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@jetty92487
@jetty92487 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Harley and Indian owner, I love my current R18 B. I was concerned with the foot position, but it has turned out to be a non issue. I'm 5'10" and I run out of fuel before my legs cramp up. Personally, this checked all the boxes of what I was looking for. There were things about the Harley and Indian that drove me to BMW and I'm glad I made the switch. I feel like this bike is a great option for anyone who's not married to the big 2 of American style cruisers.
@paritoshdesai
@paritoshdesai 2 ай бұрын
I’m 6’3” and I’m scared shitless that I’ll be the schmuck that finds out that it’s not a good bike for people my height. Thoughts?
@BartBRH
@BartBRH 2 жыл бұрын
Together with a buddy I rented two R18s from our local BMW dealer for a day and it was awesome. We turned a lot of necks on those things. I don't think a single biker passed us without giving a compliment that day. The R18 is an absolute eye-catcher.
@stevehamm8289
@stevehamm8289 3 жыл бұрын
I own one and I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've ridden it from full until empty 3 times a day and feel fine. The seating position is actually not bad at all. Wind noise sucks, but I've yet to ride anything other than an RT, where it doesn't.
@feloniousmonk3049
@feloniousmonk3049 Жыл бұрын
What is your inseam length... I'm 6' 5" 36" inseam... dutch. Which model and which seat did you go with? Aftermarket seat?
@sergentcolon1
@sergentcolon1 3 жыл бұрын
The reviews I’ve seen from people who have actually ridden it, loved it.
@robinator3202
@robinator3202 3 жыл бұрын
I rode it yesterday and can say I fell in love with it. It is definitely an old school feel with lots of torque. I rode some twisties and the highway and smiled all the way.
@krachenford9594
@krachenford9594 4 жыл бұрын
This bike will sell, it looks weird and it is expensive. There are enough lawyers and dentists out there.
@christopherlococo2483
@christopherlococo2483 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@notasheep5905
@notasheep5905 4 жыл бұрын
40 k it not bad
@henryhartley9993
@henryhartley9993 4 жыл бұрын
Same lawyers and dentists who buy overpriced Harleys!
@ericellquist7007
@ericellquist7007 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the proctologists... They gotta love a shitty looking bike.
@keyboard-commentator
@keyboard-commentator 4 жыл бұрын
it's funny the guy that made this video is obviously outside of their demographic and realizes it. i think he underestimates the older aged motorcycle market. those are the people buying brand new bikes, they're the ones with the money to buy brand new bikes. yeah, people in their 20s don't want this bike, but they're prob not the majority of people buying new bikes anyway. it's the same story for sports cars. most fans of them are in their 20s, but they're also not the ones buying them brand new. so it's hard for car companies to build them cars if they're not willing to shell out the cash to buy one new. they want them used and cheap so they can modify them. it's a weird dilemma in the bike/car industry. lots of enthusiasts with loud opinions, but not really able to support the companies that build the sporty bike/cars they demand.
@checkadam42
@checkadam42 4 жыл бұрын
There's one demographic you forgot about: The old guys who have 6-12 of the old 50's, 60's and 70's air-cooled BMWs sitting in various states of disrepair in their garages/barns and think this bike hits just the right nostalgia buttons while also not breaking down on them every time the want to ride across the state.
@steeveedee8478
@steeveedee8478 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are bang on. For people with cash who love the look of older bikes but are well aware of just how problematic they can be. Solution - new tech with old look. Some will hate it but I like it. There are a lot of BMW boxer fans out there.
@checkadam42
@checkadam42 4 жыл бұрын
@A SJ I suspect you're right.
@nodnarbswenson
@nodnarbswenson 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the narrator is annoying..
@petermilsom1109
@petermilsom1109 4 жыл бұрын
i used to have a BMW R80/7. What happened to all the smaller boxer twins? I don't care about how fast it is, or if it out-Harleys Harley, but I do want something that I can manage, and not too cramped (I am 6' 3", 34 inseam, and my knees and back aren't what they used to be). Yeah, I used to ride 8 hours plus in a stretch, stopping only for fuel, in all weathers. But now I am more of a "nice day for a ride" type of guy. Now I am in my mid-50's, I get that nostalgia for a modern "old" bike. And to be honest, my budget is the most it has ever been (being a tail-end Boomer has its perks). But I want one much more like a modernised R5, not some bloated-mobile like an R18.
@bmp72
@bmp72 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget, guys like that like it when the bike brakes down as it gives m stuff to do (talking bout my dad here with his R27s and R35)...
@safina7006
@safina7006 3 жыл бұрын
I like my R18 classic, I am 5 feet 10 inch, on long trips if I set back on the seat there is no problem. the massive amount of torque is like having a new form of turn help. This and setting much lower going down the road. I feel much more secure. The turning radius in a parking lot is wide. I have a 1200cc HD sportster and the big difference is with the sportster it was always vibrating parts loose or breaking down costing me money in 3 years. When at a stop sign i was on my toes, when in a turn i felt i was on a unicycle compared to the R18 that hugs the turn.
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 2 жыл бұрын
How's your 1-year test review? I heard resale on them is not very good.
@marekhlavackovi3677
@marekhlavackovi3677 4 жыл бұрын
“Putting strawberry jam on a burger or sugar on your fries” Americans: am I a joke to you
@blairbrown4812
@blairbrown4812 3 жыл бұрын
Cherry preserves,maybe. What? 😳 I love 🍒....
@williamirwin4154
@williamirwin4154 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because it's true. Sugar on fries sounds fantastic.
@blairbrown4812
@blairbrown4812 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamirwin4154🤔 cinnamon sugar 😋 or honey BBQ or mustard 😋 And I make my burgers with Thomas' cinnamon raisin English Muffins. Adds some sweetness to it.
@DerangedResponse
@DerangedResponse 3 жыл бұрын
A Joke? No. A little strange? Yeah. But hey. If it works for you, that's all that matters. I like catsup with scrambled eggs Some people here dip their fries in milk shakes. But so long as you use real sugar and not that imitation sugar you should be OK.
