Bordeaux Wine Basics: First Growth Wines

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 Trophy Wine Hunter

Trophy Wine Hunter

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There are currently 5 First Growth Wines. I said since there was only 5 First Growths, it would be short video but I ended up going on for 25 minutes!
Chateau Lafite - in 1855 when the classification was done, it was called Chateau Lafite and owned by the De Segur family. It was purchased in 1868 by James Rothschild who changed the name of the winery to Chateau Lafite Rothschild. The 5 arrows on the bottle represent the 5 sons of Amschel Rothschild
Chateau Latour - which at one time had the same owner as Lafite and Calon Segur
Chateau Margaux - which at one time had the same owner as Haut Brion. Margaux is the only growth wine that is named after the region it comes from. Lafite, Latour , Margaux and 2 other wineres (D'Issan & Beychevelle) were the only "chateaus" in the 1855 classification system
Haut Brion - one of the oldest wineries. Wines have produced at this vineyard since 1521. Originally, the estate was named Aubrion and was part of the dowry given when the Mayor of Libourne's daughter got married. One of the reasons for its popularity prior to 1855 is that the owner of the estate had opened up a tavern in England to sell these wines, which gave it great notoriety. It is the only winery outside of the Haut Medoc/Medoc region to be included as a growth wine. Haut Brion has the most merlot in its blend of all the First Growths
Mouton Rothschild - in 1855, it was the top wine in the 2nd growth level. It was purchased in 1720 by Joseph de Brane who names it Brane Mouton. Then it was purchased by Nathanial Rothschild in 1853, who change the name of the winery to Mouton Rothschild. Through years of hard work and lobbying by Baron Phillippe de Rothschild, Mouton was elevated to first growth status in 1973. It is the only time a wine has been elevated

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@isobrontchoa5111
@isobrontchoa5111 Жыл бұрын
I just started getting to know wines from zero. And out of all the videos, urs is the best. Very informative and without treating viewer as a “dummy” yet easy enough to understand. U curate the information very well and your voice and face is so soothing.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
isobront: thank you so much for viewing my video and your kind comment. It is really gratifying that you enjoy my videos. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@grigorhaig
@grigorhaig 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. What an amazing and extensive experience you have with the Premiers Grand Cru Classé en 1855! I’m learning a lot… Thank you!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
grigorhaig: thank you for your continued support and glad you are enjoying my videos. Please check out my video on the 2nd and 3rd growth wines. Cheers!
@breethewithme
@breethewithme 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
thx for your support
@ModularLanding
@ModularLanding 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous and informative video! I haven’t ever been able to try any of these, but I am starting to explore 2nd through 5 growths and it has been a great experience. I will need to make more friends so that like you I can try more of these wines!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Modular Landing: yes, well heeled and generous friends help but I find at every level, you find people who are generous and want to share their wines wine you. Look out for my other videos in this series for more affordable options. Cheers!
@Thesilverthunder777
@Thesilverthunder777 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your insight. thx.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for viewing my video and taking time to leave a comment. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@exploreearth6275
@exploreearth6275 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Well done
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Explore Earth: thanks so much for viewing my video and your kind comments!
@HimanshuJeetah
@HimanshuJeetah 2 жыл бұрын
Good selection .. Looking forward to opening a 2016 Chateau Margaux soon
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Himanshu: thanks for your continued support. 2016 is lovely vintage but you will probably waiting another 10 years for it to hit its drinking window. Cheers!
@philipmarais
@philipmarais 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. I am so happy I have found it. You have a really relatable way of discussing and delivering information about wine and your experience with the wine. Thanks for taking the time! I am not sure if you share your notes on the past wines anywhere for access/purchase? I would be very interested to see your notes on some of the wines, especially the second and third growth from your other videos.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Philip: thank you for viewing this video and your kind comments. I post my notes from the last year or so on Vivino under Trophy Wine Hunter so you can follow me there. Most of my notes are scattered in various booklets. I do have pretty extensive notes on the First Growths I drink but those are personal. However, if there is a particular wine/vintage you are interested, I can check my notes and happy to share them if I have any. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@philipmarais
@philipmarais 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter Excellent, thank you. I will follow you on vivino also. I am only just getting into the second growths and third growths, as some of these become available on auction for really decent prices from estate sales. I don't think my pallet is quite mature enough yet to appreciate the nuances of the first growths as you have articulated in your videos. I am still trying to build a framework to understand what I am experiencing. You video on second growths is also really good. I am re-watching it now.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipmarais try my other video on 4th growth wines also. I will be doing my tasting of Beychevelle (which viewers chose) and my video on the 5th growths in the next few months. Cheers!
