jackson Cheers man :-) Glad you're loving you car!
@dazspurs9899
@dazspurs9899 6 жыл бұрын
I used to love manuals but now I’m getting on and lazy autos all the way
@orobori
@orobori 7 жыл бұрын
my first impression of the m140 auto vs manual is the auto seems so much faster ive compared it on a few straights i know well and it achieves a much higher speed over the same distance but its not as enjoyable in some ways, sports auto and sports mode are just plain crazy.
@mrnormalnormal
@mrnormalnormal 7 жыл бұрын
Why is the chrome grill only on the blue model? Id prefer black grill on blue
@lewisvincent7479
@lewisvincent7479 4 жыл бұрын
Looking to buy one of these and this exact car is currently for sale at Renault Enfield! Anything to be aware of?
@AnupC
@AnupC 8 жыл бұрын
Great videos Joe! One Q, can you not configure to have 'Comfort' suspension on the adaptive's while steering, throttle etc. in sport mode?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Anup Cheers man! - Yeah with the adaptive optioned car you can configure the Sport setting to activate only steering and throttle, leaving the suspension in comfort, probably the ideal setting for most of the UK! Joe
@AnupC
@AnupC 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles Awesome, love the car, would love to get one before BMW inevitably replace the current 1 series with a FWD replacement. I'll keep eyes out for your next Ace Cafe meet, I'm not too far from it myself
@kameronkelly2245
@kameronkelly2245 5 жыл бұрын
Joe what’s your fav all time beemer mate?
@peterhaworth3052
@peterhaworth3052 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, I've got an LCI manual and was surprised about how it likes revving out to the red line for a big turbo engine.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Haworth Yeah it really does love being revved out, unlike (years ago) I had a 2007 Focus ST 2.5 turbo that really didn't like going beyond about 5k revs, it ran out of puff. Glad to see another manual owner :-)
@Tautulis7
@Tautulis7 7 жыл бұрын
is this Sussex/Surrey near Gatwick?
@oliverney4709
@oliverney4709 8 жыл бұрын
Nice work on blurring the speedo Joe! 😂
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Oliver Ney Haha I don't know what you're talking about, must have been a shadow ;-)
@oliverney4709
@oliverney4709 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles convenient smudge on the screen possibly...😎🙃
@rainfella1
@rainfella1 8 жыл бұрын
The auto box is a dream,It costs more(£1600 approx) but worth every penny,also reflected in a 0-60 time of 4.9 secs
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+john boy The Auto will happily do 4.5 to 60, I have tested it many times, the manual is good for 4.7
@Aarontlondon
@Aarontlondon 5 жыл бұрын
Now that I have an auto on my 4 series I don't think I can ever go back to manual. They're so good these days, and they will make manual obsolete eventually
@pascalg1656
@pascalg1656 6 жыл бұрын
Shoutout Amersham crew!
@iantownsend5480
@iantownsend5480 8 жыл бұрын
I'd get the adapted dampers & I'd get the auto that's all I'd spec. I don't think you need any of the other stuff
@juskillz5229
@juskillz5229 4 жыл бұрын
Pro nav harman kardan duel climate Eletric seats the list goes on mate
@789ghost342ghost
@789ghost342ghost 2 жыл бұрын
Any auto Rev macthing with your manual transmission
@wadebeaumont5264
@wadebeaumont5264 8 жыл бұрын
Loved the comparison Joe. I've ordered a manual but it's a tough choice. After running back to back if you were buying another one today would you opt man or auto?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Wade Beaumont Cheers man. After the test I was still happier driving away in my manual, if/when (haha) I order an M2 I would get the auto, I would want the fastest box for when it eventually gets taken on track.
@wadebeaumont5264
@wadebeaumont5264 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles I almost ordered an M2 but was going to go the pure for the manual but for the money i felt the m135 was a bargain and couldn't go past it. M2 is next on the list however.
@CinemaUnited
@CinemaUnited 8 жыл бұрын
+Wade Beaumont resale value of an m2 will be better. So I think they are the same value for money in the end.
