In floor radiant heat with a wood boiler.( Heating concrete floors)

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Bondo Built

Bondo Built

3 жыл бұрын

This video is about how I'm setting up my wood boiler to heat the concrete floors in my shop and house. I get a lot of questions on how we heat the tubing up that we put in the concrete. This is just one of the ways to heat the tubing up. There are so many different ways to do it. Let me know in the comments if you guys like these kind of videos and I will do more with different systems to heat the radiant tubing up. Thanks
Bondo

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@redjamwizard
@redjamwizard 2 ай бұрын
I am a forced retirement contractor. I love the Radiant heat with wood, renovations on your rental & flip houses would be great. Your style friends & your doors are always swinging both ways. It was great, the wife tried to feed the all, lol never bored here then I was severely injured by a skid that fell off a freight truck. But Life Goes On.
@royordway9157
@royordway9157 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, impressive set-up you have. I'm dating myself here, I remember friends having wood/oil fired boilers back in the mid 70's. They all loved them.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
This one has been being built for years. I do like it a lot.
@joemc111
@joemc111 2 жыл бұрын
Nice show, it just makes me miss my coal furnace. Moved to Florida in 1988.
@johnmattu7262
@johnmattu7262 2 жыл бұрын
Great set-up and that wood boiler is just a beast. Thanks for the tour!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
No problem John
@dodgeman658
@dodgeman658 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I stumble on to your channel because I'm planning on putting radiant heat in my pole building next spring before we put concrete down and your videos are very informative 👍
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome. I'm so glad that the videos are helpful to you guys. 👍
@tomwilkinson2184
@tomwilkinson2184 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bondo for sharing this. I'm near Buffalo NY , getting ready to put up a 30'x 30' shop .I'm thinking of getting in floor heat. And this looks like the best way to heat it.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I would recommend the in floor heat. You will love it. I have many videos to show how to do it. 👍
@tomvermeulen1082
@tomvermeulen1082 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the radiant heat videos. Actually I love all your videos great work, very educational and informative. Thank you for your time.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom I appreciate the feed back. It's guys like you that keep me doing this channel 👍
@tyler1671
@tyler1671 2 жыл бұрын
Literally about to do a garage apt for myself.to help take care of my mother thanks for this man
@larryschei4286
@larryschei4286 Жыл бұрын
I am truly impressed!
@joelr877
@joelr877 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Ron. I heat with a natural gas boiler but would love to add a wood fired unit at some point. Your videos are giving me some great ideas on how to integrate one into my system.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Jason awesome buddy. Im glad you are getting some ideas from my channel thats what its for. 👍😊
@Nonsense62365
@Nonsense62365 Жыл бұрын
Wow what an impressive boiler very nice!
@jdelbrid
@jdelbrid 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel yesterday. I have a lot of catching up to do. Nice setup in your home. Also, I do like the timber framing in your home. Looking forward to seeing more of your work, especially the ICF work.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. We have alot of videos on ICF for ya and more to come this summer. Thanks for the support of the channel
@jamessuderman3033
@jamessuderman3033 9 ай бұрын
A couple recommendations for you. Wire the high limit override into a separate pump sending the high temp liquid into a water to air radiator with a 120v fan. The rad will dump more heat into your shop quickly. Typically it is a good idea to run your stove at 160-180°F to prevent creosote buildup in your chimney. Are you mixing down to 120°F to your basement? If so, then, all the application in your house will be running at 120° Max. Between joist and the sidearm work better with 160-180°F and so you may want to run high temp to the house and move that one mixing valve into the basement floor heat while simultaneously allowing higher heat into the other two. Put a well into your water tank and an aquastat to keep the water under at 140°F or less. Hotter domestic water is a risk to scald. Impressive amount of work you have done on your system.
@andrewpipitone1572
@andrewpipitone1572 Жыл бұрын
That is an awesome unit to have. Pops was born 26 he told me about a fireplace that had heating tubes running through it. He told me in the 70s the system was older. Italy has prebuild fireplace with a heat system built in. There has to be some sort of divertor to regulate water temp. I'm not sure what or how but I know if I was going to hook up such a system it needs to be looked into. To me that unit you have there is invaluable.
