Boox How To: Setup and Use Library Synchronization

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00:00 - Intro
01:45 - Library Scan vs Directory Mode
05:35 - Use the Same Account and Server
06:52 - Enabling the Sync Mode for Documents
09:30 - Document Placement and Name
12:28 - Using the Library Synchronization
16:28 - Conclusion
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Boox has introduced the functionality of library synchronization with the Onyx Cloud account in the update 3.3.1 which has rolled out to many devices. In my initial coverage of the update 3.3.1, I was unable to get the library to function but have since understood what the problem was and where I was making the mistake. Since getting this functionality to work is very far from an intuitive process, but it is a very useful feature, I decided to make a How To video about it. Hopefully, it helps :)
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@cosmonz
@cosmonz 7 күн бұрын
As a Nova Air 2 and Scribe user this came in very useful! Especially as my frustration over the closed garden nature of the Scribe is pushing me down the route of multiple Boox devices (Probably Nova + Go 10.3) This is *exactly* what I wanted to see - being an MDG user helped ;)
@michaelbates5507
@michaelbates5507 8 ай бұрын
So helpful. You are such a good teacher. I love how you answer the question as I’m asking myself. Also just bought MDO. Keep up good work.
@wheatdevon
@wheatdevon Жыл бұрын
This function is just what I was looking for. I have multiple techs working across the middle of the country and receiving phone calls daily for scheduling.
@angal26
@angal26 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this super informative and useful tutorial video! The live sync demo is totally awesome! I use MDO 2023 on a daily basis. Highly recommended for anyone who wants a fantastic digital organiser.
@jamesthompson7282
@jamesthompson7282 11 күн бұрын
Thanks, Voja. Good explanation of a convoluted process that should NEVER have been so complex. This is ANOTHER instance of Boox's operating system being BAD. I love the device - sort of - but this stuff drives us ALL crazy. The overhead involved in learning to get productive on the device is ridiculous. Android has a user interface; so does Windows; so does Apple's iPad & desktop OS's. They aren't identical in interface approach but they're pretty consistent. Boox looks like they decided to invent the UI from scratch without ever having seen anyone else's. Damn, it's frustrating. When a document is accessed from Boox devices or sent to a Boox device it's source directory path should be captured with it & be part of the header file (metadata) for the file. Should be transparent to the user. Making that work in future UI upgrades should be possible invisibly to the user. We can hope. I gather each new version of the Boox interface includes some minor changes that bring the UI a little closer to market standard. Let's hope they pick up the pace. Meanwhile, Voja's videos are extremely helpful. I'm subscribed & a fan.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide 11 күн бұрын
Exactly my thoughts as well. Metadata exists for that purpose (amongst other), and it can also contain a unique ID int, and that makes the process for the system as simple as: 1. Find object with ID #### 2. Synchronize data while the user only needs to press the sync button, if even that, in case there is an auto-sync option. It's baffling sometimes what is going on... Thank you for watching and for the sub! 😁
@tonray9395
@tonray9395 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Thanks !
@tavrafii
@tavrafii Жыл бұрын
👏👏 very useful. Thanks
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus Жыл бұрын
Speaking of traps, pitfalls, and snakes, here is an edge-case I believe it would be interesting to test: Suppose you have the same document open on two or more devices, as you did in your demo. What happens if you make a change to the document on one device, *do not sync yet*, then make a change to the document on a different device, and only then activate the sync function on both devices? Do both changes get reflected on both devices? Does one of the updated versions override the other? I grant that there are probably a limited set of practical situations in which this would become relevant (limited but not zero-I could see it happening if, say, you and your spouse share a calendar or organizer for family events). In any case, as a matter of testing behaviour and exception handling, I had to dream it up.
@wheatdevon
@wheatdevon Жыл бұрын
Valid point. I want to use this function to sync field techs tablets aross the country. I was thinking tech1, tech2... So on as the file name but can this happen if I have techs 200 - 500 - 700 miles apart. Or do they have to be on the same wifi network?
