BNC London: Cronje Q&A - Coalition and electoral challenges post-May 29

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26 күн бұрын

At the BizNews Conference in London, Frans Cronje discussed the ANC's electoral prospects, the influence of Jacob Zuma, and the dynamics between the ANC and EFF. He analysed the ANC's strategic behaviour and potential alliances, emphasizing the pragmatic and cautious approach the party often takes. Cronje highlighted the complexities within the ANC and its resistance to extreme leftist policies, suggesting that despite internal and external challenges, a complete collapse of the ANC or South African governance is unlikely. He also addressed the implications for smaller parties and the potential for future political and economic recovery in South Africa.
Video production by Patrick Kidd
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@thabosonjani9103
@thabosonjani9103 23 күн бұрын
Always look forward to Dr frans cronje insights
@mkhululiyekani1689
@mkhululiyekani1689 24 күн бұрын
I like how he answers.
@RynoLeGrange
@RynoLeGrange 24 күн бұрын
Frans Cronje is one of the best political analysts. I wish the political leaders would listen to him.
@douglasreed007
@douglasreed007 19 күн бұрын
Mr biggest take away from this talk is the impressive South African Society relevant to the world. Somehow that has been our saving grace everytime we are on the brink of a precipice even though we have a propensity to self destruct.
@pamelaleibowitz3019
@pamelaleibowitz3019 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for your excellent analysis !
@ulricgordon8586
@ulricgordon8586 24 күн бұрын
I hope he's badly wrong about the ANC getting a high percentage. That means the majority of our people support corruptiom
@wihanvanzyl4564
@wihanvanzyl4564 23 күн бұрын
One of the most valueable lessons I've learned is that 'hope is not a strategy' and that history shows that the majority of people, when faced with the unknown, will opt for irrationality over logic. It doesn't matter who wins in SA with global dynamics changing at their current rate. Imo
@felicitytaylor3764
@felicitytaylor3764 21 күн бұрын
In eastern cape they lovely people but uneducated poor and said they have to vote ANC because they the only party that will give grants and young girl said i am unemployed and have to feed my child. They not happy with ANC but ANC lie and do fear mongering evil
@rossstubbs7398
@rossstubbs7398 23 күн бұрын
Babe wake up, a new Frans Cronje video just dropped!
@IsmaelNxala
@IsmaelNxala 22 күн бұрын
This man understands SA politics better than any one els💯 He scared the sh!t out of me on this video, but I can never be more great full for the heads up🫡
@LethiuxX
@LethiuxX 24 күн бұрын
Whatever the outcome, the next party to step into office will have a really hard time recovering the losses that the ANC has accrued over 30 years. It will take a few generations.
@LukeDyani-rh3zd
@LukeDyani-rh3zd 24 күн бұрын
Not true...the ANC has been struggling to fix what generations of Apartheid damaged...so you have no idea what you are talking about
@stlouisix3
@stlouisix3 21 күн бұрын
Brill analysis!
@sloetsteenkamp6332
@sloetsteenkamp6332 17 күн бұрын
Very insightful
@ndabenhlengcobo8741
@ndabenhlengcobo8741 24 күн бұрын
A lot People will be shocked next week...
@mitchelldenysschen3224
@mitchelldenysschen3224 23 күн бұрын
Frogs in a pot of water slowly being brought to a boil are never shocked…
@olwethusilo7155
@olwethusilo7155 19 күн бұрын
This Frans Cronje guy defines South Africa's moment in a very compelling way. Either way time will tell.
@Mondeor218
@Mondeor218 24 күн бұрын
2024 is just another step in a long journey. Agreed that it might be easier to try view this election in isolation but if we view our country on a 30 year timeline. These elections should be seen as the beginning of a transition and not a do-or-die scenario, which ever way the polls reflect on 29 May nothing will come right or fall apart in a day.
@christophervan6966
@christophervan6966 24 күн бұрын
Well said
@olwethusilo7155
@olwethusilo7155 19 күн бұрын
100% - Amazing comment!
@ShaunGunter-vj2ih
@ShaunGunter-vj2ih 24 күн бұрын
How do we pressurize the ANC into prosecuting corrupt cadres? That is where I would start to fix the country.
@LukeDyani-rh3zd
@LukeDyani-rh3zd 24 күн бұрын
That is a solid start
@fridgemagnet9831
@fridgemagnet9831 24 күн бұрын
it's not possible since they are all implicated in some kind of corrupt dealings.
