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Borderlands Nisha Skill and Gear Guide

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Derchlands

Derchlands

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In this series I am going to be covering all the characters from Borderlands 2 and Borderlands The Pre Sequel going over skill trees and gear. I'll be talking about what works and doesn't work but more importantly why it does or does not work.
In this episode I am covering Nisha the Lawbringer.
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@slydoorkeeper4783
@slydoorkeeper4783 6 жыл бұрын
The rifle women tree is a reference to the show the rifle man, he basically was a marksman that didn't use his sights. He would hip fire and that was kinda the idea of the tree, to hip fire.
@desmondwade5839
@desmondwade5839 3 жыл бұрын
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@frankmajor7152 3 жыл бұрын
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@jadielkyle6077
@jadielkyle6077 3 жыл бұрын
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@arthurjimmy9388
@arthurjimmy9388 3 жыл бұрын
@Desmond Wade Glad I could help :)
@slydoorkeeper4783
@slydoorkeeper4783 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking bots.
@bugfriendz
@bugfriendz 7 жыл бұрын
Derch, you can master quickflicking with Nisha by quickly tapping the aim button, flicking R and releasing as fast as you can-- you gain so much more control with it.
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
Good pointer
@bugfriendz
@bugfriendz 7 жыл бұрын
Once you master this with something like the Flayer, I was able to flick between enemies and two-fang badasses.
@sirpendergast1575
@sirpendergast1575 7 жыл бұрын
+Derch hey uh... derch. you were having issues at 1:07:00 because you weren't speced in lmao
@sirpendergast1575
@sirpendergast1575 7 жыл бұрын
+Sir Pendergast ah if course you noticed after I said something, still funny as hell
@OccasionalGoof
@OccasionalGoof 7 жыл бұрын
Some random things I'd like to add for anyone interested in Nisha stuff: High Noon, the skill that progressively boosts gun damage the longer you're in showdown, does affect launcher and sniper damage, so the drawback of the inherent 42% damage bonus from Showdown not applying to those can get quickly dwarfed in the later half of showdown (or beyond of course if the duration is extended enough) and makes them get seriously buffed for damage in Showdown too. I actually think Absolute Zero is one of the best guns for Nisha. Beam weapons in general are of course great for her, but Absolute Zero's qualities all synergize very well with her. It has a low capacity offset by high damage, so it's more ammo efficient which is a godsend for her, and the low capacity is easily taken advantage of by Quick Shot, and her reload speed boosts help offset it. It's always cryo, and that's a good element to have for a general damage weapon and since frozen enemies take increased explosive damage and increased critical hit damage, it has synergy with Short Fused, The Unforgiven and Tombstone. I also think Laser Disker is another great gun for her since it's so extremely ammo efficient without sacrificing usability or power. It is like a mini-launcher using laser's enormous ammo pool. It does immense damage to frozen enemies and also insane damage when thrown. So, what this leads to is the following combo: Absolute Zero an enemy frozen and reload it, switch to Laser Disker, fire once (buffed by Crack Shot and Quick Shot due to the reload as well), then chuck it. The burst damage has saved me very suddenly out of many FFYL scenarios. I've even abruptly killed lesser bosses like Red/Belly that started at full health in the combo with this in UVHM. I'll also echo the perspective that you want high max health for tough bosses and a turtle shield for mobbing. A high shield capacity coupled with 10 order stacks recharging it and Bottled Courage is more than enough to generally keep you alive when mobbing and the very low health means high acceleration for order stacks which are desired more for the offense boosts when mobbing, and in a fight like Eclipse, you're going to get order stacks very rapidly even with a huge health pool when hit and the fight will last a long time so you don't need to sacrifice surviveability for acceleration, though thanks to Bottled Courage and a Celestial Lawbringer COM it's not like a turtle shield in a boss fight like that can't work plenty well too. Weird little thing: The explosion from The Unforgiven has surprising stagger potential. It actually staggers Eclipse, even out of attacks. I think overall Hyperion pistols work very well with her too, for basically the same reason SMGs do. Between the two I think I'd prefer SMGs just for the ammo pool but going through with her I got a lot of use out of them once I took One For Each Of Ya before finding my first Luck Cannon.
@Haunted01
@Haunted01 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guy from 4 years ago. You just gave me an idea
@virgilmcmath6363
@virgilmcmath6363 7 жыл бұрын
I think that her riflewoman tree is a reference to a show that nobody who plays this game would know about
@Haunted01
@Haunted01 3 жыл бұрын
The rifle man
@sharkexpert12
@sharkexpert12 7 жыл бұрын
that recycled Maya animation tho.
@KauluMaisas
@KauluMaisas 7 жыл бұрын
Instead of whip, she could use lasso for some kind of crowd control.
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
About the "guns that you didn't bring up" part: Splitters! Tediore and Maliwan splitters are just about the best thing on Nisha, for both bosses and mobbing They are slow (so they benefit from all those fire rate bonuses easily), have a big ammo pool, can come with glitches, come in all elements, don't really have parts to farm, Trick shot takes care of their accuracy shortcomings and best of all, they deal a TON of damage :)
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
Chuck80 imma farm a maliwan splitter and see just how good they are with her. I always found any non-beam maliwan to be absolutely inferior.
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
I Kill Eclipse and Eos in about 3 minutes with them, they are absolutely awesome. Also, look at this: forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/build-pew-pew-motherf-r/947
@blpitts11
@blpitts11 7 жыл бұрын
DeputyChuck is the fragnum very good on nisha?
@C1kaZma
@C1kaZma 7 жыл бұрын
i really have to agree with your dislike of melee skills, especially if the character has an action skill focused on using guns. why would i want to melee while using showdown ? there is no reason for it and it doesnt synergize with any other skill tree unlike krieg and zero i really really hope they cut this shit and just make a melee focused tree or dont give a character melee skills at all
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
she doesn't have a 'melee while in showdown' skill, really
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
Last one, I swear: The Sheriff COM is much better than given credit for. To me, it's the best general purpose non-legendary COM. As opposed to the crapshooter, it works when you have no kill skill active, as opposed to the CoE and Desperado, you're not limited in your gun selection, and that flat gun damage boost is exactly what Nisha needs. Plus, outside of Unchained (one of her best skills) all the other buffs are defensive (great for the glass canon she is) More health, more shield (from the boost to Law) health regen (from bona fide grit) ... all great things. She even gets nearly as much crit bonus as the crapshooter (from the boost to BFG) It doesn't have the wildly absurd damage potential the Crapshooter enjoys, but it doesn't need to have the perfect conditions that the Crapshooter needs to work its magic. In short, it might not have a solid theme going on, but it fixes almost all of Nisha's flaws and provides about 9/10th of the DPS potential the Crapshooter offers...without being a total glass canon reliant on kill skills.
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 7 жыл бұрын
Lawful Sheriff is a great COM imo. I really like boosting Law as high as possible for the massive shield capacity, and she has some nice shield kills as you know. My main complaint about the Sheriff is you don't want this one for Jacobs builds because Unchained does nothing for Jacobs. If it boosted her two fang instead, it'd be good for most build types. Also, of course, the name of the com is cool. One of the coolest names for a class mod in Borderlands.