@loudounmowingandloader9598
@loudounmowingandloader9598 Жыл бұрын
great stuff.. more radiant heat session.. thank you
@butopiatoo
@butopiatoo 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! Always wondered how this would work.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad you liked it. 👍😊
@johnreilly9748
@johnreilly9748 3 жыл бұрын
Nice set-up! I had an outdoor boiler that heated my house slab with stone on the slab. Good videos. Used to live in NY southeast of Albany, in Colorado now.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. 👍😊 How do you like Colorodo compared to that area of New York? What do you mean about having the stone on the slab?
@johnreilly9748
@johnreilly9748 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 Hey I love it here near Durango in farm country east of airport. We dont have as much land as we had back east. Climate is nice elevation is 6800 so way higher. Super good deer hunting here a little better than NY bigger bucks for sure, all mule deer. So my old house had about 2000 sq ft of 4in slab insulated with big flat stone floor bedded on the slab. Boiler was outdoor plumbed into a utility room in basement with heat exchanger and Viessman boiler that I hardly ever used since I had a couple hundred acres of hardwood so all I had to do was put a big pile of wood near the boiler. All big stuff so not much splitting and you could put almost 4 ft long in it. No boiler here but wood stove in the shop. Oh forgot the best is that owning 3 properties here my total property tax is under $2k for 80 acres big hose and barn/shop and 3 homes and other structures! Columbia Co. NY was $22k. I really enjoy seeing your projects, giving me ideas as I will be building a house on a 40 acre parcel this spring.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnreilly9748 Awesome.👍👍 Yes its on my bucket list of places to go hunting. Maybe an elk 😊
@rwandersonut
@rwandersonut 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and timing as well (for me). I need to upgrade my heat in the house and I plan on building a new garage later this year. A setup just like the one you showed in this video would be perfect for me. One thing that would help us lay folk out would be a source for the supplies. (Not an endorsement, just just guidance on a good source for zone valves, controllers, etc.) Also, while I can certainly find all of that stuff, knowing what sizes, speeds etc. would be a great benefit. Like you mentioned, having the proper size expansion tank. Lastly, any details you could provide on heating the wood floor between the joists would also be very helpful. Thanks for all the info, I get so much out of your videos. You are very generous with your time and knowledge.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. 😊 I get almost all my supplies from Supply house. They have everything and will deliver to your door. We would have to start with how big your garage and house is to determine what size the loops of tubing will be. Also what boiler you will be heating everything with. I have some good videos on how to lay out the tubing step by step. 👍😊
@jeffhunter8879
@jeffhunter8879 3 жыл бұрын
Nice setup, and work. Good information video.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. Glad you liked it 😊
@menketrakush8379
@menketrakush8379 3 жыл бұрын
Love the set up wood & oil excellent.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I still have not hooked up the oil yet though. Lol
@ssnobody8775
@ssnobody8775 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your wisdom ! Subscribed
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 2 жыл бұрын
Love it man. Keep it up
@williamhanna5224
@williamhanna5224 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice house and shop great video !
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 😊 Glad you liked it.
