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BowTech SOLUTION & SOLUTION SS | First 2021 impressions and review!
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@deadskimountaineer 3 жыл бұрын
I brought a Solution SS home today. It does seem pretty slick already. 60 pounds, 28 inch draw.
@JustDeeOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Solution, almost chose the V3, but went with the BowTech. Mine is factory set at 72 lbs, in performance mode, and to me the draw is not that aggressive. I find it to be rather smooth, from start to almost the end when the valley hits. The V3 shot and felt about the same to me. And we had the V3 set at 77 lbs, straight from the factory. Good video. Thanks.
@johnnylee8818 2 жыл бұрын
I really didn't think the the draw cycle was that rough on the soultions I just bought one this year to me it felt better than the v3 and the rx5 love it
@billieglennbusch2189 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Bear Escape after a friend suggested that speed kills 🙄 . I couldn’t agree more that the draw cycle is not enjoyable and shooting it wears me out, I will get rid of it this year and will absolutely go with comfort over speed. When your cold or have a difficult shot from a stand or blind you don’t want to miss that opportunity because you don’t have that quiet smooth draw. Thanks a lot for the reviews 👍
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
I recently shot the Revolt and it was a fantastic feeling bow. If I was going to buy a brand new bow right now the Revolt/X or Solution SS would be major contenders.
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
@Average Jack Archery, Great review! Thanks for doing it. I'm finally upgrading from my Bowtech General and after checking out Mathews, Elite and Bowtech Revolt X I am looking forward to checking out the Solution tomorrow at my local shop. You've give me some good data points.
@scootertrash647 2 жыл бұрын
I jus bought the SS and I love it for a all around bow,hunting,Target,3d. I'm sure there's other bows that are better in certain areas. But for the average person that has just one bow like myself it's great
@4thepound 3 жыл бұрын
Can you see about getting your hands on a PSE EVO EVL,, Im sure other reviews are sure to come but id be interested in hearing your opinion,,, bout to hit that subscribe,, good job
@shred_alaska 3 жыл бұрын
I love my convergence and it has limb stops
@dannydyer9961 2 жыл бұрын
I have an SS on order from Bowtech as I'm watching this. I think my dream bow would be a Frankenstein of a Revolt X80 with Solution SS cams on it lol
@halfstep67 3 жыл бұрын
The solution bows look pretty good. But as for specs and performance, the reckoning 35 is on my short list. I have a 30" draw so I get good performance out of most anything. I still have my specialist with Barnsdale limbs. It is so hard to give an unbiased report due to the muscle memory an archer builds with their current bow. This makes most everything else fell noticeably different, especially going from one brand to another. Each brand seems to have their signature feel. I do prefer a binary cam system for the tune-ability and the adjustability of the valley and wall. You can have a short twitchy valley or a long deep valley while maintaining the timing and nock travel.
@gmatthewpaul 8 күн бұрын
The solution is Awsome at 29 comfort
@wcwcgarner2717 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot a 32 inche axle to axle bow. The Bear Paradox ibo is 330 fps. 55 to 70 pounds. Qad drop away. Two stabilizers Trophy ridge hitman in the front and a Apex side mount and a Trophy ridge hitman rear. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 sight. Trupeep sight and a kisser button. I do not need strings yet. But getting them. Soon.great channel. Your the Dr Phil of bows.
@chrississon2646 3 жыл бұрын
Just plopped some money down on a SS today , great shooting bow , enjoy your vids n reviews
@anthonyhopkins7292 3 жыл бұрын
How would you rate these two bows against the two new Hoyts that you tested? Which would be your go to bow out of the four bows?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
In order of what I'd take to the woods... 1. Solution SS 2. Ventum 3. RX5 4. Solution
@LifeisGood-ye8rl 3 жыл бұрын
Some years ago when I first gotten into archery, now I was shooting trad bows then but even then I’ve heard terrible things about bow tech amongst shooters at my club with bowtech being rhymed with Blowtech. I wonder if such reputation still hold?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! That was a lb manufacturer issue they had for about 2 years in the 2014-2016 era especially. It's has long since been rectified and we don't see those kinds of issues anymore on BowTechs.
@silentassassin1108 2 жыл бұрын
Me decision is narrowed down to the solution as and the pse evo evl. Hopefully get to shoot both this weekend.