@rdu239
@rdu239 5 жыл бұрын
I love Nisha, showdown's weakness is its not that good when enemies are right on your face, same as when there is something blocking between you and the enemy the zoom can get really messed up. You have to establish a distance between you and enemies. I think she is the fastest mob cleaner compared to the rest
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 7 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with fan the hammer and riflewoman is that they're designed for Jakobs revolvers/shotguns to fit in with the cowgirl theme, but it doesn't explicitly tell you that. like you said most of the ammo skills are only worth it for Jakobs type guns, fire rate as well.
@maximus451
@maximus451 7 жыл бұрын
Just got back from work and ready to relax and saw this was uploaded. What a sweet treat!
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
Just to add a bit more on the Unchained bug with pure-splash guns: The skill seems to react weirdly and will give out more stacks of unchained than it shoots pellets. I once got all 21 stacks in a single shot from the Boomacorn, and I generally get about 10 stacks at once from it (even though it shoots only 5 mini-rockets) So I don't really know what's at work here, but it's much more effective than it should be even with the explanation I gave you. What I know is that I shoot the boomacorn once and then switch to my splitters and everything dies at once :P
@Soupisflannel
@Soupisflannel Жыл бұрын
As a nisha main I love how you are not the biggest fan of nisha but you still made a great video talking about her skill trees and gear
@larrisAWSOME
@larrisAWSOME 3 жыл бұрын
while I do appreciate these videos, I always go back to them when I'm unsure about a new build.... dear fucking lord do you need to put timestamps on these
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 3 жыл бұрын
How to fix Nicha: Remove auto lock from Showdown ability and make it a cap stone for a tree, or just middle cap stone, for those who like auto aiming. Instead of auto aiming, Showdown should come with marking critical hit spots.
@matthewfera2954
@matthewfera2954 3 жыл бұрын
I would be fine with Showdown just giving guns insane accuracy and recoil reduction. Basically being able to hip fire on the dot repeatedly is essentially the same as being able to land every hit, but based on your skill level. More fun that way.
@nathanielgarza9198
@nathanielgarza9198 2 жыл бұрын
How about it makes crit spots glow red and make enemies move in slow motion Like deadeye
@EmpyreanRose
@EmpyreanRose Жыл бұрын
​@@nathanielgarza9198 How would that affect co-op play?
@nathanielgarza9198
@nathanielgarza9198 Жыл бұрын
@@EmpyreanRose enemies move slow nothing else does
@DrippyBleedEm
@DrippyBleedEm 7 жыл бұрын
I love how much effort you put in your videos
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Angelo Beaupit this was only one take
@DrippyBleedEm
@DrippyBleedEm 7 жыл бұрын
OK but most people would just talk about the skills in minor detail but you go deeper than that
@DrippyBleedEm
@DrippyBleedEm 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't mean to put capitals
@Hail_Fall
@Hail_Fall 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with the idea of making tombstone only work on bullets. I'd actually say it should be the opposite. Having it only make things like dots, grenades, melee, and launchers crit would make it much more unique and cool. I really think Nisha's action skill can be fun, it's just overpowered. You shouldn't be able to have it up more than 25% of the time. If it was on a cooldown more like 30-40 seconds, I think people's complaints that it takes away too much of the player's agency would be fixed.
@danielcox3983
@danielcox3983 4 жыл бұрын
Nisha is just pretty great for a DPS build. I'm messing with a tank-DOT build for Athena but Nisha is great for killing shear amounts of enemies if you don't care about how much ammo you eat through.
@PhyrexianGrace
@PhyrexianGrace 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, plunkett, my favorite jakobs shotgun
@sirbunnyoflongdark6034
@sirbunnyoflongdark6034 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, your guide series is becoming a must watch for me!
@maniek11374265
@maniek11374265 7 жыл бұрын
i can't wait for mah man Wilhelm
@gellasztomania1643
@gellasztomania1643 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid Derch, I was looking forward this (if you remember my previous comments on your Axton vid regarding "lazy game design") because I'd like to see your points, and I think that I was too harsh with my criticism. Maybe I was harsh because the TPS for me was a mixed bag. Maybe I was harsh because I don't like her action skill, but again, diversity is the key, that makes Borderlands interesting if you strip away everything else. (That, and maybe Claptrap.) It is all personal preference, so...yeah. I won't play her in the near future, but being so judgemental was a bad thing from me. Anyway, keep it up man, love your channel ;)
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, rather than a sal/gaige seeming character, i tend to think of her more like tediore axton, minus the chucking/grenade damages you're going through your ammo pool far more quickly than some other characters/builds, so rather than worrying about being a one gun specialist (outside of dual pistols/luck cannon stuff) it's better to rock multiple weapons and not be too pinned down to one or two, swap between them more while mobbing, and almost treat bosses like you've got one 'total mag of that gun type' clip, and just dump ammo as fast as you can. you'd also maybe want to get a little closer, so her massive fire rate can land hits a little more efficiently (and that's mitigating the somewhat more incoming damage with her order skill working on getting hit anyway) like, i like jacobs pistols and shotguns, sure, favoring the maggie and boomacorn, but then there's also stuff like lasers, any of them really, the railgun specifically as it can act like a sniper/rocket launcher damage wise, with greater ammo pool as well as splitters normally being too inaccurate for me to normally like, but with her reflect, doesn't matter as much, but still getting that showdown damage bonus, and some niche weapons like the mentioned hammerbuster with it's penetration getting a little more use out of it, and even some stuff that's just all around great but might not be as boosted by her skillset as much like the cheat code but, rather than maining 1-2 weapons, to swap around, better to swap between all 4 when possible, and maybe having some backups in the bag in case some stuff gets too low - pistols and shotguns might get more synergy, but say, smg, ar, lasers will round out that ammo trouble kinda nicely - kinda wish she got a skill that made ammo pickups and capacity higher or something. plus the laser boosting shield + eddie oz kit can help give her some of that damage she's missing out with magnificent six/hot lead, if you're not using something more specific.
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
You don't get up to max stacks for unchained or order that often when mobbing but you don't really need to. Where they come in handy is bosses and rapid spawn areas.
@IGSA101
@IGSA101 2 жыл бұрын
The real problem with no pain no gain is, well, look at the tree it's in. It's a tier five skill in a tree focused on healing based on being low health. You have to be doing something wrong to get any benefit out of it.
@biofriik
@biofriik 7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your assessions about Nisha's melee skills. I think they nailed the hybrid aspect of it and it was quite refreshing to play with her melee builds. The melee damage bonus with Thunder Crackdown is really high with a boosted Third Degree and max Order stacks. Pair that with a roid shield and you'll be one-shotting (or maybe one-hitting since we are talking about melee) most enemies. Great for activating kill skills. The increased range of Thunder Crackdown is also extremely handy for getting out of FFYL since roid shields are depleted during that state. Even if you don't want to mess with roid shields, Thunder Crackdown is still handy for eliminating enemy's shields because it deals shock damage. I really love Nisha's left hand skill tree and I honestly think it's the only one they designed right because it doesn't leave you with ammo issues.
