There seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding with what was said in this video. 1. We repeated that we've been told this movie is inaccurate so that people can stop telling us that, its not a judgement on the film before it even started. We said it just so people will stop telling us. 2. We actually really enjoyed this movie, which we said on camera after the movies done.
@TearDownGenesis7 ай бұрын
One thing I want to point out is "Prima Nocta" is not a thing and never was. Hollywood has done a good (bad) job creative a narrative of kings being horrible oppressive to their vassals but in reality it was much more like modern day employers and employees, but instead of us getting paid by our boss, we get all the money and pay the boss the portion. As a result Lords and such made sure not to piss of the common person. So a "Prima Nocta" type thing would never exist. In fact, it would be seen as sleeping with a commoner, even for a trist beneath the aristocracy, and an insult. A bit like letting everyone at work know you bought a hooker for a night (Not shaming, just comparing it to current times culture viewing such a statement) If they did fancy a common person they'd likely hire them into their castle and then move on them. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen, just, it wasn't overt. Also, in military they would never volley arrows into their own men. Just like in modern times we don't deliberately destroy our own equipment (let alone men) they would not then as it would hurt their military resources, as fighters were a resource. This is no criticism on your reaction just additional context that many don't understand about the era. Some other common misconceptions: 1. People didn't bathe. They did bathe regularly. 2. Were illiterate. They were functionally literate but since most of the aristocracy relied on French or Latin, most English / Scottish weren't considered "literate" because they didn't know "cultured languages"
@manutgop7 ай бұрын
@@TearDownGenesis"Prima nocta" is not grammatically correct Latin. "Jus primae noctis" would be more correct, but there is no evidence that this was done in medieval England. There are, however, examples throughout history of this type of practice - notably in the Epic of Gilgamesh and Herodotus' Histories. As for the deliberate destruction of your own forces as a modern strategy, there are numerous examples of this in recent times. Human wave tactics used by the Japanese in the Pacific theater and similar tactics by Chinese soldiers in Korea, while artillery was simultaneously used in the same area hitting there own and US soldiers. Russia has used these tactics as well in Stalingrad during WW2, in Chechnya and Afghanistan and in the current conflict in Ukraine.
@pieceofgosa7 ай бұрын
The historical inaccuracy of this film has been somewhat overblown, to the point where people treat it like a fantasy movie & as a Scots person I do find that quite annoying tbh. William Wallace was real. He did lead a vastly outnumbered Scottish army to victory against the English at Stirling Bridge. He did invade England. He was betrayed & he was executed by the same method shown in the film. The dead wife is fantasy & the French princess is fantasy but just about everything else is well within the bounds of "artistic licence" rather than just being complete inventions.
@SmartCrab8047 ай бұрын
Have you watched soldier 1998?- this is a fantastic action movie with Kurt Russell
@jdspencer607 ай бұрын
Ugh. The internet overreaction has to be the worst to deal with. We love you guys, don't listen to the stupid haters who are just whining
@exowarrior7 ай бұрын
Speaking as somebody from Scotland, I think this film is brilliant and highly enjoyable. I don't watch it to learn our history, so the inaccuracies don't bother me at all. It is just a well made movie in my opinion.
@Mugthraka7 ай бұрын
Its genuine good entertainement. And it Gets your Blood boiling when you see the army of Scotsmen roaring and charging the English. And James Horner soundtrack is just "Chef's Kiss"
@goldenageofdinosaurs71927 ай бұрын
Yeah, Mel Gibson definitely knows how to create a good film & viewing experience.
@Martin-rh6bn7 ай бұрын
It's funny seeing the different reactions from different Scottish people. For example as someone from Scotsman me and my family just hate this film. Though that probably also has to do with the fact that we have a bunch of people who love history in our family 😅
@prodigalbrock7 ай бұрын
And to me a genuine love letter to the fighting spirit of the Scottish people.
@NecramoniumVideo7 ай бұрын
Without this movie, we very likely would have not known about William Wallace and his rebellion against England.
@bannjaxx7 ай бұрын
I'm Scottish, I loved this movie when it came out, I love it to this day. The film is largely based on a 15th century poem by a wandering minstrel called Blind Harry about the legend of William Wallace, so it's a TELLING of the story but William Wallace was a real person, he did fight for an independent Scotland and at the Battle of Stirling bridge he won a famous victory over the far larger English army and on the back of that victory he made successful raids on the north of England and was appointed, along with the man he fought alongside at Stirling Bridge, Andrew Murray (not the tennis player) as Guardians of the Kingdom of Scotland by King Of The Scots (John Balliol), and was in later years, knighted, becoming Sir William Wallace. As Guardian of the Kingdom of Scotland he was succeeded by Robert the Bruce - another Scottish legend who dedicated much of his life to Scottish Independence and is prominent in this movie.
@billdoor31407 ай бұрын
I'm half Scottish half English. My dad was a Scottish historian and absolutely loathed this film. Being inaccurate is one thing but getting 99% wrong is ridiculous. Wallace dad was alive when Wallace was an adult. The Princess was aged 3 when Wallace died , blue face paint and tartan? Nope not during this time , long shanks was alive years after Wallace died and the biggest insult Wallace being betrayed by the Bruce? I'm not saying it needs to be a Documentary but they could have put some effort in. Might as well have Abraham Lincoln dueling JFK
@bannjaxx7 ай бұрын
@@billdoor3140 Those choices are what makes Mr Gibson an Oscar winning filmmaker and makes Braveheart a great movie, and I'll bet thousands more people actually read about the REAL William Wallace in history books because of that film than any amount of lectures or documentaries would have inspired.
@billdoor31407 ай бұрын
@@bannjaxx I severely doubt braveheart got more people into history than history professors mate 😅....the modern embrace of misinformation to the point people think the earth is flat and vaccines are the worlds scientists coming together to wipe them out is more likely the results of people believing this sort of plop. People way too happy to accept fiction as facts. Every single major plot point in this inaccurate from Wallace father's death to his marriage to the Princess to the Kings death.
@mediumvillain7 ай бұрын
There was a sort of semi-followup a few years back about Robert the Bruce starring the same actor, and before that there was one made for Netflix called the Outlaw King with Chris Pine, which condenses some of the historical events and legends
@jaydouglas88457 ай бұрын
Look, it's not a documentary. It's a Hollywood movie. They make these changes to make the story more compelling and emotional. They do the same thing with a lot of movies. I agree with your assessment of the movie, but I don't think it was meant to be taken too seriously. @@billdoor3140
@stevenmclennan19537 ай бұрын
As a Scot, this movie is a classic. Know about the historical inaccuracies but it's so well made and a good jumping off point for anyone who's interested in researching the real history.
@heyskra7 ай бұрын
I think it was made more for the morality and of what William Wallace stood for, "Freedom for his people" than historical accuracy.
@stinkbug43217 ай бұрын
Read my comment
@SarkkiKarkki7 ай бұрын
I choose to adopt the view that the English are künts and the Scots are a fine people thanks to this movie.
@TheAlkochef7 ай бұрын
@@SarkkiKarkki which was true, back then :p now is a different story
@haraldisdead7 ай бұрын
They were chanting "MacAulish," which means "Son of Wallace" in Scottish. It shifted to "Wallace," signifying that he was no longer the son of Wallace, but the new Wallace.
@myplan81664 ай бұрын
Thanx a lot, i was asking for this since i saw it first, back then.
@Cadinho937 ай бұрын
"They may take away our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!" The betrayal scene is the best acting Mel Gibson ever did. Most people would have played it angry. He made it feel like real betrayal does: confusion, disbelief, numbness, the life flowing out of him. Absolutely gutted me the first time I saw it. Also, this film is EVERYTHING even now after all these years, which never gets old.
