"Bojack ?" "Yes deer ?"

Seeing Harper as the spitting image of Beatrice is just…heartbreaking. It not only indicates that Bojack loved his mother enough to imagine a daughter who resembles her so strongly, but that he also maybe wanted to vicariously give her a life that was better than the one she had.

Harper looks exactly like his mother, almost like bojack is giving his mother a better childhood so she wont be miserable,

_What are you thinking about?_ _“Just how nice things could have been had you chooses this life”_

It makes the scene a lot less heartbreaking when you realize that even if Bojack had stayed this outcome was anything but guaranteed.

Harper has the same voice actress as Sarah Lynn... oh NOOOOO

IDK why, but I liked it when Bojack booped Charlotte's ear. The animation is really cute.

Bojack barely even knew Charlotte, and that's why she was so endearing to him. He only ever saw her as a normal, decent person; someone who wasn't tainted. He had been in relationships with Wanda and Carolyn, yet he never fantasized about them in this way because he knew their flaws and who they truly were. Bojack had a few alright interactions with Charlotte in his twenties, and he has since maintained a parochial view of her as a pure and unflawed person. In my opinion, he never saw Charlotte as a someone he loved, rather, he saw her as a gateway to a clean life.

Interesting look in hindsight; Bojack’s hair is graying because that’s how it really is as revealed in season 6.

The grass isn't always greener. Even if he had left Hollywood, it wouldn't have changed everything that happened before in his life. If I had to guess, he probably would have resented Charlotte for taking away his chance at fame and drove her away as a result.

This is so sad beacuse Bojack reflects what most of us long for if we had taken other choices but we end up regretting the decisions we have.

I think the most fascinating part of this scene is that Kristen Schaal can do other voices besides the Mabel voice.

I know it's a rose-tinted fantasy but seeing Bojack play with Harper always gets me in some way. It's made obvious that he doesn't want children in his real life (which in my opinion is a smart decision on his part) but deep down there's something in him that would like to be a father. Also the part where he says he's gonna eat her hands as baby talk reminded me of how people would tell you to keep your hand flat when feeding a horse as a kid, otherwise they'd eat your fingers!

When you realize Harper was named after Harper's Landing, Michigan

This is the good ending. Nothing else happened. Bojack chooses this life and doesn't fuck it up. He becomes sober and self actualized. And is no longer running from secrets that haunt him.

The way he paints this fantasy, it's so tempting to think that Bojack would have been happy living a life like this. But the truth is, having a family can be hard, and these are just wholesome sitcom scenes he's dreamed up for himself. Having a partner and children means choosing your loved ones day after day, and Bojack has never had that kind of follow-through.

Hm... something I just noticed: Charlotte doesn't look any older after the timeskip. She's the idealized version of Charlotte who never grows old or loses her beauty.

I really want this to be a fanfiction. I know it logically wouldn't have worked out like this but it's such a happy dream I wish it would would

I like that Bojack isn’t even phased that Charlotte’s only 80% sure.

You missed the best part. When he comes to his senses in the streets being old, miserable, cold and alone.

"Yeah, and I'm 80% sure it's yours!" gets me every time. It's like even in his fondest fantasies, Bojack can't imagine a world in which everyone isn't sleeping around on everyone else.

He dreamed of a life with a woman he knew for "five minutes, years ago" where he was happy. Where he had a kid, even though he feared having kids in real life because he worried he'd just screw them up like his parents did. You'd think that dream would inspire him to change his ways and not miss another opportunity, but it only fed the guilt that made him so self destructive. Heartbreakingly realistic

I don't think that this is simply a fantasy of him with Charlotte, I think it was a fantasy of him being a normal, functional person without depression as well. In-story he knows he doesn't and couldn't be a father. But something in him yearns for the family he never had... but for that to be, you can't be broken. He certainly made his own dream age like milk.

“ daddy?” “ Harper?” It’s so cute!