@biofriik
@biofriik 7 жыл бұрын
Also, you left out her shittiest COM, the Delusional Illusion.
@alencifps1535
@alencifps1535 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro, pretty much no reason not to get Thundercrack with Due Process, Nisha really is a melee hybrid done perfectly, 25% x 30 is insane free DPS, and Due Process is great while Thundercrack is on CD, and Thundercrack and Due Process are great for reload cancel in conjunction with her reload skills
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
@@alencifps1535 lol, no reason? hell, stop at one point in tier 4 for blood of the guilty, put those points into the other two skill trees, like 5/5 for both tombstone and trickshot i mean, sure, IF you're doing a nisha specialist, it'd be fine, but it's not really that great outside of one, she doesn't synergize well with melee and gunplay like some other characters do - hell, athena rocking cryo guns and jumping at foes has a better melee and guns potential than nisha does. she can do 'great' damage potentially, sure, but it's still not the best idea for her.
@KaelanSwan
@KaelanSwan 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Derch! almost 2 hours long btu i made it had to as a Nisha main and all.
@giantdouche7642
@giantdouche7642 7 жыл бұрын
God damnit, I love the background music. Reminds me of movies like ''Il mio nome è Nessuno''. Loved those as a child.
@aiabby8007
@aiabby8007 7 жыл бұрын
@Derch if you go to the very top of Concordia, where you go to help Moxxi jam the security systems on the Hyperion station, there are plenty of big blank white walls to test fire on. Though at this point that info may never be useful xD
@MrCrazyGuy-yy4lg
@MrCrazyGuy-yy4lg 7 жыл бұрын
2 Hours of Derch goodness :p
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
It's only an hour 40 this time lol
@kvetoslavzeleny1764
@kvetoslavzeleny1764 7 жыл бұрын
This gonna be long one. Sorry in advance. Showdown also has 50% swap speed in case somebody likes passive damage transfare. Like with flakker, but showdown bullet speed bonus kills flakkers accuracy, so Torgue Durp is better like this than Nukem. Skill trees: Law&Order - just doesn't work with the melee at all. You need to spent skill points to Law and Order to go further down, these two are great skills, but Law kills Roid shields pretty much. Only usefull skills are these ones which increase maximal number of Order stacks. The best one must be Rough Rider, becouse you can get Order stacks even from interactable objects (Barrels, piles, hyperion ammo boxes etc.). And ofcourse Rarin' to go is cool too. Fan the hammer - It's actualy more focused on Action skills and Kills skills(has great synergy with showdown ofcourse) than raw pistol damage. Sure the name of this tree isn't accurate. Even as it looks like that this tree is focused on Jakobs, it's not true. Only Six shots is kinda Jakobs skill. There are few two skills synergies here: Saddle up with Short fuse (Short fuses big plus is that it costs only one skill point), Ruthless with High noon obviously, Faster 'n you with Hell's comin' with me. Also bottled Courage with Law, specialy with Shield of ages. Only pickpocket and Gunslinger isn't need here. The biggest skills are Ofcourse One for each fo ya and Hell's comin' with me. With these two and other fire rate boosts, you don't need matching grips, actualy it's stupid to play with High fire rate guns specialy if invest to Riflewoman tree. With pistols it seems that Jakobs grips for everything works mostly, also lesser in mag ups DPS with HCWM(hell's comin' with me) and Two same pistol is 100% fire rate anyway. Riflewoman - Snap shot and Quickshot works with OFEOY(One for each of ya) and all hyperion guns ofcourse. Unchained is super friend with HCWM it makes every slow gun great, specialy Hyperion Railguns, Omni cannon and Cat o' Ninetails. Bona Fide Grid is just too good for tier one skill even it's kills skill, you know Showdown. Crack shot is super solid on it's self also it has some weird things that I will discuss latter*. Impatience is good skill, but it's full potencial is lost to other skills that focus on low mag high reload speed gun, it feels like that this think is here just for Bandit and Vladof guns, but I must admit that this one loves Unchained. Hot Lead is super cool and pwerfull, but it has downsides, Nisha isn't focused on Jakobs and you don't have atmosphere sometimes, but if you do get Oxidizer Oz kit with this. Trickshot, Tombstone and Unforgiven no words needed. *Crackshot does Moneyshot sound if you get loop glitch effect and don't consume 1st bullet. One little glitch/feature idk you decide. If you have proletorian revolution and don't fire 1st shot and let Crackshot activates and deactivates endlessly, killing enemy with other source for example with grenade will trigger it's explosion. It works with Quasar as I found. For weapons that I likes are these: Pistol: If use OFEOY - Practicaly every Jakobs, Hyperion and Vladof pistols. Maliwan kills it with high ammo cost, Dahl has need to ADS. Torgue works, but only in showdown, couse it's slow bullets. Bandit kinda too, but too big mags don't work with lot skills. Tediore lacks recoil reduction and power, expect Shooterang which can trigger Hot lead with it's red text effect combined with tombstone. Smgs: I''ll go with Torrent, Fastalker (for overkill) and weirdly enough Boxxy. Rifles: I'll add Major Tom for synergy with trickshot and Dahl Minigun for unlisted pellets while ADS, you can fire up 18 bullet with one trigger pull with HCWM. Shotguns: Totaly moonface and sometimes Party line too. Sniper rifles: N/A These that you showed are only that works without burning ammo, refering to Machine. Rocket launchers: Well, every works with her, but Kaneda's Laser wreckes the most. Lasers: Every Dahl laser loves Unforgiven, Excalibastard freezes like 99% with tombstone. Cat o' ninetails loves tombstone, trickshot and all of these Fire rate boosts (It's like rave party). Every Maliwan laser get it's highest damage in seconds. Actualy every manufacture Railgun is good with Riflewoman tree. I agree that Nisha isn't consistand and I still likes Athena the most. Anyway after I've made Luck cannon based build focused on HCWM I find that Cowgirl class mod is too much Glass cannon and I switched to Eridian Vanquisher just for some shield defence. I found myself playing with this build more often then Athena. Mainly becouse this build can make even crap like moonscaper fun to play. Enemies were launched off the map.
@jciarkowski3109
@jciarkowski3109 7 жыл бұрын
Květoslav Zelený when you said it was gonna be long you really weren't joking
@ignition1092
@ignition1092 7 жыл бұрын
IIRC Physx messes with the Laser Disker's projectile model for some reason. That's probably why you were shooting giant balls of lightning everywhere.
@boxobanter3278
@boxobanter3278 Жыл бұрын
I think a cool melee override for Nisha would be if you could grapple someone with the whip, or lasso them. I'm not sure what you would do once you had the enemy tied down but maybe it could boost your defence or split damage taken between you and the target or maybe you could throw them with explosive damage. I don't know, could have been cool.