@KonohazFinest7 ай бұрын
Fuck yes anytime i see that scene you can feel the pain he's feeling definitely one of the best acted scenes in any movie.
@user-oh6jh3zp3d7 ай бұрын
My favorite scene! You literally can see every feelings he has showing up on his face one by one. Incredible acting
@Stogie21127 ай бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of Gibson, and I haven't seen all his films, but his performance in "Signs" was second to none. He was great.
@paulp92747 ай бұрын
And he does it all without saying a word. Just the way his expression changes when he sees Robert's face, and then just slumps down in defeat.
@tristramcoffin9267 ай бұрын
I actually love this film more now that I did when it came out and the first few years I had it on dvd. It has aged very well as a movie.
@balansboy7 ай бұрын
Regardless of historical inaccuracy, this is a fantastic and epic movie.
@playedout1487 ай бұрын
Perhaps I've seen it too many times, but...meh.
@Chris_347 ай бұрын
After watching Stewart Lee's comedy routine on Braveheart I can't watch the movie without laughing.
@gavinsheridan46807 ай бұрын
Its kinda formulaic. The Mel Gibson movie making template. Basically the same movie as The Passion.
@andrewward58917 ай бұрын
@@gavinsheridan4680- the Patriot is pretty much colonial Braveheart
@davidmonaghan267 ай бұрын
@@Chris_34but when you realise it's not supposed to be historically accurate and it's based on the tales and poem's about William Wallace.
@Rubix847 ай бұрын
I'm Scottish, live where William Wallace's father was born and went to school with the actor who played young Wallace. I don't care about the inaccuracies of this movie. The story, the music and the action make this an incredible movie.
@Frank-Voight-Kampff7 ай бұрын
06:22 As a child of the early 80s George falling for Sophie Marceau is *very* relatable. 🥰
@antonycharnock29937 ай бұрын
I could definitely fall into those eyes too😍
@arklytte7 ай бұрын
Same! I remember seeing this in the theater with some buddies, and getting entirely lost in those eyes. Sophie Marceau is, without doubt, one of the great beauties of her age.
@pandersodlands60817 ай бұрын
How can you not? Lord have mercy.
@idiot_city52447 ай бұрын
So classic, he loved the second he saw her haha
@jlilley737 ай бұрын
"No man can resist me" -- Sophie to James Bond 😆
@Broadkast7 ай бұрын
“These doors are so loud”. Priceless. A supercut of Simone’s intros would be amazing.
@dracoargentum97837 ай бұрын
I concur.
@fubar12177 ай бұрын
+1
@MrSolidito7 ай бұрын
what are the intros? I've watched for a while but i honestly don't know, is it referencing other films? Is it just complete random? Please explain, i might be dumb
@poolhall96327 ай бұрын
I wanna go all the way back to the original ones where she used to just do variations on "Cine binge" "Binder cringe!"
@JoeR2037 ай бұрын
I thought she was doing an impression of Christopher Walken.
@thegunslinger13637 ай бұрын
Despite its inaccuracies. It is a brilliant film. The score from the late James Horner is incredible.
@AleksPizana7 ай бұрын
Which is also incredibly inaccurate in everything it portrays.
@SparksDrinker7 ай бұрын
I would argue that BECAUSE of its inaccuracies it’s a brilliant film.
@NecramoniumVideo7 ай бұрын
@@SparksDrinker I always say about the movie, its historically, an inaccurate movie, but one hell of a Hollywood movie
@nsasupporter75577 ай бұрын
@@NecramoniumVideoagreed
@accolade80607 ай бұрын
If you really pay attention to the actions of the dwarf performers prior to the execution, you will realize that they are pantomiming what is really going to happen to Wallace moments later. Also, I believe that Isabella, Princess of Wales, was actually just a kid when Wallace died and probably never met him.
@arklytte7 ай бұрын
Yep. IIRC she was 3 or 4 when this all actually went down.
@kgjung23107 ай бұрын
To answer George's inquiry, generally an invading force needs a ratio of at least 3:1 when going up against a prepared defender behind good fortifications. That will of course increase due to various other factors like morale, terrain, supply, weather, etc.
@Trebor747 ай бұрын
You need more troops then the enemy can kill in the time it takes for you to reach them. In trench warfare the number would depend on the speed of fire of machine guns.
@thelizardking30367 ай бұрын
I think this is a modern idea based on the first world war, where defenders had a great advantage. Having more men is always nice off course, but I don’t think they really used this rule of thumb before modern times.
@kgjung23107 ай бұрын
@@thelizardking3036 The exact ratio might not have been established, but it's not a new, modern idea. In the third chapter of Sun Tzu's "The Art of War," he refers to a general rule of war that ". . . if you outnumber the opponent ten to one, then surround them; five to one, attack; two to one, divide. If you are equal, then fight if you are able. If you are fewer, then keep away if you are able. If you are not as good, then flee if you are able." So the concept of following a certain ratio as a guide to military action is hardly a modern concept (written 6th century BC). The modern era of war may have made this more specific especially by the Soviets who created elaborate algorithms to account for qualitative and quantitative factors between opposing forces to determine force levels to use (3:1 in tanks, 5:1 infantry, 9:1 artillery for assaults against a NATO position for example).
@arizona_anime_fan7 ай бұрын
in actuality; it depends on the era and the tech available. depending on the era and fortifications the mathematics for a guaranteed victory against prepared defenses could be anywhere from 1.5 more men (wooden, hastily prepared) to as many as 10:1 to achieve victory. on the whole though throughout human history the ratio against stone walls was usually anywhere from 3:1 to 5:1... though toward the end of European siege warfare in the 18th century that would climb much higher
@ganymeade2757 ай бұрын
@@thelizardking3036 Defenders had far greater advantages in the past, modern artillery made stone fortresses into death traps, prior to that many castles were completely impenetrable without months of siege. There were cases of sieges lasting well over a year.
@FightingTorque4117 ай бұрын
Native Scot here - I first saw Braveheart in 2005 in high school, literally; Mr Forsyth chose it for the visual media part of our English class. As such, I've seen it, particularly the Battle of Stirling Bridge scene ("the sword against the blue sky reflects the blue of the Scottish flag and that's why the director chooses to focus on it", etc), more times than I can recall. So it's testament to the strength of the movie that *despite* this introduction and exposure, I love it all the same. It's not just a historical mess for the points George raised. The French princess not only wasn't in Britain at the time of Wallace's campaign, but was also just three years old. The face paint was also worn by the Picts, the people who lived in parts of the land before Scots conquered it all (centuries before Braveheart's setting). While that was 1000 years too late, the wearing of tartan and kilts is about 500 years too early, and two-handed blades (also known as claymores, from the Gaelic _claidheamh mòr_ "big sword") were not in use by any Scottish warrior at the time. Speaking of Gaelic, at 18:10 _amadan_ means "idiot" but only for males; the female would be _oinseach_ Most amusing of all: the Scottish hero William Wallace is played by (EDIT: Australian / American) Mel Gibson; The King of England is Patrick McGoohan, an Irishman; and the mad King Stephen of Ireland is portrayed by David O'Hara, who despite the name is Scottish. Congratulations - between this and Trainspotting you've probably covered two of the most fundamental cornerstones of Scottish-based cinema! Might I suggest Shallow Grave and/or The Angels' Share for two more? Thank you for these FREEEEEEEEE reactions 🏴
@Shiny70547 ай бұрын
Shallow Grave really is quite underrated
@bradmcmahon31567 ай бұрын
Technically Gibson isn't Australian. He does hold permanent residency despite not having really lived there since the early 90s. His family is from New York and he moved with his parents to Australia when he was a teen. He got famous when in Australia but has always been a US citizen.
