Breaking: A general in wait of justice.

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Жыл бұрын

Journalists Azaz Syed and Umar Cheema discuss the story of Lt.Gen(r)Javed Iqbal who was given 7 years sentence by a military court on the (alleged) charges of spying. The program is originally recorded on 5th of October 2022 and being released a day later on 6th October.

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@zahidchoudhryzahidchoudhry7452
@zahidchoudhryzahidchoudhry7452 Жыл бұрын
Their are always three sides and versions of a story. Yours, Mine and the "TRUTH"
@muhammadyousafali9621
@muhammadyousafali9621 Жыл бұрын
0
@AAhmed79
@AAhmed79 Жыл бұрын
excellent
@bolbandey
@bolbandey Жыл бұрын
whatever, a citizen should be given a fair opportunity to submit his plea in defence. Listen to the last part of this story, now the case is in the HC but for the last few hearing no proceeding has been done. There are many more cases like that in which the date is always fixed but no further progress has been seen. This is not that the court was very busy but the Corut recevied a "call" not proceed into this matter.
@zafarmasood8183
@zafarmasood8183 Жыл бұрын
براہ کرم ایک وی لاگ پاپا جونز پیزا پر بھی کر لیں تاکہ عوام کی یاداشت تازہ ھو کیونکہ ہمارے ملک کے عوام کی اکثریت کی یاداشت کمزور ھو جاتی ھے۔
@akha4075
@akha4075 Жыл бұрын
Good
@MuhammadAshraf-jb8ey
@MuhammadAshraf-jb8ey Жыл бұрын
عمر چیمہ صاحب نے بہت اچھی بات کی ہے دوسری طرف کی بات بھی سامنے آنی چاہیۓ تب ہی انصاف ہو سکتا ہے ۔
@tahermahmood6315
@tahermahmood6315 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Azaz, this is not simple as you are explaining. There may be top secret charges and 'll remain secret.
@adeensyed
@adeensyed Жыл бұрын
True
@mohsinali-zr2wr
@mohsinali-zr2wr Жыл бұрын
Yes General sab wasn’t kaka mahna he was definitely well paid and all this game guy and then NSA guys were after him for a purpose he should’ve written permission from GHQ for all this activity. You are saying he spoke to General Bilal and Bajwa. Verbally what a nonsense are you a kaka mahna ? Seems these two guys are well paid by foreigners 😂 if has documented proofs then y he or his lawyer doesn’t go to Supreme Court
@AAhmed79
@AAhmed79 Жыл бұрын
well said,
@rajamumtaz5078
@rajamumtaz5078 Жыл бұрын
How interesting that a retired Gen is open to such inte resting lucrative offers who knows top state secrets incl nukes and state policies. CIA budget is more than whole Pakistan. So I am not in favour of these 2 shuttle brains discussions openly
@shahzadzafar80
@shahzadzafar80 Жыл бұрын
اعزاز سید ساب ایکس جنرل کی بات کی۔لیکن کبھی دورہ کرہین جیل کا اپ کو سینکڑوں بندے ملین گۓ جو بلکل بے گناہ ہین۔
@asimshaz1
@asimshaz1 Жыл бұрын
بجا فرمایا! 98٪ پاکستانی یہ ذلت رووذانہ برداشت کرتے ہیں-
@mohammadhassan5749
@mohammadhassan5749 Жыл бұрын
عمر واقعی talented ہے اس طرح کے امریکن جو ریسرچر بنے پھرتے ہیں عام طور پر سی آئی اے کے لیے کام کر رہے ہوتے ہیں-
@saeedullahkhan4976
@saeedullahkhan4976 Жыл бұрын
احترام کے ساتھ ! سنجیدہ معاملے کو آخر تک سنجیدہ ھی رہنے دیا جائے -
@aurangzaib1551
@aurangzaib1551 Жыл бұрын
اعزاز سید صاحب آپ کی یہ خدمت ھے آپ دونوں ملکر بہت محنت اور جاں فشانی سے کام کرتے ھیں اور یہ پروگرام آپ دونوں کا قابل ستائش ھے
@afzaalahmad9638
@afzaalahmad9638 Жыл бұрын
I am a regular viewer of Talk Shalk. you guys have been phenomenal. I used to abuse Umar Cheema on Twitter and he was kind enough that he didn't even block me. And I have become an admirer of Umar Cheema Stay blessed both of you!