@gwojcieszczuk
@gwojcieszczuk Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
@gwojcieszczuk
@gwojcieszczuk Жыл бұрын
Voja, some idea for video: screen casting with Boox tablet. I'm in education sector, and I used to use wacom tablet+whiteboard software to draw during class presentations. Recently I started using my Note Air 2 Plus instead of wacom tablet. I'm currently using Airdroid Cast to present the boox screen to students. I also tried Anydesk, which works very well, but it's a bit too pricey just for screencasting. Any thoughts?
@williamwallace644
@williamwallace644 Жыл бұрын
@@gwojcieszczuk I don't know the English name of that device, but it's like overhead projector, not optical but digital. That device can project paper or book to the large computer screen in the front of classroom, and you can easily swich between PPT and book (or your Boox tablet) because that device is controlled by the computer on teacher desk. It became a thing about fifteen some years ago, at least in my hometown, and every classroom has that device since then.
@gwojcieszczuk
@gwojcieszczuk Жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace644 Let me know if you find the name of this device. I've never heard of solution like this.
@williamwallace644
@williamwallace644 Жыл бұрын
@@gwojcieszczuk The name is「visual presenter」or「document camera」or「视频展台」in Chinese. The device is very commonly used in primary school and high school in China.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
@Greg W Thank you very much for your support! As for casting, I have tried several different apps and have come to a conclusion that as long as you pick one of the good rated and "standard" apps, they tend to do the job quite nicely. However, I personally stay away from free apps like those, since you'll be sharing quite a lot of your data and opening up a lot of permissions for those apps, and it's better to be on the cautious side of things. As for specific examples, I haven't used it in such a way for some time now. I remember that AirDroid used to work well, but I would need to check the options available now, and then come back to you with an updated opinion, that is more current and valid :)
@user-to3yi9sp6b
@user-to3yi9sp6b 7 ай бұрын
Can't thank you more!
@ericvanoppens3179
@ericvanoppens3179 Жыл бұрын
A possible reason to "hide" this synchronisation is the fact that you can not only synchronise your own documents but also the e-books that you bought. This could seriously affect the author's rights to the book. As stated: Basic Copyright Protection: By law, only the author, who is the owner of the copyright, has the right to reproduce or distribute the eBook, unless express permission has been granted. So the company and the user could risk lawsuits for making this possible. So I do understand that they are not keen to make that too easy to use.
@ispamiri
@ispamiri 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Vojislav. I'm beginning to understand a little more about this BOOX Tab. I'm a musician and I have about 1500 music sheets and lyrics (pdf and jpg) that I would like to have in the BOOX Tab. I would like to make a list of the tunes I will play in a concert and to put some of these musicsheet in a folder, in the order that should be performed in concert. I have a turn pages pedal. Can you help me understand how to do this ?
