britishmuzzleloaders how is it you commented 3 weeks ago. And we only seeing this in the last day? As most comments are within the last 24hrs... Bloke ? 😊 notice Bloke is breathing a bit hard second go on the first rifle 😃

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Nelline Cronje so it shared there first?

britishmuzzleloaders Not if it’s consensual...

aynjeleyes if you donate a dollar a month you get access to the videos on Wednesday and if you donate $5 a month you get to watch them when they are first uploaded. rather neat, you should become a patron.

Ἀντίγονος : If she see's this post you are so screwed. Hahaha You need to thank the gun gods I'm not your friend because I'd never have to buy a beer the rest of my life! Hahaha

What a coincidence , so does bloke, but only if it belongs to the tubby muzzle-loader creep

Man that was gold

Nice work! Space guns are cool (i have one) but milsurps(i have many) are THE BEST! I been smashing 500m gong at local range with my SMLE of late, love it! Waiting for a chance to get my "new" no4 out for a shot and see how much i can bring groups down with peep! Dragging her out tomorrow, but in the dark and limited to 200m :( Probably spend most time shooting my also "new" Martini Enfield anyways. Wish we had 3 gun matches here, id do the same as you, probably come last though, not that i give a fruit!

I once placed number 3 with a garand, against ARs mostly. I love shooting milsurp, but there's a reason modern guns where ahead of me, and it's not just skill.

try a no4 T

Space guns, lol. you got that right.

@@WarblesOnALot you are certainly a buzz kill aren't you?

The joke is of course that the whole point of bump stocks was to extend the middle finger in a metaphorical sense.

It's in the manual too :)

Thatd be scary to go house to house room clearing.

That should have read "Good bang stick" of course ... Sorry.

Say what you will about the Lee Enfield, it’s a combat rifle through and through. It’s designed for fast handling at close range in a way that none of the others are.

Frankenrifle is rather smooth.

Mosins were zeroed with the bayonet on

More "if you ever want to hit anything you need to have the bayonet on, because we zeroed the sites as such"

Plus the clumsy buggers are so long, you can already reach them with the bayonet on before they reach CQB distances.

it's more that when the rifles were made, the ideas of shooting in line formation and using the bayonet to fend off cavalry were still strong, so they had to keep the rifle long fore the former and the bayonet on the gun for the second, they figured out that they could optimize the gun for shooting with the bayonet on and that manner to zero the guns stuck for the length of the production

making them in 1930 (1891-30) and still zeroing them at the factory with bayonets in 1945

The mad minute is not very applicable in actual use. The reason it was carried through Korea is money, same reason the Canadian rangers where using it until 2012 or so, and the Indians still use it. I love the lee enfield and it objectively is faster than the mausers and most other bolt actions, but not practically substantially so. When you have to snap engage to multiple targets, you will realize how awful a bolt action is to even an early semi auto. I would take my SVT 40 even with the legal restriction to 5 rounds and garbage clips, over my no4 any day. 5 rounds semi auto is much faster practically than 10 rounds bolt action. You appreciate it when you do a 2 guns, try it out it's eye opening.

also smoother if you cant the rifle slightly outward when rotating the bolt to avoid odd ergos.

Greg Thewestgaredneck but mein friend, vat about ze rimjams? *coughs in denial

Eh, a 1917 or a P14 is what i consider the best, you basicly have the best of both Mauser and enfield, sights that where 30 years ahead of everything else and a stupid strong action, other then being modestly over barreled, on a technical level it's a superior product to the Lee-Enfield, makes sense considering the P14 was going to replace all SMLE's at one point before WW1 basically bankrupt the Empire and basically made the SMLE and later No4 fight on a bit past their expiration date. also 30-06>303.

I guess technically the p14 is a superior rifle on paper,I still choose my good ol SMLE though because sometimes just because something is technically better does not make it the best.I don't know why so much hate for 303, sure its a dated cartridge but i wonder if all the haters have ever actually shot it or they just go of the horror stories of constant rim jams, which i have never personally experienced on any Lee Enfield shooting PPU. I guess its possibly with older milsurp ammo that people get these horror issues, that crap goes nowhere near my rifles though, got a few boxs i might end up re-loading them and shooting to see if the older cases rim jam just for shits and giggles! As far as effectiveness goes i dont think theres enough in it to matter.