@alsautner1732
@alsautner1732 4 жыл бұрын
I really like it. I will buy one used in two years...Love the look.
@shivajesus
@shivajesus 4 жыл бұрын
Even in two years it will look good, but who cares about cost or leg position when they installed a 91HP boat anchor where a motor should go. They get 136HP out of a 1250 twin this should have more like 125HP and over 150#ft or it should just stay home.
@DankoStojanovic
@DankoStojanovic 4 жыл бұрын
I like it. I will probably never buy one because of the price
@steeveedee8478
@steeveedee8478 4 жыл бұрын
I love it too.
@mechcam796
@mechcam796 4 жыл бұрын
I would buy a used one too if they are reliable. As long as it fits me that is.
@wickedtwix
@wickedtwix 4 жыл бұрын
@@shivajesus well to get the torque up to 160 Nm they had to use a long stroke. So comparing the r 1250 with this is not viable as the torque is not near the figures of the R18. Cruiser riders care about Torque first an then they want a large heavy bike 😂. Horsepower is not even stated by Harley on their Website and a 280 kg Sportster is called a girls bike.
@fetishtranny
@fetishtranny 4 жыл бұрын
Probably will be ending up one of the most expensive and sought after bikes.
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 4 жыл бұрын
IT WONT
@nortoncommando770
@nortoncommando770 4 жыл бұрын
No it won't, only to deluded crap bike fans.
@BarnettMotorsport
@BarnettMotorsport 3 жыл бұрын
@@nortoncommando770 Crap! haha says the Norton guy hahahaha
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 3 жыл бұрын
Collectors Will eventually collect it because its " Rare!" Witch is Another way of Saying Nobody Wanted It. But I Do Appreciate BMW'S Efforts. Best Wishes! M.H.
@MrRodwatson
@MrRodwatson 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehagan4320 exactly right. in a few years when BMW stops producing it and people begin talking about it in that nostalgic way people do....then it will be cool.....rare, and collectable. -it will remain expensive
@Evolution_Kills
@Evolution_Kills 4 жыл бұрын
Honda: Check out the Valkyrie Rune! BMW: Hold my beer...
@wickedleeloopy2115
@wickedleeloopy2115 4 жыл бұрын
I would still rather a rocket 3.
@CrixyM
@CrixyM 4 жыл бұрын
Then BMW spills it.
@DerangedResponse
@DerangedResponse 3 жыл бұрын
ehh. think I'll stick with my Valkyrie. I've seen this beemer and it really looks good, but... yeah. Anyways, You know if you buy it brand new, you get a cap, some tank badges and a coffee table book along with a pair of white gloves!
@russellborn515
@russellborn515 4 жыл бұрын
Just one quibble: I've had a burger with peanut butter and jelly on it, and it was surprisingly tasty.
@wickedcoolname399
@wickedcoolname399 4 жыл бұрын
Try a slice of pineapple and some bbq sauce on your next burger.
@Audiforsale3494
@Audiforsale3494 4 жыл бұрын
Man I love the look of this thing
@davidturner7590
@davidturner7590 4 жыл бұрын
It may not be relevant, but I seem to remember a lot of people who thought the R9T would be a flop when it was first out.
@nikos-giorgos
@nikos-giorgos 4 жыл бұрын
Or the gs line!
@Baldhills
@Baldhills 4 жыл бұрын
I would buy an R9T but not this bike.The R9T sits higher, and is such less leg cramped. I applaud BMW for making this bike, but at 6’2” when it’s hot and my legs bunched up (No Way). I ride a K1600GT.
@MrMandelsohn
@MrMandelsohn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Baldhills I'm 6'3 and sat on one. Very comfortable.
@tomsnider7611
@tomsnider7611 4 ай бұрын
I'M 6' and 235 with a 36 inseam. I have no issue on mine and the cylinders do not put out the heat like Harley pipes do. The moving air and the routing of the pipes keep you cooler.
@AkulaSpawn
@AkulaSpawn 4 жыл бұрын
My buddies BMW spent more time in the shop then on the road. Very expensive bikes to fix and good luck finding dealers close by on a long trip.
@meganturtle9896
@meganturtle9896 3 жыл бұрын
I own an R1200c and love it . For my 50th in December I’m getting the R 18. I see your point but I’m 5’8”! Very comfortable for my size Test ride was AMAZING
@elekkr
@elekkr 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to pick one of these up for $5K in two years time
@thomascanfield8571
@thomascanfield8571 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what I say keep on putting it down I can always get different pipes
@paulkmaster3231
@paulkmaster3231 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
As much as these cost new I believe your going to have to wait a lot longer than two years to get one of these for 5k
@paulkmaster3231
@paulkmaster3231 4 жыл бұрын
jimthvac100 yeah I think your right 👍 they will still be sitting on the showroom floor for 2 years or more with no takers. Someone has to buy them first to enter the used bike market.
@jerryvelasco1474
@jerryvelasco1474 4 жыл бұрын
I believe at least one white collar money bags will pick one up. Drop the moto and it'll be on sale. But flock, at least one side jugs are going to be flock flocked.
@ronaldwhiting371
@ronaldwhiting371 4 жыл бұрын
I pre-ordered one.
@steeveedee8478
@steeveedee8478 4 жыл бұрын
Probably turn out to be a good investment.
@robinator3202
@robinator3202 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@ronaldwhiting371
@ronaldwhiting371 3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Rebellion I'm a Postal Worker
@johnford5568
@johnford5568 4 жыл бұрын
Over the years, worked up to 1800cc and 900 lbs, now I'm back down to a 750cc and 500 lbs, what a relief! Also, as the body and streets get older, having feet under you turns your legs into 2 additional shock absorbers and keeping your back and core engaged will extend your riding career.
@PC-xr2po
@PC-xr2po 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that John! ...Like this machine but 800# is just too heavy, even with a reverse...
