You just help me more than any video I've watched today.

Some manufacturers use the same core, but their cover stock has these differences to make more models, despite the "skin" being the only difference

That makes.. perfect sense. I am still using house balls and I've noticed the faster I throw, the more it acts like a spare ball. I think it comes down to Rev vs Speed?

​@@farvezafridifaizurrahman6980 Revs and speed definitely play into it. More speed generally means less hook (at same revs). More revs generally means more hook (at same speed). I think that basically got to do with how many rotations the ball makes in the 40 or so feet of oil. More rotations on the lane means more hook. Generally. House balls hook better when you bowl slow and spin the heck out of it. If you launch it down the lane, you definitely won't get much hook, because the amount of rotations the ball makes in total is less, since the ball spends less time going down the lane. Slow it down, give it the RPM you want, and it'll hook. If you want to spare with it, and you have a hard time not spinning the ball, then bowl faster and you'll get less hook on it. So yes, you're right. This video by JR highlights that ball "hook" or motion isn't necessarily represented by side-to-side motion, but actually front-to-back. If a ball is hooking earlier, which solid covers are supposed to do, the total amount of hook is dragged out over the length of the lane and overall you won't get a lot of side-to-side hook. A ball the hooks late, that can skid through the whole front and mid parts of the lane, like Pearl balls are supposed to do, hook way more downlane because they haven't started hooking yet when they reach the friction. So they explode all their hook power in a short distance, resulting in a lot of side-to-side hook. So if a ball hooks early, it's a more gradual line, but if it hooks late, it'll be sharper. It's why my aggressive balls look so bad when the lanes are burnt up dry; they're hooking super early and have no steam by the time they get to the friction. I've got a weaker ball that hooks like a beast for this scenario because it keeps it all for the back-end and releases it all then. Front-to-back motion is really the key thing to look for.

Isnt the storm axiom and storm axiom pearl the same ball/core?

Melee series and knock out series, melee is pearl and knock out is solid but same core

So u bowl str8 like up 10?im just tryin to understand the lingo

@@cuanedwards1911 when someone says they play deep it generally means they are playing from middle arrow or more left of that and the outside part of the lane is just the spot on the lane where there is less/no oil

@@xPandora__ oh ok thanks for the clarification

I made a comment above of my Rhino pearl outhooking my Columbia Baller

I have a dv8 turmoil 2 pearl. That thing is an animal. It is the first option out of my bag at one of the houses I bowl in.

A lot of people assume the "strongest" cover equals the most hook. At my home center the amount of friction on the panels burns up most of the big cover bowling balls. Granted low rev speed dominant players sometimes do need the surface. But I will almost never have a top tier performance ball in my hand.

It makes more sense when you describe it front to back. Obviously some balls do have more motion left to right, but a stronger ball hooks sooner, and a weaker ball hooks later. If there's heavy oil, a stronger ball will shape more like what people expect and a weaker ball may hook very little or just fly by where it normally would hook in League. For most house shots, a "strong" ball or a ball with a lot of surface will hook earlier and then roll straighter toward the pocket, where you will find a weaker ball travels farther and then hooks back more dramatically to the pocket, depending on the core and rev rate of course.

@@jeremiegrund dominant* - just trying to help.

So on a fresh leauge pattern, what should u start with,a stronger earlier ball?

Like my omega crux?

@@cuanedwards1911 That's completely dependent on the house and the pattern that they use. On the regular house shot where I bowl, I start out with pearl still because of how the lanes play and because I'm rev dominant. Someone who is speed dominant would probably do better with a stronger solid.

blood red melee jab

Storm trend

I'll second the Trend. That ball is incredibly versatile. It's not usually my first ball out (could be if i put some surface on it), but it's my favorite to throw by far

@@chrisstrong3748 great that’s actually what I was thinking of, but I’m still new to bowling and only bowl in leagues and hope to start doing tournaments soon. I’ve been bowling for like 5 months and my average right now is 185

I'm contemplating getting an Axiom to replace my Hyroad Nano. I've got speed but somewhat lower revs, I tend to line up over 2nd arrow and curve into the pocket. With solid, pearl, and surface to think about, I'm now sure which to get, the Axiom or Axiom pearl.

@@m.cerullo3473 If you like the nano coverstocks, the Axiom is great. I don't really know anything about the Hyroad Nano, but I played the same part of the lane at 18-19mph, about a 250-275 rev rate and the Axiom (pin up) worked pretty well for me. I consistently got it to the pocket, just sometimes needed to change a finger position if I started leaving a 10 pin. I'm a 155 average bowler. First game I bowled in my home alley after I got it was a 243! It can have a pretty hook set reaction if you throw with a low axis tilt and a lot of axis rotation, or it can walk itself right over to the pocket if you lay it down and come up the back a bit more. Really versatile, but a lot straighter and smoother off the backend than my other 2 balls. Once i started slowing my speed down to 16mph, I started needing more length and could finally throw an asym ball (usually threw too fast for them to rev up and do what they do). So now I typically start with a pin down Nuclear Cell, and get the Axiom out if it's moving on the backend too much (read is around the same spot in the mid-lane, but the Nuke continues arcing closer to the pins and jumps left if there's a dry spot, where the Axiom goes a lot straighter to the pocket and ignores any extra stuff in front of the pins). I also have a Trend that i absolutely love. Comes back from anywhere on the lane i want to throw it, gives me miss room left and right, and if i throw with more axis rotation it can shape like the Nuke on the backend or if I come up the back more it can walk in like the Axiom if I've burned a bit of a track for it. Really versatile for me. I can't always throw it first game, but it's the most fun of the 3 I have. I know that's a lot of information that's probably irrelevant, but that's my experience with it and I hope it helps paint a picture of what it does and where it might fit.