@enabler118
@enabler118 7 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the E-GUN
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 4 жыл бұрын
little late, but as it does come with a sort of hidden element, wouldn't work as a 'non elemental laser' though tbh i like the luck cannon and the boomacorn on her because those are nonelemental weapons with elemental projectiles
@alikhavari4250
@alikhavari4250 7 жыл бұрын
I think some melee skills on non melee characters is fine, they do have a melee attack after all and coming up with a way to use it is nice Aurelias is ok i think
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
similarly to that, he knocks maya's melee override, but it's not bad, actually - doesn't require to be close and is basically used as an alternate slag source, rather than melee damage potential similarly, it's not exactly a great idea, but gaige actually has some melee potential with hers, the only real problem with it is the same as her gun builds - sorta needs prestacking anarchy to get her 'flow' going. it'd also mean you can just use a good roid shield with deathtrap without shield swapping, and maining the grog to slag foes as you get close and get even more health back while doing melee than the capstone can do, the legendary roboteer (and it's other version) are pretty good for this idea
@BulldogPCs
@BulldogPCs Жыл бұрын
@@leeman27534 I think he's actually referring to Mind's Eye and Backdraft, since the former boosts melee damage while the latter makes your melee attacks incendiary. Sure, they do other stuff too, but the point is they give melee buffs on a character who can't utilize them too well. He did say Salvador's uppercut is good because knockback so, unless he said it in a different video, I have a feeling he doesn't mean Scorn since it provides easy slagging on a character without much weapon switch speed, since having that would make slagging things faster.
@Derchlands
@Derchlands Жыл бұрын
Yup, exactly give them enough melee skills to make them a viable melee character, or give them one with a utility that is helpful.
@alikhavari4250
@alikhavari4250 Жыл бұрын
@@Derchlands where u been man? Thought you hung up the cape
@Derchlands
@Derchlands Жыл бұрын
@@alikhavari4250 maybe the cape but never the cowl
@crazyd8700
@crazyd8700 7 жыл бұрын
I loved using Nisha. I agree - she has a problem with ammo consumption. I generally used Hyperion, Maliwan, and Torgue pistols as her. I was looking for Torgue and Jakobs parts for her because they give good damage bonuses, but decrease your fire rate. That also helped me to mitigate some of the fire rate issues. I stayed clear of Vladof pistols because they chewed through bullets way too fast. I didn't want to use a lot of Jakobs pistols (unless they were unique or legendary) because I didn't want to feel like I was murdering my mouse to use them.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
then use a console controller. I am sure you can hook one up to your computer
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+highnoon1987 use the steam controller
@crazyd8700
@crazyd8700 7 жыл бұрын
highnoon1987 I used to use controllers, but that was a long time ago. Keyboard and mouse just feels better to use, IMO. Everyone has their preferences though.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
Burning Sharknado same. usually i prefer mouse and keyboard, but when using jakobs weapons i like controller better. that way i dont kill my mouse
@pflynn12
@pflynn12 10 ай бұрын
I'm currently struggling with Deadlift (2nd boss) UVHM, any Deadlift guide I watch involves a level 70 build so assuming maxing out your build is best
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 10 ай бұрын
Have shock and be aggressive if you try to fight him from the far you usually lose. He doesn't actually have much health.
@ronchum5178
@ronchum5178 2 жыл бұрын
Nisha's action skill is kind of cheap, but I really like it, especially on console.
@corn1676
@corn1676 2 жыл бұрын
Aimbot on console fps games are like bread and butter
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like Claptrap kinda does what Nisha does (kill things really fast) better than she does, because Clap has a lot of synergy with different kinds of weapons. Nisha's main synergy is with non-elemental guns with a low mag count, or else a Vibra-Pulse/continuous beam weapon. Clap can use whatever you find and especially any elemental weapons you pick up (CC, OLT and ML). And Clap's tank tree is amazing and really keeps him able to fight up close. Even Clap's randomness only really applies to his action, and depending how you build him, the packages tend to be overall helpful (usually minion, which means aggro reduction and passive dps). I like Nisha's play style and I really like her design as a character, but she feels like an extreme glass cannon. Even Zero has aggro reduction via Deception. Nisha can still be downed in Showdown. I guess maybe I just suck with her, but I'm doing TVHM now and getting bodied by everything. Sure, I'm under level, but I was way, way under level with Clap in TVHM and plowed through all the things. I was wrecking bosses 5 or more levels above me. Those super-badasses against Nisha? They rip her to shreds.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraiGoomba .......clap doesn't have a tank tree
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 7 жыл бұрын
I Love You Guys is his survival/tanking tree. That + Defensive Subroutines make him very good at staying alive.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraiGoomba ILYG wasn't meant to be a tanking/defensive tree. it's meant as a team support/co-op tree. why do you think so many skills revolve around team play?(ML healing allies, BB4L working on ressing a player or being ressed by a player, etc etc)
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 7 жыл бұрын
"Wasn't meant to be" says who? The Borderlands team have been designing skill trees primarily around solo play for ages, and continue to. Even Aurelia's dedicated coop tree has a bunch of really sweet solo skills in it. Claptrap's ILYG tree works perfectly well for solo, and its role in solo play is as his survival/tanking tree, combined with Defensive Subroutines.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraiGoomba but wouldn't you think a tanking tree would focus on self defensive buffs, instead of team wide buffs? guess I've been playing too many MMOs
@InkWavve
@InkWavve 5 жыл бұрын
Hot Lead is such an underrated skill. Everyone's like "fire damage sucks in this game." Well, just try using it first. It's been a game changer for me. I've lost count of the times I thought I'd failed FFYL only for some random mook I didn't even know was there to die from the DoT. The damage is significant too because that 25% is likely to scale off of Jakobs guns. Is it as broken as Tombstone, etc? No, but it's still a very solid investment of 5 points that a lot of other classes would love to have.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 5 жыл бұрын
eh i can see athena maybe wanting it for more maelstrom stacking, and being able to get a shock DOT and fire DOT off a crit with a shock weapon potentially, or maybe wilhelm just cause he kinda needs more damage, but i don't think it's that great. though, given they can stack, as well as tombstone giving possible crit hits regardless, reflecting bullets, and its based on guns that're gonna have bigger than standard damage because they lack an element, it is fairly impressive. especially since most foes in TPS are flesh, instead of armor like at least half of 2 was. though, sad you can't get the DOT without atmo, that's about the only thing that hampers fire being a better element. but hey, better than corrosive in this game, outside of the claptrap dlc!
@DemoniteBL
@DemoniteBL Жыл бұрын
The lack of burn DoTs is miniscule, Hot Lead is very powerful.
@SuddenDeathMode
@SuddenDeathMode 7 жыл бұрын
Action skill card is missing one thing and that is the swap speed boost, I feel like it is extra 60-80%. The fact that Tombstone gives extra procs of Hot Lead made my mind blown because I've seen weird instances where Nisha's kill skills became permanent and that meant she had 100% crit chance after killing something...makes me wonder what would hot lead do in this scenario :D Tombstone is great. It makes Nisha crit herself with own grenades, barrels. You can even crit your own OXYGEN SUPPLY if you have a grenade that shatters air masks.
@OccasionalGoof
@OccasionalGoof 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen frozen airborne enemies take critical fall damage thanks to Tombstone. In a weird way I feel like it might be the strongest skill in the series, because it wields a power beyond comprehension, clearly. The power to make someone suffocating sustain a critical hit from dying of lack of oxygen, or a critical fall damage...how absurd.
