Ok I don't know how to tag people so I'm gonna reply to your pin. @Branigan Robertson isn't popping up automatically like facebook does. I have a serious question and input (I still want you to respond to my joke too). So I have made a habit of talking to the boss a lot because we identify with a lot of stuff and it's clear I'm a standout compared to the vast majority of people who are young enough to be my kids and she gets like all but 3 pop culture references I've ever made to describe what certain things are like (which is pretty good and she probably knows more OVERALL and can make me look young and stupid by comparison if she really tries). I only really put stuff in writing if it's a issue I can detail walkthrough and help out about and affects me in a serious or personal way. I've given HR copies along with the boss and also security if it pertains. But I never request a meeting with HR. I will request to the boss and we talk like normal. HR only wanted me for a serious two-part held-back complaint simply to let them know what's going on in case anyone else were to introduce false stuff against me, so it was more a preventative thing just in case. I found another issue that I was wondering about. They had someone from corporate working there with us and I found out during the last 2 days of their stay that they were interested in two of my biggest ideas of new policies to prevent false claims of sexual harassment and also to deal with uncorrected problems or objectionable people. I wrote a pretty good presentation for the person which I rushed to get to them next day in case they weren't working the DAY they were going to leave (they were, but I didn't know). We discussed my ideas before I wrote them and she liked them and agreed on the general concept. My question for you though is should I maybe provide anybody at the company a copy or just wait and see what the corporate lady does? My guess is to wait. I don't want to create an issue when they don't have to be aware of one. Basically the first rule is the two part "Turn around and run rule" both for managers and employees and the employees one is subdivided into uncorrected situations and highly objectionable people (of which I had to use ONE as an example). I would only provide this to the company if they tried to force me to work with that person and say "Here. Here's something I wrote corporate that DOUBLES as a specific complaint". So basically since the work is done form me, I would wait on that. And then the other is the most important one, the "Run for the hills rule" to prevent false claims of sexual harassment. That would solve a long-standing issue that affects me daily, and again, I don't want to provide it because I feel that they've heard enough about it that they don't need more at this time. Am I doing the right thing or what?

@@no1run732 To the extent I understand your question, it sounds like you're thinking the right way. But it sounds like you've got a specific issue and, if your issue is serious enough, I think you ought to chat with a lawyer in your area.

@@braniganrobertsonlaw It's only going to be serious if they try to force me to work with the young manager again. They know about the issues prompting me to make 2 rules dealing with how we can prevent them, but not that I actually proposed one that we talked about and one I just came up with recently that would have solved everything all the way back to a year ago when the big one that weighs on me daily started. It's a pretty low probability that they will have the one individual complained about at length manage me. I think they're just trying him out. So as long as they don't do that with me, I'm fine. For now.

My employer does not have an HR Department.

@Branigan Robertson wow it all makes sense now. Thanks for the video. My boss has been supervisor for 15 years. No staff have pd, pdp, training plan, annual reviews so of course no one knows their jobs and she tells me my responsibility. No policies or procedures. Finally had mental breakdown and went to hr and superintendent. Told it is my job. Asked to go on FMLA on 2/16/21. Not allowed until 5/26/21 when they claim they received paperwork. Missed deadlines which were never set before. Written up. Put under investigation. Said they were going to fire me but I could resign. I didn't. Let me take pfML, demoted me 15k pay cut, when I got back. Messed up my payroll by using all me leave therefore double paying me when I didn't report for pfML. Superintendent said asked what my urgency to fix $15k error, didn't brake schools bank account, what is my hardship. Going on Over a year now

"Our department did a thorough investigation into this incident, and we concluded that the officer did not break any laws or departmental rules by firing 2 clips into the unarmed black man. When the suspect suddenly threw his hands in the air and said "Don't shoot, I'll comply", the officer feared for his life and fired upon the suspect." -Some police HR rep probably

@@fallendeus clips don't go into a weapon a magazine goes into a weapon. A clip is used for holding rounds/ quick loading a magazine

You clearly have zero idea.