@moony2703
@moony2703 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Very useful on helping me set up things up, or rather knowing I'd set my Google Drive and Dropbox up correctly so I could send myself off down a different rabbit hole trying to figure out how to get my Onyx sync back on. (Issue and Solution in a different comment in case anyone else needs it). I've been admiring Boox's ease of use in terms having the Google app store in their new almost phone ereader vs my Hisense A9 phone which doesn't, in terms of potentially recommending them to other people. I guess you could say this is a bit of a reality check that Boox still isn't exactly the easiest to use. XD Also I think I've gotten used to my phones, Hisense and Iphone alike, shooting me off towards the exact settings I need to streak if something is blocked or at least having that option. I can block/unblock things all day long if I want to, with just a quick trip to the main settings to flip a switch when needs change. Boox did not do that when trying to figure out how to turn the Onyx cloud sync back on, it wasn't even in the main menu or the notes settings but an individual notes settings of all places. Which okay kind of makes sense but I just spent three days, on and off, looking for it on my Air because I expected it to be in the main settings or main notes settings or some sort of 'main'. But anyway found it! Also just got my Tab Ultra and accidentally blocked the physical keyboard because I originally thought it was the default web browser asking for permissions and I didn't need the webbrowser, and then the keyboard seemingly randomly asked for audio permissions I didn't want to give or need and then I got the dreaded 'device doesn't have enough permissions to function' and realised in the default web browser probably the first time I'd used the physical keyboard and whoops that probably wasn't the browser asking for permission. Cue searching through the settings trying to find the physical keyboard permission settings and eventually doing all but a factory reset to get the keyboard working again because I couldn't find the permission settings. I've gotten so used to being able to flick permissions on and off as needed on my Hisense A9 that I just expect them to be there partially if it bricks a physical device specifically designed to work with that device like the keyboard cover that's literally connected to it. Just... Boox's stuff is amazing and let's you do lots of stuff, but yeah the setup process for edevices is not always the simplest in general and I will include my Hisense A9 in thatfor all that once I have things set up the way I want it works perfectly, it's just getting there can be a Process.
@AsherTech
@AsherTech 2 ай бұрын
The fact I need to watch a video guide on how to sync things properly
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide 2 ай бұрын
Speaks volumes about the UX...
@AsherTech
@AsherTech 2 ай бұрын
@@MyDeepGuide I had to watch to learn that syncing was done but not up to date
@Millarayr
@Millarayr 8 ай бұрын
Jajajaja thanks Indiana!
@user-er9rh7kk6f
@user-er9rh7kk6f 4 ай бұрын
bro ur a fucking genius
@mikeschmid9949
@mikeschmid9949 5 ай бұрын
any video you have to sync my markups from MDO to google drive? I don't have multiple boox devices, but want to access my notes on MDO from my phone and/or browser via google drive. Love the planner, thanks for making it!
@brochiersoieriesvieuxlyon
@brochiersoieriesvieuxlyon Жыл бұрын
Hi Voja, I just finished watching your Big Boox Guide (7 vidéos, right?), but I still have a concern whose answer I still didn't find in any of my searches here nor in Kit's or Brandon's videos (maybe I didn't really searched well...). As I'm about to order a Boox Note Air 2 Plus, I just want to know how we work with hand annotations and bookmarks on epubs specially. Can we make a research on these notes? Can we export them and how dos they look like on a computer? Did you make a video on this topic? Than you! Eliza
@thispaulrules
@thispaulrules Жыл бұрын
Since you use Autosync to also sync the pdfs (which will include the annotations), have you noticed any issues between the Onyx syn and the Autosync app? Overwriting each other, etc?
@michaelheathcote9488
@michaelheathcote9488 11 ай бұрын
I believe this relates to documents synchronisation. Is this possible for notes synchronisation across devices? Thanks.
@ichwill4022
@ichwill4022 7 ай бұрын
Thank you - ehat are the cloud storsges good for?
@wheatdevon
@wheatdevon Жыл бұрын
By "server" you mean like same wifi network or can I have a tablet in Iowa sync with a tablet in Nebraska and a tablet in Idaho and a table in North Dakota? And a tablet in KS?
@studiovkv
@studiovkv Жыл бұрын
Thank you Voja! Very helpful Boox "tips and tricks" video! You are saving a lot of time for Boox users and me personaly... Thank you again! I have some dificulties with Notes sync (Boox cloud) between TabX and Note Air (1). Maybe the problem is different screen resolution (1650x2200 vs 1404x1802)... Do you have some "tips and tricks" for Notes sync (and for different E-Ink boox screens) ?
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
I am glad it helps! :) I haven't noticed any issues between the Tab X and Note Air 1, as I have those devices here now, and when I tried, it all synced like shown on the video. Are you using the US server on both?
