Bob Knight’s beef with Indiana was the result of an “emperor” losing power

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Жыл бұрын

You may know Bob Knight from the many NCAA and Big 10 championships he won as coach of Indiana University, but more likely, you know him as the coach who threw a chair.
For over two decades Bob Knight could behave however he wanted with no repercussions. Throw a chair, scream at a ref, scream at a player, choke a player, curse at a player... wait... choke a player?!
When that one hit national press years after the alleged incident occurred, IU was like... "uh, we should probably do something." Guess who didn't like that? (Bob Knight) (sorry to give away the answer right away).
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@QuartzGolem
@QuartzGolem Жыл бұрын
The lengths people will go to defend someone they don't know personally will never cease to puzzle me.
@jordanalexander5275
@jordanalexander5275 Жыл бұрын
I know, like how half the country voted for Biden even though dementia has set in. Or how the other half voted for an egomaniac, amongst other mental issues. Humans are strange. Until you grow up in indiana, watch your home team win multiple championships, see former iu players have amazing success in multiple fields, you just can't understand how deep it runs. It's easy to pick apart and say, how could you support this person? I'm sure you could do the same for a lot of championship teams through history, Adolph Rupp could be considered a racist, Kentucky still has his name on their arena
@Sele1908
@Sele1908 Жыл бұрын
Just look at some Trump supporters.
@jennytool1348
@jennytool1348 Жыл бұрын
@@Sele1908 bro get outside and shoot some hoops, don’t even stress em.
@mellow.madness
@mellow.madness Жыл бұрын
Or condemn someone we don't know either.
@jordanalexander5275
@jordanalexander5275 Жыл бұрын
@@Sele1908 or biden supporters, both sides are out of touch with reality
@samortmann5003
@samortmann5003 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Knight is the prime example of what you can get away with in college sports if you're good at your job
@AlexEich
@AlexEich Жыл бұрын
You can get away with anything if you're a white coach in Indiana Basketball. All that state cares for is abortion billboards and college basketball.
@DarthKotEI
@DarthKotEI Жыл бұрын
Even today
@FreeFoodforthePoor
@FreeFoodforthePoor Жыл бұрын
Which is why he had so many NBA greats come through his program, right? Or why his teams after beating basketball powerhouse Rony Seikaly were so successful?
@TheFrostbite324
@TheFrostbite324 Жыл бұрын
Just look at Urban Meyer
@dustinolvey8877
@dustinolvey8877 Жыл бұрын
Or too many people's idea of a strong disciplinarian.
@nevingutierrez241
@nevingutierrez241 Жыл бұрын
This isn't beef, this straight criminal
@Yzyenthusiast
@Yzyenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@janoycresnova9156 brother choking someone and brandishing a gun at another is not legal
@samortmann5003
@samortmann5003 Жыл бұрын
@@janoycresnova9156 Did you watch the video? He choked Neil Reid, punched a cop in Puerto Rico (which he was found guilty of), and multiple other instances of assault.
@MagicalBread
@MagicalBread Жыл бұрын
@@janoycresnova9156 Intimidation, assault, etc.
@unbilletal
@unbilletal Жыл бұрын
Enlightened
@brandonmorris92
@brandonmorris92 Жыл бұрын
@@janoycresnova9156 You must be fun at parties.
@IRuiz805
@IRuiz805 Жыл бұрын
The player he choked during the Indiana practice is Neil Reed, he was my P.E. teacher my sophomore year of High School, his class of one of the few I actually liked, sadly he passed away from a heart attack in 2012 that was the summer before my senior year. R.I.P Mr. Reed
@superdupersubby
@superdupersubby Жыл бұрын
Damn a fellow panther in the chat, small world we live in. I graduated in 2012 and I remember his death brought many of us back a few months after that summer. I'll always remember him making a no look half court shot during P.E class, the whole gym went nuts lol
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@superdupersubby Damn that is pretty nuts to find someone who went to the same high school as you in youtube comments lol
@IRuiz805
@IRuiz805 Жыл бұрын
@@superdupersubbythat's crazy how we're both in the comments and we went to the same high school lol, you graduated one year before me so we pretty much went to school together for 3 years lol that's crazy. Yea man his class was fun that's the one class I never ditched lol. It's also crazy he came out on ESPN when he died they even did a report on him and they interviewed his wife, I recorded it on snapchat and I still have it saved
@IRuiz805
@IRuiz805 Жыл бұрын
@@AspireGMD yea crazy bro, what's even crazier is that he graduated in 2012 and I did in 2013, so we pretty much went to school 3 years together lol. We probably passed each other In the hall or maybe even had a class together without even knowing
@555dking
@555dking Жыл бұрын
He was young:(
@Mrfostie
@Mrfostie Жыл бұрын
this is insane. he was an abusive tyrant for 30 years, faced mild consequences after years of being let off easy, and then disowned the school and wished death upon everyone responsible for the next 20 years. guy deserves no respect
@chrisguastaferro6147
@chrisguastaferro6147 Жыл бұрын
He got offended when they decided not to kiss his ass and actually stand up to him
@cd6xc
@cd6xc Жыл бұрын
The players he coached really like him, still. I don't think the guy doesn't have any qualities, but I think giving him a free pass for such a long time just exacerbated his stubbornness and anger issues. Why change if everyone pats you in the back at the end?
@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545
@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 Жыл бұрын
Things are better today. He would’ve been canceled so fast. The world truly is a better place with cancel culture
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 Is this comment sarcastic?
@user-ix6fl6pb1z
@user-ix6fl6pb1z Жыл бұрын
You are a pu$$y. Let’s meet up
@lincolnwright7896
@lincolnwright7896 Жыл бұрын
I can’t think of a single thing Bob Knight didn’t have beef with
@evancase3087
@evancase3087 Жыл бұрын
Bro probably had beef with beef. 😭
@battlestar65
@battlestar65 Жыл бұрын
stg he had beef with my buddy eric ☠️☠️
@pats4lifebb
@pats4lifebb Жыл бұрын
Donald trump
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat Жыл бұрын
The win column. That’s about it.