@gregall21787 ай бұрын
Where does Gregory's Girl fall into Scottish-based cinema? 😀
@miriam83767 ай бұрын
I came here specifically looking for someone to mention the Picts, happy to see it
@FightingTorque4117 ай бұрын
@@gregall2178 Into a gap where I haven't seen it! I know, I know, something I have to remedy as soon as possible, having heard only great things about it
@Thaum1el7 ай бұрын
I was a history major, and we had a long going discussion on this movie specifically. We concluded, that is Braveheart the movie could make a person interested in history as a subject, then it has still served a positive role to the field. Then it's up to historians to explain the details. That's not the role of this movie, when it boils down to it.
@paulcurran47867 ай бұрын
Yeah, when they say 'based on a true story' they never say what percentage, could be 100%, could be 50%, could be 0.5%
@erikjohnson38597 ай бұрын
There is a large discussion surrounding this movie, and others like it, as a medievalism. It is an irresponsible attempt to capture an imagined rustic past when things were better than they are now. These types of movies are almost always at the expense of modernity and progressive ideals. It is not a mistake that the manly country man of tradition is rebelling against the effeminate metropolitan king and that these types of movies are so loved by christofascists.
@cthulhucollector7 ай бұрын
@@paulcurran4786 It never says it is a documentary so people need give it a break.
@yannikakapralli7 ай бұрын
so no Conclusion realy ;)
@brittoncain50907 ай бұрын
@@erikjohnson3859"Christofascists"
@coitusergosum24477 ай бұрын
"Braveheart is historically inaccurate" has been spoken about as many times as "Did you know that Viggo Mortensen broke his toe in that scene?"
@solidus4prez7 ай бұрын
Hey did you hear about Leo DiCaprio's hand in Django Unchained?
@New-ye2fl7 ай бұрын
Once you say the word braveheart here in the U.K. someone will just pop out of anywhere and tell us how inaccurate it is, you could be anywhere at anytime
@jacob49207 ай бұрын
Impossible. No factoid about any movie will EVER supercede Viggo Mortensen's toe story! lol
@GatorScribe7267 ай бұрын
And Alan Rickman was dropped before the count of 3 he was expecting in Die Hard.
@sammysam10407 ай бұрын
"Whom shall I send" and "Not my gentle son..." I love that monologue by the king
@timothybrown59997 ай бұрын
This was the first movie I remember where they didn’t cut away from the violent battle scenes. Usually, you’d see the hero slash his sword then it cuts to another part, minimizing the effect. Seeing legs hacked off and hands getting smashed gave me a visceral reaction unlike any movie before. Made it seem more real, less Hollywood than other battle scenes from before it.
@kraahk19287 ай бұрын
"got lost in her eyes". Loved that comment. A whole (my) generation of teenagers did, when she starred in "La Boum" 1980. For us it was awesome to see her again.
@jiibee4447 ай бұрын
Braveheart received ten Academy Award nominations, and a month later, won five including Best Picture, Best Director for Gibson, Best Cinematography, Best Sound Effects Editing, and Best Makeup
@richieclean7 ай бұрын
Yeah there's usually about a month between the Academy Award nominations being announced, and the actual award ceremony itself. So that tidbit applies to every film that has ever won an Oscar, ever.
@AzulinhoAzulinho7 ай бұрын
@@richieclean lol, the tidbit is: _it was nominated for 10 and won 5,_ the 'month later' part is no more than nice writing, instead of just saying 'and won 5' as I just did.
@jiibee4446 ай бұрын
Braveheart received ten Academy Award nominations AKA Oscar nominations, meaning that it was one of the contestant in ten AKA 10 different categories. After one month AKA over 4 weeks it won 5 Academy Award AKA Oscars which meant it was awarded as best in 5 different categories 😁. Those 5 wins included Best Picture, Best Director for Mel Gibson which means he directed the movie. Best Cinematography, Best Sound Effects Editing and Best Makeup. Mel Gibson was also main star in the film. 🙂
@definitelydelish7 ай бұрын
In real life Isabella, also known as the She-Wolf of France, deposed Edward the 2nd [the son of Longshanks] in 1327 and ruled as Queen for several years before her son Edward the 3rd assumed the throne of England as King.
@mage14397 ай бұрын
The thing about this is, despite all the inaccuracies in this movie, they actually toned down WW's torture. And everything the Irish guy said in this movie was pure gold.
@MikeWilsonBarrett7 ай бұрын
For the finished film they did but it was more barbaric in the script and the first draft.
@Trebor747 ай бұрын
Wasn't really torture. It was the usual punishment for treason and both sides of the Scottish civil war swore fealty to Edward,so it was treason.
@kennethfharkin7 ай бұрын
If people paid attention to the film, just before they bring him up for torture the two dwarfs act out the disembowelment scene, pulling fake intestines from the victim, to the crowds hilarious delight.
@richieclean7 ай бұрын
They didn't tone it down so much as *imply* it without actually depicting it.
@idiot_city52447 ай бұрын
Stephen is the best part of the movie by far
@ilove6kies7 ай бұрын
Omg! Finally you guys are reacting to this masterpiece! I know there will be people happy to point out the historical inaccuracies but I’m in the camp of just enjoying great movies and don’t take things so seriously and personally 😊
@thehonestwoodcutterbradywe80117 ай бұрын
Amen
@jp38137 ай бұрын
The spiritual successor to this film is The Patriot (2000), also starring Mel Gibson battling the English complete w/ historical inaccuracies. Both movies have fantastic musical scores by James Horner & John Williams.
@testgravityy7 ай бұрын
And following that Last of the Mohicans
@naughty.r0bot7 ай бұрын
James Horner is my top "gone too soon" person in the industry. His scores for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Glory, Titanic, and numerous others are epic, and hold up against anything Williams, Zimmerman or Goransson have done
@jp38137 ай бұрын
@@naughty.r0bot *Zimmer The Mask of Zorro is one of the most underrated Horner scores.
@AnOldYoungGuy7 ай бұрын
"Longshanks" was a mocking nickname given to the king because of being tall. He was six-two, which was unusual at the time.
@peteg4757 ай бұрын
The real Edward the First certainly earned his fearful reputation
@artsed087 ай бұрын
Not mocking at all - then, as now, tall people were lauded more than short people.
@scofield34677 ай бұрын
It´s more stupid that ppl still say Napoleon was small where in fact he was totally fine back then. Imagine what a shitty personality a lot of ppl have to take beauty standards from today to mock a person from 200 years ago.
@peteg4757 ай бұрын
They opened his tomb in the 1770s, and that's how they know for sure that he was six feet, two inches tall.
@campagnollo7 ай бұрын
One of the strange oddities of this movie are Wallace's lieutenants. Hamish is played by Brendan Gleeson who is Irish while Stephen, the import from Ireland, is played by David O'Hara who is Scottish.
@rickrobinson68247 ай бұрын
Much like in Highlander with a Scot being played by a Frenchman and an Egyptian played by a Scot. 😂
@joshbates90157 ай бұрын
I noticed the same thing in The King. I found it funny that they had Timothee Chalamet, a Frenchman, play Henry V, while also casting Robert Pattinson, an Englishman, as the French Dauphin.
@manutgop7 ай бұрын
If you're going all in on inaccuracies, why stop at only the plot? 😂
@scorpiouk59147 ай бұрын
That is hilarious! A classic movie here in the States is "Gone With The Wind". A major protagonist is Gerald O' Hara, who was Irish.
@BarryHart-xo1oy7 ай бұрын
Yes,from an ethnic perspective it would have made more sense to have Hamish played by David O’Hara and have Stephen portrayed by Mr. Gleeson.
@kevinmatthew10507 ай бұрын
One of my all time favorite movies. It has everything. Amazing music, scenery, action, love story.