If Bojack had chosen this life, it would not be this idealistic fantasy. He would’ve struggled the way most working families do, to pay bills, going to work every day and having an nagging boss, etc. With all the stress that just comes with raising a family and being alive he would’ve turned on the TV and saw Herb Kazazz producing shows, and he’d think to himself “that should be me on there. Rich and famous.” And he’d grow bitter towards Charlotte and Harper. He’s Bojack Horseman. There’s no cure for that.

This is also such a great depiction not only of BoJack's unrealistic expectations, but also on his fallacy thinking that this life would be guaranteed simply by choosing Charlotte. Once again, BoJack doesn't understand that in order for you to have the best chance for a life like this, a lot of work has to be put into yourself and caring for the other person. BoJack could've chosen Charlotte, but he still would've been the same damaged, alcoholic, drug addict who is toxic around others.

I sobbed like a baby at this whole sequence. Everything is so perfect in his imagination but in contrast his life is actually crumbling and he's second guessing all of his choices, doubting his future at every turn

This is actually breaking my heart a little, cause that's how I saw my life (pretty much) with a long lost friend...

As happy as this scene comes off, it is one of the darkest and most heart shattering ones throughout the entirety of the show.

Anyone else have dreams about people that don't exist, and in the dream you form a real emotional attachment them so when you wake up, you're grieving?

The saddest thing about all this? If he had done this instead, he would likely have ended up no different than his father. Bitter and resentful at the life of fame he could have had.

“Just how nice things could have been had you chooses this life” ..........This kills a man

Love this scene. He's idolizing Charlotte, the fantasy is unrealistic and if he had chosen her to begin with, this probably wouldn't be how things turned out to begin with. It's always interesting to look back on the different paths we fantasize about. In the moment we think the grass is greener, but that isn't always true. **Edit wow I didn't expect this to get so many likes. If you're reading this, don't settle, always work towards bettering yourself and find whatever motivates you to keep going and just go. For a while all I was motivated by to live was my cat. Now things are better, and although she's passed away, her memory is alive with me forever. Be save and spread love.

Just a few neat things: In the dream sequence, Bojack and Charlotte's fictional daughter is called Harper, and Bojack's family lakehouse was in Harper's Landing, Michigan. The baby seahorse in 'Fish out of Water' was also modelled after her. Also: In the dream, Bojack talks about running into "Ed" at the hardware store, and when he actually goes to Harper's Landing in S4, the first person he meets is Eddie, who is a handyman and helps him fix up the house. I wonder if that last one is a stretch, but either way I think it's a cool coincidence.

The fact that his daughter has the same voice as Sarah Lynn...

Honestly, nothing is stopping him from buying a small house in a small town and starting over.

This is one of the first scenes that really shows you how bone chillingly depressing this show gets, it's indescribably amazing

Does anyone else feel like this scene makes the Penny situation hit 10x harder and feel so much worse. He fantasized about having a daughter with Charlotte then went on to groom her daughter

Never do this to yourself, never build a scenario like this as your escape. It's a comforting fantasy but if you convince yourself 'I could have had this if I did X differently' it can easily lead to self-hatred.

I dont know why but when harper asks bojack "Where does the stars go?" It reminds me of my younger brother when we were kids and it really touched me... I remember my brother asking alot of strange questions back in the day and one day i kinda got tired of it and asked him really loudly why he wanted to know everything and if he wanted to be the smartest person in the world or what... Then i remember he calmly said "No im just curious" I dont know why but after that i had a hard time being mad at him over him constantly asking questions... It was kinda qute when i look back at it :) He was and still is a good brother and we are really close friends today

Bojack could never be this happy…he would definitely self sabotage

Even though this is an old video, I like the subtle foreshadowing that his black hair was dyed up until Season 6. It's clear how they represented it as a form of vulnerability on Bojack's part, no longer looking the part of Hollywoob stardom.

Is it me or does Harper's boyfriend kinda look life Charlotte's actual husband in New Mexico?...