@jordanalexander5275
@jordanalexander5275 Жыл бұрын
​@@iAintSayDatdude had the last undefeated team. So...
@YerpDerp17
@YerpDerp17 Жыл бұрын
I was a massive basketball fan (still am), age 12 growing up in a small town about 45 minutes east of IU. My dad was obsessed with college basketball, calling it "real basketball". While I was a massive NBA and Reggie Miller fan. I always disliked Bob Knight, and even at my young age I could tell he was an unhinged coach. This story was huge local news here in Indiana, and I remember so many people defending him and downplaying all the stuff he did. Basketball, especially college basketball was royalty in Indiana. It was like one of my first times as a kid at seeing a large number of people get presented with actual facts, and them still passively ignoring them, all for the sake of their favorite team. This was probably my first time realizing the power of celebrity, and how some people really do become invincible. Or how we set standards or have a base set of morals we have for other people, that can be switched off if you happen to like that person, or attach your identity to a team. Ah I will stop rambling, this video brought up so many memories though. lol It was very well done and really explainedit all in a nice summarized way without leaving out anything important.
@grantcastleman7116
@grantcastleman7116 Жыл бұрын
i agree he was wrong for many things…but u ask 90% of his players they loved playing for bobby…and they won a lot…criticize him but he was the GOAT for a long time and brought up the one who says passed him in Coach K…Knight did dumb some things but he deserve some respect.
@PC-dh7mu
@PC-dh7mu Жыл бұрын
Was this the preeminent "small town" east of Bloomington? Seymour? I grew up an hour south of Bloomington. I assume you also saw Texas Tech clothing start popping up all over the area.
@josephwhiteside2739
@josephwhiteside2739 Жыл бұрын
People were demanding that his players put up with behavior that they themselves would not tolerate.
@juliocardenas4485
@juliocardenas4485 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the context
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Penn State students with Joe Paterno
@natemarx4999
@natemarx4999 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Knight was basically the Suge Knight of NCAA Basketball.
@Hazztech
@Hazztech Жыл бұрын
Suge knight had no talent of his own. Is that really appropriate?
@samortmann5003
@samortmann5003 Жыл бұрын
​@@Hazztech Plus I don't think Bobby Knight ever injected any of his players with HIV.
@evanmonacelli7715
@evanmonacelli7715 Жыл бұрын
@@Hazztech may not have been him but in the same ball park lol both bad guys…
@evanmonacelli7715
@evanmonacelli7715 Жыл бұрын
@@samortmann5003 why are you standing up for the old fool he was an awful guy sorry your hero is morally bankrupt🥲
@97NikeSb
@97NikeSb Жыл бұрын
@@Hazztech you do realize suge played in the NFL right?
@mactheknife7049
@mactheknife7049 Жыл бұрын
Bob Knight is a classic case of three things: (i) the level to which people will forgive offenses of a reprehensible person if they have a particular talent that can be exploited, and (ii) the level to which power can be accumulated over time, to a point of being unchecked by anyone, even those technically in positions of authority above you, and (iii) the inability of a person to adapt to the world around them, growing ever indignant of change, and ever intractable in their stubbornness to repel change. Had he not been successful, and at Indiana in particular, he'd have been a vagabond coach along the likes of Larry Brown (but with repeated firings rather than resignations).
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
I'm a "nice person"; hire me to coach
@beatnik09
@beatnik09 Жыл бұрын
​@@darrengordon-hill I'm sorry your favorite basketball coach is an awful and abusive person
@franknbeans2623
@franknbeans2623 Жыл бұрын
If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jump
@ericrobinson7861
@ericrobinson7861 Жыл бұрын
“Particular talent that can be exploited” that’s a weird way to say Value lol
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv Жыл бұрын
​@@darrengordon-hillincel posting
@ryanchase9332
@ryanchase9332 Жыл бұрын
This wasn't a beef between Knight and Indiana U. It was a beef between Knight and being a decent human being.
@joeblow9657
@joeblow9657 Жыл бұрын
IMO it wasn't even that it was a beef between Knight and being held to a base level of accountability.
@brandobattise
@brandobattise Жыл бұрын
The fact that THOUSANDS of students protested after ALL the stuff he did says a lot about them
@DJ_BROBOT
@DJ_BROBOT Жыл бұрын
I went to IU during that time...its because so many kids from across the country came to IU for Knight. It took the balls of President Brand, who then became the commissioner of the NCAA, to do the dirty work and get him out and stop the psychophants in Bloomington from enabling that fool.
@evanmonacelli7715
@evanmonacelli7715 Жыл бұрын
Well the people of Indiana have always thought a little funny😂😂
@jordanalexander5275
@jordanalexander5275 Жыл бұрын
The same college that gave you the Kinsey institute, where he studied the sexuality of children(even babies) and gave child abusers journals so he could learn about their process, not to keep abuse from happening though.. iu is a funny place, and bob knight is still loved in this state no matter what all the hit pieces may say
@emcee_spokesman
@emcee_spokesman Жыл бұрын
Meh, speaks more to the power of groupthink when it's organized around a collective identity like team sports. Look at all the people who defended Joe Paterno even after it was clear he covered up child r@pe
@sethwick8348
@sethwick8348 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanalexander5275 Kinsey studied important stuff. People don't go from completely nonsexual to sexual when they turn 18, the development of sexuality in children is a topic worth study. I know I was definitely interested in sex and reproduction starting around 7.
@jeanlobrot
@jeanlobrot Жыл бұрын
Bob knight is indianas abusive ex that they just can’t let go of. Defending him is gross and unnecessary
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Feel better now???
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
What IU actually need that time was a higher-calibre coach who can brought instant success just so the fans can forget Bobby fast. I mean, look at Penn State with Bill O'Brien and James Franklin.
