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You guys are awesome and I can't wait to have you two homies back on soon!

How do you feel about the information hemlock knots, Rob Fotheringham and others have discovered that says Joseph never practiced or preached polygamy? The reason i ask is because you mentioned the ces papers.

There have been a lot of.bad things said about Tim Balard, having worked with him is any of it true? Thank you for rescuing the children. My heart aches for them. I fear for my grandchildren. We were riding down our country road the other day and some people in a minivan came around the corner from behind and drove very slowly and video tape them. He looked to be a young hispanic man. I feel the scouts have targeted them. Three little blue eyed blonds.

Great job guys. Keep it up!❤

Your position is Ludacris. How many millions of people have died with no record they ever lived? Jesus will take care of this. He doesn't need or want your help..

@johnrowley310 Yes! He will, and he has! That my friend is my point. It's a glorious truth! Corinthians 15:29.

Jesus Christ, on The Mount, laid out a SIMPLE RELIGION. LOVE...SERVE....FORGIVE

As a lifelong member of the lds faith I would love nothing more then to put my money into a collection tray and kick back dance at church and listen to a well put together sermon eat some food and go home and not have to worry about home teaching or God knows what other lesson I have to prepare. Secondly since we do these things day in n day out I would like a stipend akin to what the bretheren at the top are pulling down. You don't have to be a brain surgeon let alone a heart surgeon to figure this out. The math ain't mathin.

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There is not plenty of proof. .quit fooling yourself

I went on the holy land tour with Daniel and steven Rona who are Jewish and the book of Mormon was proven to be true many times also the scriptures say all the mysteries of God have not been revealed yet and some only are revealed according to our faith because God wont be mocked the more Mormon stories podcast learn they would only make a lie of it

I think you misunderstood, the Paul brother, I forget which one, was not talking about his own beliefs, but what he understood Calvinist preach. LDS do not believe in "Hell" as a place, but a state of mind, as is clearly taught in the Book of Mormon.

@@brettmajeske3525 yes, I got that that was probably the case. I was commenting that he doesn't understand what evangelicals believe. That's a pop culture and middle age art view of scripture that you can't actually find in the Bible.

@@valeried7210 While I, and most LDS, agree that is not what the Bible teaches, it is what I learned in Catholic school, and what my wife learned growing up Protestant. Since Evangelical denominations are a minority among Christians, assuming a mainstream view is likely warranted. Especially since they were specifically talking about hard core Calvinists.

@@brettmajeske3525 ok, I can just tell you I know no one who believes that unless they've absorbed it through pop culture. I've never heard it in a sermon except to be told it was wrong. If you could find it in the catechism you were taught, I'd be surprised.

@@valeried7210 Things were different 50 years ago. I am aware that mainstream Protestantism has lost over 50% of its membership in the past 60 years or so. All the new Evangelicals and LDS had to come from somewhere. There is also the difference between what lay members actually believe, and official doctrines. There is a channel called Ready to Harvest hosted by a professor of religion at a Baptist college that has some videos on the topic. Basically general population surveys indicate very few Americans believe in Eternal Conscious Torment, even though it is the predominate official view of traditional mainline Protestant churches. Which might explain why so many have converted to LDS and Evangelical churches.

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So they stopped trying to prove it so it could be believed by faith alone? And they expect people to take that seriously?😅😅😅😅

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I think he just started meeting with the missionaries.

Did you ever think that he is creating bridges by not joining the church. How many evangelicals would listen to him if he took one stance. Here is something to consider. And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.” 1 Nephi 14:14. Is it possible the saints of the church are Christians of other churches and the covenant people are LDS members. Ephesians 4:11-14 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. There is going to be a whole lot of people who survive the second coming who are not LDS. It will all work out in the end.

@@jeffreyturner4252 I am evangelical.

@@jeffreyturner4252 I love the lds people but I have huge disagreements, and if he were truly an evangelical he would be trying to evangelize the ld people, atleast sometimes. God spews luke warm water out of his mouth. I enjoy his videos and lds theology is interesting to me because it is like an alternate universe, but I have to tell them that they have a false gospel because I am truly evangelical.