@SuddenDeathMode
@SuddenDeathMode 7 жыл бұрын
Most kinds of crit damage you do can trigger Hot Lead if you hold a non-elemental gun. Even Hot Lead can crit and therefore trigger itself creating a chain of burns.
@bellystraw
@bellystraw 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Derch, I'm wondering if you've ever considered remaking the skill and gear overview for the characters you're not familiar with while accompanied by someone who has deep knowledge of the character? Hope this doesn't come off as douchy but I feel like this episode in particular could've used someone who mains Nisha to explain and dive into her skills since you're not well versed with her and you don't seem to like playing as her that much. Again, hope this only comes off as constructive criticism since your other guides have been very helpful to me
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
he's don this efore, but he also has decent research into most characters, but he's no longer a youtuber, seemingly there's a couple bl youtubers that seemingly quit being a youtuber after a few months post bl3's release that is somewhat worrying.
@bellystraw
@bellystraw 2 жыл бұрын
@@leeman27534 BL3 was pretty hit or miss for a lot of people. It's a shame but if he found something else he likes doing then I hope he's having a good time doing that
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
@@bellystraw that doesn't really seem to be the issue here - he covered some early bl3 content just fine, and surely if it was just bl3, he'd hve moved on to showing other game video content, instead he's not shown another video for years. there's at least two youtubers i know that covered a ton of borderlands 3 content early on for not being interested in it, that seemingly were forced to stop kinda early into bl3's lifetime, and not because they seemed to think bl3 was trash. they both seemed to be doing their normal schtick for bl3 without any issues, then just stopped - there was talk that they might've gotten in trouble with gearbox somehow with the pre game release info videos or something, and got a cease and desist on their youtube channels or something. that's why i didn't say he wasn't doing bl3 videos, he's seemingly not a youtuber anymore. it's weird that they both seem to enjoy bl3, then just quit youtube entirely. they also both basically stopped being youtubers around december 2019/jan 2020. i mean, shit happens and whatnot, people can stop being youtubers, bu it's just weird these two prominent ones just stopped entirely around the same time for seemingly little reason.
@biofriik
@biofriik 2 жыл бұрын
@@leeman27534 Not the first time Derch has disappeared. He made a comment less than a week ago on his newest video where he simply said that his life has changed, so at least he's still alive.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree. you complain that she has little melee buffs. this is true, but alot of these buffs are MASSIVE! 750% bonus on crackdown with full stacks. an additional 500% if you have 5 third degree stacks and other high bonuses. it's not krieg levels of melee, but that's because she's not meant to have a full on melee build. law and order provides a style of using your guns to support your melee. get your stacks high and you can get work DONE with melee
@jafortune
@jafortune 7 жыл бұрын
Not really. Third Degree on its own isn't enough for good melee damage especially since you only get that full bonus every 5 kills, maybe with Cryo it can work but that's still once every 5 gun kills. And Crackdown is only active every fifteen seconds. 5 kills every 15 seconds is easy for Nisha. So a Hybrid Nisha is spending more than 80% of her kills in guns, assuming she one-shots any enemy she melees. Technically she could get two or more kills as Crackdown is AoE, but it's not likely. Technically it can work, but there's next to no difference than just going straight gun. That's not work. That's the illusion of work. Hybrid Athena won't get as much melee damage in comparison, but can consistently make use of her melee benefits for every single enemy, a dash, a dot, and a multiplicative damage boost. Now that's work!
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
I still think it's significant enough to consider. it's just my own opinion, don't take it seriously. just making such a long comment in response is more flattery than I deserve
@shane1010
@shane1010 7 жыл бұрын
highnoon1987 ß
@rozemorgaine1886
@rozemorgaine1886 6 жыл бұрын
God why did Nisha recycle Maya's idle animation? It's a tiny detail but it sets me off.
@enzodaniel9731
@enzodaniel9731 7 жыл бұрын
i think you should talked more about how fuckin' good the luck cannon is for her, i mean, almost every build has it, maybe im overracting, but i think that it fits extremely well at her kit of skills, ok, he has some firerate buffs, but you can just skip these. here a build that i've made for the luck cannon for her: thepresequel.com/Nisha/0100000000005550050055155501515251/reldesperado,lv70 , im gonna test it when i have time, but i think im gonna swap the rel desperado for the celestial lawbringer (im brazilian and i made my best to write in english)
@pipmcsqueeza1017
@pipmcsqueeza1017 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps someone has pointed this out already, but the shield of ages is parts locked.
@rhynoklein7
@rhynoklein7 2 жыл бұрын
When should I expect to receive my cookie? Great content. I use to play on PS3 during original launch, got away from gaming for a while and circled back on Nintendo switch. So I’m enjoying all your content. Thanks.
@adambarkman1326
@adambarkman1326 5 жыл бұрын
Because of how powerful her Lightning Whip cone is, her melee stuff is crazy. I really like the melee parts of her build.
@deathguy8578
@deathguy8578 7 жыл бұрын
Trick shot, gravestone combo op.
@devilhancore
@devilhancore 7 жыл бұрын
The High Noon skill makes showdown almost identical to McCreeeee's deadeye and I never noticed.
@VileLasagna
@VileLasagna 7 жыл бұрын
This whole "MORE BULLETS BORE BULLETS MORE BULLETS" is basically Krieg in a nutshell. And I expect a lot of the same issues. With Krieg you really only have two and a half damage buffs. The half one being Salt The Wound, which is decent but only if you're running shotguns (and rough riding, but yeah, Krieg hates shields with enough passion that there really isn't an escape) the other two being Pain is Power which is dumb and only kinda works post-UPC as things like Bearcat (and surprisingly wanderlust) got buffed. You WANT to think Slow Hand but that has a problem that segues into the other skill, it doesn't proc Blood Bath by itself, as it's not grenade splash. And BB is the other damage thing and it's amazing enough to be good by itself, except it's a kill skill so you just cry whenever a boss is around. but fire rate can get ridiculously high. Krieg kinda has to take Blood instead of Bone for the ammo capacity most of the time because of that and still, if you don't have that blood bath it's just not enough as you go through mags and mags and things don't die as fast as you need them to. Running on Peak it's quite frustrating. I expect Nisha to have similar issues in that area
@Eugene_TEC
@Eugene_TEC 7 жыл бұрын
An action skill should do more than just boost gun stats IMO but autoaim in an FPS just strikes me the wrong way, same reason I don't really care for Close Enough. Just goes against the entire spirit of the genre.
@boxobanter3278
@boxobanter3278 6 жыл бұрын
Eugene Tan yeah I agree. I was really hoping that her action skill would be that once she activated it, it would slow her down, and she could stack in a bunch of commands and at the end of a timer they would all act out, giving her like stacking damage or something. Say for example, they could make a skill where if the first shot in the chain had fire damage, the rest of the shots in the command list would deal fire damage as well as any other elements shot. An aimbot just feels kind of cheap and annoying, and the skill trees don't support it enough creatively. That being said I do kind of want to feel how a riflewoman nisha plays.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
keep in mind, this isn't JUST an FPS game, it's a loot n' shoot rpg where all the characters play different, not COD. it's also not competitive really, and it's not like autoaim is on all the time - and given how short showdown is, it's kinda needed to 'make the most' out of the limited time and 'slowed down' skills wouldn't work in co-op, for the same reason some co-op potential games don't 'pause' the gameplay as you'd stop other players from kicking ass, as well.