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting Bowtech/Diamond for almost 6 months now and the best thing I like about them is how they can put a ton of adjustability and a nice cam and yolk system for a low price. I think they're rivaling with PSE on ease of use with price, and in fact, I was deciding between PSE and Diamond for my first bow, but I decided to choose Diamond because of the price at the time. It has since raised to 349 for the bow I shoot compared to around 270-290, so if you're thinking of getting into archery with a beginners bow, might want to buy it sooner rather than later because the price might increase. Another thing I like about Bowtech/Diamond (Bowtech owns Diamond) is their warranty, and lifetime warranties are really nice :). Warranties are also compared between PSE and Bowtech with PSE offering 100% coverage up to 5 years after the bow was purchased with 50% coverage every year after that, which is also nice :)
@billmcstay194 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you.
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@heatherhurley3853 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, being that the solution is a new bow. I recently purchased one, strictly based off youtube reviews and reviews on google, anyway using a qad ultra bowtech drop away rest, which is irrelevant. I cant get my fletchings to clear my bus cables, and finding center shot has deemed difficult as well do to cables. Have you or anyone you’re aware of had this issue. If i push the cams over it creates hard cam lean. Anyway please respond with any input please, btw my local shop could not get to the bottom of it either.
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
One part I'll troubleshoot with is the berger holes on the newer BowTech bows is LOW. Like much lower than any I've seen before. I actually set the rest for the arrow to be in the top half of the hole and not covering the hole like most bows. This of course will allow you to be closer to the cable guard and will give more Fletch clearance. What kind of Fletch are you shooting? Just a normal Blazer?
@heatherhurley3853 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery yes regular blazers
@hammercg59vet70 3 жыл бұрын
Ya you would probably trade your kure in
@pythonithon5916 3 жыл бұрын
Bows are personal. If he likes his elite, he should keep it. Just because it looks cool or is newer doesn't mean its better (or worse).
@daviddenney8969 3 жыл бұрын
Sr6 smoother in performance
@dillon9147 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering is your draw 30”?
@irodfishingcanada1326 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was smoother in performance also. 29” draw
@erikleirmo9147 2 жыл бұрын
Question of the Day Solution SS or Eliete Enkore? Need smooth more than anything 2 pins in my shoulder
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Solution SS would be my pick there.
@erikleirmo9147 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery thanks for your input
@andrewbean5163 3 жыл бұрын
Nate, curious to see what you think of the PSE EVO? I bought a EVO NTN 33 last year and I'm just now going though the set up process and wondering what your think?
@andrewbean5163 3 жыл бұрын
I am too 6'4" so I'm in need of a 31+ draw length so last year it didn't seem like there were many options without going to some Long Draw bow
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I have to travel a bit to get to a lot of other dealers outside of the videos I've already posted. PSE is one of them. Hopefully I can make it out in the next weekend or so to give them a go!
@jackbuendgen389 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion bowtech dropped the ball this year. They have a solution SD for short guys like me (I think they mishandled that bow also). Why didn't the make the SS at a 34 ata that goes to 33-34" draw and call it the solution LD?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Not all of us are 6'9". ;)
@austinn8208 3 жыл бұрын
Is ATA length really a significant factor to consider? I recently demo’d an elite remedy thinking for sure I was going to buy it and ended up trying a solution ss as well without knowing anything about it. I was shocked by good it was! The Remedy is also really good too.I think I’d buy the SS but I am hung up on this idea that the extra length of the Elite is somehow better for stability, and accuracy. I want something I can hunt everything with and maybe even shoot some local 3D tournaments with.
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
ATA goes also hand In hand with draw length. The longer the length, the more acute the string angle and peep height. For short bows and long draws (29.5 and up) it can be a big pain. For shorter draws, 28 and under especially, string angle is less severe and shorter bows will play nicer. So ATA becomes less of a factor and bows like the SS can suit you very well!
@keithdodson7536 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Very well said i think way too many people never take this into consideration before they purchase a bow.. So many think 29 to 31 in ATA is the best for all bowhunters people need to buy a bow that fits them considering string angle for consistantcy.👍🏹
@gladegoodrich2297 3 жыл бұрын
They keep changing so you guys will keep buying! A friend of mine shoots a 40 year old cheap bow, kills more deer than me and my latest greatest PSE.
@BOOMER-rs5qn 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you're saying but if guys don't buy new archery gear every now and then, the bow companies would go out of business.
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
just out of curiosity Nate, if you had to change to another brand for bow that's not elite, what brand would you choose?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I REALLY like limb stops. Like REALLY like them. So it would preferably be a company that offered those.