@kirktyler3006
@kirktyler3006 3 жыл бұрын
I like it. I’m a concrete, ICF, wood burning, radiant heat kinda guy as well. I’m not much of a hunter, no patience for it so I gave it up. I’m more of auto racing dirt bike recreationalist. Good video, I was really interested in your wood burning boiler and considering doing my next house in the Utah mountains like yours. I’m selling my 7000+ sq. ft. home and down sizing to two homes, one like I said in the mountains of Utah and one in the lower desert of southern Utah, both out of ICF.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
A wood boiler in the ICF house would be awesome. definitely keep you warm. 👍
@brucepigeon3671
@brucepigeon3671 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Would like to see more on radiant heating. I am out next to the coal fields in ND. I am building a stoker with old Drawz stoke parts. Have it pretty much done. It will heat a 40 x 80 for now. I have two large hanging heaters that in their former live were the freon condensers from a grocery store that was remodeled. I also have a 40 by 100 Quonset and a 13 x 24 furnace room in between the two buildings. A 10,000 gal fuel tank standing on end for coal storage. With a 6" transfer auger to bring the coal in to the stoker hopper. I just put 4500 lbs of coal in it, that brought the level up to about4 ft, I have another 12 ft to fill. Hoping it will run all winter on that when filled. The Quonset does not have the floor in yet that will have to wait until spring. I plan to put radiant heat in there and have added space in the manifold to do that. I am hoping my bush engineering will work. Keeping my fingers crossed. Sorry that got a little long winded.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that setup buddy. You will like the radiant way more then thge hanging heaters I have had both. Just insulate good under there. Watch some of my tubing install videos and you will have a great heater. 👍👊
@Tom-sr1hb
@Tom-sr1hb 2 жыл бұрын
Hey that is an awesome heating system Will have to keep that in mind when I build another house... Just one thought ... I was a licensed Oil Burner tech in MA when I was younger and you may want to check with the local Fire Dept/Inspector on how close you can mount your Oil Tank to the boiler .... That looks a little close....
@jonnykielbasa
@jonnykielbasa 3 жыл бұрын
A long awaited video nobody showed but You! In other countries in Northern Europe they still burn coal Now even coal pellets heats very well you have an automatic hopper system 😀
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Ya John my automatic hopper system is when my girlfriend puts the wood in the boiler. lmao 😂 😆
@bobdinovo6889
@bobdinovo6889 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful home. Thank you for sharing
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob. I have another video about this boiler. Ill send you a link. 👍😊
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
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@jackel440
@jackel440 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I put radiant tubing in my 40x44 shop when I poured my floor yrs ago. I'd like to heat mine with a lp hot water heater.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi it will work great we have set several up that way. 👍👍
@RJM1011
@RJM1011 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see the set up thank you for the video.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Richard 👍🙁
@RJM1011
@RJM1011 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 Thank you I want to use something like this for heating my own home one day.
@italRotty
@italRotty 3 жыл бұрын
Ron you are just as good a plumber as you are a mason dang dude !! nice !!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. 😊 I actually enjoy plumbing most of the time. Especially the heating end of it. I find it quite rewarding to hook up the heat to the tubing.
@cheffsolo7739
@cheffsolo7739 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ,and yes sir do more videos, and you can tell us more on icf ! Thank you much
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Thanks for the comments and I will. 👍👍
@scott4jc
@scott4jc Жыл бұрын
Love it!!!
@mattderr1013
@mattderr1013 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Keep them coming
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Matt thanks buddy. 👍 check out part 2 of this boiler if you havent already. 😊
@thunderbird233
@thunderbird233 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Nothing there looks like it was installed using bondo.😉Nice install.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think it should keep us warm this winter 👍👍
@terryderungs1977
@terryderungs1977 3 жыл бұрын
Good info wish I found you when I put mine in.saved me a big head ach. 👌
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry. I have hooked up a bunch of different wood boilers to the pex tubing. 👍👍
@scottdawe8726
@scottdawe8726 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tks.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it Scott
@brucemurray2520
@brucemurray2520 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Well done!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce 😊
@heidistortroen5209
@heidistortroen5209 3 жыл бұрын
Hit the thumbs up but didn't turn blue.....go figure it's utube
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@heidistortroen5209 thank you 😊
@williamgibb5557
@williamgibb5557 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting setup. That much heat capacity will do all you need. I'm assuming the house is the priority need with garage secondary. Converted my oil burner with 1 zone baseboard to 3 zone with 1 as radiantl floor. Took time to fine tune everything . Now rethinking about addjng wood boiler. Grat video.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 7 ай бұрын
Thanks glad video was helpful
@bantambryce4858
@bantambryce4858 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen this done with a wood burner! Now you have me thinking I could use a pellet stove, that's what I use for my house. I am surprised you didn't make your whole house out of ICF lol
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
you could get a pellet boiler to heat the water for the in fkoor heat. I built my house before I got into the ICF stuff.