@Dankeller69
@Dankeller69 8 жыл бұрын
I was looking at one of these in Auto, but my only concern was when in paddle shift manual mode does it allow you to lean on the gear your in like a manual does or does it automatically change?
@ian7675
@ian7675 8 жыл бұрын
It will change gear using the paddles and stay in that gear for a short while but will revert back to auto mode again. You can also put it into manual mode which will hold the gear like you said. It's a very good gearbox on the BMW.
@M3UMH
@M3UMH 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe! Having now driven the cars back to back, if you were picking up a new one tomorrow would you go for auto or manual? The 135 I've put a deposit down on doesn't have active dampers and is well below my budget so I'm now thinking that is a must! Thanks again for sharing.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Holt Hey Mike I hope you're well! It really comes down to what you're using the car for mate, I love manuals but if I used my car to commute or sit in regular traffic I would have the auto any day. The only time I believe the manual shines is when your at 80% + on your favourite A/B road, the auto would probably be faster along the same stretch but the manual is more involving... I had two amazing years in my first M135i auto and loved every min, I just fancied a change I could find that in the same awesome packaging by opting for a manual. Before the back to back test I wouldn't have said adaptive sus was all its made out to be, now I cant stress enough how much better the adaptive dampers feel on reflection, call your dealer first thing and tick that box. Cheers Joe
@M3UMH
@M3UMH 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles thanks for the detailed reply, I'd sort of just taken what they had in stock rather than built one, I'm a little bit impatient and ideally want to pick one up by the end of this week but I'll certainly be asking around. What was the name of your chap? I'll give him a call in the morning, I'll make sure he knows where the business came from 👍 maybe he can lend you an m2 or 3 to review as you're plugging him! I think I'm going to stick with auto, I don't commute far less than 2 miles a day but I do love flappy paddles. I look forward to your next video.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Holt Yeah the Auto is the car for you then, you cant go wrong with the auto. Give Jordan a call at Chandlers Hailsham or Alex a call at Sytner High Whycome, he actually has a lovely un registered black on black 5 door auto in the showroom if that suits? please mention me and they will do best they can & continue to help me moving forward (as you say), I really want to get my hands on a M2 asap. Cheers
@M3UMH
@M3UMH 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles Thanks again Joe, I'll give them both a call today.
@M3UMH
@M3UMH 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles spoke with Jordan today, I'm taking a business lease so he couldn't help but did pass me over to his corporate dept, I can't find a 135i anywhere that's available for delivery, I've been offered a very good deal on a 640d grand coupe, have you ever driven one?
@famrue527
@famrue527 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe,Nice comparison between the auto and the manual. Around minute 15 you say its not a test to see wich is quicker,and 2 minutes later you Guys are dragracing them😋 We have to be honnest,we always ask ourself wich is the fastest,because we are car-guys😀 Me and my girlfriend orderd a 5door m135 in februari and it schould be available at the end of may. I did a testdrive with a m235 auto and i have to say they drive verry well,not a fan of auto cars at all (my currently daily car is a 520d touring auto from 2007)but i was plezantly surprised. But i always prefer a manual in a performance car,i think it connect you more with the car than an auto. So I orderd a manual m135 and i am trilled to discover how they drive and perform against the auto🤔 Keep the vids comming and greetings from Belgium 👍🏻
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+RUE5 EK4 Haha good point, boys will be boys i guess! Congratulations on the new car, bet you both cant wait!!! Glad we have another manual owner too man :-) Cheers Joe
@famrue527
@famrue527 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles i can not deny i al verry exited? My girlfriend has common feelings,she is afraid the boot of the m135 wil be to small. We have 2 little kids,thats why we need a 5door. I didnt take lether seats because i really like the standerd alcantara seats with te blue stitsches.and to be honest lether is to cold in the winter and to hot in the summer.but thats my personal opinion😉 My specs are: harman-kardon sound system,park distance control,heated seats,gps with info on the dasch and 40/20/40 back couch.and the colour is mineralgrau. I didnt take the adaptif suspension because i was thinking of installing a kw coillover set Some day. What are your thoughts about that? Greets
@Jsnwrd
@Jsnwrd 8 жыл бұрын
Are you sponsored by Costa? Aha. Great vid
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Haha I wish! Cheers man
@marcomarkproductions
@marcomarkproductions 5 жыл бұрын
8:54 ouch!
