The issue is, channelling will be occurring with the spouted portafilter as well but you just can't see it. That's why a bottomless portafilter is good, as it allows you to perfect the technique which ultimately will lead to you pulling better shots regardless of the portafilter

I wish there was a transparent/glass portafilter so that we can observe the beauty without the mess!

As a past espresso shop owner, you easily are teaching me some techniques & your simply enjoyable to watch! As we know that the art of espresso has evolved & will continue to, & there is always new tools & tips to learn in order to perfect the best extraction. I remember baristas used to tap the commercial portafilter with the tamper after they dosed it & before they tamped it, & we discovered beneath it would cause hairline fractures/cracks inside the fullness in the coffee in portafilter, disrupting the water flow in those areas where the “cracks” were allowing too quick of extraction in the areas. These habits were learned from other baristas showing them , & it became a bad habit that wasn’t known to be a bad habit. That’s incredible these great tools like the doser ring/funnel, & your little gadget to fluff the grounds are so intuitive!! I love seeing evolution & there’s nothing better or more enjoyable then espresso & making your own. It’s an amazing learning experience & a must of you appreciate espresso! Thanks for all your expertise! Glad I found your channel!

very good. I like the practicality of the regular portafilter and it will do just fine for me. You are part of the reason why I went with breville for my first machine. I love watching you try different coffee's as well!

I actually just like the way the regular portafilter pours the double stream. Purely from an esthetic standpoint

Your channel is very newbie friendly. One variable I that has improved my shot is using a nidle to distribute my grounds.

You have many toys now Hoon. We won't be able to keep up with you 😂

I really appreciate your videos, Hoon! I’m sticking to my regular portafilter for now but may put the bottomless portafilter on my Christmas list!

I noticed the bottomless only ran for 11 seconds ( i timed it ) that's way too fast. Should be somewhere around 20 to 30 seconds which means for the bottomless you might have to adjust the grind finer or tamp harder.

How come i dont have pressure on single wall bottom less baskets?

Might be interesting to test thermal stability with a Thermapen to see if the bottomless is indeed cooler? I always assumed the opposite. Wish you had taken 5 more minutes to dial in a bit more. Your earlier video on bottomless convinced me to buy one. Now I’m hooked. Keep up the good work.

Great video - thanks for posting. I have recently bought a bottomless portafilter and have the exact same machine as you, and also use the distributor tool. However when I use the bottomless one, the coffee spits out of the bottom, often shooting in different directions and making a mess, rather than one single smooth flow into the cup. The majority goes into the cup, but little bits spit out and make a mess. It still tastes good and the grind looks metre thing always stays within the grey area - so I know it’s a pretty good quality shot. But any idea why it spits so much and what I can do to prevent it? Thank you

How you get so much pressure with the bottomless portafilter? I just bought one but don’t get as much pressure as the original one.

The reason why I would like to get a bottomless filter is, it gives me more space to fit a coffee cup under the filter

Realy pleased you used built in grinder

Why don't you use the barista express for hot water?

grind 6 would have been nice on the bottomless filter. would love to have seen that.

Love the comparison! I love the information I get from the bottomless.

Hi Hoon, nice video. Would you do a video with the naked portafilter using the Niche and the regular tools? Would be good to see how the normal tamper and the machine itself performs with a better grinder putting aside the St Anthony’s tools

I think u should use the niche and saint anthony to make more consistent shots. So the compare much more apple to apple. Because it will minimize inconsistancy of our hand.

Hi there brother! Just got one for my wife’s birthday. Did you program your Breville to do 3 ounces?

Seems like the bottomless takes more than the 18 g of beans. How much do you actually fill it with? It appears underdosed when I only use 17-18 even 20 seems too little.

Love your content Hoon and it was the best resource on the web for me to get going with Barista Express! Here's a question I've been wondering about. As far as top burr settings the BBE ships with it set at 6 and mine has been at 6 the whole time. I now have my current favorite settings on the side set at 2 for a dark roast I am using and at 1 for a medium roast I am also using. I think on another one of your videos you said you have your top burr set to 5. So my question is - if I went down to 5 - where would I start on my fine settings. Would I go all the way up to 16? Or is there some overlap such that a setting of 1 with top burr set to 6 is like a setting of 8 with top burr set to 5? I can think of an obvious corollary to shifting on bikes where when you change the big chain ring up front you don't necessarily start all the way at the beginning with the cogs on the back. I suspect that there is possibly some overlap here. What are your thoughts? Thanks again and keep up the great content!!!

I would like Crema to make a wood handled regular portafilter. I love the beauty of the wood on my bottomless, but honestly, the mess is frustrating. I do really love the ease of cleaning the bottomless, though. It's so much easier, not that the regular portafilter is difficult. I'm having a ton of trouble with my Barista Express built in grinder, but don't have the funds to splurge on a fancy grinder. Do you have a recommendation of an affordable (say $150 range) grinder? Or should I just start saving up for the one I really want?

Why does no one talk about the most important thing to me: I make two shots every morning with the regular portafilter, 20g and 55ml of coffee (27.5 in each cup). You can't make two cups with bottomless.

How do you get your bottomless to work like that through this machine?! I can’t get anywhere near the espresso pressure range with my bottomless. Spent 20 mins on a call with the people at Breville trying to figure it out and they were rude and saying it would never work with a bottomless… to the point where I hung up on them cause they kept telling me it won’t work, but clearly it does. What’s the trick?!

When using the open portafiter I’m not seeing the full duration of the pressure gauge.