@@fallendeus "And by throw his hands in the air and say don't shoot I'll comply, we of course me that the marginalized victim shrugged off pepper spray and taser fire and then charged our officers with a bowie knife"

Reminds me of my principal saying "I'll get to the bottom of this" when I reported being beaten up on a weekly basis in elementary school. I learned that adults will say one thing and do nothing very early on.

Awesome!!!!!!!! Kudos!!!!!! I was a maid at holiday inn near Breckenridge, Colorado in 1972 (frisco or Dillon). I made $20 to $30 a day. Good pay for women. $3 to clean each room alone. I worked and hid that I was seven month’s pregnant. At a staff meeting, a co-worker happily congratulated me on being pregnant. Both managers eyes riveted on me. I was demoted to laundry immediately and then my laundry hours were cut rapidly down to nothing. No one would hire me because I was pregnant. I finally got an occasional babysitting part-time job. The job I had prior paid $1.25 an hour, sub-minimum because the owner put a tip jar on the counter. I never got any tips. It was empty.

And that is effectively how unions work, 1 employee can't really do much to protect themselves most of the time, but the collective will of the majority of a companies employees can often do a lot.

Sounds like that manager should read this message and file a lawsuit against you.

@@garethbaus5471 Except where the Unions are owned by the company. (yes, you'd be surprised by how many Unions are not owned by the workers and even some that are have bosses that are bribed by the company)

@@tommyb6611 why?

That’s how I’t be. I can tell you as an hr rep. Your the best witness you have. Document and record. Sometimes the people you complain to have a bias in the situation. Realize that they are there to make money not friends and the owe no loyalty to there co-workers. This is usually the part where I would tell you me best advice, stay to yourself, keep conversation work based, and just cause you have to work as a team doesn’t mean you have to be overly social. Cross your T and dot you I.

Remember, no ne is on your side when the trouble comes. Most are just noise makers.

I totally understand

I'm In new York and that's highly illegal here and you can sue over retaliation

I realized that most people will not stand up for their coworkers and they usually speak to each other in order to gather information for gossip and to use against each other in the future.

and they have time, money and personal to do that the employee has to do all that while keeping the job. I hope you are not provinding them with some of thst info....if you do or have to then you are a subordinate of the HR anti employees behavior

@@rpghero46 camera footage, login info, work emails are all property of your employer. If HR is investigating wrong doing on behalf of your emplyer then they have every right to that information. Usually these investigations turn up nothing so the employee may not even know it happened. Saves a lot of time and emotional stress for all. This does not constitute a toxic work environment as something must of sparked an investigation, a complaint or inconsistencies of some kind. To be fair I'd rather have a toxic work environment then toxic coworkers. I've had jobs with both and I prefer the former but my current job has neither of those.

@@kenneyshepard4511 well enjoy working for the system that keeps you well feed and feeling useful l. belive me they have a tendency to make the sheep belive they are on the right. don't worry you wouldn't know that's how well trained they have people.

Really? Wow nice! I could see patter of behavior my company or the HR and management team are doing againts me. But I am not sure how to begin with to fight them back. They may use technical glitch to be a covert way to prevent auditing my vacation hours which was in error! This IT issues has been ongoing for extended time since mid August. Having an IT update issue will somehow delay the investigation or an alibi to give to the DOL WHD to investigate them.

Very well put

@Soul Equaliser I forgot that I posted this comment because it was a very painful time in my life. I ultimately was written up the 3rd time, suspended for 3 days, and when the new Store Manager came back from her week long vacation she wasted no time coming up with trumped up charges to terminate me. I was wrongfully terminated in May of 2022. Fortunately for me I had filed an HRB case against the company prior to them firing me. I hired an Attorney and we are waiting on a Probable Cause determination. It was hard being unemployed at no fault of my own. I was on unemployment and took a job months later that paid very little and had no room for advancing. I started to experience a similar toxic environment and knew I had to move on. I'm proud to announce that I have a very high paying position that rewards me for my hard work with bonuses and other incentives. Hang in there and believe in yourself. You have to be your own legal advisor and know your case inside and out. Watching these videos were extremely helpful!!! Document, document, document! I wish you well and pray you get through this.

Sounds like you were the problem….