@tehdipstick7 ай бұрын
Something not everyone is aware of is that a spinoff/sequel to Braveheart came out in 2019, called Robert the Bruce. It takes place several years after the death of William Wallace and is centered around, well, Robert the Bruce, starring Angus Macfadyen, the same actor who portrayed him in Braveheart. I haven't heard many people talk about it, so I don't know how well known it is, or how it would do on a poll, but just figured I'd put it out there just in case.
@bigdream_dreambig7 ай бұрын
It doesn't share even one writer, director, or producer with Braveheart, and the production company is entirely different too, so there's no way you can link the two films by calling the newer one a sequel. The only connection is in the similarity of their historical source material (and the shared actor).
@cyatic7 ай бұрын
Another great would be Excalibur from 1981. It’s the best version of King Arthur, and you’ll see great actor who were up and coming. They’re totally legends now. Such an excellent film!
@sudzy27797 ай бұрын
Somehow, I've never seen this one. I'm going to look it up today. I've always loved the First Knight Arthur telling from 95 with Richard Gere.
@cyatic7 ай бұрын
@@sudzy2779 Hellen Mirren, Gabriel Byrne, Liam Neeson, Patrick Stewart, Ciaran Hinds, Nicol Williamson, definitely an all-star cast!
@chrispeel31237 ай бұрын
Not historically accurate but it captures the legend of Arthur better than any other film I've seen. And visually it's glorious.
@markadams39767 ай бұрын
A lot of the bowmen that fought for the English were actually Welsh who were considered particularly skilled with the bow. All Englishmen were required by law for many years to regularly train with the longbow and to this day a lot of churchyards have Yew trees in them which were planted to ensure a supply of suitable wood for longbows.
@PhuckYT127 ай бұрын
Wasn't it usually once a week at minimum? If I recall correctly it would usually be Saturday or Sunday when they would practice, but it probably varied.
@MrHws5mp7 ай бұрын
Not quite. The practice bit is right enough, but English yew wasn't straight enough for bows. Most English bows were made from Spanish yew, which was paid as an import tax on Spanish wine. Basically, for every cask of wine you wanted to bring into the country, you had to provide x number of bow staves or pay a LOT of money (more than the cost of the bow staves).
@PhuckYT127 ай бұрын
@@MrHws5mp I've played enough RuneScape to know how expensive bow staves can get.
@Trebor747 ай бұрын
Actually,yew trees are planted in graveyards because the seeds are poisonous and stop animals rooting around in the soil. It also dates back to pagan times as it can release a hallucinogenic vapour in spring,and was considered a doorway to the dead.
@BarryHart-xo1oy7 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out.
@malcolmbell52667 ай бұрын
One of the funniest things I have ever seen is the comedian Stewart Lee doing a routine about this movie to a Glasgow audience. The man has balls of steel
@Bhaalgorn23027 ай бұрын
"She was a real historical figure, that French Princess, but at the time of Wallace's death she was only 4 years old... Now I'm not saying that William Wallace didn't have sex with her... He probably did. But if he did, it would have been a far less romantic scene."
@rx7dude20067 ай бұрын
The film was never meant to be a history lesson, it was made to inspire.
@jacobwalsh18887 ай бұрын
Yeah, sorry, I can't get inspiration if the historical inaccuracies are so blatant and also cornerstones of the plot.
@tSp2897 ай бұрын
It was a great story, I just wish they admitted it was a fantasy and set it in a fantasy kingdom.
@redted123456 ай бұрын
Yeah, sorry, nobody gives a shit what you think.
@Jamiiemac7 ай бұрын
Another good film on Netflix is outlaw king, based on Robert the Bruce. Set around this era and just after. A lot more accurate but still dramatised
@LacoSinfonia7 ай бұрын
It’s fantastic. The scene in Greyfriars church was so well done and caught me completely off guard.
@gabagool_and_psychiatry48567 ай бұрын
the black : "whats my fookin name!!?"
@ZenzeroCAM7 ай бұрын
The Black Douglas is the best in that whole film. Such a badass
@ScotsSovereign1437 ай бұрын
@@ZenzeroCAM Damn right he was the one they feared if the history books are true. Plus he was loyal to the Bruce taking the Bruce heart to the Holy land.
@joelwillis20437 ай бұрын
There is nothing more accurate than Brave heart. Mel Gibson is a genius.
@shaunk69257 ай бұрын
"Say what you want about Mel Gibson, but the man knows story structure." -Character on South Park (not Cartman)
@jdnaz12887 ай бұрын
Wasn't it that one General who said that in Imaginationland, when they were interviewing film directors?
@user-hy5he7ks4j7 ай бұрын
@@jdnaz1288 yes, it was General in the first episode of Imaginationland, not Cartman.
@shaunk69257 ай бұрын
@@jdnaz1288Actually you're 100% right, I had misremembered it. It was when they were interviewing movie directors - my favorite is still the Michael Bay one 😂 Anyway, I'll edit my comment
@jdeamaral7 ай бұрын
I heard the gentleman state that, "she is ridiculously gorgeous." This is a SERIOUS STATEMENT that should be used, only 4 times in life.
@oneopinion68067 ай бұрын
My first viewing of Braveheart was in the cinema and not knowing anything about the history I was floored at the end when, unlike most fantasy sorts of historical movies, he wasn't saved from execution. Just a huge cinematic impact for me as a young moviegoer at the time!
@stinkbug43217 ай бұрын
If he was saved at the end that would have been something to yell about how inaccurate the movie was, not all of the other little nit picky points.
@oneopinion68067 ай бұрын
@@stinkbug4321 Perhaps, but don't under estimate the ignorance of the general public (myself included.) As of my seeing it in the theaters I had never heard of the name William Wallace.
@corvus80007 ай бұрын
So George is right that the "Wallace being the real father of Isabella's son" arc is total fabrication (and yes, impossible, Isabella was a 10 year old girl when Wallace was executed and her son was born several *years* later). But when you know the history there's far more of a calculated insult in this plot line. One, Isabella herself is legendary as the "she-wolf of France" and a major figure in English history in her own right, and second, her son, Edward III, is considered one of England's greatest monarchs, so much so that there's a push by many historians to have him granted the title "Edward Magnus" (i.e. Edward the Great). So suffice to say, this little invention in the plot is basically trying to take away some of the greatest moments in England's history. Oh yeah, and Edward I "Longshanks" is definitely not at all the monster portrayed in the movie. Instead he was actually known as a man of honor, a kind and devoted father, son and husband, and a figure so respected that one of the biggest problems the Scots claimants to the throne (John Balliol, Joh Comyn, Robert the Bruce etc) had was that Scottish nobles simply preferred Edward as King because they felt he was a better man and a better monarch. You also have to bear in mind that a lot of the Scots noble houses were part of the international francophone caste that dominated Western Europe.. they saw themselves as Christian, French-speaking nobles first and Scots second so being ruled by someone who was also part of that class like Edward even though he was based out of England(plus quite a few of them knew him and his brother Edmund personally from crusading with him in Outremer and other shared ventures), was really not a big issue to them (basically nationalism as we know it wasn't really full formed yet, though in their ways the stories of Wallace and Robert the Bruce would become part of creating it in Scotland).
@alharron21457 ай бұрын
While it's fair to say Edward wasn't without his good qualities, particularly his devotion to his wife & contributions to later English democracy, to the people of Scotland & Wales he absolutely was a tyrant (like many monarchs of the middle ages). The sack of Berwick, the siege of Stirling, & the treatment of Wallace & other patriots (his murder at the end of the film is actually *tame* compared to the reality) went beyond the pale, as did his expulsion of the Jews from England in his reign. The Scottish nobilities' connections to the Norman aristocracy complicated matters, but the Church & peasantry had other ideas, hence the examples of the Northern Rising under Andrew de Moray & the kirk's defiance under Bishop Wishart. True, there were differences in how people viewed nationhood compared to today, but they weren't absent either, as evidenced by the Declaration of Arbroath & QlWallace's campaign.
