Dan's story of him getting sucked into the plot of one of his stories, should actually be him getting sucked into the craziest, most insane food-heist ever.

I want to see a Brandon Sanderson gets sucked into a Dan Wells story/Dan Wells gets sucked into a Brandons Sanderson story. They have some way of communicating with each other, but it's not constant. They are trying to help each other while trying to survive/navigate as well.

Brandon is inspired to write Mistborn when he starts ingesting various metals.

"Movies depict either the highly successful bestseller, or the tortured person working on a masterpiece for 20 years and hasn't published it yet" so what I'm hearing is that we need a Pat Rothfuss movie since he's both of those XD

Douglas Adams was another author who was sent to a hotel room when the publisher needed a draft finished. He often quoted "I love deadlines. I particularly love the whoosh they make as they fly by".

Years and years of typing a blank page is the real horror story

That Robert Jordan story of writing in a hotel with a line of people processing the story as he went is BONKERS! Can't imagine the stress.

27:15 there is a similar story about the show runner of Leverage (Blanking on his name, sorry) being approached by government agencies because in research he/his writers had found a loophole of some sort the agencies didnt want to have advertized.

around 10:30 Brandon mentions the two types of authors who get depicted... but in reality, they're both just George R R Martin

That summer camp bridge four idea is pure gold.

I would love to read a non canonical story or maybe series of stories of what Sanderson does if he gets dropped off in each one of the Cosmere worlds. I feel like he knows more than enough secrets to start taking over things quickly! Just walks around on Scadrial until he finds that place he hid some Lerasium lol.

I love the fact that Brandon is obviously on a first name basis with Neil, George, and Steven lol

The Brandon lone author story involves him making the decision that he would want to write even if it never made him any money, and it doesn't. At the end, he has to give a guest lecture at the BYU class taught by hit, super-celebrity author Dan Wells (for whatever reason) and part of the lecture is him saying that this is a valid choice and he's still happy to be writing.

Regarding the "author searches weird stuff", Jim Butcher has two different stories about getting contacted by the CPD and the FBI respectively because of stuff related to his writing.

I always enjoy seeing the Shallan doll Janci gifted over Dan's left shoulder. Could the Adolin doll be moved to be over his other shoulder? That would be fun.

This is the first podcast I've ever really enjoyed-- watching you two chit-chat is surprisingly entertaining and I find myself going back to earlier episodes to catch up on what I missed. Keep it up!

This touches on a topic I think a lot about which is what sorts of professions can your characters have and still have the freedom to do all the things you want them to do in your story. The average Joe working a full time job and living paycheck to paycheck doesn't have time to go running all over Europe looking for his true love or the man that killed his wife. The common cliche is to just make them wealthy or a novelist but I'm always looking for more interesting professions. Thrillers/action/adventure have this a bit easier in that they can just be a secret agent or pirate or drug smuggler or what have you where them doing their job IS the story but for other types of stories, you have more limited options.

"Person who gets sucked into cool fantasy world. Now here's how they deal with it" sounds like a manga title

I once played a Dungeons and Dragons character who secretly believed that their life events were so unrealistic, the only possible explanation was that they were a protagonist in a story. The world, the Gods, everyone in the universe was created by some overseer who for some reason kept throwing this character and their friends into these wierd situations... I would like to see a Brandon Sanderson story kinda like that - where he goes into let's say Stormlight, and meets the characters in there and they find out the reason the world is the way it is, is because Brandon thought it would make for a compelling narrative...

Absolutely loved the brainstorming session ar the end!

"Nobody wants us..." Well...I would want at least SOME of you at my fancy party. Howard Tayler, you have an open invite to all my summer BBQs. We're roasting steak and pineapple over the fire pit next week. It's going to be great.

Brandon’s loner/tortured artist one could be called “Night Oddit”

An isekai with Brandon sucked into his own bokks will be an amazing excuse to use inside knowledge to get OP as many light novels do in isekai.

Dan’s story about how Bridge 4 formed is great

“How’s that Ben?” Is becoming a favorite catchphrase.

As a hotel night clerk that enjoys writing, Brandon's tortured loner hit way too close to home lol.

As to entering into a fantasy world; personally I think Joel Rosenberg did it best in Guardians of the Flame with the college D&D game being DM'd by the ethics professor who is actually a wizard in hiding after losing The Mage War on Fantasy World.

the not acknowledging how long it takes to write a book in movies and TV shows is so true. like in Once upon a time where the Author just writes an entire book in one afternoon, I laughed so hard at that. and the characters act like it's perfectly normal too, lol

"this is as good as it gets " kinda has a lonely tortured romance author in Jack Nicholson's character

"In the Mouth of Madness" a movie about a best selling authors agent 😆 and the author is insane!