@LukeDyani-rh3zd
@LukeDyani-rh3zd 24 күн бұрын
@@fridgemagnet9831 that attitude is the wrong one to have
@fridgemagnet9831
@fridgemagnet9831 24 күн бұрын
@@LukeDyani-rh3zd it’s just an assessment of the situation, I wish things were different . If they fix the NPA and bring back the Scorpions they the same people who will get caught. They will charge some “small fish” just to show the public they do something about corruption.
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 24 күн бұрын
Why don't you lead by example and start prosecuting the corrupt DA in George where the building collapsed ????
@moosankocee2123
@moosankocee2123 23 күн бұрын
Can't wait to come back to this page after 29 May just to have a laugh
@jo-annecombrink331
@jo-annecombrink331 15 күн бұрын
Let me know how that laugh is going?
@moosankocee2123
@moosankocee2123 14 күн бұрын
@@jo-annecombrink331 you are stark between a rock and other thing if you catch my drift. you counted your chickens before they hatched but then again it is typical of you, 😂😂 let wait and see who laughs last since coalition talk are about to begin. Your favorite party is about to form a coalition with people you loathe. how is that for a plot twist
@lumumbamyeza5846
@lumumbamyeza5846 13 күн бұрын
how is the laugh going?
@lumumbamyeza5846
@lumumbamyeza5846 13 күн бұрын
@@jo-annecombrink331 hahahhahahhaha. im also waiting for an answer
@moosankocee2123
@moosankocee2123 12 күн бұрын
@@lumumbamyeza5846 Still going. i suspect that you think i was rooting for the ANC DOlolo🤣
@IsmaelNxala
@IsmaelNxala 22 күн бұрын
I literally needed to pause the video by 8:39 , just to relax and take a breath😮‍💨😖, I absolutely love Cronje’s interviews, this man has taught me everything I know about SA politics, this video how ever scared the living sh!t out of me…. I now know RP is the only guarantee I have on a future for my 2y, 1y old children… I must see Cape Independence come to fruition, even if it’s the last thing I do🚶🏻🫡
@selvinlouw
@selvinlouw 24 күн бұрын
Data mining analysis do that to a person. It made people feel very uncomfortable when he asked what replaces the ANC? If you don't have experience in international relations and security intelligence. You will be shoked how many international crooks are out there and how you were protected.
@harrietkwindaharriet4076
@harrietkwindaharriet4076 17 күн бұрын
This is the most honest opinion very thought through 💪🏿
@felicitytaylor3764
@felicitytaylor3764 21 күн бұрын
Dr Frans C sort of hits the nail on the head but still praying for a miracle . PA good manifesto but he let DA down 4x and seems to do coalitions with ANC and EFF thats worrying
@gavinbinder4974
@gavinbinder4974 24 күн бұрын
Indeed, after the results come out, we need to direct it slowly. Every sane person in SA needs to buy in to what the leaders decide
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj 17 күн бұрын
Oranges...blue seas...indigenous chickens..50..55..53..❤❤❤ flaxseed oil..brownies..marks village 5 bob
@janedawson335
@janedawson335 18 күн бұрын
An unbiased, measured opinion
@phillipsugwas
@phillipsugwas 23 күн бұрын
Ask yourself whether it would have served the country better if the medical industry had actually initiated a public but disclosive campaign to integrate state and private care. Free at the point of service ( to those who cannot pay) NHS in the UK is a joke as it exists..
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj 17 күн бұрын
58%
@pearlmahlangu5389
@pearlmahlangu5389 17 күн бұрын
Coalition has never worked amongst the parties they still scramble for power ignoring the poignant value of working for the public
@kagisomatjila6099
@kagisomatjila6099 23 күн бұрын
But he really never finishes answering questions though
@foxmarowa
@foxmarowa 20 күн бұрын
While I don't doubt this, you guys seem to forget how good ruling parties are at keeping their consistent voters. Zuma is not a factor at allllll. This seems more hopeful than realistic, we hope Zuma takes ANC and EFF votes. Does this mean the day Zuma said I am back, EFF people ran and said F-it we are going for Zuma, Zuma takes Zulu voters who were not interested in voting not EFF voters. No way Zuma gets 10% unless KZN is now the whole of SA.
@tokoloshi214
@tokoloshi214 23 күн бұрын
The popularity of Zuma is as much a risk to SA as crime
@Spyk27632
@Spyk27632 24 күн бұрын
People underestimate Julu Malema,drove into Stellenbosch from the Distell aka Heineken Beverage side and the only posters put up was that of the EFF,Juju is going to rule Stellenbosch😂😂😂
@PriestmanofGod
@PriestmanofGod 24 күн бұрын
they know that, they are just in denial
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
O EFF will not rule Stellenbosch nor the DA
@janineroux2398
@janineroux2398 24 күн бұрын
Too horrible to even THINK of...