@studiovkv
@studiovkv Жыл бұрын
@@MyDeepGuide US server on both... My problem is with canvas size and orientation... I use Note Air (1) usualy in landscape mode (with presumption to print 2 Note pages on 1 A4 sheet of paper) and Tab X in portrait mode (much bigger screen)...
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
Well that can't work, as one is landscape and the other portrait, and Boox notebooks really can't handle the orientation flipping in a good way, as the built in template and canvas control is so confusing how it works, that it can be characterized as not working. So it's best to use a landscape notebook only in landscape orientation and a portrait notebook only in portrait orientation.
@studiovkv
@studiovkv Жыл бұрын
@@MyDeepGuide Yes... Unfortuantely you are right... I can not start my structural calculations on Note Air and continue to work on the same note with Tab X. Different devices - different notes... At the end I export/merge them in one PDF file... Maybe with future updates Boox will solve my problem (I can live with it ;-) ... In the begining there was no notes landscape mode for Note Air (1)...
@airlinemac
@airlinemac Жыл бұрын
I’m yet to buy a boox device. Cannot make up my mind though which one to get
@moony2703
@moony2703 9 ай бұрын
Issue & Solution: I'd turned off Onyx cloud sync then couldn't figure out how to turn it back on through the main settings. I was getting a 'Onyx cloud sync has been turned off. Please turn on the sync switch first.' error when I try to bulk sync my notes with the cloud button beside the search button but it didn't give me a link to the settings area I needed to correct this. Tried opening some notes and syncing them individually and they were also giving me the onyx sync turned off message. Solution: In the Notes area open the third icon, square with writing and a pen, then go through to a note with a little sync blocked icon, long press on the note, it'll open the General settings tab, click on the Sync tab, there will be a bit down the bottom with 'Onyx Sync (Manual Sync is not supported when it is turned off)' turn that back on and follow the prompts. There should also be a list of syncing options eg. Dropbox, Google Drive and Onyx for you to tick. I think I flicked the previously mentioned Onyx permission on first but if that doesn't work try those instead. It also has a Sync and Accounts button in the syncing tab, so if you want to sync the note or a shortcut link to the Accounts main settings to add another syncing option that's there as well.
@airestocky
@airestocky 6 ай бұрын
well, I still dont get why there is a "separate" scan mode? is it really only there to manage the sync feature? or does the scan mode doing something more? e. g. scanning many other physical locations to have a common view to all of them?
@AndreAAnokhin
@AndreAAnokhin 4 ай бұрын
Wow! That's nuts! I just have 1 device and just want to have a back up in Google Drive. I managed to do the sync with the cloud, but the file is not in the cloud, only info about the notes and annotations. I have resolved the issue throuhg a third party FolderSync, that does a good job syncing both the files and PDF notes, but when I work with DJVU this is not working. The notes stay in the NeoReader only. Do you know how to embed annotations in DJVU (and add highlights in EPUB) so that during sync this would stay in the file? NeoReader seems to add things to PDF only and as for other formats it keeps the data separate.
@johnmanley4528
@johnmanley4528 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this explanation Voja. Love your MDO product. Could you consider explaining how Boox cloud storage works? As an example, my free storage shot up recently from 1GB to over 4GB out of my allotted 5GB. I have no idea why. When I look online, it says I have over 3GB in ‘other storage’. I have asked Boox how I can access this ‘other storage’ area in case I wanted to delete some of those files. I have asked them at least 10 times to explain it and they cannot seem to communicate that.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am not aure tbh what Other Storage is, so I'll have to take a look at it and once that is clarified, I'll be sure to make a video that addresses this matter.
@johnmanley4528
@johnmanley4528 Жыл бұрын
@@MyDeepGuide Much appreciated, Voja! Boox has ‘kindly’ offered to delete what is in that folder, but I don’t know what’s in it? They have also hinted that they are going to increase everyone’s free storage, but that still does not answer my question. Their customer service skills leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion.