@@BigPapaVerde17 yes she is they never see their mistake always blame the other

@@mariannegriego444 Hiring an attorney and all of that is a waste of time and energy. People don't want to hear this, but if you're getting in trouble at work or being harrrassed by a manager, YOU NEED A NEW JOB. That's the only way to get peace of mind. Otherwise, you're in a bad relationship and choosing to stay.

@@shakirghazali2890 hmmm... just in case you didn't know this, it's against the law to harass and discriminate against any employee. I won my case...Thank you!

So true

Probably some he’s won against haha!

Damn straight brother!!

Or folk annoyed the content didn't start for 4 minutes

No. Not all of us....

Me to

Perhaps you've come to realize that HR is not there for you....

Too bad you're not in a union, they could protect you.

Wow, you had to go to HR several times in different companies. What kind of issues did you have to face?

Yeah: HR stands for Huge Runaround

"a guy who was blowing up..." "I was infuriated and yelled..." Hmmm🤔

Wow

And I was sent to HR because I forgot to inspect a job once and another time for asking my boss if the other inspector could do it because I had so many jobs to inspect. I couldn't believe it.

So I hope that you are in a much better “place” mentally physically and emotionally Hope that you found a BETTER job with better environment.

@@simplymetwo9370 I sure am. In a much better place with better pay and very friendly coworkers. Thank you!

This is my situation EXACTLY! I have come to understand I was bullied and harassed by staff AND the manager AND the manager knew and did nothing about it! I was actually terminated from this employer just today. I’m kind of thankful because I’m not one to quit a job. Now I never ever have to go back to that place. I’m so soooooo thankful!

@@laurasainz4836 you were mobbed. Narc bosses want you to accept their abuse and if you don’t you get punished. You (meaning anyone) try to do your best job and for some reason that’s a license to abuse employees. If you complain or expose the abuse they cover it up and retaliate by making your life miserable. What a wicked world we live in. Hope that you can get some rest and regroup and that your next workplace is HEALTHIER.

I literally got told today to shut my mouth I took two extra minutes while I was taking somebody's order mind you I work in food service the manager was literally 2 in from me telling me that she's already talked to me about talking for too long I mean I could literally feel her Breathe on Me I have never dealt with such disrespect in my life to the point where the store manager actually agreed with me when I said if the roles were reversed I'd be fired I just don't understand how employers can be legally allowed to do this stuff but yet they say they're having trouble with finding people who want to work

We do take anxiety pills in the USA, a lot of them. One of the most popular prescribed drugs here.

This happens in healthcare too.

Love this

Damn, just like the police 😳

Wow! I love it. I am a good writer and wordy sometimes. My goal when writing to the HR is to let them see clearly the details in a chronological order as if I am laying all my cards and Aces on the table. This is wrong! You are right when they see inconsistencies in my report then they attack my mistakes and take them against me. Hmmmm.

I appreciate your excellent communucation skills!

Your great advice will be remembered well.

I so needed this I’m being discriminated now due to ADA

@ Idiot Swordsman: _"I did take my PIP and Termination notice to an employment lawyer and he took the case pro-bono."_ Well, don't keep us in suspense -- how did it turn out?

@@Milesco Long story short, The whole situation never left arbitration, I received a nice settlement plus attorney's fees, and that school is now under new management.

@@ivantoe207 Ah, that's good to hear! 😊

What is ADA?

Is the hotline through your company or something else?

@@MA-zg2pz it was internal, but better documented than just talking to someone in HR. More eyes were on the process.

@@HLR4th what was the eventual outcome?

@@sheenacaldwell5591 for that specific incident, the offending VP was reigned in, prevented from firing me and two other physicians. The VP eventually was moved to a different part of the hospital system, later retiring. However, the system as a whole remained toxic (if anything became worse). Our department was reorganized, removing any local autonomy. A new VP was eventually installed who was a clone of Professor Umbridge. Targeted firings for those speaking out (not “team players”). Employee engagement plummeted, but if we asked about the numbers, you were targeted. Turnover accelerated. I departed in 2017, transitioned from clinical medicine into a non-clinical field, and have been very happy ever since. After my departure, 4-5 other physicians departed, about have of which have also left clinical medicine, transitioning to industry or related fields. It is hospital systems like that which accelerate physician (and nursing) shortages- and this was all before COVID.