@wyattalexander4041
@wyattalexander4041 2 жыл бұрын
This was really well done the stories to little facts are enjoyable and seeing how you personally identify with each Château and their vintages was great !
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Wyatt for your continued support and comments. A little boring since they are all so good. More interesting when I get to the other growths and explore their current state. Cheers!
@wyattalexander4041
@wyattalexander4041 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter haha can’t disagree with that looking forward to it !
@neilvance9907
@neilvance9907 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Mouton Rothschild I’ve been sitting on for years among others.Beautiful.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Neil: thank you for viewing my channel and your comment. The 2000 Mouton is sometimes written off by wine experts because of the special label but it actually a very good wine. Very soft and expressive. You can hold on to it for many more years but it is delicious now
@augustbromley5132
@augustbromley5132 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what happened to my live comments but I can now see you will be showing us your wine cellar, thanks!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Hey August: thanks for viewing. I think the live comments won't be kept as I don't livestream the videos, I only premiere them. I hope you are not disappointed with my wine cellar video but I tried to add some commentary that will be food for thought. Cheers!
@joeydecarlo2532
@joeydecarlo2532 10 ай бұрын
You must do well for yourself to be able to drink so many wines like these! Good for you. I hope to try a first growth one day in my life haha.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 10 ай бұрын
joey: I feel pretty blessed with my life and I have a lot of generous friends/clients who share their wines with me. Don't worry....it will happen for sure. Whether you buy it yourself or run into someone who serves it to you, it will happen. If you asked me 25 years ago when I started drinking whether I would have the opportunity to drink these wines on a fairly consistent basis I would have told you that you are crazy! Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@joeydecarlo2532
@joeydecarlo2532 10 ай бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter thank you for the thoughtful reply! I am subscribed, just stumbled on your channel a couple days ago and really enjoy the detail. Watching all the Bordeaux videos, great stuff. I've been slowly buying Bordeaux (and other wines) to collect and age. Now my only challenge is that it's so hard to find any Bordeaux that is already aged, unless it's marked way up, so I still haven't drank that much Bordeaux! I know the collecting will pay off at some point though.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 10 ай бұрын
@@joeydecarlo2532 I do recommend that at least for affordable stuff you do drink a bottle early so in 10 years when you drink it and like it, you will know what it tasted like when it was young. All the critics are doing the same thing...extrapolating based on their past experience of what the wine tasted like young. You can get older vintages at auction, especially in the US. I will probably do a video on how to buy at wine auctions in the future. Cheers!
@B.H90
@B.H90 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for sharing! Wondering how much the year 2000 vintage of mouton or Lafite cost back in that time?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Ben H: Thank you for your support and kind comment. I just checked (as I have the old catalogues from BC Liquor stores) and when they were released in 2002, it was $650 + tax a bottle either Lafite or Mouton. You would have easily doubled your money by now. Hindsight is so brutal! Please like, subscribe and keep watching! Cheers!
@B.H90
@B.H90 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter, the price was about USD 500 20 years ago? Well, only if we can turn the time around? ..LOL ! thanks again for sharing!
@marjbaillie9474
@marjbaillie9474 2 жыл бұрын
Was gifted a bottle of 1998 les forts de latour red Bordeaux... gifter said value was $1,200. That was a time ago. Has the value increased with time? Was this an accurate value?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
marj: thank you for viewing my video and your question. Somehow I missed this comment so I am only responding now. I would question the $1200 value of Les Forts de Latour..maybe $600 or $700 retail. Also a lot depends on the storage so I wouldn't get too caught up in the value and anything that is aged without correct storage and provenance has no market value. My advice is just open it and enjoy. Cheers!