@PhuckYT127 ай бұрын
@yt45204 Mel Gibson isn't Australian, he's American. He was born in the US and his only other citizenship is from Ireland.
@nodruj86817 ай бұрын
English boys seething, the man called for the genocide of the scots, such honour
@richardstephens55707 ай бұрын
@@PhuckYT12 People think he's Australian because his family moved there when he was 12 years old. And he began his career doing Australian films.
@PhuckYT127 ай бұрын
@@richardstephens5570 Ah, didn't know that. They can have him if we can have the Hemsworths
@moose25777 ай бұрын
Campbell was Hamish's father. Played by James Cosmo, who also played Lord Commander Mormont in Game of Thrones. He was also one of the coal miners in Chernobyl.
@jamesalexander56237 ай бұрын
And a Trojan General in "Troy"!
@WilliamTheMovieFan7 ай бұрын
George didn’t read enough. Wallace’s wife was killed by the sheriff and Wallace avenged her death very similarly to what happened in the film. Also, Wallace’s death in the film was pretty accurate to what really happened. In real life they didn’t give him the choice of a quick death and he never yelled “Freedom!”
@Matrim427 ай бұрын
I mean, the bit about his wife comes from Blind Harry, which is a highly dubious source.
@ganymeade2757 ай бұрын
That did not happen. It was added to his legend in a poem almost 200 years after his death. No contemporary source ever mentions it.
@stephenniehaus86357 ай бұрын
Longshanks in this movie is one of the all time great cinema villains. He doesn't get the credit. He's smug, self serving, hateful, cruel, and without mercy. Great actor
@jacob49207 ай бұрын
He's like Emperor Palpatine, but a thousand times less ugly, and about a million times less likely to blow up a planet. lol
@stephenniehaus86357 ай бұрын
@@jacob4920 Palpatine is cartoonishly evil. Everything he says is loaded with malice and wickedness. Not really believable
@nebularain33387 ай бұрын
Every single film based on historical events is inaccurate, but Braveheart seems to get unfairly singled out for it. It's not even the worst offender either. Truth is, it's a feature film, and as such it has absolutely no obligation to be accurate, It's there to entertain, and it does that job extremely well. If anyone wants accuracy, then they should watch a documentary.
@harrywhittingham77537 ай бұрын
Despite the inaccuracies a very patriotic and moving movie. Highly recommend The Outlaw King which follows on from Wallace's death. Another great (but not accurate) historical Scottish movie which is criminally overlooked is Rob Roy starring Liam Neeson and is set in Jacobite times.
@danielleeskelton7 ай бұрын
Rob Roy is a great film. Hope they react to it at some point.
@Kinitawowi7 ай бұрын
There's a story that one of the local extras asked about the bridge, and Mel's reply was that it got in the way. The extra's response? "Aye, that's what the English found too."
@darthmaul137 ай бұрын
I was born in Scotland & have friends & family there, When they went to see it in the theater, at the end of the film the whole audience cheered & stood and applauded. Technically it is historically accurate. But things like the kilt didn’t come into existence till the 16th century & the bagpipes were invented after this. The Scot’s didn’t win their freedom and Robert the Bruce was also hung drawn & quartered. But it’s the spirit of the film that makes it so good.
@scottjo765 ай бұрын
The Scots DID win the wars of independence, after Wallace was killed Bruce won the Battle of Bannockburn, which was THE decisive battle in the wars. Scotland was largely independent from that time on till the union of the crowns and the subsequent political union with England. As for Kilts....the great kilt would have been worn by the highlanders at this time....the kilt as it is now is a modern version of the old great plaid. Bagpipes have been around for thousands of years in one form of another, more than likely the Romans introduced them to the British isles and from there developed into what is now the Irish War Pipe, the great Highland war pipe etc It's difficult to say whether they were around in the 13th century but possibly in an earlier form Hope that clears you up a bit
@TheOli4D7 ай бұрын
Kinda sad that the whole focus of their reaction is on the inaccuracies rather than how great this film is directed, how amazing the soundtrack, how good the costumes, the many many extras for the battle scenes, etc. etc.
@poppyleon_62757 ай бұрын
YES!! Agreed, and since they deemed it historically inaccurate, treated it like a comedy and laughed through the entire film. Went right over their heads...
@yotuel90647 ай бұрын
Pretty normal, their opinions were already warped by "this film is pretty inacurate" before the viewing of the film for multiple people.
@la_beatrice7 ай бұрын
I get the qualities of the film, brilliant score, beautiful scenes, very easy to root for Wallace and all of that but I was never able to love this film. And it's not just the inaccuracies, it always felt a bit gradiose but silly for me. Maybe it's just me never being able to take Mel Gibson seriously, but between the "innacurate" ones, I'll take Gladiator over Braveheart easily. So I kinda get their reaction. Not everyone is going to be equally engaged by every movie, even every good movie.
@kjek17 ай бұрын
Probably because any time anyone watches this film every dullard on KZfaq races to the comments to talk about how only the bare bones story is accurate and loads of the rest is made up. It’s tedious man
@CineBingeReact7 ай бұрын
I feel like you guys may have misheard or misunderstood me. Because at the start i said that we've been told many times this was inaccurate, so that people will stop telling us that, but i also said that we dont know much about Scottish history and there for we dont know what is actually inaccurate, which is why we asked people to point it out to us. We both actually said in this video in the after movie discussion that we loved this movie even if its not accurate and that we dont care that it isnt. Perhaps you missed that bit?
@positivelynegative91497 ай бұрын
The hate this film got/gets is bullshit. No one involved in its production ever claimed the film was historically accurate. It's an artistic interpretation, just like many, many other films about actual historical figures/events; films that never received such scrutiny. 🤷♂️
@AuspexAO7 ай бұрын
A. No one "hates" Braveheart. It's a great action war flick that's obviously just an anti-English film. Not like the English don't see plenty of those, lol. Also, yes they do. You're probably just not watching a lot of historical films and engaging in discourse in them. Literally everyone loves to talk about historical accuracy in movies.
@redted123456 ай бұрын
You’re being disingenuous.
@geckogo73283 ай бұрын
I watched Braveheart at the cinema and was blown away. Much later I heard there were historical inaccuracies and was really interested to learn what the actual history was and to find out the anachronisms. Back in the day, the biggest contoversy was whether you preferred the natural beauty of Wallace's wife or the sophisticated beauty of the French princess. I'm with George on this.
@denisescutt18656 ай бұрын
They usually hung ( not until dead) wracked him to break his bones then disemboweled him. Took away his stomachs. They usually burned the bowels and stomachs on the fire in front of the victim. The blue dye was called WODE. Hence the colour of the Scottish flag. Blue and white. The man who played the King Longshanks( long legged) was our great English/ Irish actor Patrick McGowan. Rest in peace sir.
@billbillinger21177 ай бұрын
It was funny to me looking back at the reaction people had about this film....as though it was supposed to be a documentary and not a Hollywood movie.😂
@chriskimmel72527 ай бұрын
Don't care if it's inaccurate it's still a fantastic movie
@cthulhucollector7 ай бұрын
It's not a documentary so it doesn't have to be accurate.....
@JoshuaDay05507 ай бұрын
@@cthulhucollector EXACTLY
@nebularain33387 ай бұрын
@@cthulhucollector100%!