Favorite episode so far

Things I learned from this episode: CHAUCER was the author in a Knights Tale?! Christopher paolini was stuffed into a hotel to finish the Eragon series Dan would absolutely find himself in the middle of a food heist I need to hear what Danno and Brando have to say about Top Gun Maverick

A thousand thank yous for your insights.

3:48 😃 YES!! 😅 I was immediately hoping you'd reference that old short film, "George Lucas In Love"!

@Brandon In a podcast episode back in Feb you mentioned wanting to explore a zombie apocalypse story where children are immune. As I was listening to the episode I recalled a storyline in the golden compass books with that EXACT premise. The recent live action series (His Dark Materials) also covered this plotline and did an AMAZING job with it. Would highly recommend it.

Finding Forrester gave us "You're the man now, dawg." So it belongs in the top lists just for that.

I'd be curious if they've seen the American Horror Story where the screenwriter takes a special pill that makes him pump out masterpieces quickly but also turns him into a vampire, and the publisher loves it. And it turns out Quentin Tarantino also used the pill

New Food Heist alert: Search for this- 5,000 peaches stolen from Yamanashi orchard.

The *Haunter of the Dark* is my favorite of the "author dumped into his own genre" stories. H.P. Lovecraft wrote the story (featuring one Robert Blake, horror writer) as a sequel and response to Robert Bloch's *Shambler from the Stars* (which featured it's own not-so-subtle Lovecraft cameo :)

My head SWIVELED when I heard Mira Grant. LoveloveLOVE Mira(Seanan)'s work! Feed was a work of art!

I look forward to Dan's book about a screenwriter writing a script about an author writing a book, which features Dan's inaccurate assumptions about the lives of screenwriters and common screenwriters' inaccurate assumptions about the lives of authors.

This reminds me when I've seen You're the Worst. Don't know if it's realist, but definetly belivable

The one time I have seen an author who is just mid-range is in 2012. The author is a limo driver as his day job, and I find that hilarious. I just love 2012 and Roland Emmerich.

I saw an "author gets into wacky hijinks" movie with Kevin James several years ago. I was surprised by how much I liked it

Alternate tortured artist Dan story: he commits actual murders to get firsthand experience to help his writing, then he starts murdering people who criticize him, and he gets caught AND his writing never takes off.

Now I need a heist movie where the heist is stealing Brandon's Magic card collection.

The fastest working authors, ones who write 4 extra books in 2 years

One thing you should also discuss is "Authors past their prime". Do you ask yourself if you still have the knack to write an original story? Or if it is not original a common material in a new interesting way?

Charlize Theron did a movie a few years back called “Young Adult” where she played the type of mid-level writer I think Brandon is talking about. In it she is working as a ghost writer on a popular book series for tweens.

My favorite Isakai is that movie where the guy got hit by a bus and woke up in a world without the Beatles

Douglas Adams was also locked in a hotel in order for him to write So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

Dan Wells creating 30 second ads for paper towels and energy drinks, but every ad has weird supernatural elements creeping in

That was my thought as well, I loved Romancing the Stone!

Absolutely love what Brandon says @37:54

Regarding Dan's idea about a thriller author plotting at the behest of terrorists, I believe Lee Goldberg did something like that for his Ian Ludlow thrillers. He (Ian) was part of a group of writers who scenarioed a terrorist attack that later came true.

Dan gets sucked into his own story: He works on his magnum opus, truly trying to get into the mind space of a brutal murderer, until he takes it just a step too far and discovers he has a yearning to commit the atrocities his fictional character has so gleefully enacted.

What does the Great Gatsby count as? Does the author get sucking into a real life story? Is he lonely and depressed? Or is he being inspired to write a great story? Maybe all of the above?

Dan should go the Zero G route. He wakes up from cryo sleep in a ship destined for another planet. Can’t remember how he got there but enjoys the fact that everyone is still reading is book. Or goes the Demolition man route and it turns out books about murder are illegal in the future.

Brandon Sanderson in a Reckoner's novel, exactly as he described the inspiration for Reckoners. Cut off in traffic, thinks "you're lucky I can't blow up your car", then Calamity turns on. A story told from the perspective of an Epic who was previously a really nice guy as he tracks down and kills his family, friends, and any fans that might be able to guess his weakness.

This makes me think about the Beatles song Paper Back Writer.

Adoooonalsiiiiium

Seeing Brandon and Dan talk at normal speed is so weird. I see all their episodes at 2x and they sound natural even when sped up!

2:25 well shit thats my key character trait 😂😂. But I dont feel that being lonely in anyway connects to me being a writer.

Stranger Than Fiction was so good.

Thank you for making me aware of George Lucas In Love. Loved it.

