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Bottomless Portafilter | How to get correct Extraction | Breville Barista Express
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54mm Bottomless Portafilter
How to get perfect honey like Extraction without channeling and spurts.
how to fix channeling in espresso?
how to fix spurts in Bottomless Portafilter?
@zanebradford7258 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful. I'm glad that people who love coffee all share this hilarious love of drinking strong but tasty espresso. Cheers everybody!!
@luckycharms797 Жыл бұрын
this is an ocd's nightmare. im going broke trying to fix my pulls. why did I ever buy a breville espresso machine. why couldn't I just be happy with an aero press coffee.
@yixianlim2000 Жыл бұрын
This is the best channel on KZfaq for coffee, even better if you owned the Breville Barista Express. Everything you need to know are all here.
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that and thank you 😊
@cardten 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The last shot is beautiful.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JohnClulow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this helpful video. After a lot of trials over many months, I finally arrived at essentially the same method you used at the end. The only small differences for me are that I use four 0.4 mm flexible needles on a wine cork to deeply stir and fluff the bed before distribution and tamping and I then mist the surface with about 2 ml water before mounting the portafilter. (This misting promotes even initial penetration of the surface and slightly speeds up flow allowing a bit finer grind.) Cheers!
@shelbypostproduction 2 жыл бұрын
Really informative video. I just got Bambino and couldn’t figure out why it was channeling with the bottomless portafilter. Now with 21g and fine ground and some heavy tamping it’s working much better.
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that Shelby!
@makgajwerek 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have Sage/Breville Bambino Plus and use also 54 mm portafilter. I already ordered NPF to check the correct extraction. I have noticed that in case of my Bambino better results I can achive if using blend coffee beans. The last shot was perfect :-)
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@riccosauve2827 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the informative videos ordered my bottomless portafilter this made it easier thanks for all the information I really enjoy them
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@dennisseemann571 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Thank You Thank You, I just purchased a bottomless portafilter and have been struggling with channeling (A.K.A. Spirting) I have tried 20gms but just couldn't get the right tamp, I used your methodology and I'm about 5:1 good results to poor results, a win for sure.
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that. Every beans are different and 5oon you're going to be an expert
@dean7442 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best coffee videos on KZfaq. Really informative and helps me a lot, thanks Aju. I'll let you know when my 53.3 tamp arrives and I have tested.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dean. Looking forward for your feedback.
@dean7442 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe Hey Aju, I now have the 53.3mm tamper and distributer tool from Crema. It works very well, it reduces the gap against 54mm basket and reduces channelling too. Provides a good feel to the tamp process, it's weighted well. Good quality product and made very well. I am pleased with it.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
@@dean7442 thanks for the feedback. Does it have some gap as shown in the video 8:05? I know the crema brand. They have good reviews. Enjoy the new accessory!
@dean7442 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe Hi, it does have a gap, but a much smaller one which gives a little movement, but not much. I think this leads tamping the coffee a bit better as it covers a greater area. I bought a 'Hot Water / Steam' handle to replace the knob too. Will fit that this weekend :)
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
@@dean7442 you mean the tip of steam wand with 4 holes instead of single hole?
@dodaexploda 2 жыл бұрын
I think this was very helpful for me. I think I see what I'm doing wrong, I'm still way too corse. Thank you for this video.
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@jeremylwh 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! It is helpful to me. I listened from the beginning till the end. It gave me a great advise of doing waste method by breaking up the big chunks. Thank you! Liked and subscribed :)
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and thanks for subscribing
@MagicArt431 3 жыл бұрын
After 6 months of experience with Breville Barista express I noticed something very important: the best shoots extracted it was directly link of how coffee was roasted: medium-dark is the best.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I always roast medium.
@MagicArt431 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe Thank you, very true.
@miguelmavo5971 15 күн бұрын
how to fix channeling for good :L you have very nice tools to distribute and even with that there is channeling :( also happen to me :(
@toddredlin5634 3 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the 54mm basket should have less channeling than 58mm as the basket is denser with coffee beans also you can take a cork and insert three straighten paper clips to make tool for breaking up clumps per Hoons channel
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd. I tried with 3 or more toothpicks on Weiss method earlier. I think i did that in the 10 distribution methods video in my channel. But i spilled Grinds. So 1 or 2 worked well for me where it's easy to break the chunky Grinds.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
The Lobster fork works best amongst all tools I tried 🙂
@normanwolfe7639 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aju This really helped me. I just got my Crema bottomless and noticed a bit of channeling. Was disappointed with them mess and not sure what to do. The pressure and timing seemed right. Then I noticed that the grind volume seemed very different when I went to a dark bean recently. We always had a light to medium bean and I always measured 18 grams as recommended. Your video has given me some great things to try. 1st, I will try 20 grams and see what happens. I use the same tamper tool as you so I know the tamp level is right. I always had the wavey surface on my puck so I know something is off. The bottomless will help me perfect my extraction that I may have missed without it. Cheers from Chilliwack!