@nsasupporter75577 ай бұрын
Yes, most people hate that movies are inaccurate to what they’re based on. I can see their point, but some some movies are still good regardless
@acrobat897 ай бұрын
From IMDB: "When asked by a local why the Battle of Stirling Bridge was filmed on an open plain, Gibson answered that "the bridge got in the way." "Aye," the local answered. "That's what the English found."
@brandondornan95247 ай бұрын
It might not be "historically accurate" but in my opinion, it is one of the best movies ever made! Has alot of heart, and a very quotable movie! And I would go as far to say, it's one of the greatest love stories of all time!
@grunions96487 ай бұрын
I implore you to watch the comedian Stewart Lee doing a bit about Braveheart in front of a Glasgow audience. It's solid gold.
@nathankilburn19537 ай бұрын
I second this...the guts to do that in front of a Scottish audience. It's one of my favourite pieces of stand up; but he got away with it as he is, technically, Scotch.
@aidanrock87197 ай бұрын
@@nathankilburn1953 He's technically scotch is he? A roll of plastic adhesive tape? Christ, I'd never heard that before, good on him for figuring out the comedy circuit
@bhurzumii43157 ай бұрын
"I am a gay" - William "Braveheart" Wallace
@grunions96487 ай бұрын
@@aidanrock8719 Give him some credit, he was doing it for comic effect, with all shortbread crumbs all over his face.
@nathankilburn19537 ай бұрын
@@bhurzumii4315 and we know that's what it said, because the clue is in the name 'Gaelic'
@abq45657 ай бұрын
0:26 most people who criticize this movie for historical inaccuracy didn't even know who William Wallace is before this movie comeout.
@motorcycleboy90007 ай бұрын
Commenting just to be corrected: this is more or less Robert Bruce's story, with some William Wallace splashed in. Like Temujin's story mixed with Subodai, or Geranimo's story mixed with Sitting Bull. It's still a good damn story. There's a reason these legends fighting impossible empires still exist. We like the guys who told em to fugg off.
@ThistleAndSea7 ай бұрын
Nice one, you two! Braveheart came out the same summer as two other Celtic themed movies. Rob Roy and also The Secret Of Roan Inish, both of which are very good too. It was a summer of Maximum Celticity. Thanks for sharing this one. 🙂
@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.7 ай бұрын
Hollywood isn't history. However, this only ever seems to be brought up in relation to 'Braveheart' People will lap up Saving Private Ryan, Shindlers List, Twelve Years a Slave, etc... as if they're fly on the wall documentaries and only engage their brains for 'Braveheart'
@MoonageDaydream.7 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed this too. Very odd…
@redted123457 ай бұрын
Noticing things is dangerous, you should stop that right now.
@Mubiki7 ай бұрын
I noticed it a lot more after Mel Gibson said some unsavory things during a pretty bad period of his life. (whether he holds those views and all times or currently is not for me to say) It definitely fell out of favor due to that, and it was the easiet way to criticize a film he made and starred in after it was well received upon it's release. I saw similar reactions to films produced by Harvey Weinstein's former company as well. Histroy as certainly shown us that the way people behave in real life affects people's opinons on their art, or their willingness to criticize it.
@Anthony-kw4en7 ай бұрын
Just a coincidence!!!
@eschatological7 ай бұрын
Saving Private Ryan has no historical characters in it besides maybe the generals at the beginning. Their stories can't be historically inaccurate, they didn't exist. It is roughly based on a set of actual brothers where the policy of sending the last one alive home came about, the rest is fiction. Schindler's List is about a real man and his actions in he movie roughly reflect what he did in real life, but more heroically - in reality, like any Nazi who was trying to subvert the Third Reich, he was complicit in a lot of shit. Twelve Years a Slave is, again, lauded for its accurate depictions of slavery. Sounds like you're just on some "poor old white man" shit.
@jarrodoakley69117 ай бұрын
“Let’s not dwell on historical history inaccuracies” Also:”let’s reference Highlander a lot” 😂
@Penddraig77 ай бұрын
Highlander is not trying to be a historical film though based on historical people, Highlander is clearly a fantasy film, so that’s a false equivalence
@jarrodoakley69117 ай бұрын
@@Penddraig7 they are talking about lot about films that take place in the “past” like Highlander and LotR which are intentionally not accurate to the past of real life. So by referencing these false pasta they are still dwelling on historical inaccuracies. It’s not a knock on them, it’s making movie references, just thought it was funny. I hope now that I explained the joke you can find it funny too
@Penddraig77 ай бұрын
@@jarrodoakley6911 it would help if you could write a coherent comment. The point remains, Highlander and LotR are both fantasy stories with no basis in reality, Braveheart is a historical film about actual historical events and actual historical people and therefore the comparison doesn’t make any sense, whether you were saying it to be a passive aggressive dick or whether you were trying to be funny, the result is the same because either way it hinges on the comparison being an actual comparison, the point I made is still valid
@jarrodoakley69117 ай бұрын
@@Penddraig7 you are a ruiner of things.
@Penddraig77 ай бұрын
@@jarrodoakley6911 not a ruiner of things, just pointing out your very obvious flaw in your comment which makes no sense at all and is a completely false equivalence, you are comparing two completely unrelated comments by George. You not being that bright is not down to me, you wrote your comment, not me, so don’t try and flip it onto me, you ruined your own comment by making it in the first place 🤦♂️ Part of life is about making mistakes, taking accountability for those mistakes and learning from those mistakes in order to grow and become a better person. Whether you are trying to be passive aggressive or make a joke, if the execution of it fails then you failed, take it as a life lesson, grow from it
@rbrtck7 ай бұрын
"MacAulish" is (Scottish) Gaelic for "Son of Wallace". They started out chanting that version of William's surname, and then switched to "Wallace!"
@TheSpydyr7 ай бұрын
What you didn't "see" at the end when he was being tortured, was him being castrated, then disemboweled. Even though there was a lot of "inaccuracies" in this movie, it's still an amazing movie in itself, with a great story line. The acting for that time (1995) was amazing and well done too. I very clearly remember when this came out in 1995. I went to the movie theater for 3 straight days and watched it 3 times in a row because I loved it so much. It was my favorite movie for a very long time. Still in my top 5 easily.
@viktorwallaby42317 ай бұрын
A movie is a movie, you should interpret it that way, 99.99% of movies are historically inaccurate, that's what documentaries are for, that being said, this movie was and is a beautiful story
@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.7 ай бұрын
Another curious fact about Braveheart The actor who played "Hamish" is actually Irish in real life and the actor who played "Stephen" is actually Scottish in real life
@ScotsSovereign1437 ай бұрын
Another fact Braveheart was the name given to King Robert De Brus aka Robert the Bruce
@55titles127 ай бұрын
Scottish person here, the inaccuracy comes from the implication that William Wallace was not 7ft tall, didn't shoot Fireballs from his eyes and didn't shoot bolts of lightning from his arse....these are completely true and it's a disgrace this movie implied otherwise
@IsraelShekelberg7 ай бұрын
True history: For a long time Scotland and France coordinated strategies against England. This relationship was called the 'Auld Alliance' in Scottish. As to 'Longshanks', I was very entertained by a passage in a coffee-table book on the English royals: 'Surely one of our greatest monarchs was Edward I...' He is 'great' chiefly for well-planned aggression, among other things for defeating the barons who had created the House of Commons, conquering Wales, driving the Jews out of England, and numerous forays against Scotland. He is generally reviled in those countries. He ordered the building of state-of the-art castles in Wales, though, that are major tourist attractions. Edward thought of himself as a second King Arthur and had actual Round Tables manufactured for festivals with jousting and music and so on. So he did provide some entertainment for his people.