Is that the same thing as a compliance hotline because that is something that my company has. If so, I am thinking about speaking with them about my fears of HR and the company going against me if I complain about a coworker.

Start a documentation on her behavior and what she says to you and you definitely have a lawsuit case if she starts harassing you based on your protected class.

@K C Always document, it's tough going through it but you give yourself a chance at keeping your job, getting your job back, or a court date. Speak with the EEOC to see if you have a case.

Wow, an employee who works with the company 39yrs sounds that something the HR should have look a better resolution to keep you.

Are you allowed to record or ? U can only write down ?

@@vanessap2814 NOPE they want to kick older workers out, that is their GOAL

Where in N.C. if you don't mind me asking.

I wld really want to know wat part of NC your in. Please. Having some issue at wrk tat I have spoken to my supervisor n seems like he don’t care how injustice things go on here. So I wld like some advice if possible please.

Do you take discrimination cases

Why is it that 90% of all the employees I complained in the past were either terminated later like 3 to 6 months or transfered to another store locations within the organization? One who assaulted me physically who was a supervisor enjoyed 1 more year on the job before he got fired! This is insidious tactic of firing him. The HR did nothing to protect me because I did not follow up and never asked the HR in writing the result of their investigation.

I had a similar situation. The male coworker is thriving and I was retaliated against until it was so unbearable that I quit.

Good for you! This needed to absolutely happen. His time was up!

BRAVO!

Sue them

Wait, so because they fired you, your values changed and now you find sexual harassment acceptable?

It's easy to say sue them. This shit takes months if not years, it's exhausting. Sadly easier to find another job.

@@SevenRiderAirForce You can do both you're not required to stay unemployed while suing.

Did you know you are also have federal whistleblower protection?

EEOC in NY is corrupt. If it is white on white or the case concerns antisemitism they don't care. In my case, hiring an attorney helped me keep my job. The main perpetrator was demoted and transferred yet I am still working in the same department with tenure. The other individual who discriminated and retaliated against me is still there. But guess what? She doesn't have tenure and her partner in crime is no longer there to lie and cover for her. So now she has to watch her back.

Honestly you have to hire a lawyer and make sure you’re documenting what they did and all details of disgusting behavior - only a lawyer truly has your back

Let them fire you never quit

T Francis this is the hard part.

Branigan is soooo right about painting a target on your back the min. you complain to HR! HR SUCKS!

This is what I did.. will see how this will develop

I see

How do you know he wasn’t a perv and all of that was true

@@broforcefreedom4936why would you question that?

@@MannysVisionStudio well I question anything without seeing the proof but prob because everyone left him. It definitely happens but usually I see family sticking with people that actually do bad things and they enable the family member. But the wife leaving too is just crazy.

May. I ask what happened next?

Yes really curious on how this turned out for you?

After 2 years of working in HR, I have huge anxiety, always struggling to leave bed for work and basically feeling like a mental ruin. Never thought the branch itself might be the problem, rather thought it's the company's specific. And my manager was also very nice and supportive at the beginning. Now it's to the point I have panic attacks in the bathroom. Definietely must change the job. Think of it before it's 2 late.

@@marekkopton2546 I already did. My supervisors were sociopaths. My boss was nice just to save face. I lasted 3 months minus some days. I hated being alive and I could count the minutes by how much life force I felt myself losing. I was constantly being complimented and also threatened with termination simultaneously. I felt insane. The employees I dealt with were often lovely. My supervisors were ghastly. I never want to work a job like that ever again. I'm still in a state of uncertainty and occasionally try to float on what little money I have now but I make it work, and I'm at least a bit happier. I hope you find something better for yourself.