@JS-mq6ve
@JS-mq6ve 5 ай бұрын
Is there an ability for apps on Boox to function the same way they would on other Android devices (like my phone)? Ex. using Google docs on my phone, I can see automated, live time updates on a different device (and so can my friend if it's a shared doc).
@brucebailey1371
@brucebailey1371 Жыл бұрын
For some reason I thought MDO had to be synced through the Google Drive Autosync app. I modified the set up to mirror yours (not in the Drive Sync), but I do have a question of why MDO does not sync via Google Drive like other files.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
Because the handwritten annotations are kept as a separate, to the user and apps, invisible file which cannot be synchronized via 3rd party apps. So, the only way to synchronize MDO (without exporting it) is via the Boox Library synchronization service, as shown in the video.
@cjolyvet
@cjolyvet Жыл бұрын
Thank you Voja. Have a good day. Is there a difference between the US and European servers? I live in the UK.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
Basically just reliability and speed. I am in Norway, but find the US servers to be faster than the EU servers.
@wheatdevon
@wheatdevon Жыл бұрын
​@@MyDeepGuidecan I have techs 500 miles away from me and sync MDO on my tablet to their tablet or do they have to be on the same wifi network? I am assuming I can synchronize nation wide ie USA?
@sbaugh
@sbaugh 11 ай бұрын
Can you set up auto-sync so you dont have to hit the sync button each and every time? Thanks for this video! Super helpful.
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide 11 ай бұрын
Not to my knowledge, nor would you want to do that, as that could lead to all sorts of problems, and dramatically shorter battery life.
@sbaugh
@sbaugh 11 ай бұрын
Gotcha - so I just need to get in the habit of hitting that little button. No biggie! Thanks!@@MyDeepGuide
@moony2703
@moony2703 9 ай бұрын
Issue & Solution: Annotations being erased during sync. Realised I was syncing the wrong way round. Needed to sync the file I was _editing_ not to file I wanted the edits to appear on.
@airestocky
@airestocky 2 ай бұрын
does this work also, when the physical file storage location is on a 3rd party cloud, e. g. Google Drive?
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide 2 ай бұрын
No.
@n4thb4dc0
@n4thb4dc0 Жыл бұрын
Boox make great devices and they have great potential but they over complicate things, why the need for separate modes that do the same thing, just one will do, I'll stick to using Google drive, it only requires an email address to work
@kurtb369
@kurtb369 Жыл бұрын
so basically Onyx ( .... China ) takes a complete blue-print snapshot of your full directory .... goodbye privacy ? no company with strict IT policy will allow this type of cloud-syncing
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
Nope, this is why the directory path is important. What it does it simply copies the .notes file that contains the handwritten annotations data and pastes it into the same location on another device. The .notes file references a specific document file (this is why the file name is important) and it has to be located in the same path where the referenced document lies. When opening the document, it checks for adequate .notes file, and if it finds it, it will display the annotations. The server and the synchronization service has absolutely no idea of what or where your documents are, only where to copy which .notes files.
@kurtb369
@kurtb369 Жыл бұрын
@@MyDeepGuide thanks for your swift feedback ! but .... if the path is known, surely it is working with the directory, not ?
@MyDeepGuide
@MyDeepGuide Жыл бұрын
No, the server has no awareness of your local device, it just stores the file. The device is the one that calls up a request to compare the size of the local .notes file against the one stored on the server, and if there are changes between the two, it synchronizes. Synchronization is again the device uploading the file to the server, or downloading it from the server and storing it into the appropriate directory. Directory path info is probably contained in some form of a meta file, that is normally used for version control of files on a server. So the server is there just to store the file and information needed about the file, so that the local devices can know what to do with it and that they have easy access to it.
@CaptZenPetabyte
@CaptZenPetabyte Жыл бұрын
Its a shame you have to go through onyx cloud & lose control there
@tobefree3718
@tobefree3718 Жыл бұрын
Forget it…,, far too complicated. Two weeks later you’ll have completely forgotten how it needs to work.
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