@joeltichakundamaboreke5020
@joeltichakundamaboreke5020 24 күн бұрын
Sedition in plain view 😂
@davidhayes9893
@davidhayes9893 24 күн бұрын
I love good sarcasm
@christophervan6966
@christophervan6966 24 күн бұрын
Good one
@spikeleemonacochillinwitde4589
@spikeleemonacochillinwitde4589 24 күн бұрын
Shout out to Eskom 😍🤩
@joecruiser
@joecruiser 24 күн бұрын
Please understand that SA is done for. This is Not due to their backyard political leaders only ....
@ShaunGunter-vj2ih
@ShaunGunter-vj2ih 24 күн бұрын
Surely ramaphosa would boost the country and the ANC by appointing competent untainted ministers
@ronelpeens7366
@ronelpeens7366 24 күн бұрын
sorry...he puts anc before SA ... OLD THIEF!
@trondasdam6443
@trondasdam6443 24 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@leilahakulinen
@leilahakulinen 24 күн бұрын
There aren't any of those ministers in the ANC government
@user-od1hc9kp4g
@user-od1hc9kp4g 24 күн бұрын
But anc is now supporting the east I see trouble
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 24 күн бұрын
Stop making a fool of yourself....they are doing that since 1994 ....
@acappella1983
@acappella1983 24 күн бұрын
Show they be supporting the West 🤔🤔🤔
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
​@@acappella1983we dont need the west because South Africans love to be a BRICS country. We want to stand with Russia and China
@jean-micheldesenneville2519
@jean-micheldesenneville2519 23 күн бұрын
Welcome to a real-politic ANC-DA Alliance, 38 + 17 = 55% minimum with the Economy, Finance, Infrastructure & Security Ministries under DA's responsibility !❤
@stamonmakhuvele
@stamonmakhuvele 24 күн бұрын
France, brilliant analysis and research❤
@rnnad7859
@rnnad7859 23 күн бұрын
This is one of the most critical times for South Africa. What are you doing in London analysing South Africa? So out of touch.
@felicitytaylor3764
@felicitytaylor3764 21 күн бұрын
DA know what they doing. This is depressing news that ANC and EFF could ve our leaders. . Glad you said vite DA. 10/15 years realistic but depressing. Many will try immigrate in that case. Under DA fine but under ANC and EFF ww can look forward to another Zimbabwe but communist . Sigh
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj
@SiyabongaTiti-qk1kj 20 күн бұрын
1313
@mojalefajacob4049
@mojalefajacob4049 24 күн бұрын
I don't agree with Frans. I don't see the MK party at 10%. I see MK around 4%- 8%.
@johansnyman6864
@johansnyman6864 24 күн бұрын
Frans has an opinion based on his interpretation of the information available to him, and so do you. We will know how much support MK has in 8/9 days from today !
@kennethward2537
@kennethward2537 24 күн бұрын
Based on what ?
@mojalefajacob4049
@mojalefajacob4049 24 күн бұрын
@johansnyman6864 It's actually 6/7 days from today. France relies heavily on SRF and it's linked to DA. So, it's wise to conclude that it's a DA propaganda poll. It has consistently put the DA near the 30 mark.
@mojalefajacob4049
@mojalefajacob4049 24 күн бұрын
@@kennethward2537 On reality on the ground.
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 24 күн бұрын
Yes....closer to 4 than 8...
@Lee_BuU
@Lee_BuU 23 күн бұрын
This man just undermined The MK constituents intellect
@princezulu751
@princezulu751 24 күн бұрын
GBPJPY
@RedcliffSham
@RedcliffSham 23 күн бұрын
Most likely outcome is a ANC + EFF or MK coalition... If these account for 60% to 65% of the vote, the rest of the other parties are fighting for crumbs
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 23 күн бұрын
No , it depends on what % ANC gets. ANC looking like it will get around 45% so it won't need either EFF of MK to rule.