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@darrengordon-hill Let me guess, Indiana fan?
@superdupersubby
@superdupersubby Жыл бұрын
Reed was a P.E teacher in my school, he was always one of the cool ones. One time in Senior year he found me and my friend ditching weights class and just told us to scram back to class instead of reporting us. RIP Mr. Reed.
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 Жыл бұрын
If Indiana were still winning, he wouldn't have been fired. People are insane.
@karmicobsession1636
@karmicobsession1636 Жыл бұрын
1000% true
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
Also, if Indiana were still winning after he was fired, those sheeple will forget about him faster. Just look at Penn State.
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 Жыл бұрын
Be careful Clara... You might get death threats from these delusional fans holding on to their success from 40 years ago...
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 10 ай бұрын
40 years ago?? Half of those fans are dead, and the other half are on mobility scooters at this point. Clara could simply out walk them laughing all the way.
@seanyfresh
@seanyfresh Жыл бұрын
The donkey in Purdue gear is low key hilarious
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 Жыл бұрын
it's crazy that Bob Knight and Gene Keady (legendary Purdue coach) are good friends considering how much Knight loathed all things Purdue. Also, by all accounts Gene Keady was never remotely close to being the sociopath lunatic that Bob Knight was...although I admit that's jumping over a low bar lol
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat Жыл бұрын
That's the problem with being a tyrant. Once you can no longer dominate, you get kicked to the curb with the same lack of mercy you showed. Edit: RIP
@grantcastleman7116
@grantcastleman7116 Жыл бұрын
he was still dominating…
@lucashenderson2775
@lucashenderson2775 Жыл бұрын
​@@grantcastleman7116 In his last 6 years at Indiana, he never made it past the 1st weekend of the tournament. The game had passed him by.
@grantcastleman7116
@grantcastleman7116 Жыл бұрын
@@lucashenderson2775 he made the tournament every year thats still great
@isaacpeachey8609
@isaacpeachey8609 Жыл бұрын
@@grantcastleman7116 Yeah. He was dominating his lazy boy recliner.
@nothanksguy
@nothanksguy Жыл бұрын
​@@grantcastleman7116 thats not dominant tho. Making the tournament and losing 1st round every year isn't successful enough to cover his ass like final 4 appearances and championships.
@tysonsutton9621
@tysonsutton9621 Жыл бұрын
“The Last Days of Knight” is an outstanding documentary and does an excellent job of highlighting what a terrible human being Bobby Knight is. Neil Reed deserved better.
@charismatic9904
@charismatic9904 Жыл бұрын
Reed was a weak pansy lol.
@jerryneil8558
@jerryneil8558 Жыл бұрын
@@charismatic9904 so you would accept someone putting their hands around your throat and choking you like Knight did
@raimarulightning
@raimarulightning Жыл бұрын
​@@charismatic9904 Damn. You feel cool now?
@charismatic9904
@charismatic9904 Жыл бұрын
@@raimarulightning lmao. Touch a nerve did I?
@charismatic9904
@charismatic9904 Жыл бұрын
@@jerryneil8558 oh stop he never put his hands around and choked. At worst he put 1 hand on his neck and held firmly. And im not even a knight fan but jesus u people love to exaggerate
@yurmumsgjey
@yurmumsgjey Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a middle aged man who enjoys screaming at 18-22 year olds with abuse of authority
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
No you're right... middle aged WOMEN is the solution!! More single mommas telling their kids to hit opponents for fouling them... Black women built like linebacker shouting at undersized white male refs... and if those refs complain, they'll be accused of "racist misogyny"
@zds8291
@zds8291 Жыл бұрын
That’s college sports for you lmao
@jumpingbombangels2856
@jumpingbombangels2856 Жыл бұрын
98% graduation rate
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv Жыл бұрын
​@@jumpingbombangels2856that's a funny way of saying "all of the students wanted to get the hell out of there"
@jumpingbombangels2856
@jumpingbombangels2856 Жыл бұрын
@@cybercrasherstv By staying all 4 years and getting their degree? That’s a strange and long way to “get the hell out of there”
@ryanzepp8897
@ryanzepp8897 Жыл бұрын
Clara Morris will write and narrate my nonexistent storied sports career
@TheMan750
@TheMan750 Жыл бұрын
Love that last part by Clara, tells you more than anything how passionate fans would go to defend him, even if they weren’t even alive when he was fired
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
Getting Bart Simpson to do the voice over is such a genius move by secret base.
@sethwick8348
@sethwick8348 Жыл бұрын
The defense of an abusive coach reminds me of Penn State students protesting removing a statue of Joe Paterno for covering up extensive child sex abuse by his assistant coach.
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
And then Bill O'Brien made them forget about that in record time. Thinking about it, maybe what IU need back then was hiring big names and bringing them instant success so those corn-eating sheeple could move on sooner.
@jayclean5653
@jayclean5653 11 ай бұрын
Or Michigan with Bo
@Andy-po3ip
@Andy-po3ip Жыл бұрын
The most important part of his 2020 comeback, Purdue won that game.
@jumpingbombangels2856
@jumpingbombangels2856 Жыл бұрын
And still have 0 national titles 😢😂
@phytonso9877
@phytonso9877 Ай бұрын
74-62. It's the little things that get you through this life.
@KingDizzleLTDinc.
@KingDizzleLTDinc. Жыл бұрын
“Wiping himself and showing the team the toilet paper.” That is a wow and disgusting moment
@Dowsynn
@Dowsynn Жыл бұрын
I love every Secret Base video, but I LOVE a Clara Morris narrated Secret Base video. Funny, insightful writer with charisma and natural delivery.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Beta simp needs mommy
@janb7361
@janb7361 Жыл бұрын
She's really incredible at this
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@matthewjordan6957 Uhhh, why exactly?
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@matthewjordan6957 Because you're calling someone's comment pathetic for literally no reason?