​@@jeffreyturner4252 there is no bridges to be had,Christianity does not compromise but confirm God's great commission that Jesus Christ is God our Lord and Savior 🙏✝️🕊

Dan McClellan of Data over Dogma has some video on the curse tablet explaining why many professionals are questioning that interpretation. He is a good source if one cares about academic study on the Hebrew Bible. I do not understand by what you mean by "provides a reset for the real operation they will do later", that doesn't correspond to any LDS teaching I have heard of. Are you suggesting LDS do not think that this life is important?

@@brettmajeske3525 do you have a link to that video? I'm interested in watching it. The paper was just published yesterday and it's long so I'd be surprised if he's already responded to that. But I'm not surprised he would dispute what's initially in the news. From what I've seen of him he's definitely of the opinion that Israel never worshipped Yahweh from the beginning and that was a later invention, which the reading of the tablet in the publication definitely indirectly disputes. I think LDS believe this life is a test - much like other religions, so it's important in that way, a work to get a reward. Evangelical Christians would say no, it's actually a story about Jesus and the work he did that we never could. It's not a test; it's about our relationship to him. I called it a "reset" because Jesus defeats physical death and provides a resurrection. I know LDS beliefs aren't really a reset in general. I just couldn't think of a quick way to describe the difference in the work Jesus does. 🙂 But the main difference about salvation I think is that Jesus doesn't gain the victory over spiritual death and that's our mostly our job. In Protestant Christianity (not sure about others) - that's not the case. Spiritual death is conquered first by Christ.

Yeah man you need to look at Dan McLellan that dude will teach you all about EL. Good spot to look he was on gospel tangents recently. Think he was on here too with a woman who wrote all about the physicality of God in the bible. The tablets you speak of aren't even considered to be solid archeolgy and the claims they have made sorrounding them have not really been substantiated by any credible sources. Has that changed? I thought this was another we found chariots in the red sea type of thing.

I read through the whole paper and looked at Dan McClellan's little video. There's one more paper that's supposed to come out about the outside of the tablet, which will be interesting. But this is a new method to read through lead and the epigrapher who read all the characters more recently has a reputation of claiming a lot. I wish they would have given a partial list of characters the other epigrapher accepted. Anyway, I think it will establish literacy at an earlier era, but maybe not the whole saying because OT scholars are not going to give up their favorite hypothesis without definitive evidence. Still if Mormons take scripture seriously, tri-theism is not supported by the names of God in the OT. 😊

@@valeried7210 Tritheisim? I am not sure what you mean by that. In any case secular scholarship has well established that the earliest text seem to suggest Jehovah as being the son of Elyon the most high. The two do not seem to have been conflated until around 7-800 BCE. Scholarly theories have their own problems of course, but I do not see how a single artifact will upset their conclusions overly much. I do know LDS are often tickled pink with the idea that ancient Hebrews recognized a Heavenly Father, Heavenly Mother, with Jehovah the creator of the world being their son. Other aspects do not line up as well, so I think LDS should be careful at embracing the secular scholarship too much. As far as the Atonement goes, Jesus absolutely conquers spiritual death, something of which humanity is clearly incapable. There is nothing in LDS theology stating Jesus only saved us from physical death. I am honestly uncertain why you think that is what LDS believe. LDS are not taught to "work for a reward". Jacob, in the Book of Mormon, clearly teaches that everything we have, including our bodies and the air we breathe, belong to God. Even if we strive with all our effort we could never pay him back for *life*, let alone resurrection and repentance. Then on top of that when we are obedient and serve his will, he blesses us even more. Jesus conquered death for us, both physical and spiritual. When we repent of our sins, what is in effect happening is that we are accepting the grace of the infinite atonement to wash us clean. We are not capable of cleansing ourselves. Yes we believe that God rewards righteousness, but not because it merits reward. Because He loves us. We do not strive to become more like Him for the reward, but because we love Him. Every soul will be brought back into the presence of our Heavenly Father, without exception. I think what may be confusing for you is that at that point LDS believe everyone will make a choice whether or not to stay. The unclean will feel too uncomfortable in the presence of perfection. All our efforts come down to the choice, to accept the purification He offers, to seek to become like Him, so that we will want to stay with Him. The work is accomplished by the merits of Christ, we just have the choice to accept it or reject it.