@tommckinney3947
@tommckinney3947 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ron. Nice to see how everything works together. I have a question about the mixing valves. What temp do you want running through the pex? Yes to more videos like this.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Tom I find 120 degrees works real good for in floor heat. Glad you liked the video buddy 👍👍
@docriley7837
@docriley7837 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool new subscriber!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc. 😊👍 Thanks for subscribing buddy
@reypolice5231
@reypolice5231 2 жыл бұрын
I think you did a fantastic job. Great build. I love the surplus diesel tank idea. Would it be a good idea to move the diesel tank further away from the boiler? They are usually put as far away from the boiler as possible for safety.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks appriciate the feedback. that might be a good idea.
@pierrem53
@pierrem53 3 жыл бұрын
great videos...watched a bunch as I am knocking down a farm house that has a new oil burning boiler. Will be building a pole barn for Rv/classic car storage. I only want to heat the pole barn maybe a month out of the winter. Since I have the fairly new boiler and tanks would it make sense to install this as I haven't built the barn yet. It would seem that turning it off for most of the winter would be problematic. Resale of the property with floor heat would be great for a new buyer but for my personal use ...might not make sense. Your thoughts....So much of your videos are appropriate for my upcoming building projects. thanks ! you explain very straight forward .
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
I would use that boiler if it were me and big enough buddy. Oil heat is hot and will work well in the in floor heat. What kind of boiler is it? Model number and size? Where do you live? How big is the barn going to be? You could run the boiler to some hydronic hanging heaters also if you didnt want to put in floor heat in ?
@williamhanna5224
@williamhanna5224 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Fingerlakes originally and now in Florida over 30 years miss NYS.and seasons.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks William. Do you miss the snow?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
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@tberlin6718
@tberlin6718 2 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect video for me, thank you. how often do you clean this type of chimney? Is it different maintenance wise from the regular wood furnace? Thank you
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
This unit here burns real hot and clean. It does not make creosote so not much cleaning and when I check it it is just fly ash to sweep out quick.
@MrNicmousseau
@MrNicmousseau 3 жыл бұрын
This was very cool and great reassurance that it can be done DIY style. So many questions... How do you figure out the right sized pex pipe or does it matter? Was the mixing valve to get around a heat exchanger? How does the mixing valve circuit work? Does it bring in domestic water source or just mix cooler return water to the feed? Was the adjustment difficult with the mixing valve and require frequent readjustment? How well does it maintain a comfortable temp? Any trouble with it overheating or damaging piping?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi nic. You want to use 1/2" oxygen barrier pet tubing. The mixing valve just steals cooler return water and mixes it with the hotter water from the supply on boiler. The radiant heat only needs 100 to 120 degree water and the boiler is hotter so it just tempers it. This system maintains a steady temp with the controls I have in place and no damaging pipes. Sorry for the late response this question got lost in my inbox. just found it.
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 жыл бұрын
Happy I found your channel! Good info here Ron, and really happy with the info you provide. My shop isn't due to even be constructed for a few years, but info now is good for later. When you state you can use a water heater, do you mean a standard water household water heater? I always thought you needed something different. Last I heard people used glycol mixes in their radiant floor heaters, so I'm really curious. I live in Eastern Michigan, and we can get to -20 (worst I've seen where I live) so I'm curious. I'll be watching more of your videos for sure.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad you like the videos buddy. What you want is a 50!gallon gas or oil commercial water heater. HTP makes a nice one called the Phoenix light duty that is in gas. Bosch makes a nice oil unit but you need to vent the oil with a chimney. The gas just uses pvc for venting. I’m gonna put together some videos of different heating systems this winter. 👍👍
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 My property would (currently) be propane, but I'd probably fire an oil unit on an outbuilding like that. Reading up on this stuff shows I'd probably burn a tank of oil a season, which would be SIGNIFICANTLY less than the propane. Thanks for the feedback. I was shocked when I saw some of the quotes people were getting ($10,000~$15,000 for the system WITHOUT the concrete). I'm looking at this and saying "more like $3500~$5000 depending on boiler, and valving. As you said, 400' runs means no need for all kinds of balancing valves. :)
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@WreckDiver99 yes buddy go with the oil unit if you don’t mind the chimney. It will be cheap to run and maintain. Keep the tubing the same lengths and it will work like a dream. Get some cheap copper headers that have the pex ends. I did one and they heat 1500 sq foot house with one tank of oil in upstate New York and we get cold here. As long as you insulate property you will be in great shape. 👍👍
@patrickjones1061
@patrickjones1061 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Bondo the mad scientist. I love it. How often do you have to feed that boiler?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks. If it's cold outside it gets pretty hungry. Lol usually ever 4 hours I'll throw a couple chunks on.