@tomallan2807
@tomallan2807 3 жыл бұрын
Mines not got heated seats but I will take the hk over a heated seat all day long
@nkosinathisitholejobe551
@nkosinathisitholejobe551 10 ай бұрын
You guys legit talking about speed as opposed to how much you can feel the car engagement between aut and manual. Yes auto is faster, but is it fun? Can you actually feel the car?
@ASW_TV
@ASW_TV 8 жыл бұрын
hmu for the Wales trip 😎
@Alteriukas
@Alteriukas 8 жыл бұрын
Why 3 door, not 5?
@MrSuperpharrel
@MrSuperpharrel 6 жыл бұрын
i ve the 140i xdrive but i can't feel the very pontentiality of my car... the next one surely MANUAL
@ilketama5982
@ilketama5982 8 жыл бұрын
11:42 its call footrest
@hammerjohnston
@hammerjohnston 8 жыл бұрын
FYI for your spec, search for a BMW VIN decoder and stick the last 7 digits of your VIN in :) Great video, currently have a 130i but will end up with one of these some day...
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Oh really, that's great to know!I had a 130 in 2006 and absolutely loved it, it was stolen after 8 months of ownership :-( Spent 7-8 years in various different cars until I found the M135 in 2013, basically a faster more rounded version of the awesome 130 👍
@hammerjohnston
@hammerjohnston 8 жыл бұрын
Nightmare! I love the 130 to bits. Do you ever find yourself missing the NA 6 cylinder?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
+Hammer Johnston After owning a ST and S3 I massively missed the N/A 6 pot from thr 130, the N55 (M135) is quite unbelievable in the way it happily revs to its red line, I think well made modern turbo engines somehow spin almost as cleanly as masterpieces like the 3 litre under your hood...Do wish BMW still made 6 pot N/A petrols though
@hammerjohnston
@hammerjohnston 8 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I went for the 130 tbh, to own one while I still could - If I'm not mistaken the N52 and the S65 V8 from the M3 were the last NA BMW engines ever made Thanks for your thoughts, will probably see you on BabyBMW at some point :D
@Springwater786
@Springwater786 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking I'm going to sell my fn2 type R and get one of these!
@jamessmith84240
@jamessmith84240 2 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded from an EP3 CTR to a M135 auto. I fucking love it. However if you ever felt like the Civic is a thirsty car, GET READY XD
@pristineclean977
@pristineclean977 8 жыл бұрын
Hi joe I am ordering a m140i and wondering on weather to go for auto or manual most of my driving is around town what is your opinion if you don't mind
@ian7675
@ian7675 8 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd go for the auto, I have it in my 3 series and it's brilliant. Also as a bonus the auto has less emissions so you may save on tax too if that's important to you.
@bsg2621
@bsg2621 7 жыл бұрын
ian7675 I have a manual in my 320d M Sport, I'd prefer it if you want more control over gear changes, and if you use it for only daily purposes and sometimes track days.