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Did you manage to get good Extraction with 20g? You could also use Breville's basket on your Portafilter if you want the numbers right.
@loladelvalle7937 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks You !!!! I got the machine for christmas!!! ...no nothing about coffee I am a tea drinker but for a change decided to purchase one. So informative !!! i I will practice tomorrow !!! I don't have the portafilter ,guess I will use the one that comes wth the machine for now . I do like to purchase the distribution tool ..can u let me know from where ? Thanks I like that you take your time .!!!
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
You are going to enjoy the machine and coffee. The 2 in 1 tamper is available on Amazon. Look for 53mm size. For example www.amazon.com/Beymill-Espresso-Distributor-Portafilter-Adjustable/dp/B08DD5R8XC/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=2+in+1+tamper+breville&qid=1609915889&sr=8-6
@ryanbaxendine8522 9 ай бұрын
Hi Anju, Great video! Thanks for sharing! To confirm, fresh coffee, 21g in using an internal setting of 6 and outer setting of 4? What pressure level does it hit when you pull the shot? (top of bars? mid? didn't see it while you were pulling). When I switched from my factory dual spout revile basket and wand to the bottomless portafilter, the pressure went from mid-range during extraction to the top of the range.. any ideas how to lower this? As I understand it, the default OPV is set to 15 bar, with each bar on the range is roughly 2 bar. Apparently, a bottomless portafilter is meant to run on an optimal 9bar max setting.
@GoodLifeinChiangMaiThailand 3 жыл бұрын
You did it !! 1k 🏆
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all my subscribers including you
@ggivensjr 3 жыл бұрын
I have same experince with the non-breville 20g basket. I think the non-breville basket is a triple shot 20-22g basket. I assume basket came from Ali Express Fennicafe shop?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
From aliexpress.com, but from Bokarstar store
@gogetter1861 Жыл бұрын
I recommend to grind 10g then shake out then add rest to avoid overspill
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
I used to have that habit until i use a dosing cup. It is recommended to dose it fully and use WDT tool to break all clumps before we tamp. Else it can create challenging. So you won't find this menthol in my later videos.
@msaloha001 2 жыл бұрын
What is the size of your tamper? I think I have the same bottomless portafilter
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Tamper is 53mm
@huinalunovb6881 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a lot of channeling and fast so I adjusted the grinder from 5 to 3, leveling and use a stick to evenly distribute the coffee but no change
@jimmyho9649 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Did you try using bottomless portafilter but with Breville original basket? Is that mean we would follow same dose?
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But this basket is slightly bigger than Breville's basket. So i use 19.5 or 20g
@pcrate20 2 жыл бұрын
how can you be sure that you get 18 g aprox, after you grinder, because always you some coffee bean in the drinder that is not completly grinder. or you clean your grinder very time that you grinder coffee?
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
It is not accurate. Unless we use a bellow or weigh after doing the dose
@franciscooscarmendezpolanc4471 2 жыл бұрын
Hi the pressure gauge move to the middle or is no movement went you use the bottomless?
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
It goes to 12 or 1 o clock range, when you get the right Extraction
@0134harley 2 жыл бұрын
Hi sir , the naked portafilter you are using the original filter basket from BBE ? I bought BBE yesterday, and do you consider naked portafilter a upgrade?
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Li, Breville don't make Bottomless Portafilter i know of. You need to buy from 3rd party manufacturer. Make sure you get 54mm size Bottomless Portafilter. I would say if you are serious about making espresso, its a must buy. You will be able to learn about channeling with this and make far better espresso. Also monitor that honey like pour is mesmerizing 🙂
@2002flstci 3 жыл бұрын
What was the reading on the pressure gauge for the last shot? Was it at 12 o'clock , 1 o'clock or something else? I have ordered a bottomless portafilter from Crema. I hope I can pull as good a shot as you have!
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
You should be able to get. Use freshly roasted beans and dial in to the sweet spot of the bean. See if your basket is bigger than the Breville's basket and dose accordingly. Remember the default burr grinder is not that great. So expect some flaws there. Last shot was at close to 1 o clock range
@saulovicentejunior7411 3 жыл бұрын
What grinder number do you use?