You say Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever but Joseph Smith said that he had to learn to become a god like all the other gods before him

Inconvenient TRUTHS

@@krismurphy7711 ya but are they? Truths that is?

@@cabarete2003 Absolutely. WE KNOW from his Father in Law that he agreed to STOP moneydigging and get a real job. We KNOW he was involved with and married YOUNG TEEN GIRLS 14, 15, 16. 17. WE KNOW he lied to Emma about polygamy. WE KNOW he lied publicly about polygamy. WE KNOW he got others to lie about polygamy. WE KNOW he ordered the destruction of the printing press to SILENCE being outed further. WE KNOW the 1832 First Version of The First Vision is totally different than later Versions (calling into question whether there was a "First Vision." There is more WE KNOW *partial list

Yeah but a rod in the bom is the Holy scriptures. It's the word of God if you want to equate it to Jesus or God's Kingdom (the first: israel and the last Gentiles) I don't think it really matters. It holds true in all 3 respects just like jesus is the word the word made flesh and u learn that through the word. Your just splitting hairs when u try to say that the stories that come out of the southern and northern kingdom are not and cannot be the words that come out of said kingdoms. The mission statement of the bom is to gather Israel and restore God's people to their rightful kingdom. I don't see a problem. Wasn't lehi people the other sheep not of this fold wasn't he part of the northern kingdom? So it's beautiful on so many levels and ur looking at it at face value where as God says that every soul is precious to him. And will be by his words and through his word it is accomplished. Personally I think you got an elementary understanding of the scriptures but that's all right for jesus Said suffer the lil children to come unto me. And they that erred will learn doctrine. The wisdom of their wise and prudent shall fail. You think all families of the earth shall be blessed has anything to do with what flag u belong weather it be north south east or west? No man it's bout the stories we tell and not the borders we claim. It's not about two kingdoms becoming one it's about becoming one as they are one. Silly rabbit trix are for kids. Could be a lovely story God told his children a midrash to put upon them the spirit of deep sleep so that when he who comes to open the eyes of ur understanding has not only saved you but saved you from yourself. God only knows but I certainly do believe the voices that cry from the dust and Joseph did too to the tune of about 16 bullets. So it is the stick of Joseph on a level u may never understand. All u gotta do with this book is make place for it in your heart where a seed can be planted. You nourish that seed by the good word having faith in him and you are promised if you do this he will manifest the truth of it unto you by the power of the Holy Ghost. This invitation is to all the world not just this one doubting Thomas. Blessed are they who have not seen and have yet believed. That includes you Steve ur on the path that leads to the fruitful tree but you still have not as yet partaken fully of it so how is it you can beckon to others and tell them it is a good fruit. What you need to tell them it is the most desirable fruit above all other fruit. And u cannot say it is true on the one hand or the other. He is the prince of peace but Jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword. This is the sword of truth and it has become one in my hand and I will not say peace until the peace that surpasses all understanding has safely enfolded all of these my brothers and sisters safely in his hands. It's real easy to split hairs it's harder to understand that every hair is numbered in the household of God. Thats what the boms about that's what the bibles about wherefore can ye doubt?

@@six1nyne LOL 😆 at your Restoration kingdom in Missouri: not the Authentic Jerusalem in Israel or Kingdom of God[ singular ]. BoM just a second counterfeit witness of Christ !