Hey Hoon, in another video you were having trouble with channeling of bottomless PF on your barista express. I have 7 yr old BCG820BSSXL and I found replacing upper burr really helped consistency of espresso grind.

Thanks for the quick reply. Also do you get a better shot using the separate grinder and if so would it be better buying the Breville without the grinder.

You might want to time your shots. It looks like your breville might be extracting too fast.

Can you remove the basket of bottom less one and use Breville basket instead. I just bought the $40 bottom less and the coffee does not come out with creama on top. Please advise. Thanks

Is there a real difference in quality of the espresso shot when you use the niche grinder vs the barista inbuilt grinder. Thanks

Anyone has tried to thread any other spout, generic or from a 58mm portafilter, on the Breville portafilter instead of the original one? I read that maybe any 3/8" threaded spout would do?

love your passion!!

Bottomless never hold pressure for me. I have no idea why. Any ideas?

Is a Breville still suppose to pressure up when using a bottomless portafilter?

Just an observation .. what's the advantage of a bottomless when you take your metal spoon and mix up your espresso anyway? I've got a thing about touching crema with everything except my mouth. I also pull a shot with just water and dry before my espresso. Instead of using your declumping tool .. what do you think about a dosing cup and shaking vigorously? The barista in my area they have a dosing cup that fits perfectly over the portafilter in addition to having that $1,000 Puqpress.

It’s difficult to use bottomless portafilter with high pressure with out special tools.

Can I change from 51mm to 54mm portafilter on my machine?

Hoon thank you for the helpful video and tips

Awesome content! Hope your channel grows! ☕️👌

Just received my bottomless portafilter. The coffe comes out nicely but still spoils drops all over. Any ideas why? Thanks ☕️

Could you please advise where you purchased the ‘white’ dosing funnel shown at approx. 6:02?

Hi Hoon! Awesome videos. I had a quick question for you. I have lost the o ring the goes under the spout which attaches to the portafilter. First of all, is it okay? My spout is not lined up when it is fully tight now. Second, do you where I can buy the ring. I know they sell the ring for the frothier spout but not for the portafilter. Again, love your videos!

Hi Hoon’s. I love your Videos. I had some coffee machine over year. The problems is when you press a sing and a double button the coffee not come out. I Idid descaling for the machine but not works. Do you know what’s the problems with machine. Can you help me out. I appreciate. Thank you.

Does roast make a difference? Say you get your shots dialed in and roast some nore beans, same beans but the roast is longer. Does that affect grind setting and shot?

You should use the best grinder in your arsenal. Poor Niche sitting in the back watching the average output of the Barista Express grinder...

How did you get your pressure gauge to display in that zone?

The bottomless portafilter is a diagnostic tool which will let you know if you need to improve you methodology as far as choosing the correct grind size and preparation skills as far as tamping, etc is concerned. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get a better shot

Could you explain. Which bottomless portafilter this is? Nervous to buy one that won't fit well(too tight, too loose...). Also, would like to see if you make a video comparing your different grinders with the oem grinder, with kitchen space (and money) not always ample, id want to be sure my purchase was worth it. My family pulls 3~4 shots a day.

Idk. I try all your hints and processes, and I taste my shot and it makes my teeth soft. It’s more tolerable when I make a Americana out of it. Lol

can i use the same 2 shot basket from my breville infuser to a bottomless portafilter or should i buy combo?

Bottomless portafilter splashes everywhere

Hi, Do you get a better shot using the separate grinder and if so would it be better buying the Breville without the grinder. Also I looked on Amazon and many people complain that after 2 or 3 years their machines stop working(or even less), I love the look and the way it operates but I have a doubt about the reliability, what do you think?

I have a Brim 19 Bar machine & a a Breville Pro Smart Grinder. Is that similar to the Barista express? Can I try bottomless with that equipment? If I need to go up in quality, I think I’d want to jump a few levels. Suggestions?

Great videos Hoon, I’m getting a lot of spatter from my bottomless ports filter how do I minimise that, I can see in this video you had hardly any splatter.

What was your avg brew time that you target? 18? Good channel btw!

good afternoon, what grinding number do you have inside if the outside is number eight

What is your internal grinder set to?

Where do u get the regular one

What is the 'paperclip distributer de-clamping tool' and where can I get one?

Hoon what do you think of Vst baskets? As I keep hearing vst baskets give a better shot Vs Ims baskets for the portafilter. And which basket comes with the sage barista express ims or vst or standard ? ☕️

Lots of splash in the bottom less?

Has a machine with a built in grinder and a hot water spout. Buys a separate grinder and uses a kettle to heat up water to pre-warm his cups? What’s the point of having that particular espresso machine then?

I thought the higher number is finer grain, and lower number is for more coarse, I have the 860xl prior model

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a question: will the 53mm distributer be good for the 54mm portafilter?

Hey can you tell me how to reset my barista express to factory settings, I played with the temp and it steams the milk way too hot now

I by chefman cappuccino machine I like it work will I'm still learning my self..now I don.t have to go out four cappuccino span 7.99 can have at home

Hi Hoon, I'm looking at getting a Lelit Anna 2 with PID and a 1Zpresso JX-Pro hand grinder. My budget is around $800-$900. Got any other ideas or advice? Thanks.

Great video, thanks

Hi Hoon, what was the brew recipe for the both extractions?

do they not have electric automatic kettles in the US? Stovetop kettles are very 1950s.

Is it expensive? How much is it?

I prefer the bottomless.

please ... try other non breville machines

Lol I use fork as tool makes cofee then make Mt shot fork work ok

Is the naked one single wall?

Should go finer bro

Hoon, you should time your shots on the next video

Waste of time.