@GothicSoldier9000
@GothicSoldier9000 3 жыл бұрын
Gearbox seems to have an affinity (at least in BL) for bad endgame scaling and putting random melee damage buffs on everyone whether or not they're likely to use it effectively if at all. There are WAY too many cool-in-concept moves (most of them being "damage rank" skills) that just get strangled by bad scaling.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
tbh TPS has probably the best scaling in the series. i mean bl1's not terrible, but it's because it's the first, and doesn't scale up too much anyway - still, any ammo regen com is usually the best sort of coms to use, outside of some builds like 'infinite walk lilith' bl2 had a major problem balancing uvhm as if everyone was using slag, the bee, and unkempt harold, kinda, to the point they added OP levels because shit was crazy - not to mention truly broken skills that could give like a thousand % damage boost for sal and krieg that some other characters can't match bl3, they've done a better job scaling stuff together, but they scaled only legendary guns to endgame - atm you can get a decent level 20 guns with like 200 damage, a level 20 legendary might be 3k damage - but they also fucked up nerfing some shit, like amara's STILL screwed over from early nerfs. the damage rank stuff is fucked in most of them (not terrible in bl1, but again, it didn't scale up much in general, so was easier to put 'decent' damage numbers for), and exp is fucked for TPS, as well as sort of TOO good skill trees, with excellent synergy (like jack's clones activating kill skills = like an 8 skill chain), but it's done decently here, for the mostpart.
@unclenich
@unclenich 7 жыл бұрын
Love these vids man keep it up!
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
Trying to hit them up weekly, record on sat, post on sundays.
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 7 жыл бұрын
After some months of playing Borderlands 2 and TPS, I still think Nisha is the most interesting TPS vault hunter conceptually, but has perhaps the weakest skill trees overall. Her left tree is a melee hybrid, ok fine. Middle tree is jumbled up to fuck along with the right one. Skills are just all over the place. Her Two Fang, One Shot One Kill, Crack Shot, her skill that gives ignite chance on crits with non-elemental guns (IIRC), Tombstone, Close Enough, Magnificent Six and all her hipfire skills should all be on ONE tree. All Showdown skills should be in one tree. Just like how all her Order skills are in... You guessed it... One tree. Then her middle tree would be Sal's Rampage tree, her right tree would be pure damage skills and Jacobs shenanigans. But it does no good to give Nisha a shitload of fire rate buffs (for example) if she's going to be using Jacobs. Fuck. Why wouldn't Gearbox know that? So building Nisha is a lot like building Gaige IMO, where you need to pick from all three trees to put together a build that makes sense. I like all three of Nisha's capstones. The explosion adds more damage which just lets you kill more shit coming out of Showdown and ensure you have kill skills up. One For Each of Ya is simply fun. Thunder Crackdown makes her a viable melee hybrid. But a lot of her gamechangers are like Gaige's and simply suck ass.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 6 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraiGoomba I feel like they originally designed Nisha to use that one slow as fuck fire rate jakobs pistol, but when they decided not to bring that gun back they forgot to redesign her
@darkerbot1337
@darkerbot1337 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, does the Luck Cannon really get the Crack Shot on all 4 shots? I was playing without FoB, because I wanted it to be always active. This would be amazing :D
@imasiontist653
@imasiontist653 7 жыл бұрын
the hipfire skills should have been in the fan the hammer tree because they work with one for each
@imasiontist653
@imasiontist653 7 жыл бұрын
I might play a Nisha next. this looks very fun. I want to start her now but I just only reached lvl 21 as jack...
@CherryBombLoren
@CherryBombLoren 7 жыл бұрын
Mister Torgue High-Five Flexington honestly what I'm going through rn
@InkWavve
@InkWavve 5 жыл бұрын
IDK what was up with your Laser Disker. That was super weird, but it's a shame that you didn't get to showcase the crazy shit that goes down when Laser Diskers can actually crit with Tombstone.
@MrKhaosRaider
@MrKhaosRaider 7 жыл бұрын
tediore splitters + trick shot and snap shot = endless torrent of death
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+shnupz I meant to bring a splitter but forgot...
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 7 жыл бұрын
Claptrap is disjointed fan the hammer is awkward. Wilhelm's cyber commando is decent but it kinda a mess.
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
absorb shields for mobbing
@punishedburger9689
@punishedburger9689 7 жыл бұрын
What skin are you using?
@dollin971
@dollin971 7 жыл бұрын
I think its the skin you get for having the season pass for tales from the borderlands, it's called "Never Can Tale"
@kendogz161
@kendogz161 7 жыл бұрын
The Lady Fist, you have to gibbed it but on Nisha it's so broken.
@nicholaswatson999
@nicholaswatson999 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Edge damn Edge
@AlertROFL
@AlertROFL 6 жыл бұрын
Bit late, but they could still change the fire rate to ONLY jacobs weapons
@michealmeunier7487
@michealmeunier7487 7 жыл бұрын
it gets so bad with nisha the you dont even reload your guns. you twitch and your sledges is reloaded. your nukem is just coming up to fire. your jakobs guns have been reloaded about 6 times. so ye. also jakobs pistols. cause auto aim+no spread. the fire rate doesnt really matter with them and assault rifles are not really her thing. but dahl smgs RULE!
@Lexcommentyoutube
@Lexcommentyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
she sounds like a better designed character then jack, although could be better with a couple of changes
@razielsghost6108
@razielsghost6108 7 жыл бұрын
How is Magnificent six any good with shotguns? O.o You usually fire more rounds per shot with shotguns... So on a quad barrel and scav barrel you get the bonus on only 2 shots. Isnt it much better on 1 ammo per shot guns? (like pistols)
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Raziel'sghost on a Jakobs quad or coach you get it on everyshot
@razielsghost6108
@razielsghost6108 7 жыл бұрын
I mean if its a 2 shot quad and a 3 shot coach, sure. But if it has a bigger mag than that, it shouldn't boost it right? It says right there in the skill last 6 rounds not shots..
@SirZelean
@SirZelean 6 жыл бұрын
So, Nisha smell like Jakobs all the way, is sick with revolvers and can dual wield them, has quite a bunch of synergy with shotguns and all that fire rate bonus work really well with bolt-action sniper rifles? Was she made for me? I mean, full Jacobs pistol-shotgun-sniper (and zookas for FFYL) has been my main setup for a long time in BL2 xD (until TVHM forced me to change to other things on Zer0)
@SirZelean
@SirZelean 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Fridgia shoots in a unicorn pattern? XD Haven't noticed that
@orangeyfly
@orangeyfly 7 жыл бұрын
nice. any idea for whose next?