@Sabha101
@Sabha101 Жыл бұрын
You are brave and honest.
@uzmakhalid284
@uzmakhalid284 Жыл бұрын
According to a recent survey,The survey revealed that only 9% of Pakistanis are keen readers and 75% aren’t reading any book outside their syllabus. That too is only to pass their exams. : social media can play a vital role in the promotion of books. Social media can be used as a tool to promote book reading. Writers and book readers can initiate discussions about the books, which will catch the attention of social media users and eventually they will get attracted to read books. Very good vlog of brave journalist as always. Thanks 🙏
@Sajidkhan-tk5pm
@Sajidkhan-tk5pm Жыл бұрын
If he is charged for dealing with American . Then Bajwa deserves more severe punishment because he conspired against elected government.
@abdulrashidwaraich1324
@abdulrashidwaraich1324 Жыл бұрын
There must be a serious matter . A General ordinarily is not tried unless there are serious offences.
@hannanatiqsiddiqui
@hannanatiqsiddiqui Жыл бұрын
or unless COAS doesnt like him
@ayshakundi1723
@ayshakundi1723 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, our justice system is a whole ordeal.
@Raja-zr2by
@Raja-zr2by Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right👍
@fatihabushra635
@fatihabushra635 Жыл бұрын
It seems that Bajwa was afraid of him. Justice must be given.
@AsifMalik-jv5xx
@AsifMalik-jv5xx Жыл бұрын
Bajwa and bilal Akbar are responsible. Bajwa did this and made scapegoat of Lt. General Javed Iqbal for his extension. InshaAllah he will be released soon.
@amat-ar-rahman5514
@amat-ar-rahman5514 Жыл бұрын
This earth has witnessed so many injustices! Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon
@deepthinker2671
@deepthinker2671 Жыл бұрын
Allah behtari farmaye, AMEEN
@abidamunsif6945
@abidamunsif6945 Жыл бұрын
Allah bless the innocent Man.
@shahidjamil6605
@shahidjamil6605 Жыл бұрын
Good topic, i know him Gen sb very nice and great gentleman person.
@mjameeljameel3716
@mjameeljameel3716 Жыл бұрын
ایاز صاحب آپ کا یہ پروگرام اچھا تھا
@abdussattar4574
@abdussattar4574 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new story..with truths u know..keep it up u both gentlemen
@fauziawaqar1978
@fauziawaqar1978 Жыл бұрын
This programme is a good example of fine journalism.
@urdulectureforyou
@urdulectureforyou Жыл бұрын
I know him,he is very great and gentle man person.
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for true comment
@bitytooba4046
@bitytooba4046 Жыл бұрын
This program is breeze of fresh air... please never to stop this show. Stay blessed.
@raqibawan3219
@raqibawan3219 Жыл бұрын
Lt General javed Iqbal is innocent INSHAALAH he will get justice
@malikmuhammadjawadfarooq8988
@malikmuhammadjawadfarooq8988 Жыл бұрын
👍
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
Amin
@salmansallu9142
@salmansallu9142 Жыл бұрын
بڑی ہمت ہے أپ لوگوں، کی ڈر نہیں لگتا آپ لوگوں کو
@kingschessclub6185
@kingschessclub6185 Жыл бұрын
آپ کا پروگرام اچھے پروگرام میں شامل ہے امید ہے آپ ایسے ہی اہم معاملات سامنے لاتے رہیں گے
@khalidsardar1098
@khalidsardar1098 Жыл бұрын
اعزاز سید ایسی کہانیوں پر ایک کتاب لکھیں وہ جو تاریک راھوں میں مارے گٸے💔
@salmanshamoon2819
@salmanshamoon2819 Жыл бұрын
Loved today’s show
@muhammadrehman6395
@muhammadrehman6395 Жыл бұрын
Is this programme even possible? Great effort.