@campagnollo7 ай бұрын
If you watch Game of Thrones, there are two actors from this. Campbell is played by James Cosmo and is Jeor Mormont in GoT. Also, Lord Bottoms, the English Lord who came by the festival to claim Prima Nocta, is played by Rupert Vansittart and is Yohn Royce in GoT.
@defunctus4087 ай бұрын
Cosmo is also in "Troy" which has a lot of GoT alumni.
@dcanmore7 ай бұрын
Be seeing you 👌@@blechtic
@dracoargentum97837 ай бұрын
29:49 I always find it humorously ironic that just after he throws Phillip off the tower, Longshanks started wondering who was sacrificial to send to meet Wallace.
@agp110017 ай бұрын
Looking down "damn, could've sent *that* dingbat."
@lazyperfectionist17 ай бұрын
10:30 "Yeah. See? It's not raining at _all."_ Maybe not at the moment, but Scotland is a _very_ rainy country. There's this joke that, in Scotland, a clothesline is a place where you hang clothes up to be _rinsed._
@choomah7 ай бұрын
"Outlaw King" is a must after this. It follows the story of Robert the Bruce, after Wallace.
@nicks.55527 ай бұрын
22:55 Simone’s Highlander joke is the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while! 😆
@serlotsadoe7 ай бұрын
Wow I remember renting this on VHS from Blockbuster on spring break back in the day. 😂 We watched it like 3x before we returned it 😎 historical accuracy be damned...this is a great action flick.
@haroldlipschitz93017 ай бұрын
I'm with George...I was a teen when this was in the cinema and I completely fell in love with Sophie Marceau (and English spoken in a French accent) for ever more... Fun fact: Edward I reigned in the Norman period when English monarchs and nobility were mostly speaking Old French as a first language
@connorhumphreys96375 ай бұрын
This movie got 10 nominations, winning 5 oscars, including Mel winning best director and best producer. Its perfect, in every way
@1ncredulous7 ай бұрын
Movies are not about historical accuracy. It’s like complaining about the syntax of a poem. It’s meant to communicate emotions and ideas, not provide a history lesson.
@magicbrownie13577 ай бұрын
I don't care if I understand what Simone is talking about in her openings or not. LOVE THEM! The weirder, the better! Go girl!
@df69577 ай бұрын
Hamish's Dad, as you kept on referring to him is a power-house of a Scottish actor, James Cosmo. He was later in Game of Thrones as the commander of the forces on the wall, and also played Robert the Bruce's Dad in the movie "Outlaw King" a few years ago. He was interviewed some years ago and said that he spoke with the script writers and complimented them as they had written a script that had captured an idea of a Scottish identity that he felt was going to grow. He felt proud that he had been part of a film that would help raise the idea of an independent Scotland. Outlaw King is definitely worth watching, though it has some inaccuracies, it does spend quite a lot of time and effort on period details and shows the relationship between Edward Longshanks and Robert the Bruce's father...
@davidmckie71287 ай бұрын
The film was set in the 13th century and the scots didn't wear kilts until the 6th century. Also the blue paint was (as George said) done by the brits to the Romans (it was called Woad).
@stras6767 ай бұрын
The quote I always remember about Braveheart when it came out was from a historian on TV being interviewed and asking, "why have they got Wallace living in a Hobbit village?"
@canceltheapocalypse81907 ай бұрын
“At last, you know what it means to hate. Now you're ready to be a king.” Epic line.
@sowianskiwojownik59737 ай бұрын
Even better when Robert's response was "My hate will die with you."
@simonfrederiksen1047 ай бұрын
2:13 While there were some filming locations in Scotland, Ireland provided a lot of locations Church of St Nicholas, Dunsany Castle Dunsoghly Castle Coronation Plantation in the Sally Gap, Wicklow Mountains The Curragh Plains Trim Castle Ballymore Eustace Blessington Lakes Bective Abbey
@ChosenOne199116 күн бұрын
Fun fact Brian Cox, Brendan Gleeson, & James Cosmo all come out in another historical war epic together. Troy.
@hanskneesun1237 ай бұрын
Stewart Lee did a stand up routine to a Glaswegian crowd that tore strips off the historical accuracy of this film, it's a must watch on how to fearlessly roast your audience.
@Chris_347 ай бұрын
I've seen that a couple of times and it's epic. When he points out that the French princess would've been a small child which would've made Wallace a pedo😂.
@bignumbers7 ай бұрын
Stewart Lee? More like Poo-art Wee
@nodruj86817 ай бұрын
who? never heard of him?
@bignumbers7 ай бұрын
@@nodruj8681 Joe Pasquale
@SamFerguson7 ай бұрын
I love epic films, and I also love history. So I unironically love this movie, while also recognizing its egregious historical inaccuracies. (You covered some of these at the end of the video, which I watched after typing all this up. So apologies for any repeats.) The depiction of Wallace's family (and of Scotland in general) as backwater mud-farmers is pure fantasy. Scotland was a reasonably-developed European power by the end of the 13th Century - not as wealthy, powerful, or influential as England or France, but also not a barbaric mud-hole. And Wallace's father was a knight, landowner, and minor noble. There are a lot of other inaccuracies, but I consider that to be the most narratively-impactful. I won't list all of the others (again, you covered a lot of them at the end of the video), but the other big one is less important to the story, but arguably a bigger "detail" to get wrong: The actual Battle of Stirling (the first major battle depicted in the film, where the Scots use the chiltrons (long spears) for the first time) was actually the Battle of Stirling Bridge. And the Scottish victory had more to do with the fact that the English had to deploy their heavy cavalry over a narrow bridge and onto muddy terrain, than with the innovative use of the chiltrons - although that was a relatively new innovation, deployed by the Scots against the English cavalry at many other battles of the Scottish Wars of Independence - so it's logical to assume they would've been deployed at Stirling as well. Obviously the English as a whole, and Edward I (the "Longshanks") in particular, are played as straight-up cartoon villains. The movie needed really galling bad guys so that the revenge plot would feel especially satisfying. And for a film presented largely from the Scottish side of the conflict, from that perspective, the English *were* villains. "Prima nocta", as an actual institution, may be largely ahistorical. But as happens any time in history when a more powerful nation oppresses a weaker one, the English interactions with the Scottish were very brutal. It's less that the English would never do something like that, and more that we simply don't have evidence that it was an organized, institutional "thing". Despite all of its inaccuracies, I think this movie succeeds majorly on two fronts: 1) As cinema, it's almost perfect. It's emotional and heartbreaking and satisfying. The production still holds up pretty well in 2023, and in 1995 it was absolutely groundbreaking. This movie's success sort of signaled to big studios that epic period pieces could be successful, and we got a lot of big epics in the late 1990s and early 2000s as a result (e.g. 'Gladiator' in 2000). And as goofy as Mel's accent (and his hair extensions) were, he gave a great performance - as did many others in the movie. The cinematography, James Horner's score, etc. - all magnificent. 2) Although a lot of the details are wrong, I do feel like the movie accurately captured the *nature* of the Scottish Wars of Independence, at least in a way that a modern movie-going audience could understand them. The power discrepancy between the Scottish and English armies (what we might call an "asymmetric conflict" today) that required the Scots to use innovative tactics, the duplicitous nature of the aristocracy on both sides (who were often, as the movie version of Edward I says, just as rich in English lands as they were in Scottish lands) and the shifting allegiances, etc. So it's a bad movie if you want accurate historical detail about this period in British history, but it's a great movie if you want an accurate *feeling* about the period (at least insomuch as we understand it today). I'm glad y'all watched this one. Warts and all, it's one of my favorite movies.
@tremorsfan7 ай бұрын
Apparently a local crew member asked the same question about the bridge. When Mel Gibson said they had a problem with it the crew member laughed and said "ay, so did the English".