Here is my torture take for Brandon. A man considers himself Brandons arch nemesis because, according to him, he came up with the Stormlight Archive first and was robbed of the idea. After being alienated by all his friends and family because no one believed that SA was his idea, the man decides to kidnap Brandon for 1 year which will give him the time to finish publishing his book and convince eveyone that he isn't a fraud. Brandon is clearly freaked out by the situation, more so because he won't be able to write for a whole year, but he keeps his calm and waits to be rescued while the man writed his book. This calm is later shattered when he realizes that the man is just a delusional fan with no writing skills that read the Stormlight Archive and wanted to be the one that came up with the idea. Even worse, the man completely believes in his delusion and his frustration keeps mounting up when he can't write even a single chapter of the book. To be continued (not really).

I kinda liked the authors regular life portrayal in “True Memoir of an International Assassin” the bit before he fell into his own story.

I couldn't stop thinking about Californication and David Duchovny

The more I hear about Moshe, the more I want to see him on stream

Lost City was a rollicking good time!

I finished Well of Ascension and just WOW

The author(s) as the main character trope is one of the reason I enjoy the series The Chronicles of the Imaginarium Geographica. (Book 1 Here, There Be Dragons)

I now wish "Galaxy Quest" had included one of the writers.

i need to know who the author that collect Ferrari is

Well, apparently I am at the toured artist phase, desperately writing books while working the midnight shift.

I think you could argue that Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen is one or two of those categories.

Was anybody else waiting the whole episode for a mention of Throw Momma from the Train?? Great movie!

Check out - Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz

Also " I'm not like other girls authors" Little Women, Anne of Green Gables ect

I vote that the sequel to The Rithmatist involves Brandon getting sucked into the world and ends up needing to get rescued from Nebrask.

So, for some reason, on Pocketcasts sometimes episodes end up shorter. This on is 41 min here, but 37 min on Pocket Casts. Episode 39 ("Hating Hades") is around 40 min on KZfaq but is cut in half on Pockets Casts, ending in the middle at 20 min. Same thing happened with episode 48 ("Very Few Fish, Relatively Speaking") where the episode is cut off at 13 min. Other episodes lose a few minutes here and there (like this one, not much more than a 4 or 5 min difference), but maybe the audio version gets cut down more than the video version. Those ones I don't experience a difference in. They don't ever seem to cut off in mid sentence. But the other two there's definitely an issue. Maybe it's the RSS feed?

My wife and I laughed throughout Lost City

Field of Dreams also had the lonely author trope - Terrance Mann.

i want Brandon to write a Cosmere book about someone who accidentally world hops and it's just a stereotypical isekai. Maybe a Knight Radiant with the sure of Transportation who doesn't know how to control it is reading a book that a world-hopper gave them and accidentally just goes there. Suddenly they're on Scadrial and know all about Vin and the magics, but only from a book. That could be a fun novella. Or somehow the beginning of Hoid's travels are purely accidental.

How about Dan is the actual serial killer and is so good, no one has noticed that he is basing his stories on his own actions against those that irritate him in ways no one would ever expect.

You do the reverse portal fusion fantasy. A group of serial killers kidnaps Brandon to sacrifice him, but the ritual goes wrong and he is part time possesed by the spirit of The Lord Ruler.

Good stuff

I would be interested in your take on the two episodes of Brooklyn Nine-Nine that feature DC Parlov (Fred Melamed), author of the Skyfire Cycle at a fantasy convention, and a second episode when his book manuscript is leaked to the public. I can’t help flout feel your reaction will be strong, one way or the other.

Dan...one of your books ('Mr. Monster') has cameo in episode 3 of Ms.Marvel...

I cannot name screen writers you are correct

I would read a novel where Sanderson and Wells have to solve or commit a food heist.

There was a hospital janitor named Henry Darger who did produce a 100,000+ word manuscript that was found in his home after his death.

True Memoirs of an International Assassin Exactly what you’re talking about

Honestly, the Brandon Sanderson isekai kinda' just writes itself. An author gets sucked into a world where, even though he can't use the powers, he has an intimate knowledge of the magic system, and uses that knowledge to outsmart the actual practitioners of that magic and save the day. Boom, ship it.

Wait Dan. The movie AS GOOD AS IT GETS with Jack Nicholson is about a romance writer with OCD

and now all the curious viewers are also on a watchlist

Well I want you in our Commander Legends draft. What's fancier than that?

If I had to write Brandon into one of his own books, he'd be a regular dude in the final empire who thought he was an allomancer. He ended up eating too much lead and now he thinks he's the author of the universe.

Anyone else thinking 'I am a sorta writer and I am lonely'

31:06 That's actually a genre in Manga called Isekai.