Ok I've read and reread the whole Chapter. So you're taking every verse literally in describing the gathering of Israel (as in the Southern and Northern tribes only) and with no connection whatsoever to the Book of Mormon. I understand that. But if you're going to consider every verse literally, then you need to apply that thinking to every verse and not just to the verses that happens to suit you (as we are often accused of.) Consider for example, verse 16 and 20 which specifically says the sticks contain writing... This is definitely not referring to people or tribes of people. See also verse 21 which speaks of a general and much wider dispersal of of the Children of Israel from among the heathen "whither they be gone." This is certainly not limited to those of the Southern or Northern tribes only but to the whole House of Israel, wherever they have been led away to. It's undeniably true that the Stick of Joseph may not apply to the Book of Mormon, but it's definitely a stick containing writing and separate and distinct from the Stick of Judah or the Bible. Where is this writing Stick of Ephraim?

​@@jamesbaldwin7676 Thank you for even looking into a different interpretation. It can be hard to look at something a different way when you have only been taught one way. I commend you. 1) I do not take the whole chapter literally. It contains metaphors and I take them metaphorically, but I take the interpretations given for the metaphors literally. 2) When it comes to the unification of Israel their were only the northern and southern kingdoms. There was no east or west kingdom. All 12 lived within north or south. 3) The stick of Judah is not the Bible. It is also just a stick representing the Southern kingdom. 4) The writing on the sticks was small and is given in the text. The KJV has a poor translation and never uses quotation marks. Both of the capitalized "For"s in KJV verse 16 begin the new quotation of the text on the sticks. A better translation is: 15 The word of the Lord came to me: 16 “Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, ‘Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, ‘Belonging to Joseph (that is, to Ephraim) and all the Israelites associated with him.’ 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand. The rest of the chapter is obviously about the return of the house of Israel regaining the lands of their inheritance and living as Zion. This is what the sticks are representing.

@@six1nyne A rod in the BoM does not represent the holy scriptures. It is something else. "Wherefore, now after I have spoken these words, if ye cannot understand them it will be because ye ask not, neither do ye knock; wherefore, ye are not brought into the light, but must perish in the dark."

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Who needs proof when you have unsubstantiated pointless anecdotes for the faithful 😅😅😅

The Book of Mormon claims to come from more than one place, why not look at more than just one?

It's like the Decalogue Stele dug up from a Cahokian burial in one of the mounds by the Smithsonian. This Egyptian looking artifact with the Ten Commandments written in ancient Hebrew is a puzzle. Was it made in the Americas or brought from the Middle East, did it belong to the descendants of people from The Book Of Mormon or a group of Jews that got here hundreds of years before Columbus or even any Vikings? This is just one of many official artifacts that don't fit the current theories, so they're ignored. Unlike hundreds to thousands of artifacts that aren't supposed to exist in the Americas according to current theories, so they have been automatically labeled hoaxes without examination, because they are said to have been found by farmers ploughing their fields or digging wells, instead of in official archeological digs. There are some artifacts that have since been accepted as real, like the Clovis Points. It took the death of the head of the Smithsonian, who believed the earth was no more than 6,000 years old, before any archeological artifacts older than 4,000 B.C.E. were accepted by the Smithsonian.

And they are definitely straight!

@@MormonBookReviews Lol, how hard did you try?

This comment makes me giggle because their fathers job and life’s work has become feeding people all over the world. Good for you for being a foster parent. Touting things you have done to put others down isn’t a good look. Talk about off putting! Be better!

@@lesliepaul1302 fuck that. Apologetics is always unethical. Any amount spent on it takes from other projects. These guys want people to be loyal, tithe paying Mormons because they believe the Book of Mormon is true. And they want people to discriminate against LGBTQ people like their obscene leaders do. It's disgusting.

@@lesliepaul1302 if my kids hadn't been mistreated so often by Mormons I wouldn't be paying much attention to the church. They've been mistreated because they are native American, gay, and/or non Mormon. The amount of bigotry and cruelty that has resulted from the Book of Mormon and LDS theology enrages me. Keep giggling!

I grant them the $40k if the church puts 1% of their $200 billion into feeding the poor and homeless.

​@Charles Mendeley Well, the church does more in helping the poor and homeless and donating to good causes than most. It's something you can look up. It's a whole organized production.