@bsg2621
@bsg2621 7 жыл бұрын
Also, I managed 45mpg while driving along the A1(M)
@uKzZzZmOdZzZz1
@uKzZzZmOdZzZz1 7 жыл бұрын
this is mine …….Vehicle options S1CA Selection of COP relevant vehicles S230 Extra package, EU-specific S258 Tire with run-flat functionality S2PA Wheel bolt retainer S2TB Sport automatic transmission S2VF Adaptive M suspension S302 Alarm system S3AG Reversing camera S3AP Windshield with grey wedge S403 Glass roof, electrical S420 Sun protection glazing S423 Floor mats, velours S428 Warning triangle and first aid kit S430 Interior/outside mirror with auto dip S431 Interior mirror with automatic-dip Vehicle options S459 Seat adjuster, electric, with memory S493 Storage compartment package S494 Seat heating driver/passenger S4AD Interior trim strips, alu, brushed, fine S4DL Accent strips, black, high-gloss S4NE Blow-by heater S4UK 5-seater S502 Headlight cleaning system S508 Park Distance Control (PDC) S521 Rain sensor S522 Xenon Light S524 Adaptive Headlights S534 Automatic air conditioning S544 Cruise control with brake function S563 Light package Vehicle options S575 Supplementary 12V sockets S5AC High-beam assistant S5DA Passenger airbag deactivation S5DC Rear-seat headrests, folding S5DP Park Assistent S609 Navigation system Professional S654 DAB tuner S674 Hi-Fi System Harman Kardon S698 Area-Code 2 for DVD S6AC Intelligent emergency SOS call S6AE Teleservices S6AK Connected Drive Services S6AM Real-Time Traffic Information S6AN Concierge Services S6AP Remote Services Vehicle options S6AR Internet S6FV Online Entertainment S6NR Apps S6NS Convenience phone, expanded Smartphone S6WA Instrument cluster, expanded equipment S6WA Instrument cluster, expanded equipment L812 National version England / Ireland S850 Dummy-SALAPA S880 On-board vehicle literature English S8KA Dummy-SALAPA S8S2 Coding alarm signal S8S3 Automatic locking when driving off S8SM Car ident. Number visible from outside S8TG Thief proofing device S8V1 Label Vehicle options S1CB CO2 package S249 Multifunction f steering wheel S2NH M Sport brakes S2PG BMW LA wheel M Double Spoke 436 S2VL Variable Sport steering S481 Sports seat S4AE Armrest front, retractable S710 M leather racing steering wheel S715 M Aerodynamics package S760 High gloss shadow line S775 Headlining anthracite S853 Language version English
@drufc
@drufc 8 жыл бұрын
I'm specking up an m135i at the moment. In the video you mentioned that the blue car has the harman kardon and the white has the bmw advanced. How much better is the hk if at all? Thanks.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Great to hear man 🖒 If you have the money and enjoy music the HK is worth the extra... Whatever you do sent get the bog standard system because it's rubbish! Cheers
@drufc
@drufc 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Achilles thanks for the reply. I am pretty into my music so I think I will go for it. Great video by the way.
@MarkD178
@MarkD178 8 жыл бұрын
How does the HK stereo compare to the standard one?
@ian7675
@ian7675 8 жыл бұрын
Miles better than standard.
@bilmohammed5577
@bilmohammed5577 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question how is the 2012 120d I mean it's got a big engine is it any fast...
@Mr330d
@Mr330d 3 жыл бұрын
380NM torque makes it very quick in gear
@bigdud88
@bigdud88 8 жыл бұрын
American here... just wondering what is percentage breakdown for which gearbox most of you choose over there for this car and BMWs in general? I read most people spec the higher priced luxury cars with autos or dct over in Europe.
@drufc
@drufc 8 жыл бұрын
I think the auto wins it 80 to 20 in the m135i. I still think more manual cars are purchased than autos in the uk.
@bigdud88
@bigdud88 8 жыл бұрын
+drufc ok thanks for the answer
@leighhhhhh1
@leighhhhhh1 8 жыл бұрын
What's you're reasoning behind choosing to have the model number removed?
@nedstarksbastard445
@nedstarksbastard445 5 жыл бұрын
Leigh Ryan alot of car thieves in u.k
@jayb7932
@jayb7932 4 жыл бұрын
25:59 what is going on with Johns eyes? 👀 😂
@ianjones3683
@ianjones3683 8 жыл бұрын
Had a race with a m135i against my 335d xdrive and had it off the mark up to about 60mph then the tables turned and it overtook me at about 80 they are little rockets great car sounded better too
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that sounds about right, I did lots of runs against a Alpina D3 recently, the D3 was fractionally quicker to 60, then the gap stayed constant... 👍
@joshuabelo8460
@joshuabelo8460 8 жыл бұрын
He launched that manual proper.
@-LK34-
@-LK34- 6 жыл бұрын
That gear change crunch made me cringe😆
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