I have never been happier as a boat owner until recently with my purchase of a Suzuki df200ap and having a reliable and skilled dealer nearby. Quiet & efficient from the start and I am counting on reliability down the line. Agree with others that not having a Suzuki shop local to you could be a deciding factor. Good video.

Good point about the lithium batteries. I’m running an Ionic 125 Lithium battery on my 250SS and had zero issues with charging the battery while running 4 12 inch graphs. However, I will randomly get some fault codes that don’t correspond to anything specific and quickly clear once started. But I had the same issue when running a group 31 AGM as well.

I’ve been rigging boats for 35 years and when you compare outboards you have to throw in the weight of the outboard especially with today’s four strokes. I also like to throw in the rpm max limits and gear ratios. Other than these few things it was a good fair comparison. Appreciate it.

Thanks for the VERY enjoyable comparison between the 2 best 4 stroke motors out. I went with the Yamaha Sho but if I had any hiccups in getting one I would have gladly put the Ss Suzuki on my new boat forsure. Got the 115 sho and might upgrade to 150 sho or ss in near future.

I have looked online and here on KZfaq for rigging options for a new suzuki df90a. It would be awesome if you could make a video on this. Love your videos, I find them clear and very informative. Thanks

Thanks mate

I own a Yamaha, but love the looks of that Suzuki! I really don't believe you could go wrong with either one, both are high quality machines.

nice fight intro love it good work

The INTRO was PRICELESS !!

Tracy West. I just hit 100 hrs on my 250 SS and I love the motor.

You should have put the price in the battle 👍👍👍

U have answered my question Suzuki is what I go to buy a 115 or 90 thanks for the info on motors. Keep up the awesome work you are doing 💯💯💯💯💯💯👍👍👍

I saw you outside today Andy! was down at La Crosse for college mlf event

Hello Andy .Thank you for the Informative and Entertaining video. I currently run a 90 Evinrude 200 XP on my 91 STRATOS 201 Pro Elite Dual Console. Runs like a Champ But , I would like to Run a New Suzuki SS on my STRATOS but , Unfortunately At this time Suzuki Doesn't make a V-6 200 Or 225 SS. I don't know if my STRATOS would handle the Suzuki 250 SS ? Anyway Great Brand Battle. Keep them coming 👍

I haven't seen one single Suzuki outboard on Lake Guntersville yet when I'm out fishing. Maybe in a few more years. Do see more of them now down in Orange Beach/Gulf Shores area. But Yamaha is still by far and away the outboard of choice for that area also. I'm still running my '89 Merc 135 double smoker! Powerhead replaced in '06, so probably getting ready for a rebuild shortly. 😁

Lmao!!! Love tour videos. As mentioned by another post...What is the price difference between the two?

I appreciate your reviews. Even if there is a slight bias toward Suzuki, I believe it is totally warranted. I bought a boat with twin 150 Etecs, and though they are good (start as soon as you turn the key, and that was after 4 months of sitting), I would still like to repower with Suzuki. The only reason I haven't done so yet is because I want a bigger boat, which will require more power.

I’ve had experience with both brands and honestly can’t go wrong with either in my opinion. I’ve had low and high pressure fuel pumps go out in the Suzuki granted I had that motor for 13 years but nothing yet on the Yamaha. I will have to say the torque I get from the sho is crazy good. I have a 18 ft G3 bay with a 90 sho and have found the perfect prop. I’m getting 47mph from a Powertech 19 pitch 3 blade prop and that’s impressive! Have you guys experimented with that brand yet? And I’m wondering if I could hit 50mph with a jack plate?

I haven’t had any trim or power head since 2008!

Definitely enjoyed the battle!!!! Question, is there any ECU Flashing available for Suzuki like Nizpro etc for Yamaha? Thanks

Love my new matte black 250 SS but still trying to prop it. Running a 24 scorpion, 6050 rpm at 63 mph. Main complaint is the hole shot is sluggish

CAN YOU BRAND BATTLE THE 200 CLASS FOR 2022-SHO VS SS VS PRO XS

I've been waiting for this one. Great review! For long term reliability, Suzuki is the way to go. The styling on the new SHO looks great and is probably better for resale. These are the only two outboard brands I'd consider for a bass boat.

I am probably going to re-power my 17ft aluminum Triton. I currently have a 50 HP Mercury 2stroke. I wish Suzuki made a 75 HP cause I would go straight to that. Which would you say get as far as power (Hole shot/Top end) and reliability: Suzuki 70hp or Yamaha 75hp?

I know I can look it up but what are the dry weights of the Suzuki and the Yamaha? Thanks. Love the content, as always.

