Bonsaify | Harnessing Growth in 3 Year Old Japanese Black Pines to Make Shohin Bonsai: Fall Work

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Күн бұрын

Eric answers questions he's received from YOU on what to do with 3 year old pines in various states of growth! He uses six different pines to provide examples of what you should be doing.
00:00:33 First two in 3" containers (available at www.bonsaify.com/collections/.... These are 3 growing seasons old, from Fall 2019 into Spring 2020. They've all had 1 to 2 wirings, and Eric has focused on harnessing growth to make them into small bonsai (shohin for the most part).
00:01:36 Pine #1 has sent out little branches around the 1 year node. As long as they don't get shaded out, they can become low branches on a small tree.
00:02:37 Second year node side buds - Eric removes 2 to avoid reverse taper and ensure low branches aren't shaded.
00:04:25 Pine #2 removing buds and needles, cutting some needles short to remove burnt-looking tips (if your plants have these, it could either be from stress on the tree or a fungal infection.)
00:06:22 Eric plans to repot prior to spring to get nebari going in the right direction.
00:06:54 Pine #3 in 2 inch containers, decandled in June thus we see a lot of branching. In fact, "too many buds"! Eric needs the large branches to take off and run to bulk up the trunk.
00:08:35 Thinning needle buds.
00:11:43 With pine #4 Eric is ensuring good placement of buds by removing larger buds and keeping the smaller ones.
00:14:32 Pine #5 is even more vigorous and has a sharp bend.
00:17:10 Eric eliminates a good portion of new growth from Pine #6 to create a smaller pattern of growth and create more options for styling the tree when the trunk gets bigger.
Thank you for sending us your questions about what to do with 3 year old Japanese Black Pines! Let us know how these ideas help you, in the comments below. Please like and share this video, and subscribe to our channel!