@benoitribaille2777
@benoitribaille2777 Жыл бұрын
Pricewise, true that 1st growth wines are more expensive. Qualitywise, we can keep in minds that some second growth wines have already been awarded RP 98 to 100 points in some vintages(cos, pichon contesse, beaucaillou, lascase) so in some occasions we could expect top wine (comparable to first growth in blind tasting?) from second growth.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
benoit: just my personal opinion but I think there is quite a quality difference between 1st and 2nd growths. You can't tell by just one instance in time but you have to look at the body of work over 100 years. Really good test is take a vintage like 2011. Would the quality of the 2nd growths be close to the quality of the 1st growths? Also, look at the wines 30 years out. How much confidence woudl you have a 2nd growth is still drinking well compared to 1st growth. With wine, even though 2 wines are rated 98 points, they could be very different wines and would suit very different palates. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@saleen12
@saleen12 2 жыл бұрын
So when you get first growths are you paying 1k for each or are there tricks to get them at a reasonable price?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Cam: Thanks for viewing my video and your comments. I have lots of generous friends and I buy when I can find a good price and store. With inflation, you have to know that the prices of First Growths will only to continue to go up. So 1K now may seem expensive but in 10 years, it may not be that unreasonable. You can also buy at auction and also sometimes get a deal at silent auctions at fundraising galas.
@dormmma2619
@dormmma2619 2 жыл бұрын
Would you rather a good younger vintage or a older ok to bad vintage for now
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
dorm mma: thank you for viewing my video and your question. For drinking now, I would rather have a older OK to bad vintage. Reason is since around 2000, with modern innovation, there are no really "bad" vintages any more. If you go back older, even in a bad vintage, I would love to try older wines and the excitement outweighs any risk (assuming you could guarantee the storage of the bottle is good). For collecting/long term, I would take the good younger vintage. Thanks for the question....I can make this into a topic of an upcoming video...just talking about vintages and the important (or lack of importance) of certain factors in buying a wine. Please keep watching! Cheers!
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Chateau Labegorce Margaux? I'm looking for cheaper/more affordable bordeauxs.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Chris: thx for viewing my site. Labegorce is traditionally very well situated. However, it is has gone through a lot of ownership changes of much of its historically best vineyards have been purchased by Chateau Margaux. I like the upside of the Margaux region and this is a decent wine. In Margaux, I really like Marojallia. Also check out my video on Chateau de Villambis, a well priced Bourgeois level Bordeaux wine. See my video to be released September 25, which goes over some of the more affordable Bordeaux wines I recommend. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter Would you consider Chateau Giscours Margaux or Chateau Prieure Lichine good quality well priced wines?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisginoc Please see my video on Part 1 Bordeaux Release where I go through some of the growth wines. I like Giscours and I really like Marquis D'Alesme Becker if you can find it. Obscure but that is what makes it a good value. Prieure Lichine is better known and has its fans but hasn't done any new upgrades in the last decade to give any indication of an upswing in quality. My personal thoughts only. Cheers!
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter Found both the 2015 and 2016 Chateau Marquis D'Alesme online. Ordering now based on your recommendation. If you had to pick 2015 or 2016 which one would you recommend?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisginoc what price did you get them at? Both are great vintages. 2015 a bit stronger so if you want to drink earlier and like a lighter style of Bordeaux go with the 2016. If there is a big price difference go with the way cheaper one as there is not a lot of difference in quality of the 2 vintages. Cheers!
@robertmeyer1552
@robertmeyer1552 Жыл бұрын
Great video! What do you think the condition of a 1935 Chateau Margaux would be? I assume in decline. However it has been stored in a cedar box all its life and the label is in new condition. Just never know!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
Robert: nice to hear from you! I would open it...never know as label and box is superficial...need to know if it was stored in correct temperature. Only one way to find out! Cheers!
@robertmeyer1552
@robertmeyer1552 Жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter I'll keep you in the loop!! Thanks again :)
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
@@robertmeyer1552 cheers!
@tunwin5305
@tunwin5305 2 жыл бұрын
I drank Chateau Mouton 2000. Me and my friend finished it over dinner. It was delicious. I have 2009 and 2015 also. Why is vintage 2000 so expensive?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
tun win: the label..Gold embossed and etched. Just like 2018 or 2008 Lafite, it really plays with the Asian market. I agree there are better vintages of Mouton but 2000 is quite exceptional and then the etched label puts it over the top. The price of high end wines is determined by the auction market, not really the consumer market since all of it is sold out and much of it is never drank. So you have to look at it from a collector's perspective....if I am not drinking the wine, I just want to get the best looking bottle and it really doesn't matter what it tastes like, it will still have value. Bonus that 2000 was such a great vintage. Keep the bottle. You don't see many 2000s around and our fortunate (or crazy) to drink it. Cheers!