@ZafarBhattiOfficial
@ZafarBhattiOfficial Жыл бұрын
Aoa, may Allah bless you both a lot, remain safe, happy and healthy, May Allah bless Pakistan and make the country safe and prosperous, May Allah make the concern quarters to work for the supremacy of constitution and rule of law.
@dr.muhammadahmadbaigh5535
@dr.muhammadahmadbaigh5535 Жыл бұрын
Salamat raheen.
@saimbilal6770
@saimbilal6770 Жыл бұрын
اتنی اہم پوسٹوں پر رہا کر کوئی کیسے اپنے ملک سے غداری کر سکتا یہ جھوٹ ہے
@tanveerfatima4178
@tanveerfatima4178 Жыл бұрын
Keep up with your excellent work
@mirzahanif1566
@mirzahanif1566 Жыл бұрын
اللہ تعالیٰ انصاف کرے آمین
@nazizahmad
@nazizahmad Жыл бұрын
I think Colonel Innam is lucky that he is alive. Thank God.
@ikramullah5443
@ikramullah5443 Жыл бұрын
Good programme by cheena and Syed SB. Appriciated
@shahidmuhammmad2838
@shahidmuhammmad2838 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and important vlog about Military finds and facts
@akhlaqahmed3357
@akhlaqahmed3357 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video much appreciated plz continue ur efforts love and best wishes from Canada
@zulfioak2540
@zulfioak2540 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis !
@syedmuslim7460
@syedmuslim7460 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vlog umar cheema and azaz syed good information 👍 keep it up take care
@bolbandey
@bolbandey Жыл бұрын
اعزار سید صاحب، مجھے آپ کا انداز صحافت بہت اچھا لگتا ہے۔ میں ایک چھوٹا سا لکھاری ہوں اور خود مجھ میں بھی کچھ ایسا ہے سچ بولنے اور سچ پوچھنے کا جذبہ ہے۔ لیکن سچ لکھ نہیں سکتا کیونکہ " مسنگ پرسن" بننے سے ڈر لگتا ہے۔ اللہ آپ کی حفاظت فرمائیں۔
@zafarmasood8183
@zafarmasood8183 Жыл бұрын
If Gen Sahib shared details of strategic assets & serious plans then he might be convicted. As long as we don't know the details one can't comment.
@moor3766
@moor3766 Жыл бұрын
Excellent program
@sajjadnasir2155
@sajjadnasir2155 Жыл бұрын
Good program.
@MsIdiot000
@MsIdiot000 Жыл бұрын
WHAT KIND OF ARMY WE HAVE??????? EVEN THEIR OWN GENERALS ARE NOT SAFE............ ONLY CORRUPT ONES KI MAUJAN HI MAUJAN........
@ayshanoor4711
@ayshanoor4711 Жыл бұрын
very good intellectual Video and Comments. Wish you good luck success
@ghulamfarooq7082
@ghulamfarooq7082 Жыл бұрын
Nice Programme
@farazbutt6584
@farazbutt6584 Жыл бұрын
Jis dharti pe zulm ho ga afatein nazil hoon gee...😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥
@junaidakhtarabbasijunaidak7205
@junaidakhtarabbasijunaidak7205 Жыл бұрын
قاضی فائز صاحب کا انتظار کریں طاقت کے آگے جھوکنے والے انصاف نہیں کرسکتے
@TahirDutch
@TahirDutch Жыл бұрын
This man is a general but very innocent. He should have known that americans in pakistani version of story. At least a general should have known that.