Whenever i watch this scene, it makes me think that even though it was all just a drug induced dream, it was still a good example of the happy life Bojack always wanted and or could've had if he left his life in LA behind to start a life with Charlotte in the past, but as we all know Bojack blew his chance with Charlotte 30 years ago and whether he likes it or not, for Bojack Charlotte will always be the one that got away.

Holy shit, Harper sounds like Sarah Lynn, and she asks "where do the stars go" which Sarah Lynn died in a planetarium

Bojack is so cute when he's not depressed

What he should have thought after "I could have had this" is "I can still have this" and then worked toward it (with a different person than Charlotte) if he really wanted it . But well it's bojack 😔

He could’ve had it all if he simply just not let his own demons and trauma be excuses for him to remain terrible, he ruined so many lives to the point rehab wasn’t enough to give him a fresh start. Sure Prison is something he deserves but I really wished Bojack found a way to make amends. I think a great lesson about his character shows those who dealt with similar type drama should never go down the path Bojack went on

Bojack romanticized this life with Charlotte and built it up so big in his head, all while he neglected those in his life who were supportive and genuinely cared for him (Todd, PC, Diane, Wanda). When he doesn't make up with Wanda after the argument and skips Todds improv graduation to visit Charlotte I felt bad. Because that's what this show is about, Bojack not realising how great the people around him are until its too late.

Goddamn hearing Will Arnett be all soft like that is doing things to me.

Anybody else ever had a fantasy like this? Thought about a life we could've had if we'd made a different choice?

This scene always gets me, everytime i re-watch it, seeing how amazing things are when you imagine yourself free, without worries or bad memories, just you with a calm and relaxing world, until you open your eyes and remember, that you are not in that life, that it's just fantasy, a dream that you horribly want to be in but you're not, that you're still trapped in the difficult life that you, someone or something created, that makes your life hard to live everyday

Even in this dream, Bojack can't help but subconsciously make sexual comments. It really shows who he is, how lost he is

Did anyone catch it? "Bojack! The Supper's ready" appears in real life when he visits Charlotte in New-Mexico. What a brilliant show!

This was so cute and painful. I'm happy because Bojack would have been happy. Sad because this means that Bojack really wasn't in love with Princess because he didn't want to have a child with her. Which was good because she met the man who would love her.

That last line Charlotte said just made me laugh like a madman. All that love, all those memories, all those years, just a passing thought of what could've been. I have to watch this show.

0:45 "I'm pregnant and I'm 80% sure it's yours" Nobody gonna talk about this?

One thing that stuck out to me about Harper (in my opinion) is that she does look like Beatrice but the eyes remind me of her doll that Bojack threw out the window

Remember, celebrities can still have a happy life with a family, and there are a lot of them that proves that But bojack couldn't. Became a jerk when he got famous, got into addictions and never tried to outcome his childhood traumas

god I absolutely adore this scene and after watching more of the show (especially looking back on this after escape from LA) my view on it has kinda changed in a way I didn't expect. at first, it was pretty gut wrenching to watch, a man with so many problems living such a miserable life thinking about how if he just made better decisions, he could've lived a wholesome, fulfilling life filled with a family he loves. that's so tragic just on its own, and that last line works so well bc I felt that sharp snap back to reality when she says that, like you're with him in enjoying this fantasy and getting lost in it, but just when things seem perfect, there's that "this would've been so nice if you chose it", and the illusion just dead stops and we go back to thinking how miserable he is, and the fantasy becomes tainted. this episode and really this scene is what made me first love bojack and recognize what an emotionally powerful and introspective show it is. but after the scene in escape from la where Charlotte says "you don't know me, we knew each other for a little bit 30 years ago", it really changes this scene. at first, we agree with bojack, we think this scene was a legitimate missed opportunity, that we all assumed charlotte would love him like this, and they'd end up like this together. but the scene with Charlotte in escape to LA really makes you look at it a different way, and just see how delusional and kind of pathetic this fantasy is. we see how this fantasy is actually a kind of self destruction because he chose the other path in his life that would've made him happy, believing that it totally would've happened, and he makes himself miserable for his poor decisions. but it's just a lie, he wants to go to a place that would've never existed, he's just desperate and is willing to create really damaging fantasies based on his own self hatred. at first this scene feels really sad for the same reason it makes bojack sad, but looking back it seems more immature and pathetic, more so exemplary of bojacks terrible brain instead of his terrible decisions. man this show is fucking smart