@hugo_then_i_go
@hugo_then_i_go Жыл бұрын
DISAGREE. Valid points, but I ultimately disagree. I am 6' 3" (1.9m) and 230 lbs (104kg), and I have been riding mid-controls exclusively for the better part of the last decade. FXDLS all day. I LOVE mid-controls. I am able to adjust my weight easier because my feet are under me, I feel that I have better control of my bike, and I feel that I can be way more aggressive than if I had forward controls. Granted, on long cross-country rides, having mids sucks on a cruiser, but that's where my highways bars (engine guard) come to the rescue. But in town, in the twisties, or basically anywhere other than extended highway riding, mids are far superior. So I disagree with your argument against the R18 having mid-controls. The fact that it does, is what has piqued my interest as a buyer. The pipes, on the other hand, are outrageous. I'm with you there. But that's why you go hit a custom shop and swap your pipes. Usually, that's custom part numero uno for any rider, so I see that as a non-issue. The market clientele for this bike is cruiser riders that want something different; riders that want a bike with exquisite styling that isn't seen everywhere. Practicality matters, but style reigns supreme. In other words... fashion is pain. and rule number is: Look Cool.
@brickclickcat2893
@brickclickcat2893 4 жыл бұрын
So u think you're smarter than BMW's marketing people and their consultants? Seriously, this probably wasn't meant to be high volume bike, and dudes with money who like nice toys and like bikes will buy enough of them
@ossa60
@ossa60 4 жыл бұрын
again...if you want a CRUISER and want to CRUISE with your legs the way YOU CAN on harleys or indians, then where will you put them with those cilinders sticking out in front of your knees?? That's a bike which will surprise many cruiser riders for it's stupidity. And that alone is a very good reason for not buying something that limits rider's choices.
@brickclickcat2893
@brickclickcat2893 4 жыл бұрын
@@ossa60 well, if you want all that, don't get this one. If you just want to look cool on a good looking bnw, get this one
@dieselgrandpa4181
@dieselgrandpa4181 4 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful motorcycle, I would totally buy that. 👍🏻
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 4 жыл бұрын
YOU suit your name.Only joking,I`m 73 and have a diesel car,a BMW R Nine T and Buell xb,so I like the unusual,but I wouldnt buy the R18.Stay safe stay ridin`
@kelcastle7645
@kelcastle7645 3 жыл бұрын
I'd buy that for a dollar! Hahahaha
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 3 жыл бұрын
No, you would not buy that. And you will not.
@nickbenfell4327
@nickbenfell4327 3 жыл бұрын
It is utterly horrible looking
@Vylin1
@Vylin1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm buying the BMW R 18. I also think you're 100% correct. I've owned only Suzuki V-Stroms previously, purchased my 2008 V-Strom 650 lightly used at 18 years old, and upgraded to the liter back in 2015, also used. I come from that Florida Harley family that you quite aptly described, so I was always the odd man out. I've been contemplating a cruiser for a few years now, having grown tired of my well performing, reliable, and frankly rather ugly bike (although I love it). Harley's didn't interest me much (with the exception of the Livewire - but I'll wait until that market is more mature). Indian almost drew me in, but something about them always seemed a bit... off. I can say with all honesty that the R 18 has kindled an excitement in me that a new bike hasn't done in... well... ever. I know it'll have a horrible turn radius. I know I could get far more bang for my buck elsewhere. Heck, I've ridden V-Stroms for the past 13 years! I'm the exact opposite customer they're looking for! But, what can I say? The R 18 excites me, and I can't really describe why: all I can say is that I accept that you're right. And that I'm going to buy one anyway! Maybe it's because I'm short. Ha! Thanks for the thoughts and I love you vids :)
@paulmarcellus8409
@paulmarcellus8409 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how it will handle with the 21 inch front wheel?? I think the Rocktane may have nailed it!
@theochrist9453
@theochrist9453 4 жыл бұрын
if Siegfried would drive a bike to the dragon's lair to save his beloved Brunhilde,....This would be the bike !
@felipedourado5721
@felipedourado5721 4 жыл бұрын
So now we know the market place of this bike! It's meant to be ridden for those who love Wagner's work! It would also be funny as hell to see a bunch of bikers dressed as Valkyrias on their cavalcade on the road! 😅😅😅😅😅😅 Don't get me wrong, it's only a joke. Peace from Brazil. ✌
@mdc503
@mdc503 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the “outside a Starbucks” comment. So true.
@deadlyapollo
@deadlyapollo 4 жыл бұрын
The Nine T was a throwback and it became their best selling model for a bit before the GS series caught back up. They will sell. Hipsters eat this up
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 2 жыл бұрын
Nope looks like the hipsters didn't jump on this one.
@killpilger
@killpilger 4 жыл бұрын
"Softtail lowrider - a beautiful bike" - LOL
@MotorcycleDiaryinUSA
@MotorcycleDiaryinUSA 2 жыл бұрын
You got the point. However the fact that not everyone is going after, it’s beautiful to look at and it’s a BMW, I bought one and I LOVE it! My other bike is HD Street glide special but the beemer is much more fun to ride.
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 4 жыл бұрын
You're probably right about this being a piece of art. One condition for art is it does not serve a purpose. Art exists outside of usefulness. So yes, it's art! They'll sell into collections.
@seth_5394
@seth_5394 3 жыл бұрын
Not to discount your intent as I understand it or to refute your point, but “fine art” is art which does not serve purpose outside of aesthetics. Art certainly does serve a functional purpose. This is why crafters of all sorts are called artisans. Some my not like particular aspects of this bikes functionality such as seating position, but some will. Regardless, it’s stunningly beautiful!
@aaronschulz9896
@aaronschulz9896 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the look, and obviously the Sound (boxer ❤️). Would choose this over a HD.
@sterling6860
@sterling6860 4 жыл бұрын
BMW means Bring My Wallet,,I have been working on BMW cars for years,,good for the first 4 years then they are plagued with electrical problems,,I know so many people who hate the bloody things,,even the dealerships cant fix them.
