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Boeing 747 Crashes in Guam | The Terrifying Story of Flight 801 (Real Audio)

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TheFlightChannel

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We've opened a new channel ‪@TheAvChannel‬ that will feature shorter videos related to aviation but not only to air disasters. We would love it if you could check it out and give us your thoughts about it. Love you all! ❤️
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:20 Departure from Seoul
1:25 Arrival to the Guam Area
2:17 Rest Issues
3:05 Descending into Guam
5:15 Getting Closer to the Ground
6:21 Real Audio Communications
7:02 Approaching High Terrain
7:45 Crash
9:22 ATC Communications
10:51 Investigation

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@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up Жыл бұрын
An 11 year old girl and her mother both survived the crash. However, the mom died in the fire because she was trapped under wreckage, saw the fire and told her daughter to run. The girl survived and was eventually reunited with her dad who wasn’t on the plane.
@itzblackys
@itzblackys Жыл бұрын
Dang
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 Жыл бұрын
Wow , how strange to be a single survivor. Poor child to loose her mother like that. Condolences to all the families who lost loved ones that day.
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up Жыл бұрын
@@blazefairchild465 There were 25 survivors total. The 11 year girl came under the care of one of the flight attendants and the governor of Guam until her dad arrived.
@f1fanatic498
@f1fanatic498 Жыл бұрын
So her mother didn’t survive then
@Randomly_Browsing
@Randomly_Browsing Жыл бұрын
​@@f1fanatic498 the earlier already said it
@Sebastian-Westhoff
@Sebastian-Westhoff Жыл бұрын
cool video with a sad ending! -didnt like the fake voices to be honest -absolutley loved ATC comms after the crash
@tylerpaps4137
@tylerpaps4137 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree. The AI voices were totally cringe. I've been a subscriber for some time now and have enjoyed mostly all of the videos. This particular video with the AI voices and that terrible impact explosion was not up to the standards that this channel usually displays. It's like a child produced it.
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up Жыл бұрын
One guy managed to survive because he was bending down to tie his shoes just as the plane crashed and was unintentionally in the brace position.
@brentbecroft2890
@brentbecroft2890 Жыл бұрын
Correct. This was a Kiwi guy. He actually walked away and went to the shop to buy some fresh clothes after the crash as they were dirty.
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan Жыл бұрын
@@brentbecroft2890 Oh. My. God. 😨
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up Жыл бұрын
@@brentbecroft2890 had a broken leg too because his leg hit the steel bar of the seat in front of him. His other leg wasn’t broken because it was protected by his carry on bag
@sarasunland8912
@sarasunland8912 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it's just not your time!
@WinterDutchie
@WinterDutchie Жыл бұрын
yea, he got a broken leg/foot(?) too when the seat in-front broke and crushed his leg/foot
@davidtimmins4074
@davidtimmins4074 Жыл бұрын
In those days Korean Air was controlled by Chairman Cho who was also head of Hanjin. He instructed many staff to cut corners and save on fuel/overhead. The last straw was the crash at Stansted airport when Mr. Cho stepped down and the airline has never had a crash since.
@vanceb1
@vanceb1 Жыл бұрын
I flew on KAL recently. It's the best airline I've ever flown on. I guess it's good that Cho guy left.
@DMVRailfan
@DMVRailfan Жыл бұрын
Not a fatal one though. Remember Korean Air 631? That one wasn’t really the airline’s or the pilots fault though.
@PVTKR
@PVTKR 12 күн бұрын
Never trust KAL
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion Жыл бұрын
Love your work as always!! Please never use AI voices again. I HATE THEM!!
@brendawg8002
@brendawg8002 Жыл бұрын
Great videos, but the AI voices are atrocious!
@ecclestonsangel
@ecclestonsangel Жыл бұрын
They weren't AI voices...it was the channel creator's voice.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota Жыл бұрын
Either way I think that you should keep the original form factor. The Voice Overs really aren’t necessary for this. This is already a great channel. Don’t clutter it with the Voice Overs.
@brendawg8002
@brendawg8002 Жыл бұрын
@@ecclestonsangel It says in the video that they're AI generated...
@maudessen573
@maudessen573 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Please only use real audio when you have it.
@maxtornogood
@maxtornogood Жыл бұрын
Outdated charts, pilot fatigue, poor CRM & ATC error. This disaster was inevitable.
@davidmoore1253
@davidmoore1253 Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, if any one of those factors had been corrected the accident would probably have been avoided.
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 Жыл бұрын
“inevitable … yet totally avoidable.” Tragic.
@kenhall5551
@kenhall5551 Жыл бұрын
Yes. All around cluster f__K
@FirstLast_Nba
@FirstLast_Nba Жыл бұрын
Destined not inevitable.
@tedyi8588
@tedyi8588 Жыл бұрын
+ No Gluide slope in stormy conditions
@vanceb1
@vanceb1 Жыл бұрын
I lived on Guam from 1990-1993. I lived in Navy housing on Nimitz Hill. The aircraft on approach to Won Pat flew right over my house. This thing must have missed that house by 10 feet. I was there on unrelated business a week after this happened. We went to the crash site. It was a sobering sight. The vertical stabilizer was sticking up out of the jungle and completely undamaged. My first thought was, "This thing just doesn't belong here." It was an eerie sight.