@786otto
@786otto 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, You should really have a boiler hot water storage tank in this system.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that then I could store more heat. 👍👍
@786otto
@786otto 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 You will find tank that yoy can use.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@786otto Yes a big propane tank perhaps. 👍😊
@bondobob21
@bondobob21 3 жыл бұрын
Just thought I'd let you know I enjoy your videos - New subscriber...oh and by the way we have the same nick name . Got mine doing auto body trade.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Well thanks Bondo 👍 glad you liked the video buddy. 😊 Thanks for subscribing
@kanucks925
@kanucks925 2 жыл бұрын
Hi new subscriber here, great video. Could you please explain a little more about the 3 speed pump. I have an under floor between the joists system as well with 3 speed pumps but am not entirely sure what speed position to run them on.
@traviscover590
@traviscover590 3 жыл бұрын
Yes i like your new video you did a really good jop today so more your wood stove i am new here i have a my wife and son bsby girl's I am from Bedford Pennsylvania PA
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Travis awesome buddy. I will be doing more videos like this for you guys. Seems like you guys like this stuff. 👍
@traviscover590
@traviscover590 3 жыл бұрын
Ok buddy this so good how you guys doing the moming
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@traviscover590 thanks 😊
@bradjohnson9162
@bradjohnson9162 3 ай бұрын
Do you have or can you make a video of the pex running through your joists please. I know the videos old but worth a try
@Gavintyler21
@Gavintyler21 9 ай бұрын
I’m building a woodfired pool heater threw different videos I’ve looked up. I ran across your video, trying to figure out the best or a better more efficient way to heat the water of the pool I’ve thought about putting a radiant floor heating under and or inside my above ground pool versus running the actual pool water through stainless steel tubing inside a fire box What do you think would be more efficient of transferring heat?
@Mr379cat
@Mr379cat Жыл бұрын
I'm running 11 loops at 326 feet each in my shop 1 zone. I believe I want a propane boiler, could you give some advice on a pump and boiler and what btu it should be and expansion tank size
@domenicoangelini5264
@domenicoangelini5264 3 жыл бұрын
Great job with the floor heating. Would like to know more info on your heat exchanger that you built yourself. Does it give you alot of hot water? Will this application work if I wanted to heat up glycol with water passing through a heat exchanger as like you built?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you get a lot of hot water from this setup. You could heat glycol for sure with this heat exchanger. 👍
@PineCreek87
@PineCreek87 3 жыл бұрын
Looking to get a propane / wood for a new build slab on grade. This looks like a nice setup
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andre yes it worked good this winter 👍
@PineCreek87
@PineCreek87 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 What would be a mechanical room size you would suggest for this type of system? Currently 6 x 20 but I feel like 6 feet may not be wide enough? Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineCreek87 are you putting the wood in there too? Or just the boiler?
@PineCreek87
@PineCreek87 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386I have a wood shed and would like to store a cord or two inside.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineCreek87 I think 6 feet would be fine but 8 feet would be better. You need room to get all the way around the boiler to hook up and service. 😊
@mattius459
@mattius459 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could rig this up with smart home stuff so that the valves open/close and such automatically when you adjust it on your smart phone. Obviously you'd have to feed it wood still but I wonder if the rest of it could be regulated automatically?