@brucewalker5890
@brucewalker5890 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think this guy has actually ridden one. The problem with forward controls is that every bump is transmitted directly to your spine - very smooth roads are required. The lower the seat then the more likely the spinal damage. I love Harleys but the heat coming out of that rear cylinder fries your inner thighs on hot days and in slow traffic. This R18 looks sensational. Nice to sit on I found but too heavy for me. It seems they’re not moving from the dealers so there may be some bargains around.
@smrtn2441
@smrtn2441 4 жыл бұрын
I think this bike is a promising platform for modification. Also, new products are always a risk. Wait and see.
@johngillon6969
@johngillon6969 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 1975 R60 because it is simple easy to work on, tho you don't have to work on it cause it is so well engineered. Also if it tips over, i don't have to get someone to help me pick it up. I don't think i will ever get another motorcycle. the new bmws are beautiful, but i am happy with what i got.
@white_devil73
@white_devil73 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty, but the huge cylinder heads directly in front of your shins might be a bad thing. Not to mention cooking them while riding. Oh, and it's not a Harley.
@lubomirkotik8870
@lubomirkotik8870 4 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. I would love to have one. :-)
@gettinsomewind6384
@gettinsomewind6384 4 жыл бұрын
They already sold out on their website, well, at the dealership near me. I think it's a very nice bike, with its own unique character. BMW has their own style, and that bike will be on the biker scene, for sure!
@russellparratt9859
@russellparratt9859 4 жыл бұрын
If I was in the market for a motorbike, I'd buy a Triumph T120. Plenty of power, seats two, classic design with modern technology.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 жыл бұрын
And it's a Triumph
@rabukan5842
@rabukan5842 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 2022 Triumph Speedmaster LE. It is also a work of art and a beautiful riding machine for a lot less cost than either a basic cruising Harley or this BMW. 1200cc’s is about all I need. If I want more power, I’d buy the Rocket III and put it in sport mode if I want to cruise to the moon...
@waydegardner7373
@waydegardner7373 2 жыл бұрын
I love the T120. The BMW fit me better and ultimately cost me about $500 more after BMW incentives.
@rabukan5842
@rabukan5842 2 жыл бұрын
@@waydegardner7373 Yes, I'm 5'7, and the Triumph fits me like a glove, but I can see someone taller going for the R18. Enjoy!
@donaldrathjen4169
@donaldrathjen4169 2 жыл бұрын
I fell in love at first sight. I bought it without a test ride. I’ve had a lot of Harleys but this is the best so far. I am 6.1” with a 32” inseam. I did replace the seat with a heated Corbin that made a big difference in comfort.
@robertjurkovic
@robertjurkovic 3 жыл бұрын
If I have that amount of money, I would buy it as a second bike! Looks great and so comfortable to ride...
@Johnnybananass-_
@Johnnybananass-_ 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe their trying to tap into the Triumph Bobber success over the Harley cruiser failures of late.
@davidspringer6883
@davidspringer6883 4 жыл бұрын
perfect platform for a sidecar, reverse gear , nice job...
@jeffharper410
@jeffharper410 3 жыл бұрын
Yah, you can mount it to the head.
@andysmith-ne1qs
@andysmith-ne1qs Ай бұрын
Some people can t stand the notion of owning something that isn’t popular , for others that s the major attraction.
@metroid2
@metroid2 4 жыл бұрын
Im no German, but as an Austrian I feel that I am in a position to say that your pronounciation is actually rather good.
@paritoshdesai
@paritoshdesai 2 ай бұрын
😅
@Bob-Maplethorpe
@Bob-Maplethorpe 4 жыл бұрын
Your last point is the most important one. I saw it in Toronto and just couldn't tear my eyes away. The bike is for people who are loaded and want shortish rides on on 2 wheeled porn!
@DifferentSpokesTV
@DifferentSpokesTV 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha. Great way to put it.
@dagooglenet
@dagooglenet 4 жыл бұрын
It's starting from 20K, Harleys are even more.... Which one is not loaded ?? CBR125?? lol
@kensnyder3293
@kensnyder3293 4 жыл бұрын
Wings? It’s a Boxer dude!
@ElCapitan12
@ElCapitan12 2 жыл бұрын
I tried hard to like it, but his comments are spot on, I can't get used to the lack of forward controls and the inability to move ones foot forward or move around on the boards. I think after a 3 hr ride you would be locked up. Sad deal as it is a nice bike with loads of tech, but the Moto Co has nothing to worry about, they have boards w/ forward controls.
@Marc1973Dez
@Marc1973Dez 4 жыл бұрын
WOW..at 7:25 ...take a look on how those legs are super flexed downward / backwards. How long one can stay on that position???
@tolga1cool
@tolga1cool 4 жыл бұрын
You'll manage till you reach Starbucks lol Jokes aside, that is the "bobber" type seat that you can buy as an extra. The regular one has a more normal seating position
@Satans_Redneck
@Satans_Redneck 3 жыл бұрын
looks like the same riding position as my 80s goldwing
@moosey62
@moosey62 4 жыл бұрын
Looks beautiful! I'd buy one.
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you're happy you didn't buy one now.
@moosey62
@moosey62 2 жыл бұрын
True. I was pretty drunk when I wrote that.
@hellohun7331
@hellohun7331 4 жыл бұрын
There is part of me that doesn't like the cylinder heads being the first think to hit the pavement if it goes over.
@jesusantoniososaherrera2217
@jesusantoniososaherrera2217 2 жыл бұрын
aftermarket crash bars
@bobsyeruncle4841
@bobsyeruncle4841 4 жыл бұрын
niche premium beautifully made and i want one ( 66 year old delinquent.)
@danielsullivanbooks4386
@danielsullivanbooks4386 2 жыл бұрын
It's a beauty. Decent riding bike, and a real head turner. The make a lot of accessories for it too, so you can really personalize it.
@NME073
@NME073 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna be expensive! But it is beautiful....