@mattkalafsky5248
@mattkalafsky5248 3 ай бұрын
We lived there during the crash (my dad was in the navy and we lived in the naval housing on nimitz hill as well) and my dad recalls walking out and the air reeked of jet fuel and the air had an eerie haze to it. So tragic
@doknbox
@doknbox Жыл бұрын
I was a doctor at the Navy Hospital there that night. This was not the normal crew that flew to Guam. They usually flew an Airbus on that route, but Guam had requested a 747 instead, so that they could take the Guam Olympic team to the South Pacific games. I was so frustrated at the lack of survivors who were taken to the hospital. The aircraft impacted on its belly and burned slowly, but emergency equipment could not get to the crash sit, because it ended up on the downward slope of Nimitz Hill. The crew tried to initiate a missed approach, but the landing gear got caught on a small oil pipe, which brought the aircraft onto the ground
@josephconnor2310
@josephconnor2310 Жыл бұрын
The AI voices not so hot. Otherwise, excellent video.
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@skullsaintdead
@skullsaintdead Жыл бұрын
It wasn't mentioned: 25 of the 254 aboard survived. 31 were pulled alive from the wreck but 2 died en route to hospital and 3 died later in hospital. 3 flight attendants survived but all cockpit crew members died. Somewhat unusually, there is a reasonable distribution of survival seats throughout the plane, strangely with 1st Class being the most survivable (7 people out of 12 seats - don't know if they were all filled - survived).
@getmeouttatennessee4473
@getmeouttatennessee4473 Жыл бұрын
Ty, I spent the whole time wondering the person count onboard and at the end, if everyone perished. I thought I missed something again.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
@@getmeouttatennessee4473 Could the FC please let the final frame up for another ten seconds so that we have time to read and digest the information that is provided. This request has been made multiple times by others.
@outerrealm
@outerrealm Жыл бұрын
That’s another reason to give this thumbs down. No excuse for leaving that out. This guy knows better, he got lazy.
@outerrealm
@outerrealm Жыл бұрын
@@deepthinker999 He doesn’t care, he doesn’t have to care, he’s already got 1.4 million followers.
@Randomly_Browsing
@Randomly_Browsing Жыл бұрын
​@@outerrealm how exactly
@ricbarker4829
@ricbarker4829 Жыл бұрын
I try not to give negative comments on videos as I appreciate the effort and hard work that goes into them, especially when I know I couldn't come close to doing a video as polished as The Flight Channel.....however......I wasn't a fan of the AI voice overs. They sound horrible and are not really needed as the viewer has already read what has been said. Using the real recorded voices from the cockpit recorder and ATC tapes are great for obvious reasons, but using voice overs when you don't have actual recordings spoils it for me.
@thrasyvoulas
@thrasyvoulas Жыл бұрын
Great video as always The AI generated dialogue is not necessary
@SuperLordHawHaw
@SuperLordHawHaw Жыл бұрын
Nothing good can come from "whoop whoop" I don't understand why flight crews seem afraid to ask for confirmation from ATC if they are unsure about something. They were unsure about the glideslope.
@dbnmore
@dbnmore Жыл бұрын
Most probably due to fatigue
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Жыл бұрын
Maintaining Social Status???
@doctoremil2678
@doctoremil2678 Жыл бұрын
Korean Air at the time had a lot of problems with CRM. Dominant captains and subordinate first officers were the norm. Two years later, a Korean Air Cargo 747 crashed in England shortly after takeoff due to captain's mistake and first officer's lack of courage to challenge the captain.
@user-underdasea
@user-underdasea Жыл бұрын
Actually, 3 More planes crashed in August 1998(flight 8702(747-400)), march&April 1999(flight 1533(md-83)&6316(md-11)).
@josephpacelli3691
@josephpacelli3691 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason why the FO is second in command situations like this
@shattrd3
@shattrd3 Жыл бұрын
this is part of why this plane crashed
@Mr1990hjc
@Mr1990hjc Жыл бұрын
In the 80's (?) a KAL cargo jet burned up on the ground, somewhere in Korea. The pilot had been admonished earlier for some minor mistake, and was in no position to get "dinged" again, (loss of face). The cockpit crew was almost to the door when the flames got inside the cabin, and the pilot told them to stop and get back to their seats ! They did, and they all burned to death.
@user-underdasea
@user-underdasea Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1990hjc u meant korean air flight 015. That plane was passenger plane.
@DEAJP10
@DEAJP10 Жыл бұрын
These videos have NEVER looked so good! The flight sim is fantastic but I even include the font and resolution of the text! I’ve been watching this channel for years and can’t praise them enough for always wanting to improve! Thanks again to The Flight Channel.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota Жыл бұрын
That’s very true but the Voice Overs are not necessary.
@busfan9874
@busfan9874 Жыл бұрын
I think this is P3D. This is the PMDG 747.
@SpidaMez
@SpidaMez Жыл бұрын
its P3d v5
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
MSFS?
@jasonkarlavige8412
@jasonkarlavige8412 Жыл бұрын
@@K1OIK Microsoft Flight Simulator. Great sim, but like others said this was likely made with P3d
@bfischerr
@bfischerr Жыл бұрын
Normally, great videos, but the AI voices were really distracting on this one
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@enigmawyoming5201
@enigmawyoming5201 Жыл бұрын
The fake voices (with real audio) distracted me so much I couldn’t tell anybody how this event turned out. Everybody lived!! Right??