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@@matthewjordan6957 Hmm, must be Clara's ex or something.
@mcj88
@mcj88 Жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is what happens when Winning is more important than Treating People With Basic Dignity.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
They hand out million dollar contracts and trophies for "being nice"??
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Do the Olympics exist to "treat people with basic dignity"?? Cos those using PEDs didn't get that memo...
@mcj88
@mcj88 Жыл бұрын
@@darrengordon-hill Whataboutism.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
@@mcj88 Virtue signalling
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
​@@darrengordon-hill why are you so triggered and personally offended?
@ChimpPimpin42069
@ChimpPimpin42069 Жыл бұрын
IU's relationship with Bob Knight is similar an abusive parent. No matter what that parent does (choking, punching, screaming), the kid still does everything to receive the love of said parent
@lewrl1
@lewrl1 Жыл бұрын
You know it's a good-ass video when the commentator straight-up calls one of the people involved a "monster" 2 minutes in.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
It's good that women call men "monster" for no reason?? Not THE RAPIST... just, a guy she dislikes?? Beta simp.
@shoeboxbistro
@shoeboxbistro Жыл бұрын
You know the cop schloppy is gonna be good when the cop is hunky
@flow81929
@flow81929 Жыл бұрын
​@Darren Gordon-Hill are you dumb? Stfu you're humiliating yourself
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
@@flow81929 Are you able to explain WHY I'm wrong... or are you just triggered by the word "rape ?
@subtlebluntduality5997
@subtlebluntduality5997 Жыл бұрын
Great video. A reason why he was this way goes back to his time as a college basketball player at Ohio State. He used to watch the football practices when Woody Hayes coached the team because he admired him. A lot of the stuff you saw with Bobby Knight, you saw with Woody Hayes. Supposedly he was warned not to follow Hayes' example too closely because eventually he was going to go too far, which is what happened when he punched an opposing Clemson player in the 1978 Gator Bowl and got fired as a result. As a matter of fact, you should do a Rewinder on that Woody Hayes incident.
@prophet2nations
@prophet2nations Жыл бұрын
Always love the additional context of beef to be found in the comments. Learn something new after the video
@lucashenderson2775
@lucashenderson2775 Жыл бұрын
This is a very important detail. He's practically a mirror image of Woody Hayes: Untouchable because of their success, program linked to the state's identity and self esteem, only removed when it became completely unjustifiable to keep them.
@Babyd1112
@Babyd1112 Жыл бұрын
An espn show called top 5 reasons you can't blame... They had an episode on bob Knight, and mention woody.
@lucashenderson2775
@lucashenderson2775 Жыл бұрын
@@Babyd1112 I remember seeing that here on KZfaq one day when I was bored. In that segment, one of the papers even had a cartoon of Bob looking into the mirror and seeing Woody Hayes instead of his reflection.
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash Жыл бұрын
Frank Kush was another example of a hard nosed coach, who got the best out of his players whom he worked to death, but eventually crossed the line, and would lose his job as a result too.
@taylorb5039
@taylorb5039 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of Saturday, thank you Clara and co !!
@joboee
@joboee Жыл бұрын
It goes to show in sports, as long as you are winning, fans will put up with damn near anything
@Pranaynaynay
@Pranaynaynay Жыл бұрын
It's kind of sad to think that Knight might never have had consequences if the on court performance of the team stayed top tier we kind of see echoes with how urban meyer was able to employ awful abusers and assaulters and not have repurcussions and how many people protested when Joe Paterno was fired after Sandusky's evil crimes were revealed
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv Жыл бұрын
Then urban went to an NFL team, and couldn't last an entire season
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 10 ай бұрын
More echoes in how many people defend Gym Jordan aka Sandusky 2.0 in Ohio, simply because he's a republican.
@DGS2605
@DGS2605 Жыл бұрын
I put these on sometimes for background noise, as the video goes on, I'm thinking "How did this guy have his job for so long? Was this the 50s?". Imagine if this guy wasn't coaching young men on scholarships and had to deal with grown men who had leverage against him. He'd get his ass beat before the 2nd practice.
@ethanwu6016
@ethanwu6016 Жыл бұрын
I just watched the ESPN doc on Knight, crazy coincidence that this come out so soon
@JR_Donofrio
@JR_Donofrio Жыл бұрын
You can do an entire mini series on Bobby Knight Beef
@KevinQuinn81
@KevinQuinn81 Жыл бұрын
Well written. I used to be a Knight apologist in my youth but as I've grown, I just see him now only as the bully he is.
@Flow_Easy
@Flow_Easy Жыл бұрын
That's what's wrong with these kids! How dare they not want to be choked or disrespected?! Those kids are the definition of soft. We need more tough coaches like Bob Knight! Sarcasm. I'm all for coaches and people in authority holding their students/players accountable, but putting your hands on people is unnecessary. Mr Knight should be happy none of those young men introduced him to a nap.
@poeticfrost619
@poeticfrost619 Жыл бұрын
Those young men would've been lynched by the state of Indiana. They should be happy they didn't knock him out
@thehappysmiler6752
@thehappysmiler6752 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that none of those kids gave him a two piece. No fries and chips of course.
@nothanksguy
@nothanksguy Жыл бұрын
​@@thehappysmiler6752 fr! If a fat old man like bob knight did that to me id throw his ass on the ground and ask if he wants to keep getting physical
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 Жыл бұрын
He knew who he could do it to and get away with it he never tried it on guys like Isaiah or Mike Woodson those guys were tough kids from tough neighborhoods and had tough parents. Knight respected that he knew where that line was with them.
@logank
@logank Жыл бұрын
Current IU student and IU basketball fan. I never really understood why people look past all this, but I can confirm many people in the area still very much so treat Bob Knight like royalty for some reason.
@pineapplegamer6986
@pineapplegamer6986 Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode. No one ever openly talks about this when you’re a fan of IU basketball, merely whispers or offhand comments.