@ferozshah6305
@ferozshah6305 Жыл бұрын
sad story the militry.jistice be revied as per pri j set a story the military justice reviewed as per principal the natural just justice justice human life human life must be respected thank you thank you talk show good program
@Saagar-xb9jh
@Saagar-xb9jh Жыл бұрын
حیرت کی بات ہے جب بھی پاکستان میں کوئی بڑا گرفتار ہو جاتا ہے چاہیے وہ بڑا امیر ہو یا سیاستدان یا جرنیل وہ ہمیشہ بے گناہ ہوتا ہے ۔ اور غریب بے گناہ ہوکر بھی ہمیشہ گنہگار ہوتا ہے ۔
@pervezkhan8703
@pervezkhan8703 Жыл бұрын
آپ کی سادگی یا سادہ ظاہر ہونےپر قربان۔ کیا پاکستان میں کسی بڑے آدمی کو ویسے ہی سزا ہو سکتی ہے؟ ناممکن
@saleemahmed2999
@saleemahmed2999 Жыл бұрын
General Jawaid is an upright man and true patriot... There is some other reason like regime change in back ground of this case. Those who has served with this General will definetly confirm my comments.
@exposurebyanjum
@exposurebyanjum Жыл бұрын
Sacred cows make the best hamburgers. God speed the justice process. Aameen.
@gulmohd5907
@gulmohd5907 7 ай бұрын
Nice discussion.
@ranashahid3850
@ranashahid3850 Жыл бұрын
جب سب کو چھوڑ دیا ہے تو اس بچارے کو بھی چھوڑ دینا چاہیے ۔
@burhanrehman9244
@burhanrehman9244 Жыл бұрын
Your listeners are also very talented.
@ShahidComerade
@ShahidComerade Жыл бұрын
Nation of Pakistan always thankful both of You ( Journalists Azaz Syed, Ummer Cheema Sb ) . Sure this kind of Discussion shows Ills of Army Courts and Pak Civil Courts when one One person carrying many Hats . This Talk will help / Encourage Our Future Students o Journalism and Professors . S Comrade Secretary General Pakistan USA FReedom Forum
@HeyGuysHave121
@HeyGuysHave121 Жыл бұрын
Bohot detail mai, our informative discussion hota hai ein ka. Kafi mehnat se research kartey hai.👍
@muhammadmalik8270
@muhammadmalik8270 Жыл бұрын
Great talk
@hakeemayyubquershi6236
@hakeemayyubquershi6236 Жыл бұрын
∆امتحان لے رہی ہیں انسانی تنگ دستیاں، فتنہ بازیوں کے دور میں، ایمان کو قائم رکھ! ہر کرسی_تبلیغ خاموش، یاں ہے وہ مصالحت کوش، بے حس لیڈروں کا شور ہے، ایمان کو قائم رکھ!۔∆ "ایوب"
@ahsangondal8532
@ahsangondal8532 Жыл бұрын
Badnaseeb are those living in this lawless land , very unfortunate we are going no where since last 70 years
@abdulrashid6017
@abdulrashid6017 Жыл бұрын
Umar Cheema and Umar Adam is talented. But very sad for general Javeed Iqbal.
@panhwariqbalhussain9076
@panhwariqbalhussain9076 Жыл бұрын
In justice in Pakistan
@ilovesamosa
@ilovesamosa Жыл бұрын
Our system follows French system and not UK system. Once I read about it that the Brits intentionally installed French clone system in subcontinent because of huge population and less management resources. French system is slow and lazy and takes a long time in processing while British system is rapid processing.
@noshadghumman3306
@noshadghumman3306 Жыл бұрын
very informative vlog bravo 👏
@mufer9
@mufer9 Жыл бұрын
Aizaz Syed and Umar Cheema ... you both are excellent journalists of integrity . I have no doubt you are aware of the fact that military intelligence in a nuclear power state like Pakistan is of very high standard . There must be some very sensitive information related to this case or a three star general would not end a fate like this. It was an embarrassment for the county and of course institution . I don't think the real truth will ever be revealed. May I suggest please do not under estimate your intelligence service and refrain from making any judgement .... it is not as simple as it looks ..... ! Thank you
@azharghumro
@azharghumro Жыл бұрын
In case of a jail sentence, a day and a night are separately counted as days. So, Azaz is right in saying that his 5 years sentence have been completed.