@jgcrum
@jgcrum Жыл бұрын
Agreed - the voices in English sounded like other Asian countries speaking English and certainly NOT Korean English. I found the AI voices very distracting..
@ashleychilders2474
@ashleychilders2474 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, disliked the voices
@TheKositi
@TheKositi Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@jasonadamik2206
@jasonadamik2206 Жыл бұрын
I can't figure out why the creator of these videos won't correct the issue that his final text comments telling about the number of people killed, etc. at shown only for a second, nowhere near long enough to read the comments. I'll keep saying this until he notices. This is a bad way to end really good videos.
@getmeouttatennessee4473
@getmeouttatennessee4473 Жыл бұрын
I've been noticing a lack of summary concerning how many survived etc. Very odd. This one has always been really good about it. Someone above posted about the survivors and stories behind it.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
As noted above.
@RomNYC
@RomNYC Жыл бұрын
Great video! No fake voices please.
@Taladar2003
@Taladar2003 Жыл бұрын
I really don't like the AI voices in this one, mostly because they don't sound like actual pilots at all so it breaks immersion. Edit: or rather totally inconsistent. Some were incredibly bad, some were okay. Were there some bits of real audio in there?
@bradsanders407
@bradsanders407 Жыл бұрын
Didn't like the stereotypical Asian speaking English?
@lilcrazyy
@lilcrazyy Жыл бұрын
Wdym they don’t sound like pilots maybe it’s because it’s ai and plus are pilots supposed have a type of voice no so wdym
@ARedMotorcycle
@ARedMotorcycle 10 ай бұрын
@lilcrazyy Invest in commas, genius.
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 6 ай бұрын
@@lilcrazyywoah genius no shit. they were saying they don't like it the ai voice
@blueeyeddevil1
@blueeyeddevil1 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else feel like the new voiceover (audio reading of the cabin crew's dialogue) that was added to this video is unhelpful and distracting? The tone and inflection of the voice don't match with each particular situation being illustrated. It definitely interferes with my reading of the screen text, but maybe that's just me. To be clear, I'm not referring to the actual flight/tower conversational recordings from the incident, only to the voiceover.
@MrCrystalcranium
@MrCrystalcranium Жыл бұрын
The flight crew respected the Captain all the way into the mountain. There's a long history in cultures where seniority is so firmly embedded it's very difficult to displace and create coordinated CRM. BTW, not a fan of the flat tone, emotionless synthesized voices. It's distracting.
@SarahRenz59
@SarahRenz59 Жыл бұрын
@MrCrystalcranium, I'm with you on the synthesized voices. I'd just as soon read the dialog in the subtitles. There's another KZfaq channel, Simply Railway, whose creator also posts mostly videos with subtitles instead of spoken audio. In a recent video he said he was going to do more audio because apparently KZfaq doesn't promote videos with no audio. So maybe that's why TFC decided to try the synthesized voices here.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 Жыл бұрын
Its worse in Asia. I'm not saying its nothing in Western countries, but that top down command thing really is the rule there. See the netflix film "the days" where the managers practically have a breakdown when their bosses get angry with them. And that movie was made by a Japanese filmmaker.
@johnypitman2368
@johnypitman2368 Жыл бұрын
Out of respect for the captain many flight crews just dont correct the captain even when it puts their own life in danger. Hard to imagine but true. Hopefully this serious issue has been addressed
@Rod.Machado
@Rod.Machado Жыл бұрын
Yep, specially with the present culuture in many korean airlines, what the captain says is absolute.
@miroenriquez5473
@miroenriquez5473 Жыл бұрын
out of FEAR (not respect)
@rogerscalf231
@rogerscalf231 Жыл бұрын
It has... they all died.
@californiadreaming9216
@californiadreaming9216 9 ай бұрын
johnnypitman this terrible condition of failure to challenge the Captain on an airliner actually HAS been corrected...to some extent with a concept called Crew Resource Management (CRM). Current FAA law REQUIRES subordinate flight crew member(s) to take control of aircraft when it is in imminent danger, regardless of orders/decisions by superior crew member and prevents airlines from disciplining subordinate crew members after the fact. This has prevented many crashes. That said, the culture of airline captains having absolute, unquestioned authority on airliners is, unfortunately, still persisting with many airlines. Thanks for your comment. Have a great day. 😊
@nigeljames6017
@nigeljames6017 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this channel, however I’m not too certain that the inclusion of A.I. generated speech is necessary. I prefer to read to text if cockpit recordings are not available. Thanks.
@TheGramophoneGirl
@TheGramophoneGirl Жыл бұрын
Great video. Not of a fan of the text being read out.
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@cutsbyrohann
@cutsbyrohann Жыл бұрын
Kindly refrain from adding fake voices in places you don’t have the original. Texts alone are good along with the engine sounds in the bg, unless you have the actual audio which would make it GREAT! Appreciate the work you do, huge fan ❤
@alizierny
@alizierny Жыл бұрын
Great quality video but the addition of the monotone voice for cockpit interactions are ruining it for me.. Don't like it at all...