@traviswrigg5158
@traviswrigg5158 4 жыл бұрын
This feels like they went through the whole process of bringing it to manufacture and got it to the point where it was too late to go back before someone put a rider on it and they realized "We've made a terrible mistake"
@interman7715
@interman7715 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Lockheed with the F35 .
@puggynator
@puggynator 2 жыл бұрын
They started the project in 2016 and it did better than planned. They are still developing and creating new model types. At least that's what one of the developing engineers said when he was holding a Lecture at our uni...
@bytestream
@bytestream 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that can't be changed is the foot controls, unless you fit the optional Weber leg roasting trays above the cylinders. The build quality looks exceptional, as you would expect. I think it would be fine for a weekend ride with your buddies not far out of town, and not wanting to cross a continent on it. It will get plenty of looks and comments from people out the front of a cafe on Saturday morning, that alone is enough to sell bikes in some cases. I wouldn't buy one, but I can see the appeal in it and would love to study one parked somewhere, each to their own I guess. That's what makes motorcycling fun.
@ciddax754
@ciddax754 4 жыл бұрын
There is a law in germany you need a reverse gear above a specific weight. About the FW 190 designed by Kurt Tank: The liquid cooled engines outperformed the radial engine. But you don't have an coolant system, which is important as those are pretty vulnerable and can't be armored. Furthermore Tank used electric wires and servos instead of a hydraulic system for the control surfaces. That system was much tougher when taking damage.
@toml1446
@toml1446 4 жыл бұрын
heres the issue I see with them trying to snag the cruiser market. You cant put your feet forward for more cruising comforts.
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
No one: BMW: Remember the r1200c? People liked that, right... right? In all honestly I absolutely love it though 😂
@DeserteagleS71
@DeserteagleS71 4 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing. i bought one of those a week ago.
@mausplan3890
@mausplan3890 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeserteagleS71 I'm jealous , I like them also and in OZ the price is rising and good ones are scare. However the Rune is dog, unloved and horrible to ride unless you were shaped like a gorilla . Think this Bimmer might be another Rune.
@mingonmongo1
@mingonmongo1 4 жыл бұрын
Was thinkin' the same comparison. Of course that was only produced from '97 to 2000 'cuz it never caught on either, despite marketing by 'James Bond'... that is until now, 20 years later where it's become a 'collectible'.
@AceRph
@AceRph 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't sell very well, but had the best sounding stock exhaust system on any BMW of that time. They made nice looking sidecar tugs, too.
@wickedleeloopy2115
@wickedleeloopy2115 4 жыл бұрын
Only James bond rode one. Apparently they don't handle well at all.
@TM-hm8ep
@TM-hm8ep 4 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful bike in the world was the concept. This final product is just banal.
@Cerebrum72
@Cerebrum72 4 жыл бұрын
TM I agree with you. The final product is a big Disappointment
@alejandrodeuruguay7357
@alejandrodeuruguay7357 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, this bike has no rock and roll.
@zf4hp24
@zf4hp24 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Exactly. What the hell happened? That last Concept was gorgeous.
@martycech5844
@martycech5844 4 жыл бұрын
Mark out West ... Accountants
@ManoNegraCG
@ManoNegraCG 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally agree! The concept was stunning. The one on sale now is just ... meh.
@ufohunter1805
@ufohunter1805 2 жыл бұрын
BMW is just developing this machine, great start in the BMW market ! An old saying ( Different Strokes for Different Folks ) BMW will survive , not sure if different spokes will ?
@jessebalboa4717
@jessebalboa4717 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I head into my local BMW dealer, another R18 appears alongside the others that appeared before. They must have 8 of them in there. Maybe it’s just this Texas market, but I tend to agree with this reviewer - a beautiful bike that would be a fantastic museum piece or an interesting adornment in an office lobby.
@jeanettewest
@jeanettewest 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! "Gynecological exam chair", priceless, you have no idea! :)
@DifferentSpokesTV
@DifferentSpokesTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It’s nice to be appreciated :)
@gunthernussmuller4863
@gunthernussmuller4863 4 жыл бұрын
the cylinders will heat up your hollow of the knees like "Bratwürstel" !!
@georgen6882
@georgen6882 4 жыл бұрын
There will be aftermarket exhaust systems and other stuff to customize your bimmer bike
@jamesgibson2950
@jamesgibson2950 Жыл бұрын
I sat on the R18Bagger in the dealership and fell in love instantly ( all blacked out ). I am 5.5 and could flat foot comfortably so I traded my Harley street Glide. They had a super deal for me.. When I picked it up on a Friday and drove it home i was upset because I hated it. By Saturday I had learned to ride it properly (shift changes and Braking) and made it fit me and I started to like it. By Sunday I was I love with it and so Happy.. I drove 4 hours straight and found I had no aches and pains because of the riding position. Turns out, putting your feet up , rounds the back and creates pain.. The mistake I made was expecting it to be a Harley Its not! The Fit and finish is amazing.. The handling is far beyond my Harley once you get comfortable.. The Marshall sound system is great.. the screen works Spotify and maps fantastically.. Fuel Mileage is in the mid 50's (54 ish Canada ,47 ish USA).. I got a 6 year unltd mileage full warranty. I got features I couldn't even get on a Harley at 10 k more. The boxer engine is nearly 100 years old and this bike is a celebration of the "R" series from the 20's and 30's BMW is not interested in stealing Harley customers, they are celebrating their own heritage.....I am 64 and have owned 58 bikes of all brands and styles . BMW sales are up 21% with the R series responsible for half that upswing. When I go to a coffee shop where there is lots of Harley guys , out of a group of 10, 2 will come over and ask questions and the rest will cross their arms and grumble.... Hilarious!! So.. I am very happy with my Bagger and I am very happy to have something different .