@nazizahmad
@nazizahmad Жыл бұрын
Good for the poor General Sahib.
@muhammadsiddique6789
@muhammadsiddique6789 Жыл бұрын
As usual very Nice dialogue. Stay strong and blessed Sir. Keep it up. 👍🪴🌹💐☘️🌱🍁🍂🌼🌿🌷🌺
@boatclublahoremarina3066
@boatclublahoremarina3066 Жыл бұрын
Gen Javed Iqbal sahib ko chahiye k vo Allah Pak se dua Karen
@SayVeritatis
@SayVeritatis Жыл бұрын
Naek niyati say gjalat kaam ho jata hay. 100% true.
@momindurraniofficial
@momindurraniofficial Жыл бұрын
Umar bhai this Gen. Javed Iqbal is suffering from Sade Satti this is an astrological disaese for 7.5 years he will be released soon IA and this time period will make him more strong.
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
Amin
@raqibawan3219
@raqibawan3219 Жыл бұрын
inshaAllah
@54tomsmith
@54tomsmith Жыл бұрын
Just on tweeter news that Imran met on motorway with one General n justice Athar Menallah ,CJ of Islamabad High court.
@badarzaman5561
@badarzaman5561 Жыл бұрын
Azaz I love you.
@ali.z.a5139
@ali.z.a5139 Жыл бұрын
He was accused of sharing top secret information. But that thing can't be shared in public. He himself accepted those things.He was lucky enough that he is alive
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
Accused with no proves, jaahil
@ali.z.a5139
@ali.z.a5139 Жыл бұрын
@@farhanamalik2328 Thanks for saying Jaahil and showing your good grooming
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
@@ali.z.a5139 jo tohmat lagaye ga without evidence usko jaahil kehna kum he
@ali.z.a5139
@ali.z.a5139 Жыл бұрын
Ma'am i m somebody who is dealing with Military Courts for my friend who was army officer and has been accused by military and sentenced for 7 year imprisonment. We are following that case in High Court, i exactly knows the flaws in military judicial system but as far case of this general in concerned it much different. Pakistan is country dominated by Military, Politicians and Beaurocracy and its not very easy for any Department to accuse and imprison by any of such Holy Cow. If person of Rank General has been imprisoned there is something very very serious which military does want to public to save thier respect from public backlash. He was General not some Sepoy or Subedar or Capt or Major. There around 200+ Sepoy to Majors who are fighting thier cases in Courts but Courts are not listening to them and both these anchors will not discuss them and i know the reason but can't share here. If somebody wants i can share at someother forum
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
He is also in Hc so no remarks accepted till the court makes decision.
@rashidwaheed6985
@rashidwaheed6985 Жыл бұрын
Bahi our milt.. cort done wel
@faisalhassan4435
@faisalhassan4435 Жыл бұрын
zaberdast. .bhai.. aazzazz bhai
@nazizahmad
@nazizahmad Жыл бұрын
According to Azaz Syed if General Bajwa knows about the story which Genral Javed Iqbal shared with him then General Bajwa should have come to his defence. It's not that one General is saving the other but it's a real and just view. We don't know what pressurised General Bajwa to not come to his defence. It isn't the General Bajwa will do him a favour but the reality is reality which should be known to people.
@farhanamalik2328
@farhanamalik2328 Жыл бұрын
Because as big he is in size he’s big a coward and when cowards r on chair they cross lines don’t come forward. We challenge him
@dr.muhammadahmadbaigh5535
@dr.muhammadahmadbaigh5535 Жыл бұрын
Pakistan 🇵🇰 Muslim League-N Zindabad. ☪️
@aliasgharsherazi3870
@aliasgharsherazi3870 Жыл бұрын
If culprits like Ayiub khan yahyah khan ziaul haque and Musharraf were not punished why this general is in prison ?