@mathewman
@mathewman 23 күн бұрын
actually not too bad - getting some reality - ANC FOREVER
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
We will rather vote MK to ensure that we will not be ruled by Americans again. And I know a lot off people living in Western Cape voting MK
@sibusisodube6835
@sibusisodube6835 23 күн бұрын
So wena ufuna ukuvotela ifamily Stokvel?😂😂
@intellifly747
@intellifly747 23 күн бұрын
The Americans are not ruling us baba
@intellifly747
@intellifly747 23 күн бұрын
​@@sibusisodube6835silam still thinks that Zuma cares about his voters. He uses them to steal more money
@jeromemosetic7250
@jeromemosetic7250 22 күн бұрын
Jy is Kak dom ek se
@socertiesDB9
@socertiesDB9 18 күн бұрын
These so called "analysts" they are so arrogant and have no real understanding of the majority of SA.... yet their points are so highly regarded as gospel...
@siyawam
@siyawam 20 күн бұрын
But guys why there is so much hate fir the EFF. How is MK taking EFF supporters because the people who love Zuma hate EFF for removing him in the presidency.
@balsak007
@balsak007 19 күн бұрын
Stop asking stupid questions
@gawiestols6857
@gawiestols6857 24 күн бұрын
In my mind and experience there is forsure no real democracy in SA but rather Communism
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 24 күн бұрын
Ha fucking ha !!!! Go educate yourself....Dom Doos !!!!
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 24 күн бұрын
What happened to Matric Domkop John Steenhuisen and his Moon Domkoppe ??? The doos is nowhere to be seen ....or is he having another affair ???😮😮😮
@nomadicleopard
@nomadicleopard 24 күн бұрын
He is campaigning are you living under a rock
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
Problem with Steenhuize he is in favor of America and all small parties that we wanted to vote for went into coalitions with DA. Only thing left is voting MK
@nomadicleopard
@nomadicleopard 24 күн бұрын
@@silam2329 your precious Juju is in favour of Italians
@lynnehorn2220
@lynnehorn2220 24 күн бұрын
Does your brain actually function?
@ladygrace6208
@ladygrace6208 23 күн бұрын
your last braincell is faulty
@mojalefajacob4049
@mojalefajacob4049 24 күн бұрын
I think the EFF is underestimated in this election by the DA poll led by France Cronje called SRF.
@user-rj4dr6bt6m
@user-rj4dr6bt6m 24 күн бұрын
Substantiate your view? Your research method and data? Or just your own 'thumsuck'? Go to school ...?
@Spyk27632
@Spyk27632 24 күн бұрын
True,I drove into Stellenbosch yesterday and the only posters on show was Julius Malema😂😂😂 he will rule in Stellenbosch
@sanchokhau5496
@sanchokhau5496 24 күн бұрын
You can really tell that he's very bearish when it comes to EFF, of course he has to serve his master.
@mojalefajacob4049
@mojalefajacob4049 24 күн бұрын
@sanchokhau5496 They're trying all by means to spin their propaganda to make EFF & MK enemies. Hence, he says MK is directly eating the EFF, not the ANC.
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
​@@Spyk27632citizens is gatvol for parties like DA..EFF..and ANC. We vote MK
@fortunetshabalala534
@fortunetshabalala534 23 күн бұрын
Helicopter view analysis and term in - term out, they wonder how they got it wrong... the only way to understand how the majority voters think/feel and thus, how they will vote is to be on the ground. You don't need to be too academic, just be observant. The MK is not gonna take much of the EFFs vote, MK voters are largely ANC voters who are disgruntled with how the Zuma issue was handled, how the Umkhonto weSizwe was disbanded, and also how Cyril Ramaphosa runs the organization. So, the ANC will shed most of their votes. I would even say in KZN, the MK will affect the IFP even more than the EFF, more so now with the departing of Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi, President Zuma is seen and respected as a Senior Zulu Leader than Velenkosini Hlabisa. EFF voters are largely people who were disgruntled with Zuma and how Julius Malema was chased out of the ANC, they are not gonna leave Juju for Zuma in large number. But also, another point you are missing is how the EFF and MK can combine their vote to have a larger leverage against the ANC in negotiations after elections.
@siyamcelabewana6099
@siyamcelabewana6099 24 күн бұрын
We are going to vote the ANC back in power, till this opposition sort out their messy relationship.
@silam2329
@silam2329 24 күн бұрын
No we vote MK in Western Cape
@jsdutoit85
@jsdutoit85 23 күн бұрын
@@silam2329 even after all the corruption? You realize the corruption and outdated policies are making you poorer? Why don’t you give Rise Mzansi or ActionSA a chance? Surely you see that the country will only deteriorate further under ANC? I’m not even going to start about MK, they will steal only for their families not for you! Please think about your families future for gods sake
@ladygrace6208
@ladygrace6208 23 күн бұрын
That's why we need to get the MPC in. They set their egos aside to work together and save this country
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