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
I'm planing on sal but I could go gaige instead
@TheAdditionalPylons
@TheAdditionalPylons 5 жыл бұрын
"There isn't enough pistol skills, not enough synergy"... uhhh, wat? All of them are pistol skills, none of them are "misjointed". A skill that makes the most sense for a revolver in the "Fan The Hammer" tree is a pistol skill even if it isn't limited to just revolvers. If magnificent six was limited to pistols only, would that make it somehow better? The answer is no. Yeah, its weak for guns with big mags, but it seems to me like they decided to not artificially limit its application to hand-hold dumb people into its most efficient application. The devs thought people would intelligent enough to realize that it isn't intended for a Caustic SMG with a 27 round mag.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
the point is, it's weird to have that limited of an capstone skill and hardly any skills that support 'just' that. like, gaige's melee capstone - doesn't really make her a super great melee character (though you can have a melee build), yet the capstones are supposed to be super great defining skills worth investing like 25+ points into a tree for. and without 'other' pistol related skills, almost why bother? just use shotguns that work with her low mag, nonelemental stuff.
@DemoniteBL
@DemoniteBL Жыл бұрын
It's not really a pistol skill tree anyway. It's a Showdown skill tree. Most skills relate to Showdown and so does the capstone.
@michealmeunier7487
@michealmeunier7487 7 жыл бұрын
14.5% of showdown damage on the bog standard nisha build=full heals every kill
@Zsoki
@Zsoki 7 жыл бұрын
Nisha!!! ♥♥♥
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Zsoki zsoki!!!😀❤❤❤❤
@jciarkowski3109
@jciarkowski3109 7 жыл бұрын
Derch they replaced the emoji for a revolver but keeps the bomb, makes sense
@ShadowknightEX
@ShadowknightEX 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of kill skills, and skills that might as well be kill skills
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
the snowball does decently
@Mcmadness288
@Mcmadness288 Жыл бұрын
I've watched many of these vids now and every time you casually toss away a legendary item it triggers my anxiety.
@bradley9037
@bradley9037 7 жыл бұрын
So who to can we expect to see next time?
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Dr. Dapper I'm planning on sal right now
@rawovunlapin8201
@rawovunlapin8201 7 жыл бұрын
Axton skill tree and gear guide
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
I copy and paste the title and description over and it didn't save because sometimes youtube is stupid.
@rawovunlapin8201
@rawovunlapin8201 7 жыл бұрын
ok 👌
@WGG-01
@WGG-01 7 жыл бұрын
Tombstone+pretty much any gun=win
@XoRandomGuyoX
@XoRandomGuyoX 7 жыл бұрын
Tombstone plus Maliwan Beams plus the skill that extends Showdown with each enemy killed along with the one that snowballs damage for each second Showdown is active. That's Nisha's max mobbing DPS in a nutshell. The game basically plays itself at that point.
@rukrawczyk
@rukrawczyk 7 жыл бұрын
XoRandomGuyoX why do you think people make the sal comparisons?
@mwu365
@mwu365 7 жыл бұрын
"this is very gunslingy" i don't why but I love that
@thallysaugusto3130
@thallysaugusto3130 7 жыл бұрын
hey derch,Just became a big fan of borderlands series and my fav character is cl4p trap,really enjoy your videos and wanted to ask about making a clap guide
@rosiestfive0117
@rosiestfive0117 5 жыл бұрын
Watching video while playing my nisha. Says at 1:06:00 if you use the shredifier then you just wont have ammo Me: *uses shredifier while fighting eos trying to get luck cannon 😳
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 4 жыл бұрын
he also said 'if you're fighting bosses ammo conservation be damnded'
@STALKER777LK
@STALKER777LK 3 жыл бұрын
How a badly designed action skill can destroy an ok vault haunter:
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
it's not her action skill that's teh problem, really. hell, derch himself basically said 'i imagined this character as the sort of 'build your own vault hunter' minus the autoaim part' she's just got too many fire rate buffs, and lacks some ammo mitigation potential, that's ti.
@YouWillBeBleeding
@YouWillBeBleeding 7 жыл бұрын
I kinda got bored of the auto-aim and started running around with the Hail and Tediore Reloads :D
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
actually just got done posting after rewatching this for like the third time, she doesn't remind me of sal or gaige, she reminds me of tediore axton, minus the chucking - good general gun boosts, some specialized stuff for certain things, but ammo is an issue for her while mobbing - better to swap around several weapons so as to not burn out of one type too quickly, and evne if it's not fitting the build as much, at least one 'fall back to' ish weapon that has a massive ammo pool
@tomnastyV2
@tomnastyV2 7 жыл бұрын
Bringing back characters with revamped skill treez for B3 would be sick
@VileLasagna
@VileLasagna 7 жыл бұрын
I'd rather see new characters in keeping with the trend, tbh. Maybe if they bring back others through DLC later on if the game gets that big
@imasiontist653
@imasiontist653 7 жыл бұрын
Vile Lasagna or both
@VileLasagna
@VileLasagna 7 жыл бұрын
Brace for wall Which is why I mentioned DLC. Thing is, each game has had 4 Vault Hunters, with additional characters for 2 and TPS later. But in the storyline, not all of them are around. Even so, we still have: Lilith Mordecai Brick Axton Zer0 Salvador Maya Krieg Gaige Aurelia Athena Claptrap Timothy(maybe?) So that's 12 or 13 "legacy" characters, which is a LOT. Now. If BL3 gets, let's say at least as big as BL2, then having a bunch of characters would be nice, but I'd prefer if we had a new batch of VHs, they don't have to be all new characters, there's a few good candidates for new VHs already in the old games, but having old peeps come back would take their shine away, I think. At least for the main story. I'd very much like to see at least some of these characters again. Geez, give Krieg the minor tweaks he needs and bring him back, yes, please. And after you've polished up the main experience, I think that's not too difficult a thing to do (tracking down voice actors pending). But you also have to think on what are we doing and "just how many characters we need", so to speak. That list has 3 snipers, 2 sirens, 2 ninjas, 3 explosive characters, two fire character, one cryo character, two shock characters, both sirens have a ton of elemental stuff in general, we have 2 pistol cowboys, 3 and a half melee characters...... It's just a shit ton of character concepts and I feel that making all of this stuff work without just going "so we give this element to this one and this other element to this other one and this guy can basically only use shotguns" would be a challenge. Character variety just matters while the characters are different, so to speak. We can have Krieg and Zer0 meleeing in the same game because they work that so different, kinda like in BB we can have Marquis and Thorn snipe and they're both so different (although that game does have much more severe character limitations so not an "apples to apples" comparison). But if you have Brick, Krieg and Claptrap in the same game and each of them has an explosive build (Krieg really only has 3 skills in different trees for that, poor krieg) then how do you tell them apart mechanically? If someone like Torgue or Tina becomes a VH (which is pretty possible), how do you make sure they are still different. So sure, bringing back old VHs would be nice but... baby steps =P
@SchwarzerHaufen
@SchwarzerHaufen 6 жыл бұрын
Yea no fuck old characters gimme new ones.
@boxobanter3278
@boxobanter3278 6 жыл бұрын
I think if they brought in old characters that we couldn't play as before for the new vault hunters, that would be amazing. Like imagine playing as Tiny Tina, or Hammerlock, maybe even Loader Bot from the TellTale series, that would be so incredible. But all new guys would be pretty cool too I think, I just can't wait till we get to see more of BL3
@kais5348
@kais5348 7 жыл бұрын
Why did it say axton with demonite?