@stevenpringle7813
@stevenpringle7813 2 жыл бұрын
For your DHW side arm it looks like you are connecting it to the top of the water heater. I was reading that this will create a thermal block where the pipe goes back down into the top of the water heater. They were saying that it has to go into the side of the tank at the top and that it can't go back down. I have no idea if this is really true or if it makes a difference in performance. Have you noticed any issues with the way you have it connected? Thanks.
@aaroncottrill7426
@aaroncottrill7426 7 ай бұрын
How nice is the sub floor heating vs concrete slab? Heat distribution wise?
@snicks50
@snicks50 Жыл бұрын
did you take out your check valves out of the mixing valve? Just wondering?
@czaxsbaxs
@czaxsbaxs 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for all you do. you are a fine fellow. do you travel for jobs?... NC, GA ?
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 3 жыл бұрын
Watch out that the Turdy Point Buck doesn't come after you LOL Nice simple setup, I like how you're using some of the heat from the shop boiler to preheat the water feeding your domestic heater. I'm not sure I'd be willing to trust that stand for the oil tank. I think you said that's a 100 gallon tank? That will be another 684 to 793 lbs of weight in that rack when full of #2 fuel oil.
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, just in case you're not familiar with the saga of the Turdy Point Buck (it's a Northern Michigan thing): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtR4gdSntKiYYoE.html
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
That stand is pretty stout I made it from pallet racking that is 3/16 wall 2-1/2" Square stock. You could park a bus on that thing. LOL
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 Gotcha, from the look I got in the video I thought it was a simple 2x4 framework.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@michiganengineer8621 👍
@denisormanzhi9822
@denisormanzhi9822 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron. Just wanted to ask. What parts of NY do you do work in? I'm planning on a future house build in Hawley, PA. I really like the radiant floor with icf foundation design you do. Hopefully I can afford and find someone to build like you do around me.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Denis. We work mostly in Oswego county. Usually I have more then I can handle locally. Talk to the concrete company’s in your area and that’s a good way to find out who does ICF around you and if there any good at it. This is a real good foundation system buddy. 👍
@casycasy5199
@casycasy5199 3 жыл бұрын
would love to see you explain the hot water better .you said your running it wide open ,so you dont have an aqausat (i know i didn't spell that right) so what temp is your hot water.i run a wood stove and my stat i put in by my blow out tube and im not getting the right temp from it.where would you put it.i use my electric side only during summer time.also how do you set up the mix valves your system looks nice
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Casy Casy I’m going to put a strap on aqua stat on my side arm but right now the zone valve is just manually open. So water coming from my boiler just loops through there and pre heats it. The boiler runs around 160f and the mixing valve just tempers the water down to around 120f. It steals return water and mixes it with boiler water. You don’t want 160f going into your in floor heat. So with that being said my domestic water is a little less then 120f.
@EdwardTilley
@EdwardTilley 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any benefit to running a ground heatpump line out in the yard as well? It doesn't look like it ... other than it would guarantee things wouldn't freeze when you're away and the other systems stop running.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Edward I don't think the cost of doing that would be worth the benefit gained. I think if the circulator failed it would still be able to freeze but it would take a long time as insulated as we are to freeze anyway.
@scottdanner9490
@scottdanner9490 9 ай бұрын
Hey Ron love the videos....I just found you and your site/channel....I have been planning and saving for a year and one half and it is finally happening. 20g worth of concrete later, but my frame is up for my 24 x 40 x 14 auto shop..... Any way I have a question for you. Do you have anymore information, pics or videos up for your homemade heat exchanger??? That really peaked my interest, I was going to use submerged ( salvaged HVAC) a-coils. Long story short, my budget is shot due to concrete cost over-runs......But I ran the pex in floor, have many of the copper components, have a giant wood burner with forced hot air....I want to do a closed loop for the floor heat, using my wood stove with an open loop add on, with a hot water heater maintainer (already purchased) SO your home made exchanger sounds and looks like just the DIY/ low budget answer to my prayers/ searches.. Thanks in advance....and keep up the great KZfaq work!! Scott D
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. hope the videos are helpful. Are you referring to the homemade boiler?