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery hmm only bow company I know that does that off of hand is elite 😅. I'm glad you like limb stops though 🤣😂
@robertloomis8490 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Amen to limb stops.I’m a die hard Prime guy and not a fan of them switching to cable with the Black series and Nexus
@TheAllankuz 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertloomis8490 I thought the same but after shooting the Black5 a few times with other bows last year, I went with the cable-stop Black5. I discovered the specs of the Black5 just fit me extremely well, the string angle is perfect for my frame and I got use to the cable stops enough to have my best year of 3d and shot very true during hunting season.
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that I like how limb stops feel, however my Prime Black 1 feels so stinkin solid I don’t know what kind of magic they put into their cable stops.
@leafinitup1 Жыл бұрын
Is the 332FPS speed advertised on the SS on the regular comfort setting, or is that the performance setting? Thanks
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
Performance.
@leafinitup1 Жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery that’s unfortunate. I’d love to find a bow with that shootability that’s a little bit faster. Thanks for the reply.
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
@@leafinitup1 Yeah have to go with a shorter brace height to get speed with a smooth cam. Athens Elevate for 2023 has a 6" brace and is churning out some great speeds with a very smooth cam. Same could be said of the Elite Omnia with the smooth mods.
@deeannruiter5039 2 жыл бұрын
Jack. I have an SS and once setup the strings come into the sight picture quite a bit at full draw. Is there anything I can do fix that or at least improve?
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
The flexing roller of the SS and others aren't very forgiving when it comes to this as it really flexes in towards the arrow at full draw. Unfortunately I don't have a good fix for this because of it.
@scotth5978 2 жыл бұрын
New shooter here - Right hand/left eye dominant needing a 60lb max LH bow with 29 DL. Would the slower speed of the SS still work well for eastern whitetails from 40 yards or less for a tree stand? I’ve shot the Solutions and the newer SR350 - both are great. I’d imagine the SS is even better if I can afford less speed.
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 29/60 with the SS would be PLENTY for Eastern whitetails.
@scotth5978 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Awesome. Keep the videos coming - learning a lot everyday. Thanks!
@scotth5978 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery from your experience- LH bow would be the way to start back into bow hunting after a 25 year departure? I’ve had mixed reviews online but I would imagine the lack of depth perception/not being able to follow your arrow/less low light for all be reasons enough to try to train myself LH. RH is easier and more DW but would need to close my left eye unless there are other options.
@Simon-iq1yl 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotth5978 I'm facing a similar situation - RH, 30 years since last shooting, but now right eye has blurry double vision. I would say I'm not too far off being ambidextrous though, but lack of LH equipment is alway troublesome. My plan is to try both ways at a pro shop - unfortunately in Australia so stock levels of LH inadequate to test LH bows of choice. Even contemplating getting a Gearhead Disrupter which can swap LH and RH and has a large range of draw lengths and weights.
@9Escalibore 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you asked this question. I'm also a new shooter and you situation matches mine exactly. Expecting a delivery of my SS any day now, if UPS can deal with snow.
@dougfriendt8906 2 жыл бұрын
How much of a problem is the SS 30" ATA for a long draw shooter like you? I have a 30" DL and like everything about the SS except the ATA.
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the short ATA. Don't like anything shorter than 33" really for my long draw.
@dougfriendt8906 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Thanks for the reply. But you did really like the way the Solution SS shot, even with it's 30" ATA, correct?
@Oculus729 2 жыл бұрын
30-inch ATA for the SS is the only reason I do not own one. Imagine a world where the SS has the 34-inch ATA.
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed that's a 2022 offering...
@crdavis61 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Any chance you have shot the Revolt X..........thoughts?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
The Revolt X was a very solid bow platform. Not my favorite overall BowTech offering, but certainly a winner over many others in its time.
@crdavis61 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarcheryWhat is your favorite Bowtech Bow? I had a Bowtech Prodigy, then went to Elite and back to Mathews. I loved the Prodigy and it shot great but would loose its tune and without a press was a pain. Now I have a press and everything you need to work on bows so was thinking about trying bow tech again as I loved the draw cycle of the Prodigy and I shot it well.