@@rodolfogarcia6301 omg that's so cool of you. I started to feel sth isn't well 2 months after my Induction day, however I setup a goal (like a milestone) to work 1 complete year there. Afterwards my results were great, manager charming and caring (because target was on its place). But the longer I've been there, the worst I started to feel. And now, from about like 5 months, I am a real human wreck, just trying to smile (at work) and starting to search for a new opportunities ASAP. Will see how it goes, but trying to look bright into the future and also awaiting for the therapist session. See, I had problems even with making this appointment (being aware of major mental health issues) as it seemed to be so pointless and timeconsuming like I had to do a 10 years time jump. That's all by the age of 29. Also, I lost most of my friends btw.... Gross, funny and sad. I was really happy to read your comment and moreover of your quick response. Take care 2 and wishing you great career!

I will add that to my ever growing list of video ideas. I do get a lot of calls from people who have been accused of something.

Impressive NL.

@@braniganrobertsonlaw I've learned to anonymously report things to the corporate office. My last HR got her position by sleeping with the company manager!

@@ladykay917 so common in those getting promoted.

thats the issue, there might not be a better stable alternative elsewhere, and it is especially difficult when you have a mortgage to get on top of with kids

I work for state and they appear to all be mismanaged

Whe all people do is flee from their prolems, they find them somewhere else. The problem gets bigger for everyone. It might not be so bad if more people tried to communicate. Most give up and keep their heads down, or worse, lie. Both sides are at fault.

GET YOURSELF an attorney...classic ploy to GET YOU OUT... proved my case that my inept mgr wasn't filing anything correctly. Floor sup with in kahoots with her to get me out of my job. I used another mgr to file my FMLA stuff as a back up but went and got legal counsel, and went above my office to show that I was a valuable asset to the company. Went to CEO that sent me kudo notes. Told him I was not doing what mgr accused me of doing. Until I got in this nutcase mgr's unit I was getting great reviews. WHY did she have it out for me. Turns out she had dated former mgr and he dumped her and she was FURIOUS about my friendship with him. NOTHING about my work, it was personal, and I had NO idea of their former history. The floor sup hated that mgr as well, not his work- him, so the two HAGS collaborated in trying to push me out when my dear mom, was dying. HOW cruel women in the workplace are. I was a good employee that got transferred into a sick woman's unit and from day one NOTHING I did was good enough. This is the CRAP you deal with in corporate America, and HR, backs these SICK mgrs up. Unless you get legal counsel that LEANS on them.

Dragging on 15 months Manager started investigation then jumped ship. Supervisor below that one wrote bogas comments flipped the script. Brought complaint against me. 2nd step towards the exit I suppose. No use saying anything in my defense, my integrity is destroyed. Looking forward to the end. Won't be long now- Next phase here I come lol

Mom is hr

🤣😂

Damn

Now that was silly of you the reason why they let you go is b/c you might sue the company if you don't feel safe at work, HR is not your friend they are not there for you, they are there for the company, they don't want a lawsuit b/c you don't feel safe at work, so it was easier just to fired you.

Get a better paying management position. You stayed long enough to get that promotion 🥳🏆

Are you working now

Yesss!!!! Also diaries!!!! This doesn't just apply to work! I remember listening to a podcast in college where someone was asking for advice to help a friend escape domestic violence, and the given advice was to write down everything their friend confided them in with dates so that if their friend eventually wanted to talk to police they would at least have that documentation. Also writing down stories, or things friends and family tell you can help you come up with very thoughtful gifts!

@Ralph Furley HR protects the company...NEVER believe they have any interest in YOU, it is all about getting you OUT as you might become a liability. DO NOT EVER believe HR is on your side EVER, they are NOT there to help you, but to keep their company out of a lawsuit FROM you, NEVER EVER give them your documentation. SEE AN ATTORNEY, they will represent you, they are trying to see what you have on them so they can USE it against YOU.

I have a joke for you: what's the difference between a HR professional, doctor, lawyer, engineer ? The other three don't have to remind you their professionals LOL 😄

Hi. One thing I don't understand about HR is why they act adversely to employees when doing so actually hurts the company's case. For example, if someone raises a legal violation, the best thing to do is to genuinely address it such that (1) the employee is happy/productive and (2) they have a stronger defense in a lawsuit. Instead, HR retaliates 70% of the time - which makes employees want to sue and gives many employees a viable claim when they may not have had one before. HR's "circle the wagons" and villify "troublesome" employees isn't just mean; it's unwise. I guess they're betting that employees won't sue, but why make that bet?