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ahmadzunaidi
@ahmadzunaidi Жыл бұрын
I would like the channel to maintain the video presentation like it was before, hope can remove the dialogue voices. Kinda annoying.
@MikeGervasi
@MikeGervasi Жыл бұрын
Long time viewer. NO on the AI voice. If there's no actual audio, just reading it is better. Also, showing the ending at the beginning kind of removes any suspense. Otherwise you're videos are still the best in the genre.
@davidmoore1253
@davidmoore1253 Жыл бұрын
Not really a fan of the AI voices, personally.
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
personally?
@hkkim8718
@hkkim8718 Жыл бұрын
I think Malcolm Gladwell devoted a whole chapter on this incident in one of his books attributing the Korean and other cultures where its eloquent non-direct, receiver-oriented language structure may not have worked inside a cockpit. After this incident, Korean Air only allows spoken English in the cockpit and maintains excellent record to this day, Mr. Gladwell wrote. (I forgot the name of the book... Tipping Point, Outlier, What the Dog Saw.) Thanks for the video, great work.
@lebojay
@lebojay Жыл бұрын
That one is Tipping Point, I believe. Gladwell’s work is pseudoscience, but I do think he made a good point about cultural differences when it comes to deference to authority. But then Tenerife could also have been prevented by a more assertive first officer, and those guys were Dutch - a culture known for matter-of-fact directness. That’s why I call that stuff pseudoscience. Two or three cases don’t constitute a dataset.
@lewismartinez5130
@lewismartinez5130 Жыл бұрын
As I recalled it was The Outliers
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
@@lebojay The Tenerife FO was assertive but nothing would have worked on the Captain short of a two by four.
@tomhamm6484
@tomhamm6484 Жыл бұрын
The book is The Outliers. Gladwell is a Journalist, not a scientist. I have read most of his books. It seems to me that most of the topics he covers and the degree of detail he uncovers is outstanding. Plus we have to consider the fact that he has to explain his viewpoints to the greater mass of readers. He makes a case. The total data set for Korean Air Lines is much larger than two or thee. Gladwell enumerated them. The Korean President stopped using the airline. Gladwell explained the role of cultural differences in handing authority. The changes were put in place to change things. As a result, an American( Delta ) culture was adopted for the flight deck operations. As far as your statement that stuff is pseudoscience I'm not going to argue. I'm just going to sit here and grin.
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Жыл бұрын
​@@tomhamm6484 I've never been disappointed by a Gladwell offering since reading The Tipping Point. I worked on election system integrity, and some of his work helped me better understand how people were processing the risks of internet voting - or refusing to do so, staying in sales mode.
@riverwildcat1
@riverwildcat1 Жыл бұрын
This is all too common, or used to be. Sometimes first officers and other crew members are too scared to tell a captain he's wrong, and they go to their deaths in silence.
@jessysun6730
@jessysun6730 Жыл бұрын
Yes ..😢😢😢😢😢🙈💔 ....but must broken rules all people which working at board. ..... . Make stop captain if him wrongs ..... PEOPLE'S WAKE UP !! 😢😢😢😢🙈💔!!!!
@JustMyOpinion_1
@JustMyOpinion_1 Жыл бұрын
IMHO, I’m not a fan of the AI voice. I prefer real audio or subtitles. AI just doesn’t seem to fit.
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@murraystewartj
@murraystewartj Жыл бұрын
The other thing I noticed, and this goes to crew training, was the pilots complaining about their hours and company policy instead of focusing on the job at hand. The whole sterile cockpit thing.
@wildrice3050
@wildrice3050 Жыл бұрын
Korean culture is very hierarchical. The ones in their junior positions rarely challenge their seniors. I am sure this was the case here which partly contributed to the crash.
@Mr1990hjc
@Mr1990hjc Жыл бұрын
I spent a lot of time there in the 80's, and yes tis very true. I participated in a command post exercise at Osan Air Base one year. I worked with a bunch of Korean officers, and we would take smoke breaks together in a hallway near our work station. One night, a bunch of Korean marines were coming out of a day room or something down the hall. These guys saw all the officers, and their smiles disappeared ! They kept walking past us, in a slightly stooped posture, with the right hands holding a salute, and the other hand covering the left butt cheek. When they got within range, the officers ATTACKED. As the marines went by they were slapped on the back of their heads, and kicked in their asses, and without any anger at all. It was like, OK no problem, these are just the rules !
@Mr1990hjc
@Mr1990hjc Жыл бұрын
@@Jurk844 Yes, it was becoming that way in the late 80’s, but it was only a whisper in the wind when I left Asia.
@wildrice3050
@wildrice3050 Жыл бұрын
@@Jurk844 you are in denial if you think a lot has changed. Not enough changed to prevent this from happening.
@wildrice3050
@wildrice3050 Жыл бұрын
@@Jurk844 defamation? Go do some research before speaking. It’s well known Korean work culture is not the best. They are making changes but they still have a long way to go.
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin Жыл бұрын
Maybe so, and American culture of not caring in the slightest about anything other than yourself also contributed its share to the crash.