@tunwin5305
@tunwin5305 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter I already drank mine. I only have empty bottle left for display. I’m following you on Instagram now :)) cheers!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@tunwin5305 thanks for your support. Yes, wish I had bought more 2000 Mouton. After market now, it is crazy expensive! Cheers!
@DH-zd3de
@DH-zd3de 5 ай бұрын
The 5 arrows represents the 5 sons of Mayer Amschel . But u know this already. ❤
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 5 ай бұрын
DH: I thought it represented the 5 families so I guess we are talking about the same thing? Cheers!
@sanjaypatelmd4669
@sanjaypatelmd4669 2 жыл бұрын
We visited Four of the five first growth wineries….I had great experiences at 3/4 wineries…Chateau Margaux was the worst experience…..
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Sanjay: do tell...did you arrange yourself or through an agent? Private or with group? We were hosted and we were at Mouton, Lafite and Margaux. Margaux rolled out the red carpet, Mouton was great to us and we thought Lafite was most disappointing. We were with a group of big buyers and every other winery had a senior winemaker or management out to greet us. At Lafite we just got their normal tour and we were served just one wine (2004)..I know...first world problems. Looking forward to more info. Cheers!
@sanjaypatelmd4669
@sanjaypatelmd4669 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter I am a big buyer at bounty hunter red wine and spirits in Napa and their negotian friend arranged this for us…every chateau gave us red car[et treatment other then Chateau Margaux…they even refused to give us wine for second visit….I will never go back or never buy their wines
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjaypatelmd4669 wow...brutal.
@andrewleung9661
@andrewleung9661 2 жыл бұрын
How many vintages have you already drunken with me ?
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew:Thx for viewing my channel! Probably 90% with you, my friend! Hope you are keeping well and hope to benefit from many more years of your generosity! How you liking my format..much improved, right?
@joesimpson4655
@joesimpson4655 Жыл бұрын
would these first growth wines even win in a blind tasting with top wines from other regions in the world? i doubt it. its all hype and prices have only risen by speculators/investors because of the name and prestige.
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
Joe: thank you for watching my video and your comments. Respectfully, I would disagree. I think on a blind tasting of wines are their peak, the first growths would do pretty well. Investors are not misinformed so if it was just about money, prices for Lafite, Latour would not be consistent over 150 years. Price is based on demand, which is mostly based on quality. Perhaps this is not the stereotype but most high end investors and collectors take the tasting/quality of wines pretty seriously as we are not talking about preference but long term value. Normally, these people have extensive experience with tasting high end wines, multiple times and multiple vintages. Blind tastings are tricky as hard to be fair. For instance, you can't put a 2018 Lafite against any current Napa wine or even Australian wines as they drink softer in youth. Likewise, unfair to put a 1982 Lafite against Australian wine (other than Grange and perhaps Hills of Grace) as most Australian wines are not build to age for 30 years and beyond. So it does go down to personal preference but to think 1st growths are all hype and marketing would be, in my opinion, a huge exaggeration of the truth. I think any person with a bit of knowledge of wine can set up a blind tasting to favor the wine they want. While each person has their own view of what is wine is worth, I can tell you from personal experience that I really enjoy First Growth wines and they do age really well. Whether they are overpriced is really a matter of opinion and what you value. Sorry for being so long winded but I wanted to provide an alternate point of view based on my personal experience. Again, you could say I am bias as I do prefer Bordeaux and I do like Trophy Wines. Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
@joesimpson4655
@joesimpson4655 Жыл бұрын
@@TrophyWineHunter thank you for the thorough response I really appreciate your perspective and agree with all your points!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter Жыл бұрын
@@joesimpson4655 cheers...keep watching!
@brycecasper7896
@brycecasper7896 2 күн бұрын
Great video!
@TrophyWineHunter
@TrophyWineHunter 2 күн бұрын
thanks so much! Please like, subscribe and keep watching. Cheers!
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