@MrSprintcat
@MrSprintcat 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome . are you running glycol in the system?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
No sir. My shop would never freeze. It’s like 75 degrees in there all winter. Lol 😂
@hvacdesignsolutions
@hvacdesignsolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get a Government grant for installing a log boiler? We do in the UK, under a Renewable Heat Incentive Scheme.
@robertyoung8878
@robertyoung8878 6 ай бұрын
How did you light a copper tubing in a concrete floor did you pour the concrete right over the copper tubing if you did I say expansion of the concrete warms up in cool soft hopefully you use PEX tubing that would expand with the concrete you have no problem retired boiler mechanic from Brooklyn New York 45 years experience
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 6 ай бұрын
Just the manifold is copper but the floor has pex tubing in it.
@squeekhobby4571
@squeekhobby4571 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. What is the temperature of garage say after 1 hour of wood burning. Also how log does it takes before we feel the heat in the air. I dream of radiant floors. My wood floors are cold😢😢
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
It takes a good day to get all the floors warmed up but after that they heat up and stay warm. once the floors are warm it actually heats the objects in the space and not the air so much. when your feet are warm you just feel more comfortable even if its not as warm on a thermometer.
@squeekhobby4571
@squeekhobby4571 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 ; thanks. My feet are cold and love to have radiant heat.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@squeekhobby4571 You would love it.
@DC8FD
@DC8FD 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video, I have a question: How much wood do you use to heat both your house and shop?? 2. do you add antifreeze or some other solution to keep your tubing lines from freezing?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
I burn about 16 face cords of wood a year. No antifreeze in the system. It would take a month of it shut down and probably would still not freeze. Thanks 😊
@casycasy5199
@casycasy5199 3 жыл бұрын
also id like to see how you made the heat exchanger for hot water
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a pipe within a pipe. Maybe I’ll do a video and try and explain that. I built it before I was doing KZfaq. Sorry
@domenicoangelini5264
@domenicoangelini5264 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 dont you get air build up at the top of the heat exchanger, where it reduces back to 3/4 inch?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@domenicoangelini5264 No I never have had any air in there after the system is blead of air.
@michaelstellar7968
@michaelstellar7968 2 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer this boiler over the AHS wood gun? Nice Job
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it burns more wood but is much simpler and less stuff to break and not many moving parts.
@jimanderson4495
@jimanderson4495 3 жыл бұрын
How the hell did you get that pex through the pvc pipe to your house? Also, what method did you use to fasten pex to underside of floor between joists in your house? Love the bathroom remodels. Keep em coming and stay warm. Oh... do you make venison sausage to eat with cheese, crackers and beer? I remember my dad would have that made by the butcher... omg that was good and spicey!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Ya Jim we make venison sausage we had some last night in the shop wit h some friends and some beers. LOL Than pex tubing was a pain to get into the sewer and drain pipe. I stretched it all out and got it straight and the memory out from being in t he roll. Then I put the pipe insulation on it and then duck taped everything and pulled one 10 foot piece of pipe over it at a time. The pex in my floor joist are just hooked to the metal bridging straps with zip ties. I think it shows in another video. Ill send it to ya buddy.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psyoYJWY0bvVY3U.html
@1mtstewart
@1mtstewart 2 жыл бұрын
Why not add a couple of rooftop solar hot water heaters to heat your water in a 150 gallon tank to store hot water as the inlet to your system? It would make your system almost fossil fuel free. Great video.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
I have bought about this a few times.
@1mtstewart
@1mtstewart 2 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 there is a ĺace on you tube that shows how the rooftop heat colllectors are made. They will sell you parts or an entire system. They are in California.
@peterbeyer5755
@peterbeyer5755 2 жыл бұрын
BRaudio makes a rocket stove water boiler to heat water.