@Jlui83 3 жыл бұрын
Are you using manual shots or programmed here? If using program did you program or using factory settings? Which one are you using 1 or 2?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
I use the automatic pre-set settings in this video. I have done Manual shots too. See my fee videos in my channel on Manual Mode. I've explained them in those videos.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
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@mohchou9768 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use a single shot basket with bottomless portafilter?
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
Yes see my other video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9JkhsiSlsfeoXU.html
@andrevlutters7466 3 жыл бұрын
That last shot was beautiful! One question, can't you just change out those baskets?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes I can change baskets on this Bottomless Portafilter and put Breville's basket. I noticed that the basket that came with this Bottomless Portafilter is super tight.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you have mentioned, I'm going to try it.. 🙂
@andrevlutters7466 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe would love to know how that works out for you, as I am thinking about buying one.
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrevlutters7466 I'll post it soon
@Jlui83 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe update? Does it work with factory basket?
@Displays.1234. 2 жыл бұрын
All your problems is because your coffee is badly clumped , WDT is the answer, you need to put 4 or more 0.4 or 0.35 acupuncture needles into a cork and do small circular motions from the bottom up, do not use a leveler afterwards, just tampering.... Ie a paper clip is far to wide....
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Paul regarding WDT too. It helps.
@riffmeisterkl 2 жыл бұрын
What basket can fit 20g? May I know which you’re using ?
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
HENRD. Link in the description
@Jlui83 3 жыл бұрын
Does the breville basket fit inside the bottomless portafilter?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Breville basket fits well
@jackMcRyder 3 жыл бұрын
touching touching... but why does the coffee has to be touching the top? In fact it may not be too good? I thought Gayle from Seattlecoffee had said "not too good".. it perhaps limits the expansion of the coffee
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I use Razor height recommended by Breville which will be slightly below the GroupHead(before Extraction). But as you know coffee expands and it will touch the GroupHead eventually. Thats the mark you see. But the point is after tamping, when you put the Portafilter on to the GroupHead and remove immediately(before Extraction), it shouldn't show any signs that it touched the Group head. If it does that means there is no gap, and when you extract you may burn the top portion of puck. Also if you leave too much gap, that's also not recommended as you will see soggy puck Always use Razor or adjust your tamper to Razor tool height. Atleast in Breville machine.
@jackMcRyder 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe BTW sadly, a bit earlier versions of Infuser I think did not come with the razor. Cool
@Zinpei1213 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Im zin , I would like to tell u tat my water volume problem solved ! Nw learning to use bottomless portafilter.. ☺️ can i ask for the details ? So you are using inner , outer 4 in grind size, 21g of dose, and around 43g of yields right ? And u are not using default setting of one or two cups ? U using program setting to get the right yield ?
@Zinpei1213 2 жыл бұрын
And can i use pressurized basket with bottomless portafilter ?
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zinpei1213 NO.. NEVER use Pressurized basket on Bottomless Portafilter, as the pressure can spray out in great force and its dangerous!
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that your water volume issue is sorted. Yes please shoot out questions. You can either depend on Automatic Extraction of Breville or you could program the volume of shot OR you can manually extract. I have 3 or 4 videos regarding these. If you are using auto Extraction mode, all you could do is control the Grind size, tamping pressure etc to control the yield. Or you can use Manual Mode or Program Mode to stop the Extraction either by Volume or Weight. I'll link those videos below
@AjusCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Program Mode kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idBhrLV7mcrPdKc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f8h6m5Sintecp6s.html Manual Mode kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJdldrWQpp-0l4E.html Manual Preinfusion kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5NpeMZ2uL3Nl40.html
@Zinpei1213 2 жыл бұрын
Thx ☺️ will try it soon
@van-usa3030 3 жыл бұрын
What coffee beans do you use?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
TANZANIAN green beans from Amazon. "Green Coffee Co." brand. I Roasted them at home.
@mica32j 3 жыл бұрын
Will the OEM basket fit in the bottomless portalFilter ?
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it fits perfectly. The basket that came with the Portafilter is slightly tighter than breville. But both should be 54mm in order to work properly.
@mica32j 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjusCafe so I thought if the OEM basket works, you can continue using the same 17.5 volume. If the goal to the bottomless is to perfect your dose, this is one variable that is removed from the equation
@AjusCafe 3 жыл бұрын
@@mica32j good point Mica. I don't remove the bottomless Portafilter basket as its too tight. But since I now know the equation i always increase +3g to get the consistency. I'm going to try a shot with Breville basket soon.
@-Vee_ 2 жыл бұрын
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@DJShekh 2 жыл бұрын
Thats way too fast pour..!!
@mohchou9768 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
Hello
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@alanh8101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Aju you do this the Best 🤌🏼
@AjusCafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks
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