@kalliou6up
@kalliou6up Жыл бұрын
Them not knowing they would leave this earth in 7 hours once they got on the plane is so sad
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up Жыл бұрын
One thing that wasn’t touched on was South Korea’s cultural values having an effect on the airline because Korean culture often has a hierarchy where the younger people are less likely to speak up in fear of dishonoring their elders.
@nzkshatriya6298
@nzkshatriya6298 Жыл бұрын
Which should be tossed out the window in an CRM environment
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
@@nzkshatriya6298 You are right but easier said than done.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 11 ай бұрын
@@nzkshatriya6298 Unfortunately centuries of culture hierarchy cannot easily be tossed out the window.
@blueblur6447
@blueblur6447 Жыл бұрын
First off your channel is the gold standard of this genre... So with much love I ask to never ever use voice overs or AI.. Detracts so much from your very streamlined and smooth style.
@jeffrapier947
@jeffrapier947 Жыл бұрын
If that was real ATC communications after the crash, those guys had the worst "Meh" reaction.
@ModernVintage31
@ModernVintage31 Жыл бұрын
It was really creepy. For me it crossed an invisible line between “calm” and “DGAF”.
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin Жыл бұрын
@@ModernVintage31 They DGAF before it crashed, and DGAF after
@b.t.356
@b.t.356 Жыл бұрын
Something about the ATC keeping a neutral tone kind of weirds me out. I do believe that they found it necessary to remain as calm as possible, however, I, myself, would have been having an emotional meltdown if someone told me about that. In addition, I found the quality of communication between pilots and controllers to be beyond unacceptable.
@ModernVintage31
@ModernVintage31 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I’ve listened to quite a few ATC recordings through videos like this one and this is the only instance that has hit me as “ATC didn’t GAF about the people and plane that just wrecked”.
@sheilasembly-crum8447
@sheilasembly-crum8447 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@majorminor3367
@majorminor3367 Жыл бұрын
"Oh well he must have crashed then" in a don't give a stuff tone and where's my sandwich
@freda3753
@freda3753 Жыл бұрын
I feel like is tone is far from detached…I feel like it means either « I knew it » or « my career might me over »…
@jaymes1
@jaymes1 9 ай бұрын
I agree, he knew he messed up and was being recorded, shuch a lack of empathy is inhumane
@jeremyrusselldavis
@jeremyrusselldavis Жыл бұрын
I know these are slowed down to get all the information but I wish at least once we could see it at full speed to determine how difficult it is to make timely decisions in that situation to save the flight?
@Trustkillx
@Trustkillx Жыл бұрын
Anyone else always think of having a Pepsi when the see Korean Air?
@leskoory
@leskoory Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the amazing work of an art done by the flight channel.
@Sno4lfe
@Sno4lfe Жыл бұрын
No AI voices please✨ Love your work!
@thebrownknowser
@thebrownknowser Жыл бұрын
I always find your content fascinating. I remember this tragedy and it was interesting to watch the reenactment. But I have to say I don't like the added artificial voices. I can read the quoted dialogue and find the fake voices distracting. Cheers!
@LV2UJC-FM
@LV2UJC-FM Жыл бұрын
This was very sad. There are quite a few airports worldwide surrounded by high hills and mountains, making it difficult for pilots to land in bad weather, and to even consider building one in dangerous areas like this is a disaster waiting to happen, especially back when they didn't have the high technology built into commercial planes as they do nowadays, even with all the tech it's not easy. I'm sorry to the family members who lost loved ones in this horrific crash, may they all R.I.P. ✝
@daana3879
@daana3879 Жыл бұрын
ANOTHER "Beautiful Aircraft Goes down ..........Weeping" here - South NZ
@shattrd3
@shattrd3 Жыл бұрын
you have no idea what your talking about
@shattrd3
@shattrd3 Жыл бұрын
read below thats parts of why this crash happened
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 Жыл бұрын
Unless the video is *VASTLY* misleading about the nature of surrounding terrain, this location was perfectly okay for an airport --- says me as a private pilot with no airline pilot experience. In fact, if the mountains were several times higher than they were, it would still have been a perfectly reasonable place for an airport ... so says me.
@richbrake9910
@richbrake9910 Жыл бұрын
True , but when the computer says terrain, pull up, then pull the damn plane up!
@supafly322
@supafly322 Жыл бұрын
We had a case study in our ready room about this flight about a month ago. Korean Air had pretty low safety records during this time. Today, their safety record is superb! Also, the Korean Air simulator did not have the Nimitz VOR properly located in their simulator. The VOR was next to the airfield in the sim.
@leskoory
@leskoory Жыл бұрын
I hope so.
@timothymoran2337
@timothymoran2337 Жыл бұрын
Did they tell you that the pilot and copilot were extremely inexperienced in flying a 747? Also, the Nimitz hillside is or was pretty much a dense jungle - difficult to get to.
@supafly322
@supafly322 Жыл бұрын
@@timothymoran2337 we talked about their experience. Captain dual hatted A380s and B747s for Korean air
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Жыл бұрын
​@@supafly322 I didn't know that was allowed. Seems like a bad idea. You want learning and memory to take over in a stressful situation.
@johnkla7866
@johnkla7866 Жыл бұрын
Yet they just had a major incident in the Philippines. Honestly I would still not trust them with my life.
@michaelhall9138
@michaelhall9138 Жыл бұрын
I worked with the approach controller of this flight for many years. He was a very conscientious and competent controller.