@codycannefaxjr.616
@codycannefaxjr.616 Жыл бұрын
I used to be really good friends with his grandson. He told me personally a lot of the allegations against him were true and the university of Indiana let him get away with it until the stories got bigger and bigger. He also said his grandfather was really upset when ESPN sabotaged him in the documentary after working for them for many years. As he got older and suffers from dementia, his family thinks the media wanted to attack him when he can’t even defend himself anymore.
@SnapperX3
@SnapperX3 Жыл бұрын
University of Indiana. Enough said.
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa Жыл бұрын
@@SnapperX3 Hoosiers in general are odd, Kentucky is somehow more progressive a community
@reedbell365
@reedbell365 Жыл бұрын
“Nobody ever explained that to me”. ZERO TOLERANCE. Really 😅
@josher71
@josher71 Жыл бұрын
Right?!
@jaygallardo5252
@jaygallardo5252 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Knight will go down in the end as one of the greatest embarrassments in sports history. He talked about making his teams disciplined and never had any himself. He was cruel to staff and members of the university throughout his career. And when he was called out for his appalling behavior he lashed out with even more cruelty. He is THE example of how winning is above all else in college sports and also the reason why this kind of behavior should never be tolerated ever again. He is a dinosaur. Let him and his ways be as extinct as they are.
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
"Discplinary for thee, but not for me. General Knight, leader of men." UrinatingTree if he was a hoosier instead of yinzer.
@matthewhallberg8256
@matthewhallberg8256 Жыл бұрын
@@musyarofah1 Between UrinatingTree and Secret Base, you don't need anything else from Sports KZfaq.
@Evs78101
@Evs78101 Жыл бұрын
Hell yes. Great pick for a beef history. Makes me wanna throw a chair
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 Жыл бұрын
As long as Indiana was winning Big 10 and NCAA championships, the university was willing to put up with his behavior. When the Hoosiers started being less successful, the university was looking for a reason to get rid of Knight, and Bobby handed them the reason on a silver platter.
@dre-p3058
@dre-p3058 8 ай бұрын
That's not right either
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 6 ай бұрын
Bobby created his own destruction too. Like many abusive people, they usually have a system where they create dependence and stockholm syndrome, which they deny, gaslight, call the victims whiners and soft(like all the comments section trolls are doing) and their victims will defend them until the end. But once he started stepping over that line and the top recruits started running away to be treated with some dignity, they started losing. He couldnt leverage the IU name to win for him anymore, and that was his biggest mistake. Because his behavioral issues were intentional, not at all a mistake.
@M-Myrtle-R
@M-Myrtle-R Жыл бұрын
I love Clara Morris!!! She is the absolute best and is now the face of this channel when I think about it😂😂😊😊
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Simp
@flow81929
@flow81929 Жыл бұрын
​@Darren Gordon-Hill god you're a pathetic kid
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me that the turning point for Indiana Basketball was their opening game of the season , when they lost to coach Pete Bell and his Western University. Of course that Weatern team DID have freshmen Shaq & Penny Hardaway to go along with Ricky Roe’s shooting, and they still had Tony playing his senior year (this was before the truth of Tony’s point shaving during his freshman year came to light). Indiana never really recovered from that, being that their best player at the time was Calvert Cheaney.
@sfrank8687
@sfrank8687 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@Adamdidit
@Adamdidit Жыл бұрын
A Blue Chips reference in 2023. ❤
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 Жыл бұрын
@@Adamdidit it’s an underrated classic
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 Жыл бұрын
Tony fluked television
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 Жыл бұрын
@@williamgullett5911 yea but that class is hard. It’s not just watching the tube. And anyway he got a tutor. His point shaving was a much bigger issue. Damn Happy.
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 Жыл бұрын
Have Knight coach Latrell Sprewell. We can take bets on who will get choked out and when it will happen.
@oldheadprisonofficer7024
@oldheadprisonofficer7024 Жыл бұрын
We tried but Sprewell said $21 million in three years wasn't enough to fed his kids
@4eve-R
@4eve-R Жыл бұрын
can we appreciate how the music makes all of Secret Bases videos that much more intriguing to watch??
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Music is awful and emotionally manipulative Typical for a woman
@emantabrizi8218
@emantabrizi8218 Жыл бұрын
Some NCAA fan bases are flat-out embarrassing. I still can't get over the behavior of Penn State football fans after the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
@goodfellabeats
@goodfellabeats Жыл бұрын
Indiana fans are clowns for not disowning this guy. Knight never apologized and never tried to make things right. Fans accepted him back just because. Makes them look just as bad as him.
@zakberliner7926
@zakberliner7926 Жыл бұрын
I was an IU student from 2012-2016, but I’m originally from California, so I had no stake in the game. The way I saw it, he was a nut job whose firing was inevitable and a good move for the university. My convictions were hardened after the whole Mike Rice thing at Rutgers. However, I was one of the only ones who felt this way. Most people I spoke to, from the IU or Bloomington communities, still defended him and viewed him as the wronged party. The failings of the university in basketball were because he was fired (ignoring the lack of success in the late ‘90s). People still went wild when he’d come up on the big board before games, either as a photo or the clip of him throwing the chair. Then the opinion of him slowly started to change. I had heard that for a while, he hadn’t even come to Bloomington. But he slowly started to probe, having speaking events off campus. People started to see him as a crazy grudge-holding old man when he refused to come to Guyton’s Hall of Fame ceremony. That perception was amplified when he didn’t come to the ceremony for the 1976 team, despite literally everyone wanting him to. Even his son tried to tell him to come back. He also stumped for Trump in southern Indiana during the 2016 election, which turned off some of the IU and Bloomington population (Bloomington is possibly the most liberal city in the state). When he finally came back, a lot of the people I spoke to were a bit apathetic, like it was too little, too late. When Woodson, a Hoosier legend under Knight, was hired, that completed the healing. Now Bobby has attended practices. Meanwhile, Guyton is a trustee. Yet I’m sure most people still view him as a god there, ignoring all the things he did.