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
I copy and paste the title and description over and it didn't save because sometimes youtube is stupid.
@kais5348
@kais5348 7 жыл бұрын
Derch oh lol
@kais5348
@kais5348 7 жыл бұрын
Derch btw do you think Tiny Tina would be a good playable character in borderlands 3
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
I think I would rather have her stay an NPC
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
I think some characters are just better as NPC's because as a playable character you see them less unless you are playing them. I like the idea of her as a NPC for that reason.
@Mrnevertalks
@Mrnevertalks 7 жыл бұрын
3:58 Law and Order is acknowledged as the best tree to go down for normal, and is an integral part of Nisha builds. Even before the lvl 60 cap, it was used in a fair number of builds, and was always suggested when people complained about Nisha not being tanky. 6:31 Gotta disagree there. I'm not gonna say that the melee skills on Axton and Maya weren't dumb, but melee hybrids like Gaige and Nisha bring a lot of diversity to the game. They don't need to make every character melee or bust. Especially considering a fairly common complaint with both Gaige and Nisha is that they are too easy, their melee play styles are far more engaging and reward knowledge of mechanics. I hope GB improves upon the concept to make it more powerful rather than removing it. 12:51 She has 565% melee damage with just 20 order stacks and 5 stacks of 3rd degree. She basically gets killing blow every 5 kills. That seems like a decent amount to me. 29:09 Gathering Tempest was the name of the skill. 44:30 This may have been patched, but the damage reduction on trickshot is bugged and doesn't work, so the skill has no penalty. Source forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/guide-nishas-skills-for-tenderfoot/944. If you look at 45:20 and 45:51 you'll see that your body shot and your trick shot had the same damage.
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
I think Nisha has the tools to be an efficient hybrid melee character, but not a full melee one. Her 2 best melee skills have limitations: one has a cooldown (TC) and the other one needs you to kill to stack bonuses (3rd degree) so that sits really well if you intend to smack once in a while, but nothing more than that. IMO, it's worth picking 3rd degree because you need to spend 4 points to go further down the tree anyway, and it's that or Wanted...and it's worth picking TC for the extra stacks and the big wallop, but none of her other melee skills are worth it at all. If you don't want to go hybrid, then just pick Wanted to go down the tree and stop at blood of the guilty. In short, what's great about melee hybrid with Nisha is that it requires very few points. As for L&O being the best tree for normal mode, I kinda disagree partially: You want order as your first skill, and once you have enough points, you want all the gamechangers in the middle to reach 25 stacks, but otherwise, Fan the Hammer is a better investment early on for Ruthless and Liquid Courage (and Mag6 if you are using Jakobs Shotguns) and most of the early skills in Riflewoman are also great, so i'm kind of on the fence with that one. At the END of normal mode, definitely, but at very early levels... not that much.
@lostcompassion90
@lostcompassion90 7 жыл бұрын
DeputyChuck It was honestly the same with Gaige. Neither are proper full-melee characters, of course not, but them having some capability to be hybrid characters brings a good amount of diversity to the table, at least in my opinion.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
nah - order might be the best first skill to get, but i don't think it's the best first skil tree to go down, fan the hammer AND riflewoman are better in that regard - hell, outside of a melee build i wouldn't even suggest getting much past that one tier 4 skill that enhances order stacks even more, as those points are better used in say, trick shot and tombstone.
@HotaruZoku
@HotaruZoku 5 жыл бұрын
In the future releases of Borderlands, perhaps stick to the characters you enjoy playing. It's incredibly obvious you don't like this character, which translates into not wanting to make the video, which translates into basically shitting on the character for almost 2 hours straight. This is in stark contrast to how upbeat and positive you are with most other deep dives, and is a borderline DSP level of salt that just doesn't make for an interesting or entertaining video.
@blairhaffly1777
@blairhaffly1777 3 жыл бұрын
HotaruZoku, I'm late but I agree. Painful to watch. I'm moving on to a guide with some enthusiasm.
@gasdorficmuncher9943
@gasdorficmuncher9943 5 жыл бұрын
i think thats why i am broke at level 40 pistal fire rate increases
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm is designed only for theming and not function.
@leeman27534
@leeman27534 2 жыл бұрын
nah, wilhelm's pretty great he's THE best laser character hands down, and has some great potential with some hunter killer skills helping mobbing more, whereas dreadnaught's overcharge is utterly fantastic to use against bosses - he's got a great bonus regardless of if he's using his action skill for all it's worth, or recalling it early for stockpiling those healing and support bonuses more often in tougher fights. nisha and claptrap are kinda bad for function - the jacobs character with 5 frigging fire rate buffs, and fucking claptrap's one skill tree is almost impossible to get all the benefits from without incurring penalties, it's extremely finnicky and almost never actually works out for the boon it sort of wants to be.
@vincentviera9105
@vincentviera9105 7 жыл бұрын
in your opinion did you really enjoy the prequel sequel
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Vincent Vierra yeah I loved it
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Vincent Vierra I wouldn't be doing videos on it if I didn't like it
@johnnynunes4852
@johnnynunes4852 7 жыл бұрын
have you done wilhelm and claptrap?
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Johnny Nunes not yet I just hit the half way with Nisha. I've done zer0, Athena, krieg, aurelia, action, and Nisha.
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+Johnny Nunes not yet I just hit the half way with Nisha. I've done zer0, Athena, krieg, aurelia, action, and Nisha.
@dollin971
@dollin971 7 жыл бұрын
I can't wait till you get to maya if its not 2h (or more) long i'll be super disappointed ^^
@dollin971
@dollin971 7 жыл бұрын
maybe she would have need a kill Skill to gain ammo regen during 7 sec, it wouldn't have been so broken IMO
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
IMO, the easiest and most natural way to give her ammo mitigation would be to make the ammo from Gunslinger free. It would turn a bad skill into a great one and actually make the cowgirl COM worthwhile.
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
...And also make it work on both guns when using pistols with OFEOY...
@imcel8953
@imcel8953 7 жыл бұрын
@derch no claptrap build?
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+ImCel89 I'm going to get it done
@imcel8953
@imcel8953 7 жыл бұрын
Derch awesome. these guides are great!
@Derchlands
@Derchlands 7 жыл бұрын
+ImCel89 it should be next Sunday unless my weekend fills up then it will have to wait one more week. With them being so long I have to start them by 9am to get them out for the following day. Takes a long time to edit, render, upload and process a 2-3 hour video.
@jciarkowski3109
@jciarkowski3109 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like nisha's action skill was made very lazily
@rdu239
@rdu239 4 жыл бұрын
It makes maliwan lasers bearable
@big_man_
@big_man_ 7 жыл бұрын
Derch said "before I dig into her"
@Crit7k
@Crit7k 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh i know you gave a link to royalty free music but i need the SPECIFIC songs in the vid, or atleast the genre of them lol
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
bfg & saddle up are multiplicatice
@jaredgross9173
@jaredgross9173 6 жыл бұрын
I think but I'm not 100% sure
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