@brotakig1531
@brotakig1531 10 ай бұрын
I mean in reality they mentioned him in the report but he wasn't the root cause at all. It was just the fact IF he was watching it he could have seen it unfolding. But I don't think it should be in anyway his responsibility to hold the Captains hand on navigating a small hill in a 747 he is trained on... at 1am.
@michaelm54877
@michaelm54877 Жыл бұрын
Most realistic plane explosion ever.
@Dr.Faran.Ophthalmology
@Dr.Faran.Ophthalmology Жыл бұрын
Man these crashes always get me 😢. In the last moment i was getting up in my chair gradually and yelling "cmon pull up, pull up, pull up"
@travisogden9426
@travisogden9426 Жыл бұрын
No more AI voices please
@jamesrey4275
@jamesrey4275 Жыл бұрын
My Platoon Sergeant was a private fresh out of basic training when his first drill with the Guam national Guard was to recover bodies of this crash.
@billlong963
@billlong963 Жыл бұрын
This happened just as my family had moved to Guam where I took a job as a junior high school band director in Dededo. The crash was a couple of weeks before the start of school and I worked with recovery (and rescue) workers. One of the saddest memories of my life. Incidentally, after this crash there was a sudden drop in the number of tourists from Korea. Tourism is the main profitable industry of Guam, with most visitors coming from Japan and Korea.
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
Who the cares what you took a job doing?
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Жыл бұрын
Hoe long did you live there? I'm planning a trip... I lived on Guam til I was T minus two months, but have never been. I regret not visiting while my dad was alive.
@billlong963
@billlong963 Жыл бұрын
I lived there twice: 1997-99 and 2011-13. It's a tough place to live, very nice, but definitely isolated. It is the United States, not a foreign country but very different.
@thesickaminator4669
@thesickaminator4669 Жыл бұрын
RIP EVERYONE
@rachfish
@rachfish Жыл бұрын
I don't like the computer-generated voice. Do we get a poll to vote on it? 😂
@DEAJP10
@DEAJP10 Жыл бұрын
The ATC voice is also “Chilling Encounters” for all you scary story fans…
@taylorrowland4433
@taylorrowland4433 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you do a future video of the Blue Angel crash that killed Captain Jeff Kuss in Smyrna, Tennessee in June 2016? I would be curious to see what went wrong.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын
13 minute video has played all the way yet.
@JohnAlbertRigali
@JohnAlbertRigali Жыл бұрын
Another KZfaq channel that covers plane crashes has a video about that crash: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJiCdZOr0L27l2w.html
@Fly_Cruising-Altitude
@Fly_Cruising-Altitude Жыл бұрын
R.I.P 228 souls on board include CPT Park yong cheol, F/O Song kyung ho, F/E Nam suk hoon
@glennsoucy4359
@glennsoucy4359 Жыл бұрын
Lived there for many years. The approach into AB Won Pat isn't easy, but not as difficult as many
@tominfoengnet
@tominfoengnet Жыл бұрын
I have seen far too many of these videos, where the crew doesn't understand a very straightforward command from the tower (glideslope not working), and then completely ignores all the warnings in their cockpit. These are highly trained professionals, as well as multiple people involved in the decision making, so how can they as a group make such stupid decisions.
@harleyhunt6073
@harleyhunt6073 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes if people are extremely fatigued & in a particularly bad mood, it's very easy to make mistakes, even when you're usually a consummate professional. In this case, they were removed from a longer flight due to fatigue concerns, even so they were pissed off obviously over being screwed out of overtime pay & a paid for accommodation, while being exploited & exhausted. It's easy to make mistakes like this while driving in a car when very very fatigued, such as hitting the curb by accident while entering a driveway, or slightly grazing a speed bump for example, or even missing a red light from barely being able to focus. I've been there after working 14-16 hour days where I've travelled an hour to & from work. It's a shame because it really seems like the First Officer & Engineer even noticed Glidescope was not working in the first place, just that challenging the captain didn't happen - even perhaps due to the nature of Korean social expectation?
@YEETMAN-dt9mb
@YEETMAN-dt9mb 9 ай бұрын
This is why it is not only important for the pilot to read back everything, but also for the controller to listen to the read back and ensure everything is understood. If the controller had said "Korean Air 801 read back glideslope not working" then the crash could have been avoided.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Жыл бұрын
This accident is proof that the introduction of aviation quality GPS has eliminated most controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) accidents. With good reason: flight crews now know their exact position, including altitude, to at at least 30 feet, or even down to 10 feet with ground transmitter assist.
@genejeffries2888
@genejeffries2888 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the island started to tip over make the terrain higher than anticipated... I hear that's a concern to some. Why it's even been debated in congress.
@chetubetchaIII
@chetubetchaIII Жыл бұрын
*I understood that reference*
@loosemoose9799
@loosemoose9799 Жыл бұрын
When there was a debate in Congress about moving a Marine detachment to Guam, Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson was against it because there were too many people on Guam already and he said the island might tip over if the Marines were sent there. There were several news stories about it. There are videos of him saying it.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
Now there is a place to look for a solution, the U.S. Congress !!! They struggle just to get our bills paid.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota Жыл бұрын
Love your work. Your content and channels have been great and improving so much, but an honest criticism is that the Voice Overs really don’t fit your style and really aren’t necessary.