I've have been shooting a 1917 No.1 MkIII* for some 39 years, in fact it was the very first centerfire rifle I ever shot. In those years with many many rounds down range in many mad minutes, I've yet to have a rim jam. Love your Mauser's if you like but that SMLE got the job done for fifty years of soldering in the Empire and Commonwealth. Even longer in India with their 7.62x51 versions.

Greg Thewestgaredneck You should won a Ishapore if possible

I have a Registered MG42, she eats that junk steel for breakfest. Then again, the MG42 was designed and fed exclusively steel cased ammo during it's entire service life.

Weirdly my turk mauser likes that stuff more than anything else...

joeman2551 speaking from practical experience with my own .30-06, K98ks and No4; as a speed machine the Lee wins. Put simply the Mauser based action has a longer bolt travel back and forth, so you have to take your head off the stock, and a 90 degree bolt lift not 60. It’s just a longer distance. The .303 is a bit less powerful than 8mm or .30-06 but in this comparison the less recoil with .303 is offset by the No4 being a lighter rifle. BTW - as a target rifle I prefer a 1903 anyway.

That sounds like fun. Maybe stand in a disused quarry with friends randomly pushing rocks down off the lip. Hit a whole rock after it bounces to score a point.

@@myparceltape1169 Yes, but stand by for howls by those who fear ricochets from everything. Seriously, rifle bullets striking a hard surface either break up into small pieces and fly tangentially to the surface stuck (which on a moving rock is impossible to pre-determine) or be deflected by a curved surface at most any angle, often an angle not appreciated the shooter or onlookers. Also be aware shooting in any area with a multitude of rock or rocky outcroppings can produce this effect with any shoot that doesn't hit something to absorb the bullet. (Dirt is best, I recommend between four and ninety-seven feet of tight packed dirt depending on the round employed.) Again, many ranges will scream but I think good "odd" targets are gallon jugs (from milk, orange drink and so forth) tossed about four to six feet in the air by a hypothetical device. No trajectory like a clay pigeon, just up and down. With rifles, not more than fifty yards or so away. Fifteen or twenty yards might be hard enough. Again, one's back stop needs to be both wide and high. And devoid of anything that would deflect a bullet. Or lots of distance - say a couple miles where no one goes. I agree, shooting at rolling rocks would be fun. No place near me to do it safely of which I'm aware.

@@OldManMontgomery I had thought 1) you were based in the USA , 2) stand 100 yards away from. the rock face and 3) make sure the pushers of rock stay well away from the edge. They can use long poles. I don't know about you, but I have seen rock drop off its overhanging position and shatter on a water-worn boulder about 60 to 80 feet below as much as 30 feet from us. My friends and I had been in the area several times and nothing fell, nor did we expect it to. So make them stay away safe. Most quarries are well away from habitation but I most certainly take your point about flying fragments. It is dangerous.

@@myparceltape1169 Just to remove doubt: I was born in the United States, I have lived all my life (minus a trip to Europe and some time in the Orient) and have always worked in the U. S. (Except for the time in the Orient; and I was working for a U. S. based organization.) I am retired and live in the United States. I think it safe to say I am '...based in the USA...'. Please forgive my manner of expressing myself. I think in general terms in relating to others. Your circumstance is of course, seen by you (and your friends). You (all) must decide what is safe for you all. I made the comment about a hard dirt backstop of thickness as appropriate. Most of the Armed Services firearms ranges use a 'backstop' of several miles of fenced and posted (empty) areas. Living (or just shooting) in an uninhabited area changes the situation. I live in inhabited areas where shooting is legal but stray rounds must be prevented. Ricochets and such endanger the shooter(s), of course. You're on your own in many regards. As is most of life. Make up your own mind and good luck.

@@OldManMontgomery Thank you. So far as I know our militaries train in remote or protected areas, perhaps use the sea as a backstop though I have watched bombing runs where they suddenly appeared over a hill and dived at the beach before breaking off. Safety should be a concern and for a time so many of our aircraft were being lost with their pilots on training runs that I thought it would be better all round not to fly except during war. But really, thank you for your advice.

Weirdly my turk mauser likes that stuff more than anything else...

My Yugo M48 had the same issue.