Hey. I live up here in northern Canada and have only a honda and merc dealer. I boat in remote areas where you can be 4-6 hours away from the dock. Which 225 motor would never let you down??? Get you home every time? Thks

I used to get about 4000-5000 hours on 200 or 250 Yamahas! And almost the same with Suzuki. Both are really good.

I still want to see a review of the 150 HP Suzuki

Off subject outside realm of another awesome over/under. Watch them all at least once. Lol. . So my question is. Would injectors dirty cause 07 mercury pro xs 250 to start climbing outta the hole slower ? Runs great good compression and all but I can tell a big difference. No prop changes either. Input shaft good. No. Play. I also heard possibly needing to adjust the WOT. But I can’t find exactly what that should be. Seems folks have different opinions. Any idea on where I could look. I like fixing my own so I can become as familiar as possible with the motor. Thanks again. You guys rock.

How about the smaller 100 hp range motors??

I have a 250ss suki. Love it, zero problems. I have one issue. I run flats boat (majek M2 22) at south padre island Tx. Water pickup is above prop level and water pressure drops on running skinny flats. Yamaha has lower water intake. Any fix for this? Aftermarket scoop pickup?

Great video, but, I have gone to probably 20-30 dealerships and have yet to see one that sells Suzuki. So for service, most will be hard pressed to find a dealer. Yamaha is has many more, something that IMHO is more important that aesthetics.

I have a 2001 Tr21 want to upgrade to a 4 stroke 250 what would you suggest thank you!

Based on what I've heard from salt guys, guys running them now and what I've seen you guys talk about and list price, my next boat will probably have a Suzuki on it

I need some help with a boat order. Just ordered a 24’ shallow sport with a Suzuki 250SS TL3 the dealer offered me a new unsold Suzuki DF300 APL2 at the same price same 5yr warranty. What’s the better buy of the two?

Got a friend that has a charter business in Port St Joe Florida (inshore) and his Yamaha blew up within a month or so after his 3 year warranty ran out. Went out and bought a new Suzuki and has 0 regrets with it. Runs like a champ. If I were to buy a new boat I would request the Suzuki for sure.

2 things we all know about Andy, he loves Suzuki and hates Nitros 😂

You mentioned warranty. In your experience which brand best stands behind their warranty? 3 or 5 years don't mean squat if they don't take care of thier customers when a warranty issue arises.

Please make a video on shadow bass boats

Glad I'm still running a 2 stroke 25 years and still kickin'

What about weight? I’m running a 98’ Stratos 201 Pro Elite. Weight is a big deal to me when the day comes I have to repower.

Plus you can put a bolt on SuperCharger on the SHO will put it at 450 hp

I will follow you into the mist of Avalon Andy... Riding majestic, translucent steeds shooting flaming arrows across the bridge of Hemdale

I love the matte finish! I wish all the manufacturers would have this option. Sick of the shiny shit that looks 10 years old after the first season.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! The Honda VTEC 250 VS. any MERCURY 4 stroke

whats your thoughts on the yam 175 vmax?

I have a 23 250 SS on my 210 starcraft fishmaster Max throttle trimmed I'm at 5600rpm 46/47mph Have a 16" diameter 3 blade 18.5 pitch watergrip prop Any recommendations?

Just got a new zuk, number 4. PRICE AND WARRANTY got me to buy again. My 1996 dt115 lasted 20 years after 3 computers burned and corrosion issues.

I want to see a 225 battle. Mainly because I have a 99 opti on my boat and I want a sho but I hear they have power head failure. 225 pro xs vs 225 sho vs 225 suzuki

what about the price between the two?

No mention of price? I’m sure it differs but suzys are cheaper in So. Illinois. Great video nonetheless!

Who wins in your guys' opinion?

whenever i need to laugh and learn, i go to this channel lol

for complements, this 20 hp i have in 330cm rubberboat, so when i am alone my speed is around 50 km/h, before in yamaha was 30/35 max

What about price....

I've owned both, but I can't make a fair comparison since my Suzuki was OLD when I started with it. My current bay boat is Yamaha and I love it for reliability. It gets me to my fishing spot and gets me home every time. On the Chesapeake, that's the #1 priority. You lose an engine out here, your drift puts you somewhere in Europe a month later.

What brand battle do you want to see next?

I own brand new suzuki 200hp 23ft center console boat,before mercury verado 300L6. Suzuki awesome...

Who has better customer service???

Hi, I alredy have Suzuki df20, i had a lot of thinhs in my mind what i have to choice and... first - in the same money Suzuki is on efi, Yamaha on normal carbulator, thanks for movie and showed if everybody pay only for brand not for quality ::D

150ss vs 150vmax vs 150proxs!

Yamaha by land, Suzuki by sea!