@coreyykk
@coreyykk Жыл бұрын
chilling audio coming from air traffic control. you can hear the shakiness in tower's voice and disbelief coming from all parties.
@debrabaker1009
@debrabaker1009 Жыл бұрын
😢 in 1960 my brother was flight engineer on a plane that crashed into Nimitz Hill only 15 people survived. It was on takeoff so the crash was on the other side of Nimitz hill from this crash. Amazing so sad the airline was a World Airways, out of Oakland, California September 1960😢😢
@saraherrera522
@saraherrera522 Жыл бұрын
Very sad. Sorry to hear
@ronaryel6445
@ronaryel6445 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. First, it was incumbent on the flight crew to understand the terrain around the Guam airport. At least one member of the flight crew should have beeen someone who had been there before. That the airline would provide an incorrect map is unacceptable (updated map? Nimitz Hill has always been there. The map is either correct or it isn't). Next, Korean Airlines at the time had a huge culture problem: the captain i always correct and the first officer or second officer should not contradict him. In the years since the crash, Korean Air has seen improvements, but in a country where hierarchy is prized, overcoming that problem has taken enormous effort. Lastly, I agree with the criticism of the control tower. Their monitoring was not appropriate. I will also add that I have always believed ATC shouldhave both surveillance and height-finding radar, or use a 3-D radar so as to receive important data independent of what the aircraft transmits. Today, as the US Navy begins to retire the SPS-48, why not donate the sets to civilian air traffic control?
@Trustkillx
@Trustkillx Жыл бұрын
LOVE the real audio segments
@Canalcoholic
@Canalcoholic Жыл бұрын
HATE the fake audio segments.
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
@Canalcoholic I agree very distracting. If it's not broken don't fix it.
@marynamurray9385
@marynamurray9385 Жыл бұрын
Always so sad when there is a disaster that could have been prevented. RIP to all who perished and their families.
@jessemounoury6065
@jessemounoury6065 Жыл бұрын
Tbh i don't like these AI generated voices. Either please use original recordings or just put in text.
@timf2279
@timf2279 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
tbh?
@mph1ish
@mph1ish Жыл бұрын
@@K1OIK to be honest
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
@@mph1ishOtherwise he lies?
@kamyagupta4030
@kamyagupta4030 Жыл бұрын
Very well done as always...RIP to those who lost their lives
@enola60
@enola60 Жыл бұрын
I had flown to Seattle a few days ago 1st time in 40 yes have to say ..I was nervous prayed kept my mind on God tht gave me peace.
@johnalexander7490
@johnalexander7490 Жыл бұрын
The 'generated audio' voices are horrid. Vids are always great, tho, probably getting close to the 100 mark. Lots of good ones - thank you!
@margeebechyne8642
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
So much of this was avoidable. They were complaining of being tired and over working these flight crews really must be stopped. Also the air traffic seemed really lackadaisical, too. 229 souls lost RIP Thank you for another great presentation.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 11 ай бұрын
$$$$$
@ARedMotorcycle
@ARedMotorcycle 10 ай бұрын
That wasn't a sterile cockpit, either, during the complaining part.
@the_phaistos_disk_solution
@the_phaistos_disk_solution Жыл бұрын
The 747 Classic is such a beautiful plane. My favorite. They should treat these pilots like princes with personal flight attendants.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 11 ай бұрын
Only Senior Management gets treated like princes everywhere.
@2puffs770
@2puffs770 Жыл бұрын
I swear, nearly every time I watch, the last thought I have is "DAMN!"
@TonyP9279
@TonyP9279 Жыл бұрын
I think if the altitude selector on the MCP only increments in 100s, you're suppose to ROUND UP, so for 560 feet, you'd set "600", not "500".
@expert_fretwork
@expert_fretwork 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I've gotta say, the AI voices are just a distraction though. While it's nice when you have the actual audio from the events sometimes, that's more of an added bonus. The AI voices were just weird and took away from the video.
@FazbearMovies
@FazbearMovies Жыл бұрын
I was just watching a video of yours, wondering when the next would come out.. Anyways on a more important note, rip to those who lost their lives, this crash was so easily avoidable in my opinion.
@rogerscalf231
@rogerscalf231 Жыл бұрын
Well, thank YOU for YOUR valuable opinion. I should have just fast forwarded to the comments, and I would not have wasted MY valuable time, watching the video.
@FazbearMovies
@FazbearMovies Жыл бұрын
@@rogerscalf231 Oooookkaaaayy…?
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
FC videos are usually (but not always) released on Thursday. Hope this helps.
@FazbearMovies
@FazbearMovies Жыл бұрын
@@deepthinker999 It helps.
@klhkdkk2568
@klhkdkk2568 Жыл бұрын
As a person from Saipan, thanks for making this video!
@mattpuddy918
@mattpuddy918 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Pity about AI. Please don't ruin such good work with AI. Part of the appeal is the quietness, other than engine noises etc.
@ARedMotorcycle
@ARedMotorcycle 10 ай бұрын
For real. This guy likes to experiment. The good thing is he acknowledges the critiques, and if something is not liked, he won't do it again. He did the same after he tried to narrate the videos. People complained, and he stopped.