@kirklandmattison707
@kirklandmattison707 Жыл бұрын
He ran a great furniture store. If you bought a sofa, he would throw in a chair.
@dannyboy1200
@dannyboy1200 Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. If in the last couple years before his firing he won a couple championships he'd never have been fired.
@DeepDiveDiscipleship
@DeepDiveDiscipleship Жыл бұрын
What kind of moral bankruptcy do you have to have to justify this man's behaviour in the name of sports?
@philb.1502
@philb.1502 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Knight was a disgraceful bully that verbally and physically abused his players, coaches, fans, and referees. He was allowed to get away with it because he was a highly successful coach. Should have been fired 20 years before they actually did it. He's very similar to Woody Hayes!!
@grammysworld5449
@grammysworld5449 Жыл бұрын
Bro was pushing kids into trashcans 🤣🤣
@cnote729
@cnote729 Жыл бұрын
Wow he brought a whip to his team, all Hell naw! I remember the rape comment, him wiping his butt showing the team. He was definitely a pos
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
As a paraplegic hostage about to be gang raped for the 5th time today... how do you plan to fight it?? How will you resolve it by... NOT enjoying it??
@abrahammorrison6374
@abrahammorrison6374 Жыл бұрын
Former Duke Coach K's mentor was Bobby Knight at Army.
@mc76
@mc76 Жыл бұрын
I was a junior at IU the year that they went undefeated--the last team to do so--and he was infamous even then. He would veto concerts at Assembly Hall---even though he had absolutely no authority to do so---because he thought all the hippies would scar the arena's hardwood floor, which was covered by thick pads and tarp. President Ryan and AD Ralph Floyd let him get away with it. He rear-ended a student at a stoplight and blamed the kid for not getting off the light quickly enough. The student was given a ticket for reckless driving. Even the Bloomington Police were in his back pocket. There is no bigger fan of IU basketball than I, but I celebrated the day he was shown the door.
@ValSempai
@ValSempai Жыл бұрын
lmao the kind of coach you hope runs into someone like Latrell Sprewell xD
@relix7373
@relix7373 10 ай бұрын
Lou Henson was the anti-Bob Knight. They coached together for over 20 years during the peak of the Illinois-Indiana rivalry. While Knight had more accolades, Henson is still revered today while Knight is increasingly remembered as the shitbag he was. Some guys are overly competitive or passionate, and we give them a pass like Jordan. However Knight time and time again just went too far.
@terenceflynn4555
@terenceflynn4555 Жыл бұрын
Something y’all didn’t mention is that one of his players, Mike Woodson, is the coach now. That’s part of the reason that He came back, is because the Crean and Miller instructions had effectively forced a “Bob Knight” call back, so they went with Woodson. And he’s been a huge reason that Knight’s reintegrated with IU B-Ball.
@robertbui9030
@robertbui9030 6 ай бұрын
at the very least Mike Woodson is NOT like Bob Knight in terms of behaviour/discipline
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 6 ай бұрын
Yeah by call back they meant "to be able to establish a link to the guy." For recruiting purposes, because college basketball is all about recruitment, not about skill development or tactical intelligence. You have to leverage your history to trick teenagers into thinking they'll somehow inherit the powers of success they had from people who are in their 60's now There's no way he was going to be able to act like him and it not immediately start rumors.
@rngfootball759
@rngfootball759 Жыл бұрын
A dry aged Kobe wagyu steak worthy of a beef history. Legendary feud between Bobby Knight and IU administration. The chair is still one of my favorite moments.
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 Жыл бұрын
Knight is a top 5 coach in college basketball history, that never committed any violations (that we know of), graduated his players and got the absolute best out of there abilities. But the guy, his temper and his ego, was out of control and enabled for too long at that University. He got what he deserved.
@magarthur3420
@magarthur3420 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how Paterno was treated at Penn State and what eventually happened because of it
@williamrodenbeck1196
@williamrodenbeck1196 Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in Indiana with Purdue fans for parents, I never heard anything but good things about Bobby Knight. My dad watched the game where he threw true chair when it was on tv. He was a really really problematic person, but if you win basketball games in Indiana, Hoosiers will love you forever and ever
@workaccount8732
@workaccount8732 Жыл бұрын
"Allegedly shoved an LSU fan into a garbage can" is hilarious tho
@freddyrod2948
@freddyrod2948 Жыл бұрын
After seeing all the Indiana students protest Knight’s firing, maybe they should have dressed up the donkey in Indiana apparel instead of Purdue.
@kylemurray3526
@kylemurray3526 Жыл бұрын
It’s just how we are culturally in the US. Character is nice to have, but winning/being successful is really the only thing that truly matters. And if you’re good enough at what you do, there’s very little you can do wrong. People will make all sorts of excuses all day for you and attack the messengers. He only got canned because he fell off.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
As opposed to propping up losers??? If I sucked at the job/was wholly unqualified but was REALLY POLITE AND KIND, would you hire me??
@NateCooper111
@NateCooper111 Жыл бұрын
@@darrengordon-hill bit of a non sequitur. There's plenty of competent college coaches that aren't racist sexist clowns
@samuelstensgaard4828
@samuelstensgaard4828 Жыл бұрын
​@@darrengordon-hill Darren, you need to calm down
@poisonoak2719
@poisonoak2719 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think a university’s fan base and support network could present themselves more shamefully than Penn State’s after Joe Paterno was fired, boy was I wrong…
@ilikenothingtoo
@ilikenothingtoo Жыл бұрын
This is definitely bad, but that was way worse.