@columbusjuju5500
@columbusjuju5500 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be u all my life. U are brilliant. Such thought and forethought. Gonna study video. I've built batchbox rocket stove boiler whole business home use . Thank u 4sharing
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome I'd love to see that rocket stove boiler in action buddy. Thanks for the compliment very nice to say. 😊
@columbusjuju5500
@columbusjuju5500 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 I'm not as good and thoughtful to my project as u have. I have a channel that followed the first attempt. Columbus Brooks. My Utube channel
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@columbusjuju5500 Ok I’ll check it out 👍😊
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing 3 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor of you hook up the oil line, add a valve after the filter housing as well. Helps keep the air out when you change the filter and bleed it.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Wade I want to get it hooked up for sure. Good idea with the valve. 👍
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 I have oil boiler backup to my wood boiler and it's a great feature. I have a control box which determines when to switch to oil. It's based on the water temp in the wood boiler.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Wade I'd like to do a video on your set up buddy. 👍👍 Give your channel a shout out as well 👍
@donmutchler939
@donmutchler939 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to add radiant heat to an already poured floor? Sub floor, maybe?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you could put 1" foam down and tubing and pour 3" slab on top. Or if it's for a house a wood stud foam combo with plywood over it. I have done that in garage to family room conversions.
@donmutchler939
@donmutchler939 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you located?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
@@donmutchler939 Mexico New York.
@casycasy5199
@casycasy5199 3 жыл бұрын
what is the temp of the water going into the floor, you dont have to worry about getting it to hot and cracking?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
The mixing valve tempers the water to 100 to 120 degrees ferenheight
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
The concrete will be fine and will not cause any problems you just don’t want 160 to 180 running into there. 100 to 120 is perfect for radiant heat. Supper nice way to heat a space. 👍
@markme4441
@markme4441 3 жыл бұрын
Do you always use 3/4" for the loops? And how large of a zone can that be?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
The l;oops are 1/2” oxygen barrior tubing buddy I’ll send you a couple videos on doing tubing it explains it all in detail. 👍😊
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9hxiM5636iaqYk.html
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g81xfdCSzZbFnoE.html
@markme4441
@markme4441 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@markme4441 You bet Mark 👍😊
@solstar4778
@solstar4778 3 жыл бұрын
Do yo have room fo heating a driveway and walkway so you don’t have to shovel them in central New York in the winter?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
I could but I would probably burn a bunch more wood. LOL
@elischultes6587
@elischultes6587 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 could make it switched. Coarse shovel then turn on the heat
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
​@@elischultes6587 True I could but then I GOTTA CUT MORE FIREWOOD. LOL 😂
@mattb4386
@mattb4386 3 жыл бұрын
Make a video about my boiler showing how simple it can be
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Ya Matt we are going to do one on your setup
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 his is just a pot of water, too boring! 🤣
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woodman_Custom_Sawing ya boring but it works. Lol
@janethouck3471
@janethouck3471 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to hook a hanging heater to the domestic coil off the furnace
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Janet. Why would I want to do that? The shop has the tubing in the floor already. It’s super warm out there.
@janethouck3471
@janethouck3471 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 so it does not cook the coil from being dry inside
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@janethouck3471 oh ok I see. It’s a copper coil so not sure about that?
@1mtstewart
@1mtstewart 2 жыл бұрын
Who made the boiler?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 жыл бұрын
Alternate heating systems out of PA.
@cpad007
@cpad007 3 жыл бұрын
1k+++!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
I made it big time. LOL 👍😊😊😊
@ronelsen6585
@ronelsen6585 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh i found this. Ignore the question on the slab pore. Lol
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Ok 👍
@radomirradovanovic6903
@radomirradovanovic6903 3 жыл бұрын
max . floor temp must be 85F - this is done?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
No the temp is at 120 F it starts at 160 from boiler then mixing valve lowers it to 120.
@radomirradovanovic6903
@radomirradovanovic6903 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 floor on 120F?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
@@radomirradovanovic6903 yes 120 F.
@davepierce6781
@davepierce6781 3 жыл бұрын
Piss poor workmanship and you can hear the air in those pumps
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 жыл бұрын
Dave why don't you put together some videos and show us all how its done. That would be more helpful then saying negative remarks on others youtube videos. You must be a pro.
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