@larunaaxthemischievous9762
@larunaaxthemischievous9762 4 жыл бұрын
Its gonna be a gamble of which bike is gonna sell worse, the Harley Pan America or the BMW R18
@motorman857
@motorman857 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely. People who like the style of traditional American heavy weight motorcycles buy Harley's and Indians. People who like Harley's style but won't pay the big bucks for one or can't afford one, buy cheaper Japanese Harley look alikes. BMW tried to make a cruiser with the R1200 C from 97 to 2004. Though it did not look anything like a Harley, It was a total failure. I just don't see the market for the R-18.
@DerangedResponse
@DerangedResponse 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this bike in person, but didn't ride it. I like this bike, but I'm weird and have a thing for boxer motors. That being said, I don't see sales of this bike going anywhere either. Motorcycling in general is in decline and cruisers in particular seem to be the hardest hit. That's too bad too. If you want something laid back and cool but tired of the same ol same ol v-twin, this bike would fit that bill And it's price tag is pretty much in Harley territory. I think I'll wait til I see them used.
@mrbadguysan
@mrbadguysan 3 жыл бұрын
"That's a small crowd of people." Dude, that's all of China.
@aleanarobins2651
@aleanarobins2651 Жыл бұрын
I am 5'5" and I love mine. Yeah, I am a small person and this bike is a blast to ride. It feels like an old-time bike as you look over the handlebars. No one EVER will like every bike or every feature. Find what fits you as a style and power. I have owned over 20 bikes now I did not pay more than a Harley. He is right but it is a rolling piece of art. It will never outsell a Harley but I don't think it was meant to.
@Chuck1798
@Chuck1798 4 жыл бұрын
Best bike ever created
@theyorganics
@theyorganics 2 жыл бұрын
Well, their sales are extremely good especially in US. This is by far the highest quality cruiser/bobber in the market now :)
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close to Harley-Davidson sales.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 Жыл бұрын
​@@wrongthinker350 doesn't matter. This video said they wont sell any at all wich is not true. They actually sell well unlike what this video says.
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 Жыл бұрын
@@lexburen5932 I'll have to take your word for it as I've never seen one. Only Harleys where I live.
@eddielopez7272
@eddielopez7272 Жыл бұрын
@@wrongthinker350 you are right on the sales BUT, HARLEYS ARE NOT RELIABLE MOTORCYCLES , THEY BROKE DOWN A LOT AND SERVICE IS EXPENSIVE CAUSE EVERY OIL CHANGE THEY HAVE TO CHECK AND TIGHTEN NUTS AND BOLTS.
@wrongthinker350
@wrongthinker350 Жыл бұрын
@@eddielopez7272 you know nothing about Harley-Davidson I've owned three of them they're incredibly reliable motorcycles. You want an unreliable bike buy a BMW. Good luck with your purchase.
@MrDaveNorton
@MrDaveNorton 4 жыл бұрын
There was a motorcycle journalist here in Oz in the '80s who had an R75/5 with fishtail pipes on it, just to upset the purists.
@larrynorsworthy8582
@larrynorsworthy8582 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Oz?
@robertfischer380
@robertfischer380 3 жыл бұрын
To answer the question...... why BMW? THE ROLLS ROYCE OF MOTORCYCLES!
@patjakker6730
@patjakker6730 3 жыл бұрын
Great cars but they won't sell because of there bad drifting and power sliding properties 😉
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 4 жыл бұрын
Sugar on fries is a thing btw. No dipped, but shaken onto, much like how you put chicken wings into some aluminum foil then pour on that wing sauce and toss the chicken, So yeah, sugar fries are a thing and there's a proper version of this called Sopapilla , a Spanish dessert it's bread that becomes hollow by frying the dough, then put an ounce of sugar in a brown sandwich bag, drop in the Sopapillas still hit and with a little oil on them, boom, sugary bread.
@christucker7688
@christucker7688 4 жыл бұрын
They sold about 500 with in the first hour. I ordered one with in the first 60 seconds of when the order bank opened, my good friend tried to order his 45 minutes later and the BMW Websight indicated the first edition was sold out. I feel that you might be wrong. As they say, 'There's a ass for every seat'...
@DifferentSpokesTV
@DifferentSpokesTV 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you’re right. I hope for BMW’s sake that they have a hit here. But in fairness, most new models sell out initially. I have a deposit down on one of the First Yamaha Tenere 700s to hit Canadian shores. The test will be in two years when the newness wears off. Maybe it will lure some of the cruiser crowd over. Either way, you got a good bike. I’m sure it will outhandle the Harleys.
@christucker7688
@christucker7688 4 жыл бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV There sure is a lot of attention, videos and interests on this bike. I guess we will see.
@Unknown-bv7lv
@Unknown-bv7lv 4 жыл бұрын
An Ass for every seat . Hilarious
@robertdavis5714
@robertdavis5714 4 жыл бұрын
Well done sir, I LOVE THIS MOTORCYCLE.even the exhaust. As stated..............work of Art.
@DifferentSpokesTV
@DifferentSpokesTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@dominee93
@dominee93 4 жыл бұрын
Understandable I only see positivities and something different to a Harley and an GS 👌👌
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 4 жыл бұрын
If you like art , buy a picture , or sculpture.Bikes are built to ride.
@dhc8guru
@dhc8guru 3 ай бұрын
I bought an R18 Roctane. It’s very comfortable with the floorboards. Don’t miss forward controls. Reaching the brake pedal is an issue but also a non-issue since the brakes electronically are linked.
@Victor-ej5ie
@Victor-ej5ie 2 ай бұрын
Dreambike❤
@mikeromanoski9354
@mikeromanoski9354 7 ай бұрын
I bought an R18 100 year edition this year, got a great discount on it. I absolutely love how it rides and the power it has. It also turns a lot of heads when out on the streets. The riding position seems odd, but once riding it I was very comfortable and I am 6' 1". Will it sell in the US? Probably not in large numbers like you said however it may do a little better than you think once people start riding it.