Winchester developed a much superior priming compound mid WWII. They gave it free of charge to the allies, and it was a massive step up. It was non -corrsosive, easier to manufacture, more stable and gave more consistent output of heat and pressure. It really was a leap up, and it took a while for all of the allies to get on board because it was a guarded secret, and also because they were used to their previous methods of manufacture. Keep in mind it is also the propellants. Old 303 ammo uses cordite, which looks like spaghetti, and does significantly change over time. The same was true for the older single based and double based nitro type powders to a reduced degree. They off gas over time and reduce potency, or perhaps increase. Modern powders are more stable to age and temperature, etc. Old cordite and old type primers were pretty bad. The early semi smokeless powders seemed to go bad at around 3-4 years which gave the french a fair amount of problems when older lebel ammo got pulled out of the attic during WWI.

Thank you very much sir, that will be a lot of googling for me to do.

PierreDolphin you're welcome. If you find that I am off on any of the details I'd appreciate a correction .

Use the search function ;)

+Lt Joker - Agreed, in any group of people doing any job with any tool, there will always be people looking for easier/faster/more efficient ways of doing the job and occasionally even suggesting re-designs to make the job unnecessary in the first place. Competition to be most accurate and/or quickest will also happen.

This sort of close range rapid-fire is mentioned in memoirs. George MacDonald Fraser, in "Quartered Safe Out Here", mentions doing a close-range "double-tap" with a Lee Enfield, though I can't recall if it was the middle-finger method. I reckon it would be shooting to put your man down, and one more for luck, rather than emptying a magazine. As for the SMG, the Russians did equip whole battalions with the SMG replacing rifles, but the section did apparently have an LMG. This may be an experience that led to the way the Dragunov rifle was used, designated marksman in every section rather than specialist snipers

You've just said it yourself, there's only 1 guy with a sub gun. What if you weren't that one guy? You simply had to make the most of what you had.

Dave, russian snipers during the war were commonly apart of the infantry. That means they were directly involved in the fighting. Having a scoped bolt action was not ideal and was used until the 60's when it was replaced by the SVD. The SVD had specific requirements to meet as the sniper was still fully expected to take part in the fighting with their unit. So in short it replaced a specific weapon, not the role of a sniper.

Swiss mountain infantry, just after WW2.

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@@BlokeontheRange Thank you Sir....

Bloke on the Range - thanks for the reply and thanks for a great channel. I guess you just showed that the intermediate cartridge idea was a very effective solution! (Less recoil, weight, cost to manufacture, albeit at a price in terms of terminal effect beyond ~ 500yds)

they are supposed to be great target shooters but unreliable in poor conditions

They have no primary extraction, which is what screwed them over in a war. Lee chambers are also oversized. I have a ross sporter no problems with factory ammo, but it will absolutely shit the bed with cases that have been reloaded 5 or 6 times.

It probably would be a fairly easy conversion. There's a guy named russel houghton on youtube who has done a few carcano to 7.62x39 conversions. p.s. Private rant: using "7.62" as a caliber designation is really annoying. It's like identifying a model of car by saying "4 wheels". 9mm has one overwhelmingly popular choice, so people generally know that if you say "9mm" you mean 9mm parabellum (AKA whatever) rather than 9mm Kurz or Makarov, or Largo, or 38 special... But with 7.62, you've narrowed it down to only the most popular rifle diameter ever. Even with popular current widespread use military calibers that are mostly known by metric designations, there is genuine ambiguity between ""x54r, ""Nato, ""x39.

In case of CQB, hold your RPG in the wrong direction, with the rear end pointing towards your target. Backblast will do the rest.

The 1955 one. It's reproduced in "The National Serviceman's Handbook".

This. I love lees and the mad minute might be cool, but practically you won't see any advantage. Everyone needs to do action shooting. Real life stress of just a timer, maybe some weather and more than just plinking at a target, will change everything.

@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM you mean like this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJZ5es5yp7HaiWQ.html

And then you get videos like this one where I've previously shown myself to be fast with all of them :D

You are quite right about practice. I used to have to use a particular small electronic calculator so often it was showing the results before I was certain I had put all the values in. There was also an occasion when I watched someone typing a lecture word for word into his computer as it was delivered.

@@myparceltape1169 Damn. I'm not slow at typing, but I'm not that fast.

A mauser being a mauser. Two or three rounds and theyre too hot, and cycling the bolt goes to hell.