🤣😂🤣Thanks man for the honest view.

we have Yamaha and Suzuki 150hp, 40hp, 75hp, 300hp, 225hp, 250hp, 400hp, 90hp, 200hp, 100hp, 115hp, all 4 stroke Let me know if you’re interested getting one for your boat

🤣 oh man 0:39 is so good!

Cost comparison

You forgot cost. Initial cost, (like the price on a new boat on the lot) And repower cost.

I've tried calling twice and left messages. Trying get prices on a new 225 or 250 Suzuki for my Champ. Yet to get a call back. Kinda ironic after watching all of Andy's boat reviews, don't ya think 🤔

Andy, you just have a man crush on Suzuki. No need to make these brand battles when Suzuki is included. We know who’s winning 😂

Such a good battle! Both are great outboards and are far better then any Mercury junk

$$$ Price difference???

What, no price comparison?

You say you done a lot more gear casings on the SHO vs the SS. Well that’s not really fair at all cause you don’t work on NEAR as many SS’s vs SHO’s. Suzuki biased I see and I’m sorry but the SLOWSUKI is 1990’s boring! There’s nothing to that motor so how can it look better?

Do you guys have a speed money and no brakes decal?

You forgot to mention dealer network and the fact the Yamaha 200-250 is a detuned 335hp motor and can easily be flashed for higher HP. Also, timing chain vs. timing belt.

Weight wise the Suzuki is a lot heavier then the sho, but it is really really close

I’m looking at a new Suzuki or a mercury 60hp anyone have any insight?

Suzuki needs to enlarge their dealer network in my area. Merc dominates in my area. That's a huge factor as much as I like Suzuki.

Small suzukis, 25-30hp (ish). Have you seen or heard from any longevity issues with the aluminum con-rods? I haven't heard anything, I am not trying to cast a doubt or smear. Just curious, as the use of aluminum conrods surprised me.

Why not a cost comparison, and mention the price ???

150ss vs 150vmax

When stock, none will give you more speed and torque than my AMERICAN MADE Mercury!!!! And when I finally get it back from the shop after the motor mount boats backing out of it with only 20 hours on the engine I’ll prove it!! 😂 For real though, Mercury got the speed and torque part down. My next boat will have a Yahama on it,

Honda\merc. Winner battles Zuk. I'm on the west coast so I'm an offshore\ saltwater guy.

What boat do you run Andy? 😁

If you mentioned cost, I missed it. Pay a LOT more for Yamaha.

How many people comment stuff like “just got my Suzukis and love them, or 100 hours and I love them, Etc.. The REALITY is that come back at 400 hours, or higher, and see. Those Yamahas are WAY more dependable. And virtually ANYWHERE you go you will have a Yamaha service center, and you will be trying to find someone to work on Suzuki’s. Also, in the resale market, (and everybody eventually finds themselves here, come on you know) the Suzuki’s KILL the resale value of your boat. So this is not to say that Suzukis are a POS, they aren’t, but you have to be real. The little bit of money you may save in the beginning…there’s a reason for that, it will come back and haunt you on the resale market. Think.

I like “trim”

The SHO is a pure badass as everyone knows, but all things considered along with price, the suzuki is a better value.

I want to trade my merc 150 for a slowzuki 150

should have thrown in price!!!!

SHO for the win. But if you want to go slow, don't buy the SHO. 250 SHO has more horsepower than the Suzuki, and a better gear ratio(1.75) in the lower. Might I add that the new Suzuki looks outdated. Keeping it real.

I’ve heard from several Marinas that Suzuki not only doesn’t cover warranty but blames the customer for all motor issue to not have to pay for the repairs. Yamaha on the other covers everything even when it’s the customer’s fault. One owner said Yamaha covers a bent shaft even though the customer ran aground. A guarantee is only as good as the company willing to back. “If you want me to take a shit in a box and stamp it “guaranteed” I will. I’ve got spare time!”

Given that the Yamaha F150 is a top seller, I’d love to see a review against the new 2022 Suzuki DF150AP against the Yamaha 150. Big changes this year.

There is no way susucky is even on the same planet as Yamaha

I don't think that you can go wrong with either motor.

As long as Suzuki doesn’t use there street bike technology they will be a 3rd class engine.The only way Suzuki could sell motors is to offer to dealers is to sell them engine at HP lower price. That being 250hp at 200 hp price. And so on down the list. Honda and Suzuki will never be close to the big two. When you have to under price your product to get it in market you have a big problem

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What about the price comparison between the two?

When will Yamaha produce a fuel injected kicker outboard (9.9 & 15 HP)? Suzuki has been producing them for years. I'm sick of waiting for Yamaha to get with the program.

I appreciate the comparison but could do without all the theatrics. But that's just me.