@sajjadnasir2155
@sajjadnasir2155 Жыл бұрын
Your program about dawn leak is exceptional. But it's so sorry that justice leaks too late. Why didn't you tell it earlier.
@pakworldinfo961
@pakworldinfo961 Жыл бұрын
Jasoos tha , in. Per pabandi honi chahiye all general py bahir Jany py .very good analysis
@sagheeruddin1000
@sagheeruddin1000 Жыл бұрын
There is no juistus in Baghlol and company,,😎😎😎😎😎
@waqasahmedmalik1061
@waqasahmedmalik1061 Жыл бұрын
This is very unfortunate. As I know him he and his family are without any doubt very responsible and patriotic.
@tayyabasaleem4444
@tayyabasaleem4444 Жыл бұрын
Assalam o Alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu hu.What had gone around is coming slowly and steadily back.Alhamdulillah.Fe amanillah aameen
@faisalhassan4435
@faisalhassan4435 Жыл бұрын
nice.bhai....bhot achy
@Only-Muslim100
@Only-Muslim100 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Sir 💝
@sumbalnasir3962
@sumbalnasir3962 Жыл бұрын
i m fully agree with umar cheema
@sajjadhussainkhan8650
@sajjadhussainkhan8650 Жыл бұрын
great informative videlo
@ghulamahmad8954
@ghulamahmad8954 Жыл бұрын
اللّٰہ پاک جنرل صاحب کی پریشانی دور فرمائے آمین ۔ کھبی کھبی زندگی میں ایسے واقعات آجاتے ہیں جہاں قید و بند کی صعوبتیں جھیلنے پڑے۔ حضرت یوسف علیہ السلام کو قید بھگتنی پڑی۔ بعد میں بیگناہ ثابت ہوئے اور مصر کے حکمران بنائے گئے۔ اللّٰہ پاک جنرل صاحب کے اور ہم سب کے دانستہ اور نادانستہ غلطیاں معاف فرمائے۔ امین۔
@shoaibhameed2587
@shoaibhameed2587 Жыл бұрын
Gen Umer bhi boht bara talent tha OR Uss ka beta Asad Yuthia bhi bara talented hy
@mrafiqshaikh98
@mrafiqshaikh98 Жыл бұрын
ایسے بے رحم افراد کو چاہے ان کا تعلق فوج ، عدلیہ، سیاست یا بیوروکریسی سے ہو عبرت کا نشان بنانا کس کا کام ہے ؟
@bigbang7778
@bigbang7778 Жыл бұрын
Put his case in front of justice javed iqbal because both have same name and one is expert in video games and other is famous for his videos.
@adeensyed
@adeensyed Жыл бұрын
Hahaha good one
@moor3766
@moor3766 Жыл бұрын
Azaz sb umar sb Good
@Barlas511
@Barlas511 Жыл бұрын
Our Adjutant in PMA.
@1961arif
@1961arif Жыл бұрын
This is Dr Arif Malik Thanks for sharing this information about a retired general and a hanged sepoy of "PAK PAK PAK ARMY" justice system. I remember other incidences like RAWAPINDI case "Faiz Ahmad Faiz" fame, Let's hope it will be"PAAAKISTAN" one day.
@faisalhassan4435
@faisalhassan4435 Жыл бұрын
goood doir
@ahteshamulhaqshami
@ahteshamulhaqshami Жыл бұрын
بہت اچھا انداز گفتگو
@meharellahi5557
@meharellahi5557 Жыл бұрын
Tril end and appeal is pending۔wait and see because approval of higher not available in this time۔
@shokatali7535
@shokatali7535 Жыл бұрын
Brave journalists
@abdulfqi1504
@abdulfqi1504 Жыл бұрын
Poor guys trapped. Col trapped in Nepal. Many get trapped like this. After retirement they shouldn't go abroad. Please also speak for lower ranks trapped like this.
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