It’s interesting that Harper looks like across between Beatrice and Hollyhock

Haunted by the things that could have been And left to rot by the mistakes he made That’s life for you

He ran into Ed at the hardware store Eddie, he ran into Eddie the fly

i don't think this life would have ever been possible for bojack. charlotte even said it herself, even if she never met herb, bojack would have never made a move on her.

We all have this kind of dream

things always taste better when they're fiction

Seeing this is doubly sad because I'm convinced that Bojack wouldn't have gotten this life if he had chosen Charlotte... He's had so many chances to be happy and avoid conflict in his normal life, yet he just can't help himself. His old life would've pulled him back, or he would've had to really struggle to manage the toxicity in him. It takes boring, constant, hard work to improve oneself, *especially* when you got a lot of issues.

For me this was by far the saddest thing this show has done...it breaks my heart into tiny little pieces

It so simple, but it's still one of the most heartbreaking scenes I've ever seen

This entire episode brought out all the emotions no other tv series has. BoJack Horseman truly is a cinematic gem.

that thing where he spins Harper around in the water is such a dad move

one of my favorite details is how his imaginary daughter’s name is harper, like harper’s landing, where beatrice spent her summers. not to mention harper looks like beatrice when she was younger

The fact that Harper looks just like Beatrice that kinda gets me.

A little detail that you would notice is that he holds his "daughter" like it's a doll. He craves it back and forth like a little girl would to a dog, and you can easily tell, that's not how people would normally hold a baby in the show.

Bojacks daughter looks like his mother's doll

There are a lot of things about this show that have had a powerful impact on me. And this was among the greatest. To see Bojack throw away what he really wanted in life to be famous showed me that there is so much more to life than fame or career. Regular everyday people are sometimes 10x happier than famous actresses or billionaires. He was too "cowardly" to live an average life. He had to be "special" to prove himself to others.

I think of this scene everytime my highchool crush uploads an instagram pic with her husband.

I just realized that baby Harper looks like Beatrice's baby doll.

When she said 80% I was like 🤨

I like how he's just like *I don't wanna spook the baby*

This honestly made me cry it’s beautiful 🥺

Harper's voice is similar to Sarah Lynn's

i want him to be happy so bad 💛

The reality we all wished for Bojack

This isn’t a dream, he’s tripping

"Daddy?" "Harper."

also the fact that Harper is voiced by the same actor as Sarah Lynn. . . Fuck man.

This is the point I broke down and started really liking this show, and Bojack as a character.

If Bojack had this life he would have been a better parent than his own.

Is nobody gonna talk about Harper looking like Beatrice and Hollyhock in this?

Harper is just a mix of Sarah and His mother

Bojack is both giving his child a a childhood he never had when he was a kid (no violent/manipulative parents , no drugs/alcohol) and also since the daughter looks like his mother it’s like he is also giving her a good childhood

I saw the title. I've seen this episode before. Years ago, even. I KNEW it was coming. And yet that last line still hit like a brick to the chest 😭

Finished it Bojack Horseman So heartbreaking, such a great show and emotional connection with a horse ❤ 24.5.21

"Daddy" "Harper" 💗

Bojack deserved that life, it’s so sad that he tried so hard to do things that would make him happy but they never worked out and he always ended up doing something wrong.

God, this scene never fails to break my heart. It's 3am, I've rewatched this show so many times and this scene still makes me cry.

Knowing Bojack, he would have fucked this life up anyways.

This always makes me so sad. I wish he did have this life

"If you chose this life.." Wow 5 Words that messed Bojack's whole career Aye better than 17 words let alone 17 Minutes