@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545
@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 Жыл бұрын
Lol hitting grown men and saying mean things is definitely much worse than r8ping kids. What a clown comment
@poisonoak2719
@poisonoak2719 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikenothingtoo the crime committed was definitely worse than what Knight did but I’m referring to the reaction to the dismissal
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 Жыл бұрын
the only reason people are so hard on Coach Paterno is because he became bigger than the university. he didn’t commit any crimes, he did exactly what the state of PA required them to do. anyone who says they would’ve done more, they are lying to themselves. it’s easy to say you would’ve done more when you aren’t actually presented with the issue. in the end, it falls solely on the University, the AD, and the President…..they gave the monster the access not the coach. that’s why the fans acted they way they did. victimize and gaslit a man when everyone would’ve done the same thing…
@bangaamen501
@bangaamen501 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what I'm happy about a brief History a brief History involving bob Knight or that Clara is doing the commentary 😍😍😍👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@kapowjam3462
@kapowjam3462 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy a secret base video and one where we hear from Clara. Didn't know any of this Indiana basketball history. Really surprised that 20 years later they still were so excited to have this couch come back with all of that. More so his extremely long beef with the school rather than all the stuff he did while at the school, unfortunately.
@jackr3998
@jackr3998 Жыл бұрын
It’s an extremely biased video
@GandalfBiceps
@GandalfBiceps Жыл бұрын
Anybody that's spent a few years in the state will tell you it's not surprising that so many people acted like this.
@golden-sun
@golden-sun Жыл бұрын
Along with Philadelphians and Ohions, Indianans... Indianites? Are my least favorite people
@bartcooper2920
@bartcooper2920 Жыл бұрын
@@golden-sun The worst midwestern person is a better person than the nicest Californian
@golden-sun
@golden-sun Жыл бұрын
@@bartcooper2920 actually good point I hate Californians too
@DunlapZazoombazaffodil
@DunlapZazoombazaffodil Жыл бұрын
@@bartcooper2920 you just mad you can’t live by the beach sad lil guy 🤡🤡
@keatonparker4789
@keatonparker4789 Жыл бұрын
@@bartcooper2920 wasn’t John Wayne Gacy a midwesterner?
@imthesnakeking
@imthesnakeking Жыл бұрын
What a great day, Secret Base posted!
@renrose7508
@renrose7508 Жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Hoosier, I can confirm his legendary status inIndiana, growing up in Bluffton, IN, his picture hung on the wall next to Clinton. All of my basketball coaches literally worshiped this doofus as did my grandfather and my dad
@grantcastleman7116
@grantcastleman7116 Жыл бұрын
dont call the Goat a doofus
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Thanks for virtue signalling on KZfaq. Sure your wife's boyfriend is proud of you
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv Жыл бұрын
​@@grantcastleman7116that rape quote is enough to call him a doofus. You only say that when your brain is smooth enough to skate over it
@KillyJoe
@KillyJoe Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your dad and grandpa were some good guys wonder where they went wrong
@1USACitizen192
@1USACitizen192 6 ай бұрын
The coaches worshipped clinton????
@apierre6
@apierre6 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. It's unfortunate that the investigations only started once the basketball team struggled. It makes you wonder, if Indiana had continued to be a top 10 program and win national championships would there ever been an investigation? Could he have just kept abusing players for another decade?
@ahogg5960
@ahogg5960 Жыл бұрын
Yeah just ask the Chicago Blackhawks...
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
Just look at Penn State.
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv Жыл бұрын
It's really dark that the comments are filled with "yes, look at another place where abuse was allowed to be down" I guess I'll add to it, albeit a much lighter example. Look at the astros. The answer is yes
@Jvwc1
@Jvwc1 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he is still loved today by so many is shocking. With people getting offended so easily and for him to do criminal stuff, yet still be a hero is the most incredible thing ever
@toilet4441
@toilet4441 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a praising of what he did off the court but what was done on the court. He had a fire and intensity to his coaching. He is absolutely beloved here in Indiana and he always will be. You can hate the artist, and feel free to, but you shouldn’t be ashamed if you enjoy a piece of their art
@lucasgales3008
@lucasgales3008 Жыл бұрын
@@toilet4441 I mean sure his coaching may have been a winning style but it’s a little different then art from artist his coaching style directly lead to this incidents
@toilet4441
@toilet4441 Жыл бұрын
@@lucasgales3008 his coaching style had nothing to do with the terrible things he did and said. If you’re talking about his aggressive coaching style, that is most certainly a product of his time in the army back in the 60’s in the middle of the Vietnam war. Sure he didn’t go to Nam but just being in basic training during that time is hell. This led him to be aggressive in his teaching of basketball. And don’t get me wrong, HE SAID AND DID REALLY BAD THINGS, but there is a reason there was backlash by players that were under him when the university booted him. I feel it is very apparent that the lack of mental toughness by the kids in the 90’s was a direct cause of the dwindling success of the IU program at that time. The fact that the players of the 80’s revere him tells me that they embraced the hardship it was to be coached by him and that’s why they were successful
@mjolnirandrails8785
@mjolnirandrails8785 Жыл бұрын
Including IU's current coach.
@toilet4441
@toilet4441 Жыл бұрын
@@mjolnirandrails8785 exactly. Woodson isn’t a cutthroat guy like Knight but he obviously retained the stuff he learned and made IU a ranked team for basically the entire season
@Los150
@Los150 Жыл бұрын
Clara Morris is so damn good at this. 🐐
@poseidonson13
@poseidonson13 Жыл бұрын
Feels like this episode was less a beef between Knight and Indiana, and more Knight vs The very concept of accountability.
@devinpettus9262
@devinpettus9262 Жыл бұрын
Nobody ever explained what "zero tolerance" means is an incredible thing to say on TV
@tysonsutton9621
@tysonsutton9621 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, double post: I also wanted to point out that Michael Lewis, the player who did the most to smear Neil Reed’s reputation and defend Bobby Knight, went on to a successful coaching career and has never publicly apologized for his verbal attacks on Reed.
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking of. Lewis was an ignorant scumbag who looked the other way, just like everyone else in Indiana.