@Mugthraka7 ай бұрын
6:40 Sophie Marceau, Famous and beloved french actress, is a stupidly gorgeous and natural beauty. Even now when she's 57, she's amazingly gorgeous. Her career is long (she started at 13yro) and Varied, she did everything from comedy, to romance, to thrillers and adventures. She did Theatres play and other things too She was interntionaly knowed as One of the Bond Girls in The World Isn't Enough in '99 as Elektra King.
@jdnaz12887 ай бұрын
A main villain in TWINE, no less.
@daneng36417 ай бұрын
...and one of the best Bond villains of all time.
@jdnaz12887 ай бұрын
@@daneng3641 As well, as one of the sexiest Bond Girls, ever.
@richiecabral36027 ай бұрын
It's great that you started by saying that Scotland ia gorgeous, because most of it was shot in Northern Ireland. I'm not sure if this movie was actually the beginning of them building an industry there, but it has become a popular place to shoot. Basically anything in "The North" in Game Of Thrones was shot there, among other things. They did shoot some stuff in Scotland, because some scenic shots just couldn't be faked, and only exist in Scotland, but otherwise... One of my favorite pieces of trivia about this movie is that even though the cast is a mix of Scottish, Irish, English, and whatever else actors, because it was mainly shot in Northern Ireland, it was obviously logistically easier to get Irish actors, like the Great Brendan Gleeson, that played Scottish, but the one character in the movie that's actually supposed to be Irish, was played by a Scotsman. I've always just enjoyed the irony of it.
@dcanmore7 ай бұрын
mostly shot in the Republic of Ireland (County Wicklow, Kildare and Ardmore Studios Dublin) as they got tax breaks from the Irish Government and the use of the Irish Army Reserve for the battle scenes. However three weeks filming was done in Scotland.
@richiecabral36027 ай бұрын
@@dcanmore oh, thank you. Guess I've been wrong all this time.
@csurampower7 ай бұрын
Movie nerd at the edge of a large storm drain: "Braveheart is not historically accurate!" Tommy Lee Jones: "I DON'T CARE"
@finesupplements96987 ай бұрын
It’s funny how many people claim so many things about this movie are historically inaccurate yet have ZERO idea what really happened, but will believe a random website written by a random person 🤣.
@adasga7 ай бұрын
I watch this movie once or twice every year, an absolute masterpiece.
@MrMattias877 ай бұрын
According to mel gibson from the braveheart dvd commentary, he knew that stirling was a bridge battle, but he wanted to show what a typical medieval battle looked like and wanted to showcase typical medieval tactics on the field. So I suppose he was historically accurate in showing that rather than the actual historical battlefield.
@Murdo21127 ай бұрын
He's full of shit.
@dongilleo97437 ай бұрын
To me, the Stirling battle is a continuation of a plot thread going back to the beginning of the movie, showing Wallace as a superior tactician. A young Wallace shows interest in Argyle's sword, but Argyle vows to teach Wallace "how to use this"(tapping him on the forehead, signifying his brain) and THEN "how to use this"(the sword). When Wallace returns to his village as an adult, he is challenged by Hamish to the stone throwing competition. Hamish, being physically stronger, can throw a much larger, heavier stone, but it misses Wallace. Wallace in turn, throws a smaller stone, but can throw it much more accurately, striking Hamish in the head. Skill and accuracy is better than pure strength. The Stirling battle is an uneven match. In a straightforward fight, the Scottish forces are badly outnumbered by the superior English forces, and would likely be defeated. All the English have to do is pelt the Scottish forces with accurate arrow volleys until they break ranks, then ride them down with their heavy cavalry. Wallace rides out before the battle "to pick a fight". He berates and insults the English leaders in a deliberate attempt to provoke and anger them into an ill conceived and hasty attack. The trick with the long spears can only work if the English blindly charge into them, while the mounted Scottish forces feign retreat, only to circle around and take out the English archers. Wallace leads the Scots to victory through guile, subterfuge, and superior tactics.
@TimSmith-uc4pk7 ай бұрын
King Edward I was 6’2”. At 6ft 2in ( 188 cm ) he towered over over most of his contemporaries, hence his epithet Longshanks”, meaning long legs or long shins. The historian Micheal Prestwich states that his long arms gave him an advantage as a swordsman, long thighs one as a horseman. He died in 1307.
@rbrtck7 ай бұрын
Actually, I think in the movie Wallace and his closest companions deliberately reached back a thousand years into history to do that warrior face-paint thing. It was a deliberate throwback to another time when the Scottish fought for their freedom. No one else did it, only Wallace and his little posse or cadre of friends and advisors. It wasn't meant to accurately reflect what Scottish people did at the time, even within the story. He did this to inspire his people as an old-school Celtic warrior.
@ethanholgate25127 ай бұрын
I've no problem with movie's taking libraries to what actually happened cause at the end of the day your main focus is make the best movie possible and be as accurate as you can that's how I look at it as bravehart is a truly epic and emotional film
@CATDHD7 ай бұрын
Just how many libraries did it take exactly? If it is more less than 5, then it's ok. If it's more...
@nebularain33387 ай бұрын
@@CATDHDThere's no limit. The Great Escape was mostly fictional, but no one brings that up.
@stevensauer85397 ай бұрын
@@nebularain3338 The Great Escape has libraries in it too? Cool. I must have missed that scene. :)
@Darkja7 ай бұрын
Another one you guys should see is Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut)
@tfpp17 ай бұрын
12:23 - That's what she said. Also, this moment when he's on the horse is the modern-day equivalent of a guy pulling up to the curb and reving his engine and honking for his girl to come out.
@stephenfitzgerald97697 ай бұрын
For the record, the worst form of execution is scaphism: being slathered in honey and eaten alive by ants… 🐜 As inaccurate as this is, it’s definitely a favorite of people around the world. We watched this all the time at my house from when I was twelve onwards.
@DeadpoolTesla7 ай бұрын
My absolute favorite movie of all time. Accuracy - meh. Story, pictures, music - all is perfect! And still after seeing it about 30 times, and maybe the same amount of reactions to it, i still cry every time! Some movies just do that perfect. "Gladiator", "Philadelphia", "LotR: TRotK", "Steel Magnolias".........
@ronaldmcrae48965 ай бұрын
"Philadelphia" is a killer for me, as well as "A River runs Through it". "Hotel New Hampshire" and "Out of Africa"/
@stevensauer85397 ай бұрын
If I want historical accuracy I'll watch a documentary. If I want a damned good story, I'll watch Braveheart. I saw this in the theater when it first came out. It was amazing on the big screen.
@newmoon7667 ай бұрын
My understanding of the knightly class is that they go back to ancient Rome. It was composed of men who weren't nobles, but had enough wealth to own war horses (destriers). So when they were called up for battle, they would ride these horses, which were specifically bred for their large size and fierce temperament. They were, in effect, weapons of war unto themselves.
@RoGueNavy6 ай бұрын
Fun definition: the act of chucking someone out of a high window, is called "defenestration".
@patrickwaldeck66817 ай бұрын
Most of this movie was totally inaccurate bullshit but the execution method was mostly accurate. Being hanged, drawn and quartered was the classic English method for punishing traitors, and it was every bit as brutal as depicted. And yes, people did take their kids to watch executions. The final battle of Bannockburn was also insane and I'm kind of disappointed we didn't see it. The Scots were outnumbered 4 to 1, and Robert used schiltrons, a unit of tightly packed spearmen, to absolutely annihilate the English. Robert also personally a dueled an English knight who charged directly at him during the first day of the battle and killed the guy with a single blow of his warhammer right to the dome. The Scots ended up killing at least an estimated ten thousand English soldiers plus 500 to a thousand knights, which ended aggressive English ambition is Scotland for centuries and eventually led to Scottish independence.