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@mattbrennan647
@mattbrennan647 5 ай бұрын
I’ve watched dozens of JBP tutorial videos. Yours are BY FAR the best. Please keep them coming. Thanks, keep growing
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt! I've actually tried to do fewer juniper and pine videos because even though that is one of the main products of much of my work and business I didn't want people to get bored! But I'll definitely be doing more.
@tmister007
@tmister007 Жыл бұрын
Eric! thank you so much for this video! Perfect timing, me and the mrs just up potted 80 black pine 1yr old seedlings and were thinking of strategys for next year. Love the videos as always!
@PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony
@PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Eric, Thank you so much for all the info, This is one of those that you watch and then save to watch again later. Chalked full of good stuff.
@dermo1981
@dermo1981 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Eric. Thanks 👍
@wshow11
@wshow11 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information guys. Thanks!
@jiijino_bonsai_ch
@jiijino_bonsai_ch Жыл бұрын
Good material.😍 I'm looking forward to seeing how it grows.🤗
@hyperionhelios190
@hyperionhelios190 Жыл бұрын
great video thanks Eric.
@robertobreglia9224
@robertobreglia9224 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this very interesting video!👍👍👍
@kylepurvis8818
@kylepurvis8818 Жыл бұрын
Great video Eric, super loaded with info that is impossible to find in a book- wish I could spend a week with you learning your propagation techniques. I have about 800 JBP seedlings started this past spring- I’m in coastal SC, can I safely start potting them up now or best to wait till spring? I don’t currently have a heat bed to place them on.
@9daywonda
@9daywonda Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial as ever keep up the good work and I trust that your keeping well my man?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Just as crazy as ever. 🤷‍♂️
@pauloarakaki212
@pauloarakaki212 Жыл бұрын
Very very good. Regards. PJA😀😀😀
@GreenPumpkin767
@GreenPumpkin767 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy your content immensely. I have learned to much and finally purchased some Japanese Black Pines from you and they are beautiful. Could you tell what I should do to specifically grow a thick truck. Do I cut the candles or leave them to grow. Thank you for everything you do.
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify 4 ай бұрын
To get a thick trunk you need strong growth - so with pines you cut back most of the branching while allowing the central bud to become a sacrifice branch. That way you can just cut off the sacrifice branch later. If you decandle everything trunk growth is nearly zero. If you decandle nothing you get a tree rather than a bonsai. You might consider the pine eCourse on bonsaify.com for more details.
@william8078
@william8078 Жыл бұрын
Do you send to Florida? Another great video, man.
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Hi - yes we do. We ship to all 50 states.👍
@jaybolinger2865
@jaybolinger2865 Жыл бұрын
I have a 3year black pine as well. How should I treat it if I'm trying to let it get big?
@jonathanaristone2468
@jonathanaristone2468 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric I'm in Canada and acquired two JBP 18 mo. old from BC. Did you already wire these and begin the shaping process? Thanks
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Yes, wiring in years 1-2 is better. At year three the trunks are normally too stiff to wire anything but gentle curves. Although that can happen with overly vigorous 2 year olds also. Or you may find some three year olds that are still flexible, in which case go for it!
@jonathanaristone2468
@jonathanaristone2468 Жыл бұрын
@@Bonsaify Thanks Eric our Ontario Bonsai groups ordered a flat of these from Gerald Rainville in BC so we are all tuning into your YT channel for guidance. Thanks so much.
@Kwood10
@Kwood10 Жыл бұрын
I have some pine seedlings I got they don’t have much thick growth & I haven’t wired them yet should I just keep letting them grow taller & de candle them when they get tall candles? What time of year to De candle in the PNW ?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Wiring is perhaps the most important thing if you want a good bonsai - otherwise you just have a straight tree, right? Decandling is a control and refinement technique - wiring is a shaping technique. You need to use both in combination. As for the timing - mid-growing-season is when you decandle. Here in SF that's June 1st-15th, probably similar where you are, but could be earlier or later depending on how hot your summers are (e.g. how close to the ocean you are etc.)
@Ashley-ti6mp
@Ashley-ti6mp Жыл бұрын
Can I do this work now on pine in North Texas?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Yes! Anywhere in the northern hemisphere - Late Oct through December. with trees that were NOT decandled, it can be done earlier in the fall also.
@cherylandrews3195
@cherylandrews3195 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video! What size pot will you be putting them into when you repot? I wish I could get some of your trees but they wont let me get them across the border to Canada :( Do you sell seeds for them? I would so buy them!
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Pots - pond baskets like 20cm size or even the 6" round ones work. People use Chinese plastic colanders also. A standard nursery 3-gallon works fine, but you'll need to do more root pruning to get good nebari. Seeds - we'll be offering JBP seed from the Alameda parent tree soon!
@cherylandrews3195
@cherylandrews3195 Жыл бұрын
@@Bonsaify I tried to buy them, says it wont ship to Canada :(
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Hi! I think I fixed it. See if you can do it now. (BTW, we're not 100% sure we're allowed, so if they get confiscated at customs there's not much we can do.)
@cherylandrews3195
@cherylandrews3195 Жыл бұрын
ok it worked! Thank you!
@MarkusMh
@MarkusMh Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric I was wondering what recommendations you had for substrate for young pines. I know you like your coarse and extra coarse perlite, but that isn't easily accessible for me. Alternatives?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Pumice, Lava and Fir bark is a viable alternate. But you could use Pumice/Lava and coir or leave out the pumice and use Lava/Bark and/or another aggregate like decomposed granite. Avoid Turface at all costs. Bark/Coir should be about 20-30% of the mix, not more, not less. Vermiculite I believe is also fine, but I haven't used it personally. Carful with pumice - washing it is best as it can have sodium in the dust. Careful with lava - it can have excess manganese and other salts - so washing is also best. Bark should be screened to larger than 1/8" and smaller than 3/4" ideally. The bark will break down over time, but as long as the percentage isn't too high it wont degrade the soil structure.
@MarkusMh
@MarkusMh Жыл бұрын
@@Bonsaify Thank you! Will probably go with lava and coir or bark, since I already have that stockpiled. Excited to try the deeper pots and see if I notice any differences in results. Usually been making seedling cuttings like everyone else, but your results are impressive in the deep containers. Thanks again.
@MarkusMh
@MarkusMh Жыл бұрын
@@Bonsaify Thanks for the insights Eric. Quick question, do you plant your seeds directly in the finer perlite and coco mix or do you germinate them in a different way? When do you do the first repot of the seedlings? (Assuming you grow the seedlings yourself)
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
Yes, seeds go directly into the perlite/coco mixture in Anderson flats in a greenhouse. Repotting usually waits until the first winter afterward, but if they are too dense we pull them apart earlier. If you're doing seedling cuttings, you'd want to do it about 3 weeks after germination.
@MarkusMh
@MarkusMh Жыл бұрын
@@Bonsaify Gotcha. Experimenting with the finer perlite and coco this year. So all this info is great. Thanks
@jeffjernberg1810
@jeffjernberg1810 29 күн бұрын
What do you use to treat for phytophthora?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify 28 күн бұрын
At the moment I'm treating pines with Phyton 32, which is a copper compound. But normal copper spray or daconil are good for stopping the spread. There is nothing curative you can really do to existing needles that are infected. Propiconazole ( amzn.to/454WM4x ) is a systemic that's pretty good at slowing it down. A rotation of fungicides is best.
@brucedeacon28
@brucedeacon28 Жыл бұрын
👍👌🙂
@bobmccarlie382
@bobmccarlie382 Жыл бұрын
What percentage of the seedlings you produce do you discard after 1, 2 or 3 years because you don’t think they will ever be worthwhile?
@Bonsaify
@Bonsaify Жыл бұрын
In years 1-2 there is not enough there to make any decisions. In year 3 there typically is the beginning of an idea of the budding pattern and some problems may be obvious. But, I think it's year 4-5 where you should cull trees you don't think you want. Keep in mind that something that doesn't work for an 8-inch shohin may work fine for a 24" field-grown trunk, or a 6-foot tall niwaki. Also consider that hard cutback can lengthen the timeline for creating a finished tree, but conversely solve some problems. By year 4-5 you should be able to identify any trees that are genetic outliers - e.g. very long necks on the candles, poor budding characteristics or bad needle quality.
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