@IRuiz805
@IRuiz805 Жыл бұрын
Sadly he never got his apology, Neil Reed died in 2012 fr a heart attack, he was my PE teacher in high school.
@cnote729
@cnote729 Жыл бұрын
It's really sick and demented of ppl that support Knight...truly disgusting
@loucaruso3971
@loucaruso3971 Жыл бұрын
After Indiana Fired Him He Went To Coach At Texas Tech !!! HOW CAN YOU LEAVE THAT OUT ????
@liamkenney3933
@liamkenney3933 Жыл бұрын
Not too relevant to his beef with IU i guess, except Texas Tech also wears red lol
@coachmcguirk6297
@coachmcguirk6297 Жыл бұрын
John Stamos in that Disney show plays an angry coach who got fired for throwing a chair. The character seems to be loosely inspired by this coach.
@Jason-uw9ex
@Jason-uw9ex Жыл бұрын
Ron Swanson on Parks and Rec, too.
@matthewforbes2969
@matthewforbes2969 Жыл бұрын
Rewinder: the miracle of Istanbul Rewinder: Miami fsu, either of the wide rights Rewinder: 1991 World Series Rewinder: Sidney Crosby’s golden goal Rewinder: John Paxton’s game winning 3 in 1993 finals Beef history: olympiacos vs panathinaikos Beef history: miami vs fsu Beef history: Michael Jordan vs Isiah Thomas Beef history: Barcelona vs Real Madrid Beef history: George Steinbrenner vs Billy Martin Beef history, George Steinbrenner vs Dave Winfield Collapse: how the Montreal Canadiens failed to reach sniffing distance of lord Stanley for 28 years Collapse: how the Buffalo Bills failure to win one of 4 straight Super Bowls led to 2 decades of failure Collapse: how Arsenal went from the top of the premier league, to meddling mediocrity Collapse: how the Toronto Blue Jays went from back to back titles to decades long drought Collapse: how the Tony Gwynn San Diego padres went from contenders to rock bottom Collapse: how the Vancouver Canucks went from one of the best teams in the league to bottom of the pit Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: marcel Dionne Untitled: Roberto luongo Untitled: pavel Bure Untitled: Barry sanders Untitled: Johan Cruyff in the World Cup Untitled: Dominique Wilkins
@pittland44
@pittland44 Жыл бұрын
You're forgetting Beef History: Steinbrenner vs Costanza.
@epicchk4319
@epicchk4319 Жыл бұрын
@@pittland44 Beef History: Ayrton Senna vs Alain Prost Rewinder: Liverpool vs FC Barcelona 2019 Collapse: FC Barcelona in the Champions League since 2014 Untiteled Jose Mourinho Collapse : Juventus Turin
@ck-1649
@ck-1649 Жыл бұрын
Rewinder: 1995 ALDS
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
​@@epicchk4319 what kind of untitled Mou have?
@epicchk4319
@epicchk4319 Жыл бұрын
@@musyarofah1 Being successful but he can only stay on a team for 3 years before everything becomes toxic
@ryanstrahm2865
@ryanstrahm2865 Жыл бұрын
I was a student at IU when he came back for the 2020 game (which we lost lol) and I was definitely excited and most people I knew were too. I think it had a lot to do with people hearing about Knight from their parents, and only getting the good parts. None of us even remembered him getting fired or looked further into why. Nowadays though, anytime I see pictures of him at practice (apparently he was going every week for the 22-23 season) it's like this weird figure that the program doesn't want to shun, but doesn't really want to be in the spotlight. I'm sure the new approach has to do a lot with one of his players being the HC and the new president who desperately wants to seem "cool".
@SirRavixofFourhorn
@SirRavixofFourhorn Жыл бұрын
Kinda despicable that the fans still wanted him to come back after all that he did.
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa Жыл бұрын
That's Indiana, the Mississippi of the Midwest.....I live on the Ohio side in a bordering County, I still drive to Kentucky but avoid the Hoosier state at all costs. Cincinnati is between so many dimensions of our country
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 6 ай бұрын
Indiana is not known as a particularly intelligent state. And I couldnt help but notice on that frozen picture of the IU students holding up the sign that there were not very many attractive students in that picture either.
Жыл бұрын
Love the Clara content, keep em coming
@superdopenova6231
@superdopenova6231 Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see beef I click
@junkscorpion7011
@junkscorpion7011 Жыл бұрын
I swear Bobby Knight use to scare the hell outta me back in the late 80s early 90s glad he was NEVER my coach😳
@macbradf
@macbradf Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@SethKasso
@SethKasso Жыл бұрын
The lengths people will go to to defend and worship a clearly-awful person...
@gregorydryden7865
@gregorydryden7865 10 ай бұрын
The perfect example of an abusive Narcissist mixed with genius basketball IQ
@bradensalazar3881
@bradensalazar3881 Жыл бұрын
Bobby knight doing his best Donald Trump impression
@missayawk
@missayawk Жыл бұрын
If ANYBODY was ever in need of anger management.....this was the poster child.
@MatthewDoel32
@MatthewDoel32 Жыл бұрын
Oh this is a Beef History I've been waiting years for.
@ahpuro
@ahpuro Жыл бұрын
ahh yes, the famous Chair Jordan
@slushisue
@slushisue Жыл бұрын
My dad was one of the lawyers on the assistant coach lawsuit. Bob knight lost and they had to figure out damages. I'm not joking when I say one of the solutions was: Bob knight signs 100 basketballs and gives them to the other guy who then sells them on eBay and keeps 100% of the money. Knight declined and just payed $25,000 instead which I think is way lamer.
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Knight is a good example of someone who I like, but don't respect. Meaning, I was always entertained by him but I KNEW he was a bad person even when I was young enough to know who he was. He always smacked me of someone who needed help. Perfect example of a lolcow who happened to be successful. Cuz trust me, Knight has everything necessary to be a lolcow.
@spidermonkeynuts3851
@spidermonkeynuts3851 Жыл бұрын
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