@michaelfinck6945
@michaelfinck6945 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaa, this was pretty interesting, especially the assumptions from you being a marketing and sales expert ("You need to look at your target market, BMW! Let me help.)". And you know exactly what people like or don't like ("current BMW owners won't buy it either because it's not their type of bike"). Cheers m8, I'm a bit jealous :) Well, I don't know if BMW is targeting very big sales numbers at all with a bike in the uber-premium category. Apart from that - what I have experienced throughout the years is that bikes don't necessarily always have to fit exactly into a certain category to be successful. Sometimes products can be a success because they are different from the stuff known so far (of course that can also be the reason for failure). Pricewise I have experienced that when people are willing to spend well over 20.000 € for a motorcycle they don't care if it costs 22800 € like the R18 First Edition or 21700 € (German prices) like the Fatboy for example. In this price category you will find people buying an R18 and a Fatboy together putting a Rocket 3 aside. Or a Streetfighter V4 S whatsoever. Personally, I think BMW did a fantastic job with this bike so far, the R18 First Edition looks georgous in my eyes, and the Art Deko style fits perfectly to the big boxer engine. When there is someboy saying "wow, that boxer engine! But wait, mid placed footpegs??" you really can't help that much haha :) When somebody points to the R18 prototype - with the options and the accessoires you can get as close as it is possible streetlegalwise from the factory. I mean very close. Honestly I had hoped for a few more horses, but I understand that it's all about the torque and the fact that the motor has to be aircooled, so the emission regulations could have been a factor.
4 жыл бұрын
You said it mate... For instance; I'm a short guy, 1.70m and I would love to have an R18 bobber with the ape hangers, after I get a GSA and a S1000RR and this from BMW alone, not to mention other brands. I would definitely fit nicely on the bike, but I simply don't have the money to own 3 bikes and a car.
@pauldemeester9298
@pauldemeester9298 4 жыл бұрын
Well there you go it’s a rolling piece of art you know I love this bike from the minute I saw it and yeah there’s just gonna be us but as special people who who buy those but wait till we start to customize a saying it’s going to be nuts things you’ve never seen it’s just a new platform and people like me are excited
@duosable
@duosable 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the motorcycle reviews I have watched over the last 10 years. It’s safe to say that, for a young guy the best motorcycle is the one that goes fastest and cost the least. Same mentality when my dad is buying a pair of $40 sneakers.
@amrindersekhon9080
@amrindersekhon9080 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle actually got one. He loves it and I can see why.
@butteredbiskit3497
@butteredbiskit3497 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a Moto Guzzi Audace and I can say that BMW motor sticks out way too much. BTW, the apehangers are just dumb.
@ldcrallye
@ldcrallye 4 жыл бұрын
my first thought as I saw this (as German) is your key message: The Zylinders are in the way of a relaxed position.
@DifferentSpokesTV
@DifferentSpokesTV 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one :)
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 4 жыл бұрын
... but it will still sell. Not in hundred thousands, but in small numbers and with a high profit. It will raise BMW's market profile. BTW. I sold my GS. Too big, to heavy, to complicated. The trend is simple and light.
@ldcrallye
@ldcrallye 3 жыл бұрын
@@krollpeter I recommend the Himalayan. It gets beside my Harley the same love from me. Simplicity, long stroke single cylinder, my daily driver to commute at every condition to the city. Made in 1 y 11.000 km with just one brake stuck problem, which I could solve myself. Really a very precise, accessible and nimble bike. Also perfect for the city.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 3 жыл бұрын
@@ldcrallye Himalayan, or Suzuki Van Van 200. It's a small engine but the lighter weight puts it close to the Himalayan in terms of performance.
@jamessouthworth1699
@jamessouthworth1699 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at pictures of this bike for a few months now and I was very excited about it. Yes the pipes look ridiculous but that's easy enough to change. I think the biggest drawbacks are the price and I can do without all that Tech crap like traction control and abs
@wave6413
@wave6413 Жыл бұрын
Ok. 3 years later. I am still enamored by the design. KTM 790 adv R and my Honda CMX 1100 are my 2 current bikes. But I see some fantastic second hand examples that are a lot cheaper than a HD. So I am in the market for one of these…! SO Edit a year after last comment: I got a great second hand R18C deluxe just after I posted above. Its a rolling piece art, it has presence and a sound track that I like, reverse is not a gimmick but a must and I use it a lot. The big surprise is the incredible fueling, the Honda is crap and it makes the KTM feel a bit twitchy, 3 gear 1500 RPM and 35 Kph - smooth. I like HD but this I like more, and yep, they are not selling so I have not seen many in my part of the world. The floorboards give good allowance to move feet around more than most give credit for. I am keeping this Berlin wonder and selling the Honda.
@richardlove4287
@richardlove4287 4 жыл бұрын
Those cylinders in front of your legs could be life savers here in Australia....kangaroos and wallabies would just bounce off rather than take your leg out with them.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure you wear a helmet in case of any drop bears
@TheHistorian1066
@TheHistorian1066 4 жыл бұрын
And if you loosen the casing you've also got an improvised cannon...
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 4 жыл бұрын
Thats good point , I bet nobody in BM thought of that.
@pauldemeester9298
@pauldemeester9298 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I am buying one so I’ll put me down
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Demeester So am I. 😎👍🏼
@ronaldwhiting371
@ronaldwhiting371 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@georgebamber6871
@georgebamber6871 4 жыл бұрын
I want to
@MrSmileyshaun
@MrSmileyshaun 4 жыл бұрын
Great looking bike hope you enjoy
@240fxst
@240fxst 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing that is missing is the biggest fault. Customization to make it your own. Very Limited.
@thomassliger6859
@thomassliger6859 3 жыл бұрын
I ride a Honda Valkyrie. And I would love their BMW.
@robertkoos1844
@robertkoos1844 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike would love to own one. I am quite sure it would ride just fine. And this is coming from a Harley owner. Love that are 18.
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 4 жыл бұрын
It depends what you mean by "ride just fine",and what your expectations are.
@pauldowding8185
@pauldowding8185 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right, everything you brought up is exactly what I thought when I saw it. Pipes looked like two pieces of stamped metal tack welded together.