I see it more as learning the rule/norm before exceptions. It's how we learn a lot of stuff, just like English languages crazy rules.

Pearl ist better for straight Bowlers.

@@michaeladler2604 thanks for reply brother 🙏🏻

Lol shiny vs dull 👍🏾

Comes down to polish vs no polish... I've sanded down a pearl ball to make it more versatile for how I bowl

Do you ever resurface them? If not they are probably all lane shined and are all about 4700 grit.

You can change hand positions and speed. I can make any ball go hook from getting deep left if I want. You don’t need to go far left unless the lanes ask for that. Maybe if they’re dry it’s obviously a lot easier. So if ur trying to go far left on fresh it won’t work all the time. Not saying you have to go left on the burn all the time

Pearl is for when you need the ball to reach down lane farther. Solids usually deal with heavier oil

You would use asymetrical(or old ball) like IQSolid IF played enough to "smoothen" the fresh pattern. As you go along, oil carries down, you Will be able to transition to more agresive balls.

Shinyness doesn't matter. You can polish up a solid ball for a bit more length, but it still lacks the mica in the pearl coverstock that provides the skid snap motion

@@iceman5117 The absence or not of mica, does not make shinyness irrelevant. Mica provides tha snap motion, not the skid part. The skid part is provided by shinnyness. Also, if shinyness didn't matter , then we would all have polished balls because they look cooler :P Also if i polish a solid ball, it can easily shoot past the breakpoint, so no one can say that surface grit doesn't matter. It's physics. If you take a pearl and bring it down to 1500 (or less), you will not see much (or any) skid/snap even though it has mica.

@@bowlingxp8345 You can't have snap without skid. The mica in a pearl coverstock creates a different surface texture and pore size from solid resin that prevents that ball for hooking up until the dry tail end of the lane. You can polish or sand all you want, you'll never get the front back motion of a solid with a pearl coverstock

@@iceman5117 I never said "you can have snap without skid" , that would be silly. Also i never said we can get 100% the exact motion of a solid with a pearl. (even though a chemical engineer you might be aware of, Roland Hickland who worked for Ebonite, seems to disagree with your statement...). I only said the surface grit matters, and it matters a lot, regardless of cover type. And if your statement is 100% correct, then how do you explain that even in this video, when both balls crossed 20 at the arrows, had the same breakpoint, and the same ball motion (AND result) ? I think you can get quite close to a similar ball motion with 2 balls with same core, same basic cover formula, and one being the pearl version and the other one bring the solid. In fact i had 2 balls like these, and the closer their grit was , the closer their ball motion was. Back then i wasn't into details like that so i never paid too much attention to them. Unfortunately i didn't get the chance to test it properly as one cracked and i gave away the other one.

yes it looks very shiny, that's why at 20 it had the same reaction with the pearl.

Agreed

Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

If a ball doesn't move to pocket enough, make a parallel move left (both feet and target). If it hooks ok, then it was burning up before. If it still doesn't hook or hooks even less, the cover is too weak.

@@bowlingxp8345 thanks for the tip!

Get a Hammer Redemption Hybrid, my average has went from a 185 to a 207 in 8 weeks using it, I can use it all 3 games in league bowling on a 42 foot Stone Street oil pattern... Bowled a 684 tonight with 24 strikes and 5 opens, now I just need to find a spare ball lol

That ball is nearly a decade old already, and believe it or not the covers have changed a lot since then. Highly recommend the hammer pink widow. Same great core as taboo, but little more teeth in the cover. Spec numbers are nearly identical

I thought about getting a pink widow, but it seems most are already sold out of it. If I find one I'll probably grab it up if the price isn't ridiculous.

@@bworm7152 yeah guess I’m not sure if it’s still in current catalogs. Otherwise talk to local pro shop operator to see about their distributors inventory. Company that my center buys from (Bobs Business, Red Wing MN) currently has a TON of recently discontinued rocks for discounted prices. High end stuff for less than 150 drilled

If even our pearl ball is very hard to keep on the lane, then you need a weaker pearl, or a urethane, or more speed, or less axis rotation. Or a solid ball that hooks then goes straight.

Get a weaker pearl ball like a rhino. Always remember to take care of the surface of the ball as well.