@@Yarrg Unfortunately, the narcissists tend to be high-ups.

Document, document, document!

**UPDATE** So after I sent the email to HR, I reached out to my supervisor letting her know and she actually put in a leave of absence for me. I was out for two weeks and unfortunately, since I had just started, I didn't get paid but that was fine. I'm now back at work and although I didn't get the training nor do we do updates in our meetings, I'm doing feeling a lot better and my calls are going a lot smoother.

@@T-kitty-v89 what changed? What was the reason for leave? Odd. I fought for training for my staff and management refused and punishment me for asking

@@kathysue9890 Hey Kathy to answer your questions on what was the reason for my leave of absence, I'm not sure what my supervisor may have done or said for HR to approve the leave of absence. However nothing changed at all when I came back from leave. Everything that I requested to HR went unheard and I never received a response from HR at all, but now we have meetings every other day and my supervisor leaves the door open for any questions we may have before we begin our duties and that has helped our team TREMENDOUSLY! I hope I was able to answer your questions, and I commend you for standing for your team and seeking help. Don't let whatever punishment that gave you stir you from motivating your team!

Can you tell me if anything has improved?

Not** excuse my errors I have fat fingers 😂

I call that "homeboy/homegirl" favoritism...

Geeze, good luck. The proximity of your retirement might be part of the issue. I hope things work out for you.

I hope you stand up to those jerks!!!

I hate this is happening to you. I know and understand all to well.

Finally a happy ending.

6 months of that? I don't think i could put up with a half year of that

@@kobe51 I'm going on a year. Union is worthless. Went to lawyer. Everyone asks what is union doing? Not a damn thing

Unions are the worst for that. I got fired and blackballed from the showbiz unions for calling them out on their incompetence.

I see that to UN . sh

CM it sounds like we probably have some similarities perhaps, assuming were both covered as protected class workers in our situations. I'm just debating whether or not to bring my issue up to HR or go straight to EEOC with my grievance and let them sort it out. After all these horror stories I'm not sure if going through HR is going to benefit me at all. I work for the State of California. Your thoughts?

@Kevin Johns you should look at the employee handbook and follow their grievance procedure first, even if it says you have to reach out to hr then do it or it could hurt your case. Even if hr doesn’t take it serious

@@kevinjohns6250 I filed a eeoc but can't find an open spot for interview. Rediculous. Think eeoc might be a joke

This is helpful!

Wow. I’m so sorry you had to experience this. Your coworker isn’t stupid. I also worked at Walmart and faced a similar situation. I’m so glad you are okay and left. It makes me happy to see you stand up for yourself!

Sounds like he had anger management problems and took it out on employees. No one should have to endure such treatment while trying to make a living.

Was it AMZN? Sounds like AMZN

Thank you for the awesome comment!

hey what if you don't mind answering what part do you agree and disagree with and why from your experience. I am thinking of changing majors to human resource because i really want to be around people and help them, but the more I research into it, it seems as though HR people are corporate puppets and do not actually care about employees. it would be of great help to hear. Thank you!

Who do u do to if you feel you was let go on your job with 2 write ups not 3

HR May mean well but they generally not very bright and executive mgmt is fully of ego maniacs who dont know the law. That is why companies lose lawsuits.

are you a problem child, treat employees like crap, or just don't have a clue

Welcome.

definitely

They are a horrible company. I know exactly who you are referring to. The Walmart of grocery stores.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Companies usually will do duo diligent to check your words with her words. No companies will be stupid enough not to listen to your side of the story, just hers. You need to rewrite your story.

If what you're saying is true, it sounds like you could sue your ex as well. Also, she may have obtained that info by subpoena which is legal.

reptiles with no brain get promoted all the time. very common. super annoying BUT there is nothing you can do. just try to ignore it. If you believe they are that stupid then it will eventually show in their performance.

hostile comes from agression which is released through physical pain endured through the activity your performing ! so if everyone is running at breakneck speed burnout is inevitable!