@rogeralbaugh2762
@rogeralbaugh2762 4 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what they are! How do I know? I am a retired aerospace welder, who got his start by welding stainless steel aftermarket BMW mufflers. I know a thing or two about sheet metal and production methods. Opinion: the seams suck. owners will soon have aftermarket mufflers to choose from, eliminating that tacky feature.
@FlexxVision
@FlexxVision 3 жыл бұрын
That are war preparation bike, becomes an sidecar with some MG's to dominate the battlefield.
@DennisDeNio
@DennisDeNio 4 жыл бұрын
It's great! There's nostalgia and artistic style combined, not to forget it's likely going to last for years due to it's quality build. The lack of leg room says I won't be buying one. I'm not Jay Leno so I won't be adding this to the collection.
@MrGibsonguy335
@MrGibsonguy335 4 жыл бұрын
When BMW took a giant step "backwards" (according to the motorcycle press) and released the air/oil cooled R9T, all the haters ragged on the bike and declared it was an answer to a question nobody was asking. Of course the R9T became the instant sales leader for Motarad and spawned a whole line of R9T variants. The R18 is just a jumbo sized R9T and it will quickly become the companies flagship.
@FryChicken
@FryChicken 4 жыл бұрын
doubt
@fs5866
@fs5866 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt indeed,r9t is a more affordable bike,is a more flexible and comfortable one,great commuter.Thie one has none of these qualities
@alangrejabrejab6412
@alangrejabrejab6412 4 жыл бұрын
The exhaust pipe look awful..
@dredeth
@dredeth 4 жыл бұрын
To me it is gorgeous.
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 4 жыл бұрын
Soon fixable.
@psychologicaltirefire8190
@psychologicaltirefire8190 4 жыл бұрын
Ehh, it's easily changed.
@adamfinmore6111
@adamfinmore6111 4 жыл бұрын
There’s like 3 different styles of exhaust available from factory. I personally like the matte black slim exhaust, looks like a screamin eagle. That should be the stock option
@philzail2532
@philzail2532 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my thought also.
@GrandpaJeffrey
@GrandpaJeffrey 4 жыл бұрын
The seating geometry and controls on the R 18 is almost identical to 1150, 1200, 1250 GS and the k1600. You ride it in the same basic seating configuration. The all of the bikes mentioned above do not come with forward pegs or controls. That means there are a lot of candidates to buy the bike. It would make a great second bike for me and it may even end up as my main ride.
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point on this one. This bike is not a mass market cruiser. This is a handmade, bespoke bike that will be somewhat limited production. I think they already have a decent idea of their target market and how many they'll sell. If money was no object, I would buy one immediately. Listen, you can buy tons of tech heavy, fully modern bikes if thats what you want, but there are almost no bikes like this on the market. This is form over function in the classic German style. It's beautiful, made with high quality materials, and has a thoughtful design with tons of attention to detail. That is what will sell the bike. Not the specs or the features. Same with Moto Guzzi and many other bikes. It's not about the practicality or functionality, it's unique, it feels good and it draws you in. Part art, part motorcycle. Appreciate it for what it is, not what you think it should be. Great review, just my 2 cents on the matter. The exhaust is horrendus though. What were they thinking with that?
@pedsgreatescape1723
@pedsgreatescape1723 4 жыл бұрын
I Love it, Looks Old school with modern pro's
@gobear83
@gobear83 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s see .. take my 34” inseam legs..turn them into a pretzel shape...oh and then pay a kings ransom to do...never I love BMWs and have owned over twenty.. but this as you mention will languish on show room floors the same way the James Bond BMW ..they couldn’t give them away ..this plain and simple is a duh moment for BMW
@joetroutt7425
@joetroutt7425 4 жыл бұрын
Exhaust pipes aren't for looking at. They're for hearing. That's the reason most pipes are covered, shortened, or just taken off. They don't want see them just hear them.
@bigfootingermany
@bigfootingermany 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned and ridden both BMW and HD for a lot of years. Currently own 2 BMW's a 2016 R1200R and my latest 2020 R1250RT. Before both of these was a 2009 R1200R. While it was a great bike for just about any situation, one of my fav things to do is tour riding. Throw back from my earlier H-D days on a Ultra Glide. So when I first tried doing some real distance on the 2009 R1200R, I found myself getting cramped up from the knees forward position. I had bought that bike barely used with under 4k miles. But the previous owner had put crash bars around the cylinders. For me, being an old H-D rider, the solution was simple. I installed highway pegs on the crash bars, that would fold backwards, instead of upwards when not in use. Even the big H-D touring bikes will mostly have a set of aftermarket highway pegs on them. Even though you are in the La-Z-boy position, it's nice to be able to have another place to put your feet. So let's go backwards a little bit to the K1600B. Same upright sort of riding position, and the pegs and controls are right under your @$$, but the bagger model is supposed to be a cruiser. Solution? BMW installed factory floor boards on the engine case guards. While you can't shift and brake etc from there, it does give you someplace else to recline and be comfortable. So with the size of the cylinders on the R18, there is no way you're gonna get away without someone making some really nice solid cylinder guards out there. So just grab some pegs and mount them on it. Will I buy one when it becomes available? Absolutely! My first bike was a 73 or 74 R75/5 and it was a great bike. Other than drum brakes, it was so far ahead of it's time in comfort and smooth ride, I kept it for several years and it was my daily rider. I wish I had never sold it. So even tho this monstrous bike isn't an old piece of classic Bavarian history, it does reach back into its roots. Even the shaft drive is old skool. Not like the modern shaft drives I have on my current R bikes. So yeah, I'll get one when they come out. And the first thing I will do is replace that god awful looking muffler abortion. Then put on the cage and pegs. Because I can live without the pegs for now, but that swoopty whatever that is hanging off the end of the pipe, does not invoke anything from their past, and hopefully nothing from the future either, or I might just have to make the switch to Triumph.... Bob no longer in Germany
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