@user-eo8zu2hg1e
@user-eo8zu2hg1e Жыл бұрын
I love this channel, but if I may give a suggestion; please don't use AI voice. Real sound is the best, but better not at all if there's no actual voice. Great video as always!
@samuraiwarriorsunite
@samuraiwarriorsunite Жыл бұрын
Looking at the online chart that shows where the survivors were seated on the aircraft, one would think the majority would be found in the rear section. But in this instance, that's not the case.
@deepthinker999
@deepthinker999 11 ай бұрын
In general you are right but I still hate being seated in the tail.
@emikomina
@emikomina Жыл бұрын
idk why, but korean air are famous for their runway overruns that occurs even to this day
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
What does idk mean?
@jakerittlinger440
@jakerittlinger440 Жыл бұрын
​@@K1OIK i don't know
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
@@jakerittlinger440 If you don't know why respond?
@jakerittlinger440
@jakerittlinger440 Жыл бұрын
@@K1OIK i don't know
@ILoveNumbers_MarioFan
@ILoveNumbers_MarioFan Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it’s hard to believe that there are survivors in accidents with large planes.
@sacrilegiousboi978
@sacrilegiousboi978 Жыл бұрын
I guess it's because they are bigger and absorb more impact forces
@vanceb1
@vanceb1 Жыл бұрын
The aircraft crashed in the boonies (jungle). It was in the middle of the wet season. The rain comes down in buckets that time of year. The ground was soaked. The jungle and the wet ground absorbed the impact so the aircraft didn't hit as hard as if it landed on a hard surface.
@rogerscalf231
@rogerscalf231 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes!?!?!? When, in your life, have you EVER witnessed in ANY way, an accident WITH, ( apparently NOT IN)a large plane, and after hearing there were maybe 3 survivors out of over 300, from a horrible, fiery crash in the Himalayas, you wouldn't, at the very least, and I DO mean least, think,"WOW". (I think wow is an expression of disbelief)
@rogerscalf231
@rogerscalf231 Жыл бұрын
@@vanceb1 yeah, but then the ones who died, died from drowning.
@rogerscalf231
@rogerscalf231 Жыл бұрын
@@vanceb1 Why don't people just say what they mean in the first place, look at all the time I wasted, explaining some goober, trying to mask his OBVIOUS FUCKING RACISM with some bullshit about the jungle. The boonies, are usually referring to any area, that's basically run down, on the outskirts of town, or just too far away to bother going "to that party, it's way out in the boonies." Not exactly an accurate description of the jungle.
@yanhasmath4992
@yanhasmath4992 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@Top10INX
@Top10INX Жыл бұрын
Wow Maan !!very emotional at the end
@MB-hc2xw
@MB-hc2xw Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the AI voices. Would rather just have the text if no real audio.
@yuyutsu2067
@yuyutsu2067 Жыл бұрын
So sad that this crash happened, could have been easily avoided.
@K1OIK
@K1OIK Жыл бұрын
How?
@yuyutsu2067
@yuyutsu2067 Жыл бұрын
@@K1OIK They literally didn't do the missed approach properly.
@bobmillerick300
@bobmillerick300 Жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the AI voice.
@bjmobilegames00354
@bjmobilegames00354 Жыл бұрын
I like your new channel
@ASIANRAVIN
@ASIANRAVIN Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to do this video! Idk if you have the Ethiopia Air crash one tho.
@NewMoon777
@NewMoon777 Жыл бұрын
Corporate culture has improved this case! Maked safety KAL. There were a lot of accidents. R.I.P crew and passengers
@Drepgot
@Drepgot Жыл бұрын
This is my childhood channel I was here wenn I was a young kid and was watching ur videos
@basimkassis9071
@basimkassis9071 Жыл бұрын
You always have good videos but tragic endings 💔 😔
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 Жыл бұрын
How come we never get the names of the flight crew, the total amount of crew and passengers, and how many lived/passed away, anymore?
@brucevrooman6107
@brucevrooman6107 Жыл бұрын
People just can't perform nearly as well when overtired, as I think the Captain was. And flying in the wee hours only makes it worse.
@mrslcom
@mrslcom Жыл бұрын
When the GPWS sounds, stop whatever you are doing and pull up immediately. Not sure why they were ignored and caused so many crashes.
@fabiogoncalves9728
@fabiogoncalves9728 Жыл бұрын
I remember that sad sequence of crashes involving Korean Air and Asiana aircraft along the late 90s. Actually it was the reason I ended up working with FSB (Flight Safety Boeing, later FSBTI-Korea, later ALTEON Training) as a Training Center Instructor & Examiner for six and a half years, as of March 2000, at Korean Air Training Center in Incheon. Was an interesting learning curve, they studied a lot but cultural issues were a factor (if not the factor)...it was hard work, especially along the first 2-3 years.
@simonsmatthew
@simonsmatthew 4 ай бұрын
Great video.I understand there were nevertheless miraculously a large number of survivors of this crash. Would be good if you include this information.
@tomsmith2013
@tomsmith2013 10 ай бұрын
YOU are a naturally born story teller.
@Jayloc05
@Jayloc05 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how many times we have to complain and tell them to leave voices out of it unless it is real CVR. Creator stubborn as hell.
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