@DBZSTAY 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 30.5 inch draw and I’m thinking about getting the ss and I was wondering if u think the bow is to short for me or will it still work ok or should I try the elite remedy
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the bow felt and shot, but that short string angle was too much for me. If they make a 33-35 ATA model next year I'm going to be hard pressed not to own one. Lol
@DBZSTAY 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery thank u I appreciate it but I’m sort of used to a 30 ATA bow I’ve been shooting one for the last 6 years but I did notice I didn’t shoot quite as good as the one I had prior it was 33 ATA
@DownSouthBassin 3 жыл бұрын
would the 8 in bee stinger be a good stabilizer for the ss or is that too long?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great! 👍
@johnhusenitaii7001 3 жыл бұрын
I really want the bowtech solution. I like bowtech. However most archers hate bowrech and not sure why. The bow shop near me keeps trying to shove the new mathews v3 or pse ntn down my throat. Any opinions on this matter.
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Not a clue. If they have the BowTech in store IDK why they wouldn't want to sell it or care what you buy. I'd sell whatever the customer wants!
@johnhusenitaii7001 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery they don't carry bowtech at all. They only carry hoyt mathews and pse
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhusenitaii7001 Oh well they can't sell or get you the BowTech if they're not a dealer for them. That's true of any manufacturer for any shop. Not a dealer? Can't sell their bows.
@ramos208 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, solution is a hard draw for me
@adammeade8132 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Football do you use from elite
@adammeade8132 3 жыл бұрын
Bow
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I own the Kure and Rezult.
@Angel.Custodio 3 жыл бұрын
How would you compare the draw cycle to the Revolt?
@Angel.Custodio 3 жыл бұрын
The SS compared to the Revolt.
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I like the SS more I think but I also haven't shot the Revolt in a while.
@that1indianak267 2 жыл бұрын
Correction.. the Indigenous creation. Not godss
@oldgravylegs2458 3 жыл бұрын
Can you review the bowtech carbon zion
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
I shot one. It’s not much different at all than the carbon icon. The grip is a little different. The grip felt big but comfortable. It didn’t hold as steady as an aluminum bow because of how light it is and how narrow the limbs are. Draw cycle at 28.5” was firm but smooth. It liked to jump forward on the shot due to being so light weight. The Revolt felt better in every way except overall weight.
@oldgravylegs2458 3 жыл бұрын
@@stick__shooter thank you
@plram3054 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a bow off the year?
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a top contender for 2021!
@darrenlaumeyer5079 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I am going to buy a new bowtech. Once I have my center shot set up and the bow is tuned with field points. When I go to tune to my broadheads....do I use the deadlock on the cams....or do I still just move the rest?? Thanks
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Like with Elite's SET tech, here's how I tune the modern Bowtech's and their DeadLock system: Set rest to 13/16" center shot. Shoot through paper. Adjust for vertical tear with rest. Adjust for horizontal tear through paper with DeadLock. Leave rest at 13/16. Bam. Bullet hole. This is what I do with the SET technology on my Elite's with amazing performance.
@darrenlaumeyer5079 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery ok, cool. But now my question is...say I shoot fixed blade broadheads. And I shoot them and they aren't hitting with my field points. From there.....do I tune with the deadlock cams, or with the rest? I am assuming with the rest...as in most cases in the past, I wouldn't twist the yokes or shim just for broadhead tuning.
@haimzamir4361 3 жыл бұрын
@Darren isn’t tuning by moving the rest more range-specific?
@EmergeFromTheAshes1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what ya mean by most archers hate bowtech ? They sell tons of them. They just dont sponsor as many hunting shows like mathews does. I've been shooting bows for almost 20 years...own the v3 and it doesnt impress me as much as a SS. The v3 has one of the worst draw cycles I've saw come out in the last 5 years or so. 65 pounds feels like 80 on the stupid thing. I owned a prodigy at 80 pounds and it was easier to draw than the V3. I tried other V3s to see if it was just mine...nope they were all horrible to draw. Great on the shot sont get me wrong but when you have heavy clothing on and are in a weird position when a big buck comes out you'll be much more worried about getting the bow drawn vs how dead the shot was lol.
@fivicskoreaX10 3 жыл бұрын
goood!
@truebluebroadheads5302 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my name is Max. I’m one of the owners of True Blue Broadheads out of Australia. We are looking to partner and team up with people like yourself doing quality product reviews. What we have is almost unheard of internationally. It’s called the Elite Crossbreed If your interested message me here please. Kind regards, Max
@ThePatriotParadox 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..I hate this carona virus....now more bow reviews I guess
@keefer88 3 жыл бұрын
crap.... i watched this inside
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